3-4 compared to 4-3

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  1. srrono

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    BASE DEFENSES
    4-3: CIN, HOU, TEN, NYG, OAK, PHI, SEA, ATL, DET, TB, NO, STL, JAX
    4-3/Tampa-2: IND, MIN, CHI, CAR
    3-4: CLE, NE, SD, PIT, DAL, MIA, GB, SF, ARI, KC, DEN,BAL, NYJ, BUF,WAS




    New York Jets W 17-16
    Indianapolis

    Baltimore W 30-7
    Kansas City

    New Orleans
    Seattle W 41-36

    Green Bay W 21-16
    Philadelphia

    Baltimore
    Pittsburgh W 31-24

    New York Jets W 28-21
    New England

    Green Bay W 48-21
    Atlanta

    Seattle
    Chicago W 35-24

    New York Jets
    Pittsburgh W 24-19

    Green Bay W 21-14
    Chicago

    Super Bowl
    Pittsburgh
    Green Bay W 31-25



    ONLY 16 TEAMS REG SEASON RECORD 8-8 and ABOVE

    3-4 (7 TOTAL)
    NE 14-2
    PIT 12-4
    BAL 12-4
    NYJ 11-5
    KC 10-6
    GB 10-6
    SD 9-7

    4-3 (7 TOTAL)
    ATL 13-3
    NO 11-5
    NYG 10-6
    PHI 10-6
    TB 10-6
    OAK 8-8
    JAG 8-8

    4-3 T2 (2 TOTAL)
    CHI 11-5
    IND 10-6

    TOP 12 DEFENSES IN POINTS AGAINST
    7 3-4
    4 4-3
    1 4-3 T2


    PIT 14.5 3-4
    GB 15 3-4
    BAL 16.9 3-4
    CHI 17.9 4-3 T2
    ATL 18 4-3
    NYJ 19 3-4
    NO 19.2 4-3
    NE 19.6 3-4
    TB 19.9 4-3
    SD 20.1 3-4
    KC 20.4 3-4
    STL 20.5 4-3


    3-4 SACKS 35.6 INTS 16.5
    4-3 SACKS 36 INTS 15
    4-3 T2 SACKS 31.5 INTS 15-75


    SACKS
    3-4
    pit 48
    gb 47
    cle 29
    sd 47
    ne 36
    dal 35
    mia 39
    sf 36
    arz 33
    den 23
    kc 38
    buf 27
    nyj 40
    was 29
    bal 27
    total 534
    avg 35.6


    4-3
    hou 30
    cin 27
    ten 40
    nyg 46
    oak 47
    phi 39
    sea 37
    atl 31
    det 44
    tb 26
    stl 43
    no 33
    jag 26
    total 469
    avg 36


    4-3 T 2
    ind 30
    min 31
    chi 34
    car 31
    total 126
    avg 31.5


    INTs
    3-4
    pit 21
    gb 24
    cle 19
    sd 16
    ne 25
    dal 20
    mia 11
    sf 15
    arz 17
    den 10
    kc 14
    buf 11
    nyj 12
    was 14
    bal 19
    total 248
    avg 16.5


    4-3
    hou 13
    cin 16
    ten 17
    nyg 16
    oak 12
    phi 23
    sea 12
    atl 22
    det 14
    tb 19
    STL 14
    no 9
    jag 13
    total 200
    avg 15


    4-3 cover 2
    ind 10
    min 15
    chi 21
    car 17
    total 63
    avg 15.75
     
  2. dream_team

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    How did you classify a team as a 'cover 2' team? Houston ran alot of cover 2, which I think is a big reason our pass coverage sucks. Our safeties are a terrible match for cover 2.
     
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    Technically, the Tampa-2 is a Cover-3. The middle linebacker is responsible for the deep middle and the safeties have the deep sides. So that's Cover-3.

    But, yeah, most teams run a tampa-2 coverage from time to time. The Texans ran it quite a bit and you can even run it out of a 3-4 with one of the ILBs taking that deep middle. Our safeties and MLBs just didn't have the range to really run it well and you've got to be able to get good pressure with 4 linemen to really run the tampa-2 the way it was originally designed... and we didn't get that, either.

    Even the teams that are traditionally tampa-2 because of their coaches are running more and more other looks now. Indy is much less of a tampa-2 team than it used to be.
     
  5. thunderkyss

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    Found this in another thread. Figured we can use it in a 3-4/4-3 discussion.
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    From this & what we've heard about Wade's 3-4, we can see there won't be much difference between what Mario is going to be expected to do. Playing RDE in this formation, the NT is shaded to the strong side (which is the right side of the offense). SAM is on Mario's sholder.

    The biggest difference, is that the LDE won't have a DT on his left shoulder. Instead, there would be no one there. In most cases, the weakside LB will be on the LDE's right shoulder, not the FS who will be able to play further off the line.

    With such a formation, the one on one situation with the DL will be created by rushing LBs, the two ILBs can attack the guards on the inside, or the WiLL can attack the outside (LT) leaving the LDE one on one with a guard.

    You would think this would allow the DEs to get more sacks, working in one-on-one situations. But historically, DEs in 3-4s don't get the numbers DEs in 4-3s do.
     

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