A decent mock.. and a crappy one

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  1. Maddict5

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    I was just about to post something like this. Here are a couple of others..both have the texans taking Jonathan Stewart and the Cowboys using one pick on Felix Jones.

    http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2008/mockdraft.shtml

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2008.php


    This is also pretty cool. A Redskin sight with all mock drafts they can find..so you can hit what you want

    http://hailredskins.com/MockDraft.htm
     
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    I could do better so could many of us who post here.
     
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    Which one ?

    So , Which Cb and OL are you two projecting for the second day. Inquiring minds wish to know ?

    I'll believe that the raiders pass on Chris Long when Pigs fly.

    Atlanta will take McFaddin if Dallas doesn't move up.
     
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    don't see much of a difference between the two mocks.

    NO one has Chris Long going to Miami. yet it makes 100% sense right now.
     
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    I'd be just fine with Stewart @ 18. or Tackles Oher, Vanderbilt, Collins or Baker (injuries?)
    3rd: LT Oneil Cousins or Tony Hill or RB James Davis 5'11"208 4.48 And J Charles may fall this far but probably not.
     
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    I dont see Charles falling through the 2nd round after the combine workout he is gonna put out.

    Expect faster than 4.30 in the 40.
     
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    I've heard this more and more since Parcells took over. Motor guy.
     
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    I'm no draft expert but the draftdog one had guys I had never heard of.

    I am not keen for a RB in the first still.
     
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    "The Texans still have trouble protecting the quarterback and really need to upgrade their poor offensive line"

    I find the fact that we had the 6th lowest sack total means nothing. If they said that we needed help with the aging LT, depth, or help with running the ball I could agree. But do people just see Texans and still think "they need pass protection?"
     
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    I understand your frustration and will agree that the national media really don't know enough about our team to give educated insight.

    However, as much as they don't know...they're unintentionally still speaking the truth. While our sacks have gone down...which is obvious really good...I give the majority of this credit to the QB's. They get rid of the ball instead of taking the sack. I don't want to discredit the OL by anymeans because they have been a lot better than in the past.

    However, LT needs to be upgraded with younger and better talent. Center needs to be upgraded with younger and better talent. I will say Pitts is pretty solid. Weary is solid too but injured and who has any idea about his return. Winston has RT locked down. So overall our OL still looks ugly and can be upgraded at 3 positions.

    I think they don't get enough push in short yardage/goal line rushing situations. I also think they allow too much pressure to get to our QB. I would say close to all the fumbles caused are a directly related to the DE getting around the corner and knocking it out during the throwing motion. While sacks have gone down...I would guess that QB hurries have not changed at all. QB hurries are just as important when figuring OL/DL play b/c that's what really causes Interceptions/turnovers.
     
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    You are saying what I wanted to say. Pretty much, I think the QB play has improved quite dramatically, while the line play only improved a little (And actually regressed a tiny bit in the run blocking department).

    For me to think that the O-line play has improved, I'm going to want to see the QB Hurries, and the QB Injuries down just a bit. I know we were like 7th in the league in sacks given up, but don't think for a minute that Salaam did not routinely get beaten by plenty of DE's this year is only kidding oneself.

    Honestly, I don't see how anybody could think that our O-line play improved so much that we shouldn't worry about it at all. I think it's a top priority, especially with the Weary, White, and McKinney injuries.

    I do like all of the centers that we have picked up recently, and I hope that the competition means we will get a better quality center starting next year.

    After looking through most of the drafts, it seems the experts have us pegged for picking either Stewart or Mendenhall (More Stewart than Mendenhall though), or maybe an OT. The mock that has us picking up Godser from Boston College is just flat out wrong. Godser is pretty much a RT no matter how you slice it, and I do not think that will be what we get in the 1st round.

    Honestly, I think the drafts that have us taking some defensive player are going to be the ones that are more correct for us. I also think that BPA and all that will play a factor.
     
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    Closest I can find quickly...

    2007 Outsider's Line Stats:
    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol.php
    We were 10th in run blocking and 9th in pass protection.

    2006 Outsider's Line Stats:
    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2006.php
    We were 21st in run blocking and 27th in pass protection.

    2005 Outsider's Line Stats: (Interestinger and interestinger)
    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2005.php
    We were 8th in run blocking and dead last in pass protection.

    I'd like to see hurries included in the pass protection stats.

    Personally, I agree that the improvement in pass protection is about the QB's and we needed better run blocking.
     
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    Get ready to be amazed then.
     
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    Unless the extra 10 pounds he put on has reduced his speed then he is gonna be pretty fast.
     
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    I dont see us taking Stewart over Mendenhall.
     
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    at least one will be off the board by Texans pick, no need to worry about that. I would love to hear (post draft) what the Texans board looked like? how did they rate each position & who they projected to be available when they selected? :cool:
     
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    if we dont trade down, I would not complain about Stewart at 18.
     

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