2010 Small School Prospects

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  1. rmartin65

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    Alright, I know I said I was not going to do one of these this year. But, while thumbing through my rankings, I decided to just post the small school rankings. Right now, I just have them in top 10 format. If people would like, I could go through and assign where I think they should be drafted, or highlight specific players that I think the Texans should look at.

    These rankings come from hours upon hours of watching film.

    Have at it.

    QB
    1) John Skelton, Fordham, 6’5” 243 lbs
    2) Noah Shepard, South Dakota, 6’2” 223 lbs
    3) Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State, 6’2” 226 lbs
    4) Trevor Harris, Edinboro, 6’2” 225 lbs
    5) Adam Shaffer, Mississippi College, 6’1” 223 lbs
    6) Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington, 6’2” 219 lbs
    7) Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, 5’11” 187 lbs
    8) Brian Babin, Southeastern Louisiana, 6’5” 243 lbs
    9) Kurt Rocco, Mount Union, 6’5” 220 lbs
    10) Luke Butler, Augustana, 6’5” 220 lbs

    RB
    1) Joique Bell, Wayne State, 5’11’ 220 lbs
    2) Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, 5’9” 209 lbs
    3) LaMarcus Coker, Hampton, 5’10” 210 lbs
    4) Alex Henderson, Northern Arizona, 5’10” 205 lbs
    5) Pat Paschall, North Dakota State, 6’ 209 lbs
    6) Buck Wakefield, Carson Newman, 5’8” 190 lbs
    7) Keithon Flemming, West Texas A&M, 5’10” 207 lbs
    8) William Ford, South Carolina State, 5’9” 188 lbs
    9) Trevyn Smith, Weber State, 5’9” 210 lbs
    10) DeRon Brown, MIT, 5’8” 185 lbs

    FB/HB
    1) Clay Harbor, Missouri State, 6’3” 252 lbs
    2) Bobby McClintock, Portland State, 5’10” 235 lbs
    3) Jim Bower, Maine Maritime, 5’9” 225 lbs
    4) Dre Gibbs, Western Illinois, 5’10” 225 lbs
    5) Mike Brusko, Maine, 6’3” 225 lbs
    6) Isaac Stockton, Chadron State, 6’2” 238 lbs
    7) Tommy Fraser, Coastal Carolina, 5’9” 235 lbs
    8) Ben Stallings, Lambuth, 5’10” 246 lbs
    9) Jordan Paula, South Dakota State, 6’3” 244 lbs
    10) Chris Zardas, Massachusetts, 6’ 236 lbs

    WR
    1) Andre Roberts, Citadel, 5’11” 195 lbs
    2) Terrell Hudgins, Elon, 6’2” 229 lbs
    3) Chris Bell, Norfolk State, 6’2” 211 lbs
    4) Chris Carter, UC Davis, 6’ 191 lbs
    5) Kelton Tindal, Newberry, 6’2” 197 lbs
    6) Donald Jones, Youngstown State, 6’1” 214 lbs
    7) Pat Simonds, Colgate, 6’5” 221 lbs
    8) Harry von Kann, Kenyon College, 6’4” 228 lbs
    9) AJ Jackson, California (PA), 6’5” 230 lbs
    10) Marc Mariani, Montana, 6’1” 189 lbs

    TE
    1) Nathan Overbay, Eastern Washington, 6’5” 259 lbs
    2) Scott Sicko, New Hampshire, 6’4” 251 lbs
    3) Dan Beaudin, Montana, 6’4” 252 lbs
    4) Jonathan Hannah, Texas Southern, 6’4” 266 lbs
    5) Mike Caussin, James Madison, 6’5” 245 lbs
    6) Sean Bunevich, Duquesne, 6’4” 230 lbs
    7) Rob Varno, William & Mary, 6’4” 224 lbs
    8) Matt Foradora, Clarion, 6’4” 250 lbs
    9) Sam Scroggins, West Virginia State, 6’5” 242 lbs
    10) Steven Pfahler, Montana, 6’4” 250 lbs

