Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by Wolf, Feb 2, 2010.
I liked what I saw from Dan Williams during the Senior Bowl. He didn't light up the stat box with a lot of sacks or anything, but he was playing hard and making an impact out there, which is more than I can say for anyone we have at DT right now. Many people have said he's got some work ethic problems, and that may be true, but he looked good.
I think our 1st round pick will come down to choosing between Dan Williams, Kyle Wilson, Earl Thomas, C.J. Spiller, or Mike Iupati. With that said I think Dan Williams is highly unlikely because he won't be available, he'll go in the top 15. If he is there then he is a no brainer pick, you run to the podium with his name in your hand. He'd be the answer to our continued problems at DT and anchor this D-line for years to come.
Sounds good to me. I love having options. If we get to #20 and have Dan Williams, and Earl Thomas on the board I will be in hog heaven.
I like the fact that JD Walton knocked Williams and his 329 pounds on his butt during a blocking drill week of the Senior Bowl.
Could be a guy we look at in round 3 since we need help in the interior.
I really like Dan Williams so that means he won't play here. Seems like every year I think someone is perfect for the team, he goes somewhere else (for any number of reasons). He can anchor, penetrate and he can wall off and keep someone off DeMeco...what's not to like?
Vinny likes him? Damn... Sounds like he will be going to a division rival...
I don't care what it takes, if you don't win in the trenches then you aren't gonna be a perennial contender. Just because we've been burnt on 1st round DTs thus far doesn't mean we forget about one of our biggest weaknesses. If a player is there that the FO thinks can make us a stronger team in the trenches you have to take a shot... especially if the "BPA" isn't very far apart from him or if he even is the BPA.
Dan Williams seems to fit the bill. The learning curve is steep for DL but we've gotta find a dominant NT to plug up the middle, collapse the pocket, and keep bodies off of DeMeco or this defense will never reach its potential. He's not gonna impact the stat sheet like Cushing, but maybe he can impact the defense just the same by opening other players up to make plays (allowing DeMeco more room to work by tying up blockers and giving Mario a better opportunity to attack the QB by collapsing the pocket).
I would like to see us pick up a dominant interior OL, ballhawking safety, or a dominant DT in the first round. It seems that the three best candidates to shore up these weaknesses are Iupati, Thomas, or Williams. Williams dominated Iupati at the senior bowl so that puts him ahead imo. A dominant DT trumps a dominant safety so he is ahead of Thomas as well (again imo). Only problem is... his stock is rising so fast that I doubt he makes it out of the top 10 come April
I think the biggest problem with this guy is his name. The Vikings are about to lose Pat Williams to reitirement, which will open a need for DTs name 'williams', so they can keep their trademark 'Williams Wall' going. The Vikings will trade up to 10-15 to get him before the Texans ever have a shot!
I have a friend in Knoxville that's watched every game he's played and these are some of his thoughts:
Often double-teamed, but still managed to be an excellent run-stopper. He is not noted for his pass-rush ability.
Many credit Monte Kiffin and Ed Orgeron (last seasons defensive coordinator and defensive line coaches, respectively) for his improvement during his senior season. I think more than anything they used their NFL experience and convinced him that millions of dollars are at stake and he responded to that.
Some speculate that without the tutelage of Kiffin and Orgeron, (and with money in his pocket) Dan might tend to get lackadaisical when left to his own devices. His work ethic has been called into question quite often, not due to laziness as much as just a laid back approach to the game. He has also had significant weight issues in the past, though this is currently not an issue. He began his career as an offensive lineman and he was at about 357lbs then now down to about 325lbs. Nevertheless, his weight struggles have reinforced the questioning of his work ethic and motivation.
No reports of off-the-field problems or attitude issues that I can recall.
Ok the Vikes are in the 30 slot.
the value of their pick according to the chart is 620.
To move up to ten, a slot valued at 1300, they would have to give up picks equal to 680. Which would be most of their picks. They could have a party Friday and Saturday I suppose, then come back Sunday.
The fifteen scenario is a little more doable. The value of that slot is 1080.
They would only have to come up with 460. A swap and their second, third and sixth round picks might just do it. I like the guy, but three guys for one ?
He better be the second coming of John Randle with that type of move.
The major movers and shakers with the ammo to move around are Tampa Bay, Cleveland, San Francisco and New England. They have enough ammo to move around and basically choose who they want. Everyone else..... it's going to cost. And it's going to cost big. Look at the Fa lists...sellers market.
Is cheaper to get him a jersey too. They already have a big jersey with Willaims on it. Easy fit.
Personally I think Dan Williams will have a good week at the combine, and shoot up the charts to a 3-4 defense like his ex teammate Robert Ayers.
I was actually just kidding about all that, but it would be awesome if the Vikings gave up their 2011 1st and 3rd round picks for the 10-15 spot to get Williams. You never know though, he may drop all the way to 29th for them.
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