After watching the last 3 games over -- blocking

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  1. speedfreek

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    Wow, this team just cannot block at all at the line of scrimmage.
    When the opposing defense wants to impose their will, they do it!

    I have never seen the Texans have worse o-line, TE, and receiver
    blocking -- and I've been watching since year 1..

    The sheer number of negative rushing plays, negative WR screen
    and bubble screen plays, and the number of times a LB comes
    scott free up the middle is mind numbing...

    It's as though the team has completely forgotten how to block
    schematically. Either we're missing key coaching to continue to
    run the zone scheme, or the people we now have just can't do it.

    It's obvious when you watch everything in slow-mo -- sometimes
    they look completely lost after the snap!

    TJ
     
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  2. Uncle Rico

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    Kevin Walters come back!
     
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  3. tvaughan

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    The blitzing had gotten most of the attention, but you're right, the line makes average lineman look like JJ Watt. More than a few times I have seen defenders make a bee line to the QB after someone on the right side got their assignment right.

    The defender made one quick move and was suddenly in the backfield.

    There is something terribly wrong with this team. Our anger at Schaub's pick sixes took the focus the first six games, and now the blitzing is doing it.

    But the trouble is far deeper than those things. And I think it's getting worse.
     
  4. speedfreek

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    Honestly, I would completely scrap the stretch plays.

    The line is getting totally blown up when they are not spreading
    the field. It looks like the pistol is the safest option, but Tate
    with broken ribs is probably not going to be able to take on anyone
    coming in at full speed.

    The goal line stuff is even worse. These guys get knocked backwards
    as soon as the ball twitches..

    TJ
     
  5. speedfreek

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    And Owen Daniel too..



     
  6. CloakNNNdagger

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    OD has never been the greatest blocker. But today he would have to be considered the best of the TEs.
     
  7. CloakNNNdagger

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    The Pistol seemed to work well when they incorporated into Case's repertoire.
     
  8. speedfreek

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    Just having fun with names....

    Owen Daniel(s) & Kevin Walter/s

    Carry on..
    TJ

     


  9. speedfreek

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    >The Pistol seemed to work well when they incorporated into Case's repertoire.

    It's the only formation that Tate seems to consistently make positive
    yardage out of..

    TJ
     
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    Wish I could rep you. The Texans certainly have developed that total LOST in space look.:kubepalm:
     
  11. Scooter

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    my issue is the shotgun and pistol. i'm not an expert on blocking, but teams that dont have their quarterback under center tend to have a lot of problems run blocking. you have to build your line for that style of offense, and those offenses are built around elite quarterbacks - brady, manning, rodgers, etc. the only one that doesnt fit that is the saints, they have a top 3-5 quarterback but still put a ton of emphasis on keeping the running game active with scheme, money, and draft picks. since we're built to run block in the zone scheme, we are having a lot of trouble trying to adjust 10 players to fit the new #1.

    i 100% believe that if we can get keenum comfortable under center we'll be a WHOOOOLE lot more consistent and it will improve our blocking to at least last year's level. it will keep teams from coming after the quarterback because doing so will open running lanes, and it will give keenum more opportunities to play-action into 8 second plays that find someone deep. part of that is because the line WANTS to run block, they get to impose their will. spending all day dropping and being a little off with the long snap is exhausting and the defense gets to adjust individually and schematically to get through.
     
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    Common sense really, hand the ball off to a runner with forward momentum or hand the ball off to a stationary runner while the defense gains the forward momentum.
     
  13. speedfreek

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    Honestly, watching some of the stretch runs, our o-line seems to
    be so slow moving post snap that sometimes d-linemen are getting
    into the gaps and cutting off the runner before any lanes even
    develop.

    If the QB keeps it, the same d-lineman is getting a free shot at the
    QB.

    What I think would work (or at least help a bunch) is to get our
    guys in pistol more (which gives the QB a run/pass option) and
    speed up the entire attack by using the sugar-huddle or 2 minute drill..

    The best way to help our slow o-line play is to wear the defense down
    and slow them up as well.

    In fact, it actually pissed me off when Gary put in Schaub and went
    2-minute drill in the 3rd Q last week. He could do that with Schaub and
    not Keenum?

    Keenum ran the fastest offense in the NCAA for 3 of his 4 years!!

    TJ
     
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    Got him for you.

    Danger Case Keenum, danger.
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  15. Bulls on Parade

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    Not having a reliable running game certainly hurts us. We don't even have the chance to dictate the pace of the game anymore. It used to be that we could run the ball down other teams' throats, especially the bad teams, but that's no longer an option and opposing defenses know it. The Jaguars defensive line will probably look good on Sunday.
     
  16. thunderkyss

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    I've said things about Case that makes some people think I am biased against him. However, all things considering, the injuries we've sustained on offense, the issue with Kubiak's health, the issues at RT... the offense is doing "well"

    The defense, on the other hand... we can't be giving up TDs every time we turn the ball over & we can't be giving up 28 points to undrafted rookies on their first start & we can't be giving up 80 yard TD runs to guys who run a 4.5 forty.

    Had anyone made a tackle, had Dj Swearinger not get trucked... Schaub would have watched Case win his first game as a Houston Texan at home.

    If we had anyone other than Brice McCain playing CB... if we could have kept him off the field, the Raiders just might have scored 14 points less than they did on Sunday.
     
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    I just want to reiterate that, yes, the blocking really does suck monkey's...


    :kitten:
     
  18. Insideop

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    While I agree with the problems you've mentioned on Offense the same could be said for the Defense. The loss of Cushing and Manning. The issues with Ed Reed. The issues with B. McCain. The issues with the lack of sacks/pressure from the OLB's. Other than that the Defense is playing well.

    Face it, this team has lost a lot of talent, and I'm not just talking about injuries either. This team has lost a lot the last 2 years due to the salary cap! Anyone, unless they're blind, can look at the O-line and LBers and see they've lost talent and haven't been able to replace it. One bad or unproductive draft class, plus some key injuries, and you can see what happens. Guys that were being counted on to fill the voids of those who left aren't there. Some teams are good enough and lucky enough to fill those voids, or their coaches have built up enough reputation (winning seasons) to weather a down year or 2, but I don't think Kubes has. And, Smith might be going too!
     
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    True... true...

    But 28 points to a 1st time starting undrafted free agent rookie. An 80 yard TD drive to a guy who runs a 4.5 forty...
     
  20. Seegara

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    They need more goal line running plays than the handoff to the RB 9 yards deep in the backfield.
     

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