#8 As our QB....

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  1. Leahmic223

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    Hey I am bored and I noticed a few quotes that could be taken as subliminal shots at YKW...

    Andre Johnson
    Steve McKinny
    Ephraim Saalam
    Wow, it seems like when YKW was around, one sack would lead to the whole team breaking down because guys would start to panic...I wonder why guys are not like that now...

    I say this because some guys were led to believe that NO MATTER who you have behind a bad Oline, it makes no difference. I have even been hearing "You can put Peyton Manning behind that line and find the same results." No...that is why Peyton Manning is Peyton Manning and that is why David Carr is Carr.

    Also funny how Andre said "If Matt was in a panic we'd have to try to calm him down, and you don't want to be in that situation." heh almost as if he's been in that situation.

    Now...ESPN's first Take is going to have Schaub on sometimes today...a Texan actually on a ESPN show...things are a changing even if its just one game.
     
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    Only idiots or family of Carr did not see that the last five years. Moreover, when that half a QB had the backing of the Owner, GM and Coach it perpetuated that sense of "aww $%^!, here we go again."

    Even when Schaub got sacked and threw that interception I felt no panic in the stands, on the field or on the sidelines. QB's in this league will get intercepted and get sacked. How they recover is what separates good teams from bad teams in my opinion.

    I would love to see that half a QB on the field next week. I spent over 15k dollars having to watch that piece of excrement ruin this team over the last five years.
     
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  3. Double Barrel

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    Salaam said in an interview last night that a QB that gets rid of the ball as quick as Schaub does MAKES THE LINE BETTER.

    hmmm...where have I heard that before? :whistle:

    10+ minute drive - Team record in 6 seasons

    Longest pass of AJ's career and a career high for him, too.

    Three guys on our line from the 2002 team....hmmmm....I think a picture is starting to form here, but I just can't put my finger on it....

    oh wait, I know: we finally have a good QB around here! :fans: :wild: :texflag:
     
  4. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    move this if needed, but based on title alone:

    Schaub better be locked in the film room today:

    The interception - why force the throw, trying to FORCE a TD? Get a first down.

    Wide open WR's. I noticed Walter downfield wide open twice (once in the endzone) and Jones downfield once. I am sure there were more. PLEASE make him read more rather than checking down. 5 years of that was enough.

    I like Schaub, he played well, but we have got to convert in the red zone!
     
  5. Leahmic223

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    Thing is, Schaub actually eliminated 2 sacks (I saw two plays, one where he stepped up which basically gave him a extra second to throw the ball, and another where he stepped up again...this is pocket presence of course. Something Carr never learned.)

    I am not too satisfied with giving up 2 sacks still, but it shows you that a QB with pocket presence does help out the Oline. Now only if we could get Spencer back.

    Also Schaub will be on ESPN2 pretty soon...
     
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    My thoughts exactly, I was yelling for him to run, as from my view, it looked as if he could have ran for at least 5 yards before there would have been contact with anyone..Then when he forced it up and it was picked, well ... My guess is now that it was a learning experience and he won't be doing that again...
     
  7. Leahmic223

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    I am sure Kubiak isn't going to ignore that. It was his first start, I think he got excited and thought "I'd throw this one up there and let Andre go get it."

    Its good he made some mistakes truthfully. I mean you never really learn something unless you learn it the hard way. So he'll make his mistakes...who knows though, throw that a bit higher and maybe Andre comes down with it.

    At the same time is TD/INT ratio is 7/7 now I think. But he can only get better.
     
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    IMO, I don't think he forced the throw to Dre. I just think it was underthrown. If he'd had a little more air under the ball AJ would've had the advantage over the defender. A right handed QB rolling out to his left has to put extra umph into the throw in order to get it where he wants it.

    It's a learning experience for Schaub. In the past it would've been run out of bounds for a sack or thrown past the line of scrimmage.:texflag:
     


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    Even the best QBs throw INTs and leave open men on the field. None of these guys are perfect.

    I think his INT was the result of miscommunication between Schaub and AJ. It looked like he expected AJ to turn in, and AJ though he was going to put it in the back of the endzone. With more experience with each other, their timing will improve and that will be a TD in the future.

    Schaub gave AJ a career day in just his first start. I'd cut him a little slack after such a great win. He will improve.
     
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    no kidding...I thought I saw a guy who is capable of making the pro bowl...the offense is still feeling each other out and struggled at moments but I thought that after Schaub got comfortable he really made great decisions and controlled the tempo of the game. One thing Carr never did well (well one more thing) is that he didn't sell his play fakes all that well. Schaub did a great job setting up that bomb. Carr seemed to think that big plays just happen out of thin air since he didn't really understand defenses nor was he good at selling the play fake.
     
  11. Noblesse Oblige

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    I thought so too--he had some open field ahead of him--tucking and running shouldn't be the first option, but it is always there.
     
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    A question for the both of you.

    Why is Schaub not allowed to make a mistake? Manning makes mistakes, Brady makes mistakes. All quarterbacks make mistakes. Why is he not allowed to make one?

    Newsflash: Schaub is going to continue to make mistakes, along with making big plays.
     
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    LOL. Schaub is allowed to make mistakes. Everybody is.

    But he better get in the film room this week & learn something from it.

    I'm pretty sure that's what his point was.
     
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    Man, I never get tired of Newsflashes... no matter how often a I see them...
     
  15. real

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    Maybe some people just approach the game differntly.

    I know the question wasn't directed towards me, but throwing picks in the red zone is a big no-no under any circumstance. It didn't cost us, and Schaub didn't let it affect his game. I didn't think it would. When he threw it, I was just like ehhhh....we'll get it back...

    But nevertheless, it was not something that you just shrug your shoulders at and say "oh well, everyone does that"....Yes he'll continue to make mistakes, but that was a bad one...I know he won't continue to do that...
     
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    Schaub had a very good game and seems poised to get better. I like the fact that he doesnt panic and start scrambling when he is rushed. It's not about how fast you can get out of the pocket, its how well you can move WITHIN the pocket. I like how when he is flushed out of the pocket he doesnt do the Fresno Tuck and run like a little girl. He uses his footwork and keeps his eyes downfield.

    As for the pick in the end zone, AJ is almost as much to blame on that one as Schaub. Schaub had single coverage and went for the jump ball. AJ slipped and lost sight of it and the KC player made the play. Also remember that AJ fumbled on a promising drive or Schaub's numbers would have been better. AJ had a career day but still could have been better, just like Schaub. Lets all be happy with what we saw because we saw better QB in Schaub's 1st game than we did in 5 years of the loser YKW's play.

    Pile of dog crap >>> Carr
     
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    If the ball was a foot or two higher, this would likely not be an issue today.:texflag:
     
  18. real

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    Football is a game of inches.

    Almost doesn't count.

    Ask the Tennessee Titans.
     
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    Just noticed Matt was on the Banner....Good...
     
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    Agreed. I keep hearing Kubiak say in these pressers, "It's how we respond". Matt just seems to have already prepared himself mentally for mistakes and successes before they happen and is therefore better suited to handle them.
     

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