Aggies trying to get it together

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  1. thunderkyss

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    I thought this was an interesting read.

    Especially this statement.
    That is always the first thing I hear talked about, when judging how good a team will be in the upcoming year. It is a very prevalent idea in college football. I believe it is just as important in the NFL, but doesn't get the lip-service.
     
  2. Dutchrudder

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    I never really read up much on NCAA teams because they are so flukey. I hope the Aggies get it together this year and get 7 or 8 wins, but I have my doubts. They just never seem to dominate games even against weak conference opponents.
     
  3. Goldensilence

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    Jeeze starting freshmen at BOTH tackle spots?!

    I think it's going to be another rough season in College Station for Aggie fans.

    I wasn't sure if Sherman was the right pick for them. I mean I guess the idea of getting a former successful NFL coach as a recruiting tool sounds like a good idea, just not sure if it's going to work well for them in the long run.

    I don't think Mike lasts past next year unless he gets things turned around REAL quick this coming year.

    I'm admittedly a big UT fan, but a rivalry isn't much fun if one side is struggling terribly. I'd really like to see A&M get back on track.
     
  4. Ole Miss Texan

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    I actually think Sherman is a great fit in College Station. It's hard to tell how they're going to do next season (1) due to the "youngness" of their team/starters and (2) there's no telling how the other teams in the Big XII Light are going to do.

    The thing about it is he's just now finally getting "his" players to make up the roster. I know that's ALWAYS an excuse for a coach but in this case A&M knew he needed to completely rebuild the program. Plus with them switching to a 3-4 and him getting DeRuyter, I don't see how A&M can get rid of him next season (barring something absolutely awful). It's in A&M's best interest to give a few more years, IMO.

    I think A&M is on the verge of coming back and being a big football force.
     
  5. Ckw

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    Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews (son of the one and only Bruce Matthews) are legit. They are as ready as any freshman lineman in the entire country.

    Besides, it can't get any worse than last season. It is amazing what Jerrod Johnson did behind that pitiful line.

    I can see it both ways. If the defense and offensive lines even show a mild improvement, I believe A&M can be contenders for the Big XII this year especially with the usually big teams (Tech, Texas, and Oklahoma) starting young, inexperienced QBs.

    I still have my doubts as well.

    Agreed. Although it is fun, and would have been great last season, when the underdog is able to end a teams National Championship hopes like A&M almost did to Texas last season.

    I hope you are right. The team is very young and Sherman has had some pretty good recruiting classes. A&M just needs to get back to being known as Linebacker U. With our current guys, I just don't see that this year, but the secondary is much improved and hopefully the defensive line will show some improvement.

    I will say this: A&M has some of the best skill position players in college football. Jerrod Johnson is becoming a household name (and maybe even a first round draft pick next year), Christine Michael is as legit as they come and brings it all (speed, power, strength, agility, but he just needs to stay healthy), Cyrus Gray is a great change of pace back, Jeff Fuller is going to be playing on Sundays when all is said and done, and Uzoma Nwachukwu had about as impressive of a freshman season as anyone in the country.
     
  6. Ole Miss Texan

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    Agreed ckw. I think A&M could be a surprise team this year. From the looks of it, their schedule doesn't look "all that tough". Not saying it's easy but I think it's set up just about as nice as it could get.

    Texas and OU are recruiting machines so they continually have depth to replace players that leave, but with that said can Gilbert get it done for UT? Is Sam Bradford's replacement going to be able to handle it? Is it Landry Jones?

    Is Jerrod Johnson the best QB in the Big XII this season? It all starts with the QB (although it is a team game!)... is he the most experienced?


    I see next season them going maybe 8-4'sih? They'll meet Ole Miss in the Cotton Bowl and unfortunately for A&M fans/players/alumni... I'll be in Dallas watching Ole Miss' 3rd Cotton Bowl victory in a row. :)
     
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    The Aggies have been trying to "get it together" for over a decade now.
     
  8. Goldensilence

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    Is Johnson the best QB in the Big XII? On paper right now yes without a doubt. I will say Gilbert did look impressive in the bowl game once Greg Davis took the training wheels off and let him sling the ball around. If UT can get any kind of running game going they'll be fine. Landri Jones got some good playing time and Stoops is a good recruiter. They'll have talent to surround him with. It will also be interesting to see who wins out at QB at Tech under Tuberville.

    I do think Sherman is a good "fit" in College Station, but is that going to be enough for a ravenous fan base and the equally starved alumni to keep him around if they continue to struggle much longer? I don't know.

    Yep, their skill positions are good as any in the country and they'll have to continue to play at a high level if they want to compete for the Big XII title this year. They're going to have to carry that team early and often.
     


  9. Ckw

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    For now, I don't think there is any question he is the best QB in the Big XII. Zac Robinson? Gone. Colt McCoy? Gone. Gilbert? Unproven. Graham Harrel? Gone. Todd Reesing? Gone. Gabbert from Missouri? We'll see. Landry Jones? Another we'll see.

    Jerrod is the most "proven" QB in the Big XII this year, but he still needs to take another step. The only guy that may contend for now with Jerrod is Robert Griffin, but he was injured all of last year so who knows what he will look like. I will go back to what I said before though. Too many people just looked at the stats and didn't actually see just how bad the A&M offensive line was last year. They were AWFUL. So I might be hyping Jerrod a little too much just because he was able to make people not notice just how bad the line was.

