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  1. TheKDog

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    Back to defending the offense already? Or just bill OBrien who is starting kalil?
     
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    Yep, I have that noted on drive #8

    Don't necessarily disagree but even though they turned it over on downs, the Eagles started inside their 25 and punted.

    Again, don't necessarily disagree that statistically the Eagles were well above the mean for 3rd/4th down conversions.

    We don't live in a binary world. My intent was to use one of your hand-picked examples and show that the offense and special teams didn't let down the defense. Not to say that the defense was at fault for anything. Because you said the offense and special teams were at fault for giving up a lot of points.

    We can point to a fumble at the 44 that resulted in a TD. We can point to an 83-yard TD pass given up by the defense. Both sides made mistakes. Singularly as units neither were wholly and completely to blame.
     
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    How did you get that from his comment?
     
  4. TheKDog

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    Because he switches from complaining about the ol to defending OBrien.

    Can't do both, gotta choose one
     
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    I can definitely agree that OB doesn't have his teams well prepared in the playoffs.
     
  6. steelbtexan

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    I'm not defending BOB and certainly hated the Kalil signing.
     
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    His comment had nothing about either the OL or OB
     
  8. TheKDog

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    Fair enough. My point is people sometimes list games where "the defense gave up 30 points" but when you actually look at the games it's obviously not that simple.

    And I agree the secondary was pretty bad towards the end of last year. They're still trying to fix it.
     
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    Hello? Any news out of today’s training camp? Y'all should REALLY take this “numbers” b1tch fest to the Texans random thought thread.

    Fact to the matter is we still suck under O’Brien. I wonder how much we’re sucking against the Lions in joint practice since this thread is supposed to keep us posted on that subject?
     
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    Tweet from @PatDStat: Loaded up today. #Texans O up and down. Defense has strong day. Quick hitters, Matt Kalil on his health + Whitney Mercilus back where he is best, on the edge. https://twitter.com/SOTTexans/status/1161737050393067521
     
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  11. Mangler

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    Thank you kind sir...
     
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    Bro, that's all you do. switch between complaining about him as a HC & indirectly giving him praise with the defense. See, like it or not, he's responsible for the performance of both the offense & defense falls under him as HEAD COACH...not Crennel. So you choose.
     
  13. TheKDog

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    Sounds like more of the same. Defense solid, offense looks ok at times then like a mess.
     
  14. TheKDog

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    I give him credit for bringing in Crennel and getting out of his way. Now if he could do that with an OC...
     
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    That's what we've been trying to tell YOU for the past 6789 pages of various threads. It ain't that simple like you try to use you're contrived stats to point out. Statistically, the defense might be ranked higher than the offense in your precious DVOA, but realistically, noone fears our defense LOL & the numbers they've racked is mostly fluff. & obviously, when you dig deeper like look at the qb's they've faced, you can clearly see that its fools gold.
     
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    Damn. O’Brien truly hasn’t learned jack sh1t. You’d think he would scratch that useless WR screen, yet he’s still calling that play on 3rd and long, EVEN in training camp! Butt Chin truly is in mid season form alright, smh. Good to know the defense is looking good, not that it’s a surprise as they actually have a competent coach in Crennel.
     
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    I think you have it backwards
     
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    C’mon. Man. You seem like a guy that’s held a real job before. In the corporate world we all have had signature authority at some level in a budget. The bigger the budget cut, the higher the authority sets. Clowney’s contract sits in Cal’s Lap and nobody else’s. You know Cal has told his GM team to dismiss any questions regarding anything Clowney. It’s why NOTHING but speculation and rumors abound. It’s just OB’s way of saying “next question”. No matter how he says it someone will be butt hurt. But Cal no doubt is steering this ship.
     
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    O'Brien knows coachspeak (it's not my job, matt Kalil is awesome) but he is still learning GMspeak
     
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