Any team, any time, any where!!!!

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by thunderkyss, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    There was a time not too long ago that the majority of us here on this board thought these Texans (minus Demeco, plus Kareem) could beat any team, any time, any where.

    What's changed? There was a faction here who already thought the man was an itiot. I don't think he's gotten any dumbor....

    I know we are giving up 400 yards a game & 24 points. I know that's not conducive to winning.

    However, I don't think we've played our best football yet. I don't know what they are waiting on, but I know they are running out of time.

    Overall, the San Diego game was a fail. I know that. But there are a few things we can look at, that can (I think should) give us hope going forward.

    The #1 offense in the league had 9 possessions against us. 5 of the 9 ended with no points. 2 of them were turnovers (a fumble we forced & an INT we forced... Quinn forced another fumble, but they recovered it). The other 4 possessions, we allowed TDs. We've got to work on that, no question about it.

    On the flip-side, we took the leagues #1 defense & scored on them 5 out of 10 possessions. Two touchdowns, three field goals.... (we turned it over 3 times, twice on downs, 1 INT). Need to work on turning those FGs to TDs....

    That #1 defense is also now the #2 defense (The New York Giants are #1, a team we had trouble getting first downs against earlier in the season).

    We took the team with the #1 offense & the #1 defense (playing our offense actually dropped their ranking) into the 4th Qtr with a lead (albeit only 2 points).

    Most importantly, think about this. We are the #1 Red Zone offense. Wasn't that our biggest complaint last year, we moved the ball like nobody's business between the 20s, but sputter in the Red Zone.

    What if we had to trade off some of that offense, to get that Red Zone performance, & have spent the last 9 weeks trying to get back our ability to move the ball, without sacrificing our Red Zone performance?

    It's just an idea.

    What if we can get last year's performance between the 20s with this years performance in the Red Zone.... & as an added bonus, we get last years defense as well.

    To me, that's what it looks like we're seeing. If that is the case... who can't we beat?

    Why can't we run the table?
     
  2. wagonhed

    wagonhed Team Gruden

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    Honestly every post I read from you is just making up a new way to pretend like the Texans are really good. I don't get it. Why doctor the numbers to make things seem other than they are?

    We suck. That's all there is to it.
     
  3. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    Not everything TK is saying is untrue. The Texans have enough talent on this team to be 6-2 instead of 4-4 at this point. The problem is game management by a bunch of coaches that can't seem to utilize players correctly.

    If that were to sudden change, so would the fortune of the Texans. I don't see it happening as long as Kubiak is in charge though. I guess if he was kidnapped by alien UFOs and had a brain transplant or something he might be better.
     
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    Isn't that Kool-Aid a controlled substance? I don't see where this
    pro-Kubiak myopia is coming from.

    7-1 gets them into post season, 6-2 sends them home.

    AINT' GONE HAPPEN.

    I'd be surprised if there are 3 more wins on this schedule. There
    are no Rams, Seahawks, and Bills to hide behind this season.

    Dallas exposed the Texans, and EVERY team since has exploited the
    sieve named Kareem Jackson, and Kubiak out-cutes himself all season
    long.
     
  7. HJam72

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    I agree, but many of us thought the same kind of thing when we had a different bunch of coaches and players. Turned out they almost ALL sucked, LOL.
     
  8. CretorFrigg

    CretorFrigg Fire Rick Smith

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    Yeah, I saw that.
     
  10. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    1.) I don't know anyone who thought that. The best I can say is that I had finally reached a point where I thought the Texans had a chance against any team - that the only team they couldn't beat was the Texans. Now, they don't have much of a chance of winning unless they score 30 points or more. And they can still do that from time to time, but it's not something that we should expect from week to week.

    2.) I never thought he was dumb, but he makes decisions that are clearly outside of any realm the majority would call normal. If you win, you can do that kind of stuff. He doesn't, and hasn't.

    3.) I don't know what else you need to see, but they have played their best football. In fact, the offense has put behind it two of its biggest problems from last year - turnovers and red zone scoring. But you simply cannot win consistently when you routinely give up as many yards and scores as the Texans give up. You think they have better football to play? I think you're high, and you ought to be sharing, Mr. Selfishness. This team is and has been playing their best football. This is what you get.

    I completely reject that notion. All we keep hearing about is "this team has talent" blah blah blah. If this team had Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, and Jim Brown, but no offensive line, they'd get killed. Football is not a game where the "talent" here and there can overcome an entire unit's deficiency. This team has ZERO pressure from the DTs and ZERO coverage skill in the secondary. I don't care who else you stick out there with that garbage, their "talent" is not going to overcome a complete failure by an entire unit, much less two (secondary and half a DL).

    This team is 4-4. I see no argument that they "should" have won any of the games they lost, and frankly, I can understand arguments that they "should" have lost to WAS and KC. They are what their record is.

    And consistency? 8-8, 8-8, 9-7, and 4-4. That's pretty damn consistent, to paraphrase CP.
     
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    eriadoc Texan-American

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    Yeah, but it's Harvard, so no one care(s/d). Go practice medicine or law or something. :D

    (just poking fun)
     
  12. Rey

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    I never felt like we could beat any team, any time, anywhere....

    I always felt like we had a chance to beat any team in the leauge...But I wouldn't say I felt confident heading into every game...

    But even if people had felt that way in the past that really has 0 to do with the present or the future...

    Just because you feel one way about a team 3 months ago, doesn't mean you have to keep those feelings...

    The team has shown/is showing their true colors....

    I do think they have the talent to win, but I honestly think the coaching is sub par...It's a mindset with these guys. They are not consistently focused and they are not consistently put in the best situations to make plays...JMO...
     
  13. Texecutioner

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    You stood alone in that delusion.
     
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    I think they, particularly Kubiak, may actually be over-prepared in some ways. He acts like every decision has been made long before the game started, so why bother noticing whether we need a half yard or a whole yard. Well, because we can't get a whole yard on 4th down with a QB sneak against the Chargers, Gary!!! Wake up, pay attention, and stop trying to remember what you decided to do before you knew what the situation would even be!

    Over-analysis. Stupid-on-the-fly. It's not chess. It's football...
     
  15. Goatcheese

    Goatcheese Nightmare Over

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    Well you tried TK, but soapers just can't help shitting in every thread on the forum.

    Props to Eriadoc for atleast making a rational argument.

    At this point I want Kubiak fired so the soapers will just STHU and let people actually discuss football without them dreaming up new reasons to dog the team so they can pile on some more hate.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    If they ain't doggin on Kubiak, they will find something else to deride the team about. Some people just ain't happy unless they bitchin'...
     
  17. Jottoz

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    Great Post! QFT
     
  18. hradhak

    hradhak Site Contributor

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    Well I guess the question really has become, why did our defense regress so much this year? Last year it was at least average. Our offense has fixed its deficiencies and probably could have stayed in some games had our defense showed up.

    I hope that if we can't get it together this year on defense, at least the secondary gets enough reps to at least get out of the dumpster. But again, I don't know that it's all on the secondary.
     
  19. thunderkyss

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    I'm beginning to feel that way.



    Thought I had a posse....
     
  20. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    You gotta admit Kubiak isn't making it difficult for them to find new reasons.
     

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