    Can't quote your responses but agree that maybe "mild improvement" was a bit of an understatement. Point I was making is I don't see the players at the skill positions regressing. In fact if the line is even slightly better, and which from what I have heard the addition of Joeckel and Matthews has been HUGE, Jerrod Johnson will be an even better QB this year thus making our WRs look even better and allowing our RBs more room to run the ball.

    The defense still needs a lot of work, but maybe (hopefully) the problem has been the DC and this new DC will get things turned around. We'll see.
     
  10. Ole Miss Texan

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    Thanks for the info on the Big XII QBs. I asked because I honestly aren't too familiar with them. You always see the big programs churning out quality guys but losing Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford are big losses anyway you slice it.

    OU loses: QB Sam Bradford, DT Gerald McCoy, LT Trent Williams, TE Jermain Gresham
    Texas loses: QB Colt McCoy, WR Jordan Shipley, DE Sergio Kindle, S Earl Thomas, DT Lamarr Houston, LB Rodrick Muckleroy, T Adam Ulatoski
    Oklahoma St loses: QB Zac Robinson, LT Russell Okung, WR Dez Bryant, CB Perrish Cox
    Nebraska loses: Ndamakung Suh

    Those were key pieces to the success of their respective teams!!

    I've watched Jerrod Johnson here and there the last couple of years and have been impressed by his athleticism. With that said, and A&M's lack of success lately, it kind of surprises me that A&M will be the "frontrunner" we'll call it as far as having the best and most experienced QB in the conference. I think that will go a long way in the confidence of team coupled with the "lack of experience" of the other teams in conference.

    Best of luck to the Aggies. It's always better when both A&M and UT have strong programs!
     
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    Well, I guess playing two freshmen at the end of the line really can't hurt at this point can it? You're right though I don't see their outside skill positions getting worse, only better.

    Though I would guess it's hard to tell how much the line really has improved considering the suspect defense. I agree on them needing to focus back on becoming "Linebacker U", though I still think Miami and Penn State belt them out better than anyone, if they want to get back to being the Wrecking Crew.

    Ultimately, how do you see this team faring? Is it too early to tell?
     
  12. Ckw

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    You are right about Jerrod being a heck of a guy. Can't remember if it was me that posted it, but I do remember reading the article you were referring to. I think it was by John Lopez of all people (can't stand the guy), and he is really good friends with Jerrod's family.

    As far as your final question, I'd say it all depends on Sherman. This team has too many good pieces to not have a decent season. Jerrod is a great leader at QB, Christine Michael and Jeff Fuller both have the talent to be NFL players down the road, Nwachukwu has loads of potential, Trent Hunter and Terrance Fredrick are both dang good DBs, Von Miller showed everyone last season how effortless he could make it look getting to the QB, Lucas Patterson showed some real potential at NT after switching over from the OL (if I remember correctly), and the list goes on.

    This needs to be a make it or break it year for Sherman, but the poster above is probably right that if this season is a failure, they will probably give him and the new DC another chance. Personally, I don't think they should, but I don't make the calls.
     
  13. Ole Miss Texan

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    If they don't start 3-0, I think they should be worried.

    Then they have 2 away games against tough but not great teams. OSU has lost some key talent; Ryan Mallet could be good for ARK.

    Last 7 games are against conference opponents:
    - Mizzou, Tech, OU and Nebraska at home
    - Kansas, Baylor and Texas away

    If there is any season in which they have a chance, I think the "conditions" and "schedule" bode well for them. It's just up to the Aggies to execute and take care of business. With that said, it's not like Texas is a worse football team and the longhorns don't have a difficult schedule themselves. I don't see them going undefeated though. OU has the toughest schedule of the 3. Should be a fun season to watch! Can't wait for some SEC and Big XII football... and TEXANS.
     
  14. Ole Miss Texan

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    Neither do I... otherwise we'd be talking A&M and SEC football... :stirpot:
     
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    Looks like you could be right. The schedule doesn't have a whole lot of major pitfalls and the majority of the big games are at home for them.

    If their secondary doesn't improve Mallet will carve them up.

    Biggest question mark in the BIG XII this coming season is going to be what happens in Lubbock. What does this Tech team look like without Leech as the captain? I'd be interested to see what you and CKW think, and it'd be interesting to see GP chime in with some insight.
     
  16. Ckw

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    I wonder this as much as you do. I mean is Tech still going to be the pass-heavy, light up the scoreboard, spread offense? Or will they take a more conservative approach, run the football, and improve on their defense. If the latter is the case, I would venture to guess it will be a few years before Tuberville can turn the team around. If the former is the case, I'd say Tech will be very similar to what they were last year, and every year for the last 10 years. A good team that can light it up, compete, but never win the big game.
     
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    All ima say is this: Don't take the Aggies light this year if you're TU, Oklahoma or any other Big 12 fan... I think A&M is turning the corner...
     
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    U just keep keepin' on! Faith will light your path, even though the path leads to despair.
     
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    Jimbo Fisher started 2 freshman tackles as offensive coordinator for the Seminoles too, and the offense improved. Now those guys are juniors and are great players for the team. See 2008 freshman All-American LT Andrew Datko and RT Zebrie Sanders.
     
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    I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one. Aggies have been telling me that for almost a decade now it seems.

    I see A&M going 7-5 or 8-4 this year. I think they lose to OU and UT for sure. And I think that they lose at least two of the following: Arkansas, Texas Tech, Nebraska.

    As a UT fan, I'm ready for A&M to be back. A rivalry just doesn't really feel like a rivalry when one team has won eight of the last ten.
     

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