Another update on Plummer coming to Houston

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  1. the wonger need food

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    It's definitely looking that way. It will be nice to have Plummer and Carr duke it out with the winner getting the job...Kubiak isn't playing any favoritism games with Carr or else he would have already endorsed him as the lone starter.
     
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    I don't know if it'll end up that way. I don't know that we'll carry 3 quarterbacks. Someone's got to go.
     
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    well why not cut carr and that big salary? that seems logical to me.
     
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    According to that article, we may end up having to give them Sage....
     
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    I really wish we would...Or at least find someone else that can take the backup QBs special teams role. Watching our second option at QB get hurt while option #1 stinks it up more than a New Jersey sewer rat's fecal matter is not something I want to see next season (is that the smelliest combination possible? In any case, I tried. I still don't know if it appropriately conveys the smellitude).

    I also don't want another #3 QB situation like a couple years ago. And if it comes to getting rid of someone...Carr is a fine person but he's had his chances. Not only has he not improved (other than the very beginning) he has extremely terrible games with his "improvement" games barely reaching mediocre. Let Sage and Jake battle it out at that point, preferably with a rookie that can take over at some point in the next couple years. That would actually be a better scenario IMO than Carr - Plummer - Sage.
     
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    I hope not. Sage is a decent backup QB.

    Based on that article, Plummer is too expensive, IMO. We might as well draft a kid to develop in the long run and take our chances with Super Dave. I don't see Plummer as a major upgrade over what we've already got, to be honest. And financially, we'd owe a lot of money to the QB position and we could really use those funds at other spots on this team.
     


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    I agree about his money. Maybe we could give him a decent deal with incentives if he starts a certain number of games. Would playing under Kubiak again with a legit shot at the starting job be enough incentive to take a reduced contract this season?
     
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    And what frustrates me is Sage hasn't even been givin a chance yet...I mean a real chance.
     
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    Sage will not get a shot in Denver that's for sure . He's much better off here I guess .
     
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    Exactly...
     
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    Uh... that article failed to mention the Raiders.

    Raiders are in the market for just about everything... and depending on how Jake "really" feels about Denver, I would say Oakland is just as much in the market for him as Miami, Houston, and Cleveland.

    Not so sure how he would feel about getting plays from Coach Doogie Kiffin, A.A., though.
     
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    To be clear, the bolded part is speculation by the author of the article, substantiated by nothing at all. Not that we don't believe it, but don't get your hopes all up that this is a quote out of Texans camp or something.
     
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    What do you mean, he had his chance playing special teams... :stirpot:
     
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    What's hilarious to me is that you guys are grasping at every possible straw--no matter how insignificant--you can find to endorse Carr being out of here, and yet how quickly you seem to forget the way in which every single media voice in the country last year reported definitively on our drafting Reggie Bush for months as if it was a done deal, until virtually hours before the draft.

    Is it possible we pick up Jake, given that he's probably only a small improvement over Carr, yet is older and would cost a lot of money to acquire? Sure. Is it likely? I just don't see it. We have too many other positions in worse need of upgrade, and I'm still not convinced the coaches are that dissatisfied with his improvement here.
     
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    Carr's pathetic play over 5 years is the only endorsement most of us need.
     
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    Well I don't think they're satisfied. So if they aren't dissatisfied, but probably not delusional enough to be "satisfied", does that make them indifferent? Unless someone offers a decent deal for Carr I'm assuming he will be back, but I want some real competition. And if Sage gets hurt for whatever reason I don't want to be forced to stick with Carr all season just because he's the Default QB. Give Sage a realistic shot and draft a rookie. If Plummer will come here cheap for a year, do that. I don't care. I want Carr's back to be on the anvil with the hammer looming overhead, and if he can't handle it, someone else gets a shot. I don't care if it means a lack of continuity, because continuity with Carr under center equals continuous suck with a smidgen of mediocre.

    If he can have an entire season like his first few games, I will gladly eat an entire flock of crow and enjoy every bite because the bottom line is that I want this team to win.
     
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    Well then, let's really :stirpot:

    Carr goes to Oakland for there 2nd round pick.
    Plummer comes to Houston for Sage.

    That way, Oakland can use there 1st overall on the man they really want, a Badass WR.

    You guys that hate Carr, get your wish, he will be gone...

    And for those of us who think Pummer is not the answer, will see us drafting in the top 5 next year and grabbing a franchise QB...

    Chad Henne from Michigan, Brian Brohm from Louisville, or Colt Brennan from Hawaii...

    Then with our 1st pick this year, we take AD, then with Oakland's 2nd rounder and our 2nd rounder, we can address D or OL or both...

    Would that make everyone happy? :hides:
     
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    Which is why Denver will have to cut him. They are not going to pay him the money he is making to be a back up, period. And there is no reason to let him play now that Cutler has shown he can grow into the position.

    So we do not need to trade him, Plummer knows Kubiaks number and what his career was under him, Jake will call when he is released.

    I am starting to warm up to the idea of having a guy that can make this team into winners, not just close to .500. Not saying Jake can take us to the promised land but he will take us past where we have been.

    Maybe signing Jake, trading Carr, keeping Sage, and drafting a 3 round or later QB is the way to go. Let Jake and Sage lead this team to a playoff type team and let the draftee learn and hold the clip board. In a few years Jake, will become the old guy back up and the young guy should be ready, if they picked the right one.
     

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