    OT
    1) Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale, 6’8” 312 lbs
    2) Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky, 6’5” 304 lbs
    3) Casey Knips, South Dakota State, 6’8” 306 lbs
    4) Tony Washington, Abilene Christian, 6’6” 311 lbs
    5) J’Marcus Webb, West Texas A&M, 6’7” 335 lbs
    6) Tyler Eastman, Maine, 6’5” 323 lbs
    7) Levi Horn, Montana, 6’7” 327 lbs
    8) Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham, 6’4” 317 lbs
    9) RJ Brisbon, Texas A&M Commerce, 6’5” 298 lbs
    10) Lane Friewald, Central Arkansas, 6’7” 327 lbs

    OG
    1) Vladimir Ducasse, Massachusetts, 6’5” 332 lbs
    2) Ramon Harewood, Morehouse, 6’6” 353 lbs
    3) Robert Okeafer, Florida A&M, 6’2” 339 lbs
    4) Casey Bender, South Dakota State, 6’6” 295 lbs
    5) Terrence Crosby, Catawba, 6’1” 317 lbs
    6) Dorian Brooks, James Madison, 6’2” 306 lbs
    7) Drew Gardner, Ouchita, 6’6” 315 lbs
    8) Mario Acitelli, Appalachian State, 6’2” 278 lbs
    9) Andy Schoonover, Minnesota State, 6’3” 302 lbs
    10) Todd Shelton, Missouri Western State, 6’4” 285 lbs

    OC
    1) Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, 6’3” 300 lbs
    2) Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, 6’2” 305 lbs
    3) Ben Staggs, West Liberty State, 6’3” 278 lbs
    4) Tommy Hernandez, UC Davis, 6’2” 280 lbs
    5) Jon Weber, Samford, 6’2” 300 lbs
    6) Nathan Martin, Missouri Western State, 6’2” 280 lbs
    7) Donny Smith, James Madison, 6’1” 295 lbs
    8) Tom Drury, Indianapolis, 6’3” 275 lbs
    9) Steve Brazzle, Florida A&M, 6’3” 332 lbs
    10) Alex Spisak, Harvard, 6’3” 280 lbs

    DE
    1) Austen Lane, Murray State, 6’6” 276 lbs
    2) James Ruffin, Northern Iowa, 6’4” 264 lbs
    3) Kevin Linehan, Weber State, 6’3” 245 lbs
    4) Marcus Crump, St. Augustine, 6’6” 240 lbs
    5) Brandon Gilbeaux, Delaware, 6’3” 265 lbs
    6) Antwon Murchison, Mars Hill, 6’4” 272 lbs
    7) Andre Bernardi, North Greenville, 6’2” 260 lbs
    8) Brandon Gordon, California (PA), 6’3” 290 lbs
    9) Jacob Bloomhuff, Washington & Jefferson, 6’3” 245 lbs
    10) Mykol Gardiner, Duquesne, 6’3” 255 lbs

    DT
    1) David Howard, Brown, 6’3” 293 lbs
    2) Ko Quaye, South Dakota State, 6’1” 307 lbs
    3) Tommy Duhart, Valdosta State, 6’3” 329 lbs
    4) Darryl Jackson, Kean, 6’1” 306 lbs
    5) Sean Lissemore, William & Mary, 6’3” 297 lbs
    6) Mychal Savage, Youngstown State, 6’2” 305 lbs
    7) Mike Ward, Wesley, 6’2” 327 lbs
    8) Cameron Houston, Florida A&M, 5’11” 313 lbs
    9) Kyle Washington, Massachusetts, 6’4” 291 lbs
    10) Todd Irving, Elizabeth City State, 6’5” 320

