:brickwall Ok, I had to reset my password and get re-signed back up because all of this simplemindedness is KILLING ME! Only the simple minded or intellectually challenged need a single focal point for a failure or lack of performance. In almost EVERY SINGLE case, in EVERY environment, it is a COMBINATION of causes that lead to a perceived or real failure to achieve said objectives. I will start by saying I am not a Carr fan, and that I don't think he is the answer. That way the short-sighted of you will actually READ the following, instead of forming an opinion of what I am going to say immediately and jumping straight to the bottom. With that said, there isn't a QB in the game that could play behind our O-Line and offensive play calling right now except for maybe Vick... and maybe VY. (not proposing the VY debate at all). The reason I say that is because our O-line is basically a set of turnstiles for the defense on their way to the QB, and there is rarely ever an 'outlet" in the play for when the QB is under pressure. The only QB that could succeed in this offense is one that doubles as a running back like Vick and VY, providing the O-Line could provide him at least one lousy block to get him back to LOS. Have any of you people even watched the games?? When you have trouble getting into a three step drop before the defense is on you, it is NOT solely on the shoulders of the QB. The O-line has failed to protect, the play calling has failed to provide a quick outlet for the QB to throw to, and there is no threat of a run or the defense would not be rushing the passer every single play. Look at how long it took them in the Raiders game to control Dayne. Do you really think that it was big Ron Dayne that had a great game?? He did pretty good, and showed a lot of effort but it took that long for the defense to get out of the rush the passer mentality. They still had Carr's blood scent in their nostrils and forgot out to look for a RB. Dayne is a CAREER backup who has failed to catch on at any team in how many years??? They make him look like the second coming of the bus in his first game back. Good for him, but it says more about focus of the defense than it does about his performance. Rosenfels - Ok this one is a fun one. This guy has never succeeded ANYWHERE. Who was he backing up again in Miami?? I dont even need to say it. He has a couple games (pre-season) and you guys think he is Joe Montana. You are so eager to find something simple to blame the team's performance on. It is quite easy to blame Carr isn't it?? Quite convenient. So convenient it doesnt even require thought, or brains. Sage isn't a bad QB, but he is NOT a star. Any of you who actually saw the Titans game that you have based your opinion of him as the savior of our offense, would have noticed that the Titans let up a LOT in their defense. They thought he was gonna be running the ball, so weren't prepared for it when he passed. Look at the formations they were in. Back to the QB situation. What do you do to beat the Colts?? You pressure Manning. Simple, clean cut. You get pressure on him, he crumbles. That is why he has difficulty in the playoffs. He doesn't play well under pressure. Neither did Moon, or Marino. Heck the poster child QB from last year doesn't play well with defenders in his face, see his performance this year? (Roethlesburger). Not every QB can have the presence of a Joe Montana or Elway. Not every QB can run like a Vick or McNabb to elude pressure. You stick pretty much any QB in our offense right now and you would think they "suck". I don't care if Manning was in there, you guys would be calling for his head and blaming whoever it was that brought him here, calling them loser, etc. When the QB cannot get into a three step drop before the defense is on him, its not his fault. When Fred Weary (#70) is getting run over like a train hit him and literally flying backwards, its not the QB's fault. When Winston cant even find his man as he is running around him to the QB, its not the QB's fault. When the QB has the pocket collapse on him in under 3 seconds, and it collapses around him with no option for lateral movement, its not his fault. When the pocket collapses on him in 3-4 seconds and NOBODY picks it up and comes back for the dump and there is no option in the play calling for an outlet, its not the QB's fault. That QB Carr got rattled early, but nobody could have played in that offense as a QB that day. Not without a RB or some protection. He made errors just like the rest of the team. The rest of the team should share blame though in that -5 passing yards, along with him. Or is just too easy for your intellects to blame one person than realize we have a bigger problem??? Carr does cause some of the sacks by holding onto the ball. He causes some of the batted passes and int's by staring down receivers. He doesn't inspire the O-line to protect him that well. But please oh please cease this boundless, groundless banter that HE is "THE" problem with our team, and our offense. That is just plain asinine. Absolutely ridiculous. Let me ask you another question. When an offense makes a fumble, because the defense forced it....was it a poor offense or great defense that caused the fumble?? If you are a newspaper editor or a MB junkie, its the offense that screwed up and they are horrible. Thats easier and more glamorous. Actually, to players its the defense that forced it, and they should get credit as a good play. The Raiders didnt drop any balls while they were running down the field. The Texans FORCED the fumbles by their tackling and going after the ball. Oh please oh please, dont you dare bring up Romo. Dallas and Houston are different animals. Dallas HAS an offensive line. Romo can go into a 5 step drop if he wants to. When the pocket collapses its not like the Houston pocket collapse where it implodes, he still can run out of it laterally. He still has movement. Dallas was a 9-7 team last year with a crappy QB? And before that they were still pretty good with that guy now playing in the Canadian league. They had a team before Romo, he is just surfing the wave that was already there and pulling off some better tricks. We don't have a wave to surf yet here in Houston, thanks to the past blunders in FA and the draft. This must be our American way. Like our political system. Republican OR Democrat, right or wrong, black or white. What about the rest of the ideas, graduation of blame, and other colors?? I REFUSE to believe that everyone in America thinks in a "template" that agrees with everything either the Republicans think or the Democrats think. The two party system is a ludicrous as the idea that in every argument one person is right and the other is wrong. It's just too ingrained and corrupt to be changed. Kinda like your football ideas eh? Can you tell all these posts irritated me???...just a bit?