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Antonio Brown Suspended

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  1. Texecutioner

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    How about this?

    I don't believe any woman that she was raped if she waited years to come out about it. Way to many wolf criers that came out and made those accusations obsolete.

    I'd bet anything in my pocket that you were one of the ones that thought Kavanaugh should have been put through the hell that he was based on what was awn obvious lie.

    When I start seeing guys like you who are just as outraged towards the women who make false claims as you seem to be for the women that wait years and months to come out for some big pay day then I'll take you seriously. Until then you just sound like every other bias sports fan.
     
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    This is 100% accurate. I wanted that too. The NFL had every right to suspend him when he got racist on his own GM in front of the team, and what did they do? They didn't do squat. Imagine if Derek Carr called a black HC the N word? He wouldn't be playing another game this season most likely or ever possibly.

    If the league didn't find any of his behavior suspendible on the Steelers or the Raiders this past off season, then I fail to see how an accusation for a pay day would matter now unless its just because he plays for the Patriots now. (I know you didn't say that, but I was just saying in general. I agree with your initial thoughts on him.
     
  3. Texecutioner

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    WTF does the Sharper case have to do with anything? It has zero relevance, and he was punished like he should have been. They knew for a fact that he did the things he did.

    Tyreek Hill was not punished at all, and there was zero outrage from you.

    Brown acting like a total jackass to two teams doesn't make him a rapist anymore than it made tons of others guilty. What we do know is that women target the **** out of these guys knowing they'll quickly settle most of the time just to make these things go away. You're wanting people punished based on the teams they play for clearly because you aren't attaching the same standards across the board to all players.
     
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    Tolerance of AB reminds me of the hot/crazy matrix for women. They will tolerate (and often forgive) players because of elite talent, much in the same way men will put up with a lot of crap from a hot woman.

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  5. Mr teX

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    You’re so transparent it’s laughable. The only reason you’re in here talking about “accusations” and standards & defending this known turd is b/c this dude is now a Patriot. That's it.

    All anyone is saying is it wouldn’t surprise at all if these accusations turned out to have some legs given this dudes behavior over the last 2-3 years.

    And the Daren Sharper case is VERY relevant b/c they too originated from allegations from several of his victims 1st. & it was only with the corroboration of the POS that helped him do it & a mountain of largely circumstantial evidence and an emerging pattern that his ass was eventually arrested & convicted. Regardless, up until the story actually broke, no one had any reason at all to suspect he was doing anything remotely close to what he was eventually convicted of. Dude had a sterling rep, was revered in NO & was getting 6 figures checks cut to him from the NFL network to boot. Don't remember you in here banging your drum for him then.
     
  6. Texecutioner

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    I've banged my drum for a lot of players that were unfairly punished Ray Rice being one of the main ones. I also did the same for Adrian Peterson, Ben, Brady and several others who had the NFL impose an unfair punishment based on an accusation alone or some other bizarre form of the NFL's version of "associated guilt."

    I'm not saying that its impossible that he could have ever sexually assaulted someone or even raped someone before. He could next week for all I know. I'm damn sure not going to believe some woman about a story that happened around two years ago where she didn't even go to the police and instead went back to him. I'm certainly not going to believe a woman that is filing for a pay off instead of doing everything possible to put her rapist behind bars. And the NFL just let Hill off under similar circumstances with an accusation and a phone call, but he got off just fine. Why would Brown get punished one month later without a long thorough investigation by the police?
     
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    I think its well documented in the literature that rape victims don't always act rationally so you can't rely on that line of thought. Its also important to note that the suit she filed is civil, not criminal so she's not trying to send him to jail. Looks as if she's trying to recoup something. She's about to get married really soon & her "going back to him" was probably her attempt to try to handle this out of the public eye due to embarrassment or whatever...her mistake was in thinking she's dealing with an adult/man when she wasn't. But he's such an a-hole that he couldn't even do that. Regardless, his texts/emails or whatever this dude sent to her speaks to something untoward he did to her & imo shows that this isn't a case of her trying to get a payoff. Just like its common for these guys to get targeted due to their status, its also common that these guys take advantage of girls/women for the same reason.
     
