A Potential Big DT to Bring In Soon

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  1. Clamp

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    Pat Kirwan NFL.com-

    "Up in New England, the switch to the 4-3 defense and the addition of Albert Haynesworth, Andre Carter and Mark Anderson is going to make it tough for Gerard Warren to make the defensive line group, especially when Ron Brace comes off the PUP list."

    Gerard Warren- 6'4'' 330 DT

    I really know nothing about him but he is a 33 so he may be on his last legs. Anyone have any opinion or info in him?
     
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    He's 33 and toast.

    That's all I've got.
     
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    I'm holding out hope that he may have something left based in the fact that he is losing out bc of the numbers game, but i may be ignoring the facts lol.
     
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    He's been pretty consistent throughout his career...even last year.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/gerardwarren/2504771/profile

    He might actually be a decent stop gap. I mean look what we've got right now. He might be a good insurance policy and he does have PLENTY of experience which could come in handy down the road.
     
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    Say, I hear JaMarcus Russell isn't doing anything right now....
     
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    So if I read this correctly Brakos will appear in 3....2.....1.....

     
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    Lol, he'd be a 3 gap NT
     
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    I think we should bring him in. We are all smarter than WP and surely once Warren gets here we can show Wade why he needs a 2 gap nose tackle for a 1 gap defense.

    We play Fantasy Football right? We read all of the scouting reports on ESPN Insider. We even listen to Mike and Mike in the morning. Hell! We just know better.

    All we really need to do is explain to Wade Phillips this is what he really needs right? Who needs 30 plus years of experience turning around bad defenses?:kitten:
     


  9. wildroot

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    In about 2 weeks we'll be able to sign some pretty good players on the cheap off the Waiver Wire if we have the need.
     
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    They used most of their assets solving other issues with the D .... both in the draft and FA , I get the idea that WP saying he can make things work with what he has is much like Kubiak last year when Smith left him with such a young secondary - He said what he had to because he had no other options. Kubiak wasnt going to throw Smith under the bus and say he gave me a bunch of nothing to work with ..... That could have caused problems with both players and the GM ..... Then Allen was brought in off of the streets when the opportunity arose.


    I'd wager that if there is a viable 2 gap DT waived that they will take a long look at him ..... I almost expect someone to be brought in at the position.
     
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    Want a dt that excels against the run, but is wade willing to sacrifice the quickness and pass rushing that Mitchell brings?

    I like Mitch as the starter, but id like to see Cody replaced in the rotation.
     
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    Statistically he stinks.

    (Profootball Focus Stats)
    In 2010 he was ranked #106 out of #155 DT. (hurt most of season)
    In 2009 #152 / 161.
    In 2008 #126 / 164.

    The worst part is that he was in the bottom 4% in run defense. His mediocre pass rush helped bring his ranking up a little.
     
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    relax man we r just fans with opinions the opinions show we give a damn bout the team not saying we know better than wade or ne of the analysts but we have opinions and on a forum titled Texans Talk I would think opinions would be valued here otherwise change it to Texans Lecture or Hereiswhat coachesofthehoustontexanssay.com ... I trust wade on D and Kubes on O but at the same time I have my own opinions on what they are doing.
     
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    ^^from the above:


    -Jamal Williams is probably the most likely candidate, at 6'3" and 348lbs he has the prototypical size for a 2-down run stuffing 3-4 Nose Tackle. While he is on the other side of 35, he should have a couple of years left as his body did not take the wear and tear after suffering a torn triceps. What makes him the most likely option is his familiarity with Wade Phillips who had Williams anchoring his defensive line when he was the defensive coordinator in San Diego. As long as Williams has kept himself in shape since he was released by Denver before the lockout, the Texans should get him in a uniform as soon as possible!

    -Pat Williams has spent his career as the run stuffer of the "Williams Wall" while he was with the Vikings. While he is closer to 40 and has been in Minnesota running a 4-3, he has the ability and the size (6'3" 317lbs) to anchor the Phillips 3-4. Teams have shied away from him in free agency seemingly due to the lingering Star Caps case which threatens to keep him out of the first 4 games of the season. Luckily for the Texans their schedule only has 1 proven "run oriented" team in their first 4 weeks (Steelers), their other 3 opponents, Colts (never much of a running game), Dolphins (Replacing their 2 leading rushers), Saints (have the abillity to be balanced but I won't believe it until I see it), so signing a run stuffing tackle should be a priority.

    -Ma'ake Kemoeatu is the long shot of the group, his career has been derailed since he suffered major shoulder and Achilles injuries, but he has the size (6'5" 350lbs) and has show ability and potential in the past to be a situational run stuffer. The Texans should bring him in after Week 1 when his salary would not be guaranteed to see if he can pass a physical, if he passes give him a shot.
     
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    Right team. Wrong player. Trade for Ron Brace.
     
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    We need more defensive line talent and I think they will add someone once cuts start BUT, we've had plenty of chances to get bigger nose tackles already and they havent done it. I dont think they're going to. Everyone holding out hope for a Shaun Rodgers type 350 lb nose tackle is dreaming.
     
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    I'm 6'5" and around 315 right now, but my frame will hold another 20-25lbs. :)

    Pay me, Rick!
     
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    This morning I heard Richard Justice say Mario should gain 70lbs and play nose. Problem is he was serious.
     
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    That should be no problem for Mario. I can start him on my diet and exercise regimen, and put 70lbs of beer muscle on him in no time at all.
     
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