Adam Schein on Schaub....

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  1. DX-TEX

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-rise-in-allornothing-year-for-houston-texans

    A couple years ago I never would have thought I would hear the word "toughness" used about Matt. He has a lot to prove and all the pressure to go along with it.

    While most point at the faltering of the defense down the stretch last season the blame still falls on the QB. He is the team leader and the face so he gets the blame because he didn't exactly play good.

    This team though is loaded from top to bottom and I honestly believe that they are the most talented in the AFC and top 3 in the NFL.
     
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    Going into 2012, everyone said the Texans were a starting QB away from the Super Bowl. Well, they got their starter back for all 16 games in 2012. 'Nuff said.
     
  3. Playoffs

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    Interesting read, thanks for posting.
     
  4. thunderkyss

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    We're kinda sorta where the Cowboys were with Wade & Parcells. Very few people would argue those weren't talented teams, but the question was around their QB. They had a defense, they had a run game, but they also had Tony Romo.

    I like Romo as a player, love to watch him play. But I don't want him as a Texan, because of that choke factor. Totally different type of player than Schaub, but the end results so far has been the same.

    We should have won the Super Bowl in 2011. No doubt in my mind we'd have beat New England in the AFC Championship game.

    We should have won the Super Bowl in 2012, you can't tell me we aren't talented enough.

    I think our window closes here in 2013. If we don't win it this year, we're not going to with the group we have here; Smith, Kubiak, & Schaub. We might win 10 games in 2014, but we won't be as close to a Super Bowl as we are today. They won't change Matt Schaub, they won't change Gary Kubiak & we might be a "good" play off team through 2016, but we'll never be closer to a Super Bowl than we are now if we don't win it in 2013.
     
  5. TexansRule1

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    Can you elaborate on this? Why?
     
  6. thunderkyss

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    I'm just being Debbie Downer.

    We're extremely lucky that Aj is still playing at the level he is playing at. & Arian Foster is already past the life expectancy of the avg running back.

    Antonio had a career year in 2011, then again in 2012. Chances of him doing it again is slim. Jj Watt can't play any better than he did last season (I know... I know...)

    But we aren't as young as we used to be & it's going to be difficult to keep this up past three years.... this would be our third year of 10+ wins.

    The Colts finally got one after years with Peyton, we could get lucky like that, but I think the odds are against it.

    The Patriots haven't won one, since Tom Brady became the Patriots. Remember they used to have a run game & a defense...

    But the time is now, if we don't win it this year, I don't think we will anytime soon. We might be good enough to win 10 games in 2015 & 2016, but after that... not so much.
     
  7. since02

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    I agree, but I'm basing it not on age, and how players produced the past two seasons... I'm basing it on the fact that ALOT of contacts of key players are coming up and were not going to be able to retain alot of them... The core of the team is soon to fall apart.
     
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    Who do you consider the "core" of the team?

    2014: Antonio Smith, Cushing
    2015: OD, Manning, KJ, JJ Watt
    2016: JJo, Chris Myers
    2017: AJ, Schaub, Arian, Hopkins
    2019: Duane Brown

    This FO has done a good job stockpiling talent and has been almost draconian in letting people go before they turn into an issue: Dunta, Demeco, Winston, Brisiel. The mark of a good FO is the ability to re-load by letting costly vets go, signing the important guys, and drafting everyone's replacement. This FO has shown signs they can do that.

    So I'm not worried about losing the core players at this point. We'll burn that bridge when we get there.
     
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    Uh, no it's actually been quite the opposite. People placing the lions share of the blame on Matt and pretty much giving the defense a pass.
     
  11. 76Texan

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    I heard a lot about how we had no outside pass rush, how our ILBs suck after losing Cush, how we had no presence in the middle, how Demps, Keo, McCain, B Harris, and Ball suck.

    I heard how our ST was terrible, and that Marciano should have been fired.

    But everything is still on the QB. :)
     
  12. Playoffs

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    Everything I can find from TC of his footwork, Dr. CND...

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    --houstontexans.com
     
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    Looking better Doc, no?
     
  15. 76Texan

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    I think Schaub looks less like a statue so far this preseason.
    I think the weigh loss can help him a little this year.
    I hope is probably a better choice of words. :good:
     
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    Check out Brooks in each one of those shots.
     
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  18. DX-TEX

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    I was at the game Sunday and he looks slower in real life than on TV
     
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    IMO he's been the best lineman during preseason. any time i focus on brooks, his man is absolutely stoned. he's even able to tag one guy and slide to help outside, effectively collecting two blocks. i'm also seeing fewer and fewer mental issues, he's firing off better and more decisively each outing.

    newton on the other hand, well mama said if i cant say something nice ...
     
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    Yeah, and it is a bogus stat. Teams win and lose games and every one of them does better against non-playoff teams.
     

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