Amobi Okoya and the "B" word

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  1. Hagar

    Hagar Drink up yall, its the Texans!

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    Its starting to look awfully grim y'all. I decided to focus on one player today and that was Amobi Okoya. When he was in the game, which was most plays, I watched no one but him. I'll have to say, I was very, very disappointed. He's not firing off hard, he's not shucking blocks, and he's not hussling to the ball. Basically, he's not doing anything at all and his numbers show it too. Including today, Amobi has 9 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.

    I hope the best for him and that he turns this around, but I'm pulling out the "B" word. Given his play this season and his lack of progress, he looks like a BUST.
     
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  2. Norg

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    Not Bust yet

    hes young give him 2 more years lets not cut him loose yet
     
  3. ATXtexanfan

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    Hard to argue the bust label, how's patrick willis doing?
     
  4. LORK 88

    LORK 88 Wreck'em Ŧech!

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    Most football players his age are juniors in college right now. We knew when we drafted him that we were going to have to wait a bit to see what kind of football player he could turn in to.
     
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  5. J-Russ

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    Yep. I said the same thing everytime someone wants to mention that Amobi is a bust. They never listen though, seems like they can only hear the negative stuff.
     
  6. TheRealJoker

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    DLs have a 2-3 year adjustment period. At this point he is a pass rush specialist, he doesn't hold the point of attack against the run. I really thought this would be his breakout game but I guess not.
     
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    I don't mind him being a pass-rush specialist, but he has no sacks. :cool:
     
  8. Mari-OWNED!

    Mari-OWNED! Bucco Bruce

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    I agree with everyone that says we need to wait and give him more time to develop. Obviously he hasn't done much this season so far, but I think he has a lot of potential. We're just used to the fact that Mario got good really quick. Other players take a little more time. A little patience before we call him a bust.
     


  9. utahmark

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    its way to early and he's way to young for that. i thought you were talking about another "b" word.
     
  10. thunderkyss

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    We need to figure out what we want to do on DL first of all.

    We don't have a NT..... the only pressure we get from the middle, is when we put a DE in at tackle....... Cochran or Weaver.

    I like TJ, but if Amobi is ever going to be what we want him to be, we're going to have to get a real starting NT.
     
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    Has anyone notice Bulman's play? I never hear Okoye's or Weaver's number called but I have noticed him the last two games.
     
  12. Hagar

    Hagar Drink up yall, its the Texans!

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    If he wasn't ready to play with the big boys, then he should have stayed in school. When you make someone a #10 pick, he has to contribute now. Not in 3 - 4 year.

    Its time for him to step up.
     
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    I'd be more inclined to call Richard Smith a bust. Let's see Amobi can do with a real defensive coordinator before we give up on him.
     
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    He was a senior in college.... I guess he could've been a super-senior and wait it out another year or two sitting around twiddling his thumb. He had already used up all his playing abilities in college.
     
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    The term "sophomore slump" isnt so popular because of its rarity.
     
  16. Spike

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    Whether he was a senior or not is not the real issue. The question is whether the Texans would have taken Amobi with the #10 pick if they knew that this would be his production after a season and a half. I don't think so.

    If they took him with the 10th pick thinking that it would take him longer to develop than another lineman who was a little older, then it was a mistake to take him so early. Even if he did mature in the time frame that they thought, they may not have their jobs to see him succeed.
     
  17. J-Russ

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    My response was meant for his 'if he wasn't ready then he should of stay in school' comment.

    Let me use your logic though. If the teams that was drafting in front of us knew that he would've been as productive as he was by the end of the season in his rookie year, then he would've been long gone before it was our turn to pick. 20 year old rookie with 5.5 sack, Tommie Harris and Warren Sapp didn't even produced that many sack in their rookie season.
     
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  18. Goldensilence

    Goldensilence hipster elite

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    Was he a bust when he managed 5 sacks in his rookie season?

    Hagar you don't do your argument any favor when you can't even spell his name right or forget he was a senior at 19 when we drafted him.Can we please give player 3 years before we use the word bust with a player?

    I'm curious can you even name the last DT drafted that has made an immediate impact?
     
  19. Shaft75

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    A bust is usually defined by a breakout plyer that was picked after the "bust" player. So yeah... He is really working on that label.
    Time for this highly paid first rounder to start earning his keep.

    What has happened since the beginning of last season???
     
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    You're taking a beating on this, but I DO agree that at a #10 slot, you expect someone who can produce "right away". This particular pick is a mild exception to that rule for the reasons everyone else is harping on. The kid is still going to be on/off for awhile.

    The calculated upside of all of this is that IF he gets it together by end of year three...we'll have a "seasoned VET" at the age of an incoming rookie with a promising future ahead.
     

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