And the hits just keep on comin....

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  1. DX-TEX

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    The defense should be fuming mad at this point. Have some pride guys!
     
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    Typical Wade Phillips defense. If you look at the history, his defense start out huge, then as the years go by, they start to slide further and further down...

    It has been like that almost everywhere he has gone...
     
  3. DX-TEX

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    You do realize the points include Pick 6's and special teams TD's. Kind of deceiving stat
     
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    Yep. Pick-6's in five straight games is 35 points the offense has given up. The special teams has given up at least 14 points. So there's 49 points this team has allowed that the defense didn't contribute to, and that's not counting Schaub's INT that set SD up to score a TD or Tate's fumble that cost this team another 3 points (Seattle didn't even get a first down on that drive).
     
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    The Texans D has given up a TD 76% of the time in the red zone (from teamrankings.com, sorry don't have the exact URL). We are LAST in the league in that category.

    Our D is stinking it up right now. Their issues have just been overshadowed by the distraction of the QB problems.
     
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    I still firmly believe our defense just said "**** it" after the Niners pick 6.

    So yes it is STILL on all Schaubiak
     
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    http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-red-zone-scoring-pct

    There ya go.
     
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    Of course the points allowed stats is counting the Schaubs and special teams allowing TDs.

    I know this is true, but I still think that part of this is due to them always being on the field and the offense putting them in short fields.
     


  9. 76Texan

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    Big deal.

    It could mean that the opponents only managed to get to our redzone four times and they scored 3 TDs.

    Other teams may have a lower percentage, but they got burned by long bombs before the opponents get to the red zone.

    It's better to combine everything on the field to come to a final conclusion.
     
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    Numbers and stats are for blind people who cant think for themselves.
     
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    What I'd like to know is the Texans ranking in:

    1.) Average yards surrendered outside the red zone, or how many yards does it take the opponent to get to the red zone, and ...

    2.) How successful are they at keeping teams out of the red zone.

    Red zone TD percentage by itself doesn't tell me much. The fact that they've given up an 80+ yard drive every game is far more concerning to me than any raw stat anyone has mentioned in this thread.
     
  12. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    This "we don't need a big NT" crap really serves the team well in the red zone (say it with the appropriate amount of sarcasm please) when there is more player per square yard than out in space where you have to defend the back end.
     
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    The Texans suck in the red zone on both sides of the ball this year. It's pathetic really.

    And our special teams never seem to get out of the red zone on kickoffs.

    It's obvious: the Texans are allergic to the red zone in all phases of the game.
     
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    Zone blocking teams are notoriously poor in the red zone since they don't have drive blocking type linemen for the most part. ZBS teams are full of feet guys...guys good in space. On defense, as we all know, we don't need no stinkin' large NT.
     
  15. DX-TEX

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    Were we not the best red zone team last season?
     
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    Perhaps there's something that the Texans marketing department could do to lend a hand? Maybe they could rename it "The Battle Red Zone" and give out little red towels to wave whenever the Texans are in it. Then we could get the band "Simply Red" to write and perform a song that the team could play whenever they got into said "Battle Red Zone" (Hey it makes as much sense as bringing Vanilla ****ing Ice in to play on "Everybody wear white day"). The concessions would offer a special discount on Big Red and Killians Red while the team was inside the 20's.

    No?
     
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    I wonder if there's a guy out there right now who could come in and be that big ol' Cheeseburger eating NT we used to always talk about? Anyone still a free agent who can clog up the middle better than Mitchell?
     
  19. Vinny

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    donno, but for quickie examples...the Chiefs defense went to the next level when Poe found himself, the Patriots just stuff the run when the field shrinks when Wilfork is in the game. Sean Rogers is what? 80 years old and still stuffs the middle of the line when you really need to dig in. There comes a time in every game where you just dig in and hold your ground or get pushed back. We get pushed back alot. The laws of physics can not be debated in the red zone.
     
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    Every year in April I keep hoping that it will finally be the year the Texans get a big ugly nt in one of the 1st 2 rounds. Never happens.
     

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