Article: Texans' toughness questioned

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  1. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    So, apparently the book on the Texans around the league is we are soft....no real news to some of us unfortunately.

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Texans-toughness-questioned.html

    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post?id=3278
     
  2. Second Honeymoon

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    of course he did, Vinny. We are soft. We play to our coaches personality. Carebear attitude and a bunch of lame coachspeak. Ryan doesn't buy into this BS gentleman's sport chivalry attitude that Kubiak is so fond of. Ryan calls a spade a spade and needless to say if Ryan's team played like Gary's did, Ryan would have lit them up like a christmas tree. Instead, Gary goes to his team and says it was 'on me'. Gary, you really suck.

    Kubiak is part of that lame 50's era football mentality that never wins squat but they play 'the right way'. give me a break. Football is a violent sport that requires toughness and attitude not chivalry and being 'the good guy'. This isn't UIL football Gary. This is the NFL. You have proven you can do well when you have Steve Young or John Elway but with anyone else you are pants.

    Kubiak has done a decent job with the offense since YKW's departure, but he was hired to be a head coach, and the guy just sucks as a HC.

    Gary better get this turned around real fast or this season is gonna go into the crapper and Gary's head coaching future with it.
     
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    Hardcore Texan Magnet Man

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    Hard to argue any of that, we got man-handled and I don't see it getting better anytime soon.

    I am sure we can muster some meaningless W's in Decemeber and just finish 500 again though, yay.
     
  4. gtexan02

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    What are you even talking about? Where does Gary ever say they play with chivalry and the "right way"

    Just this past weekend people were all upset because one of the defensive players said they were looking to play aggressive and "get flags"

    Its one thing to go off the deep end after 1 loss (it happens every week here), but to just make up random stuff? This is exhausting
     
  5. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    Er, the Texans have had that label for three seasons now.
     
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    Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor

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    Soft would be an upgrade. We're more like invisible.
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    I think Richard Simmons called the Texans soft yesterday . The ZBS used to be deemed dirty , which made you a feared team . I've read where they changed rules so it's not nearly as feared .

    You just can't beat my guys will bust your guys in the chops , drive it down your throat , and make you like it .
     
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    If you don't see it, you dont see it. Gary's style of coaching is very carebear and niiiiiiice. He doesn't show emotion and rarely criticizes anyone with anything other than coachspeak or the good ole 'you know, we just didn't get the job done' BS. he is a flatliner and his team takes on a coaches personality. Bring us a guy in here who will rip someone a new ahole and tell it like it is....maybe then we will get some accountability and some passion in this squad. I don't need a bunch of choirboys...I want a bunch of winners.

    I dont care about flags and getting penalties. penalties are bad. pushing the envelope and being aggressive and punishing on the football field is how you win games. the Texans come out flat just like Kubiak coaches.
     


  9. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Here is another piece along the same lines from the New York Times. Can anyone see Kubiak make this kind of a speech where his players want to run through a wall for him?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/14/sports/football/14jets.html?_r=1&ref=football
     
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    Capers at least had the team play hard..at least until the DC experiment was a blatant failure and the locker room was lost.

    Kubiak's friends at DC have done nothing but field soft and uninspired teams year after year.
     
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    Is this like Stay Puff marshmallow soft or Charmin toilet paper soft? Either way, you get roasted or someone wipes their butt with you. Soft is the last label you want attached to your football team. Maybe we can get Mr. Whipple out of retirement to coach this team.
     
  12. gtexan02

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    All of that is worthless garbage in my opinion. You can yell and cuss and pep talk your team all you want, but in the end, the actual coaching is what wins games. We tried the yeller and the cusser and it didn't work. We tried the intelectual coach and it didn't work.

    You can either coach or you can't. Yelling at the team and giving them pep talks is just a bunch of fluff. Of course the winning team is going to say they were super pumped before the game. im sure our guys were as well. They just got outplayed and outcoached. I doubt the yelling had anything to do with it
     
  13. Vinny

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    http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1248904&postcount=9
     
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    But Richard Smith was a fiery guy who yelled a lot? He criticized the players. Especially Jethro Franklin. Why didn't that work?
     
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    exactly, Vinny. Ryan is a leader and can inspire teams. He proved it his first Sunday as HC. Gary just doesn't have that in his DNA. He hasn't showed it in going on 4 years.

    How many times do we have to be behind 17-0 or start the season with a whimper before people get it?

    Based on the change in this forum's tone, it takes 3 years and one game of witnessing it. I am proud of this forum for not sugarcoating this loss. There are a few trying to do it, but it looks like people are finally seeing Gary for what he is. A woefully unqualified, unprepared, and incapable head coach.

    glad I am not alone in this sentiment.
     
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    just yelling isn't going to get the job done. no one is saying that. you gotta have inspirational ability and have true leadership AND the ability to X and O. Gary has some of the latter traits but very little of the former.
     
  17. HOU-TEX

    HOU-TEX Ah, Football!

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    First off, I definitely think we're a soft finesse team. But I think it has more to do with being consistant, which this team has yet to create since their inception. For instance, we fought the titans last season with toughness and grit, yet turned around and laid an egg the following week.
     
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    I love my team but they're all a bunch of pansies. I think Bill Kollar has more intensity than any other member of the entire Houston Texans organization. Let's suit him up!
     
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    We are the NFL version of the Tin man from Wizard of Oz :-(
     
  20. Marcus

    Marcus Ruthless pragmatist

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    Just to say that they are "soft" is masking what the real problem is.

    If you lose the battle on the line, is that what "soft" means? Take Chris Meyers vs. Brian Jenkins for example. Was Myers "soft"?

    Or was it that he got physically beaten by player much bigger and stronger than him?

    Or take the line play in general. Where do you draw the line between attitude and physical ability?
     
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