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    I didn't say anything either way dude, you're the one who's made up his mind about the situation and can't control yourself. You're trying to take this to NSZ places, and I'm not falling for that bait.

    You don't know these people, you don't know what happened, just let it play out and wait for some solid evidence before spouting off on the subject. Everyone is guaranteed Due Process in this country, both the plaintiff and the defendant, and each of them will get their chance to tell their story for the authorities to sort out. Just let it go and follow the story, unless of course you hate the Constitution and the 14th amendment.
     
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    I don't know anything about what's currently going on with Antonio Brown and his purported "rape spree". All I know is that this guy has been a super talented dumpster fire for a long, long time (like "Cats" on broadway it feels like) and when I heard these allegations my first thought was...

    "That's a mighty convenient way for the NFL to throw one of its biggest "problem children" down a very dark hole for a year or so and take a toy away from the Patriots without so much as a hearing".

    He'll hit that commissioners list thing they have and have to apply for reinstatement next year or something like that. In the months between he'll do some more look at me crazy stuff and maybe wreck a car. The usual bit. Makes you long for the good old days with Terrell Owens just shaking pom-poms and whipping out a Sharpie to autograph a football. The turds making millions playing this game are one of the many reasons I stopped watching it. Note: I don't have any idea whether he did this or not. He was a turd long before these allegations came up. The way he's behaved on two different teams is enough for me to say "Enjoy dealing with Goodell. You've earned it"
     
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  11. Texecutioner

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    No, she didn't want due process. She didn't go to the cops to try and prosecute him to stop him from raping other women allegedly. She went for a cash grab. If this was after being unsuccessful getting due process done in the judicial system to prosecute him like a rapist should be then your stance would make more sense.

    And also there is not a fair due process in the NFL, and YOU KNOW THAT. The NFL has no consistency on how they judge cases like this. They just randomly decide things on the fly. They just did nothing with Tyreek Hill. They also unfairly punished Zeke. They also unfairly suspended Rice after he had already been punished for the incident and re-punished him again. There isn't a "due process" with the NFL from a consistency standpoint, and their CBA allows them to punish anything they want however they see fit.
     
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    In fairness, she could be going with the system more likely to get a conviction (civil), as the standard goes down considerably.

    As a juror, you're going to have much more hesitation in convicting someone of a felony that carries a prison sentence...than essentially 'fining' a millionaire player a few thousand. I don't say it's right, but it's how the average person operates.
     
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    Both of them lack credibility.

    I know the NFL wanted to avoid this type of situation while celebrating 100 years. But, honestly, this is a perfect metaphor for the entertainment industry that is the modern NFL in many ways.

    Sad truth is a decline of social standards and a sliding-scale tolerance of individuals based on talent level, as long as it does not "tarnish" the perceived marketing of the NFL brand. . .errrr, "shield".
     
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    That's the way that people want to frame it to make it seem like she has to do it this way. Someone who was really raped is going to want that guy to be disciplined by the law. If cash is all they care about, then they sure aren't that concerned about other future victims. I just see a mentality of wanting a cash grab from an easy target. Just because these guys are rich and famous doesn't mean that they should be allowed to be victims of fraud and misuse of power from the NFL just because we don't like them.

    This becomes a bad slippery slope when accusations alone create discipline and/or career changes. You can go back no matter how long you want, but I've always held this stance. Imagine if they suspended Brown right now, and he came out and sued Big Ben for sexual assault from an incident on the Steelers and said it was to much for him to bear in order to come out and turn him in. Would the league suspend Ben? If not, that'd be pretty messed up based on the actions they've taken with other guys if they discipline Antonio. The NFL needs to stop playing police when it wants to.
     
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    I've been on 2 criminal juries and 1 civil jury. When the judge gave us instructions in the civil case she stressed that guilt was not based upon "beyond a shadow of a doubt" but about "the preponderance of evidence". She implied that someone that would not be convicted of a crime could lose a civil suit.
     
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    Can we update the title of this thread?

    I thought at first something new happened and he got suspended after one game with New England.

    Something I wouldn’t be upset at. Not at all.
     
  17. Mollywhopper

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    His accuser is set to meet with the league soon. AB's status moving forward will be clearer then.

    And so will an appropriate thread title.
     
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