    OLB
    1) Danny Batten, South Dakota State, 6’3” 246 lbs
    2) Arthur Moats, James Madison, 6’ 246 lbs
    3) Larry Hart, Central Arkansas, 6’ 246 lbs
    4) Josh Beard, Chattanooga, 6’1” 250 lbs
    5) Tom Knicky, Stephen F. Austin, 6’4” 247 lbs
    6) Adrian Tracy, William &Mary, 6’3” 248 lbs
    7) Freddie Harris, Central Oklahoma, 6’2” 227 lbs
    8) Sam Scott, West Chester, 6’4” 221 lbs
    9) Ryan Shotwell, Cal Poly, 6’3” 248 lbs
    10) Ryan Routh, South Dakota, 6’1” 212 lbs

    ILB
    1) Prince Hall, Central Washington, 5’11” 246 lbs
    2) Terrance Gaston, Northeastern State, 6’3” 230 lbs
    3) Jake Lewko, Penn, 6’1” 237 lbs
    4) Oscar Villa, Adams State, 6’1” 225 lbs
    5) Mike Johnson, North Alabama, 6’2” 248 lbs
    6) Jacque Roman, Appalachian State, 5’11” 230 lbs
    7) Wes McDermott, Morehead State, 5’9” 236 lbs
    8) Mike Morales, UC Davis, 232 lbs
    9) Hakeem Yakubu, Olivet, 6’ 240 lbs
    10) Andrew Yezzi, Rowan, 6’1” 230 lbs

    CB
    1) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, California (PA), 6’ 207 lbs
    2) Kelvin Rodgers, Minnesota State, 6’ 178 lbs
    3) Patrick Stoudamire, Western Illinois, 5’10” 207 lbs
    4) Chris Richards, Stony Brook, 5’11” 181 lbs
    5) LeRoy Vann, Florida A&M, 5’9” 177 lbs
    6) Jeff Lemon, Southwestern Oklahoma State, 6’ 190 lbs
    7) Scotty McGee, James Madison, 5’8” 190 lbs
    8) Terrence Johnson, California (PA), 5’10” 190 lbs
    9) Courtney Smith, Central Washington, 5’10” 195 lbs
    10) Cortez Gilbert, Appalachian State, 5’11” 178 lbs

    FS
    1) Shann Schillinger, Montana, 6’ 199 lbs
    2) Jeromy Miles, Massachusetts, 6’2” 210 lbs
    3) Ross Ventrone, Villanova, 5’9” 198 lbs
    4) Josh Jones, Harding, 5’10” 185 lbs
    5) Charles Graves, Delaware, 6’ 195 lbs
    6) Terrell Whitehead, Norfolk State, 6’1” 181 lbs
    7) Derek Hatcher, Richmond, 5’9” 195 lbs
    8) Dontrell Miller, Tennessee Martin, 5’8” 176 lbs
    9) Tramine Brock, Belhaven, 5’10” 195 lbs
    10) Dominique Dixon, Montclair State, 6’ 195 lbs

    SS
    1) Quentin Scott, Northern Iowa, 6’4” 222 lbs
    2) Quinton Andrews, North Alabama, 5’11” 215 lbs
    3) Donye McCleskey, Indiana State, 5’11” 215 lbs
    4) Rafael Bush, South Carolina State, 5’10” 198 lbs
    5) Tylan Merkeson, Wingate, 6’4” 225 lbs
    6) Chad Washington, Texas A&M Commerce, 5’10” 205 lbs
    7) Marvin Taylor, Pace, 5’11” 205 lbs
    8) Robert Watts, Delta State, 6’2” 220 lbs
    9) Major Culbert, Abilene Christian, 5’11” 210 lbs
    10) Beau Hadley, Weber State, 6’ 195 lbs

    I would also be able to provide stats for most of the players listed.
     
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  2. JB

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    Great info bud! Appreciate the effort you put into this. I recognize some of these names, but most are new to me. It will be interesting to see how many are drafted and where.

    Could you highlight the players you think the Texans might have an interest in, and maybe a little info?
     
  3. pokaholic777

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    Ryan Periloux was impressive in the limited snaps I saw from him at lsu. havent seen him since but I would take a look at him if I were an nfl team even though he is a headcase.

    wasnt Jmarcus Webb a big time prospect coming out of highschool? I had no idea he was at WT.
     
  4. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Thanks! Do you want the players I would target if I were the Texans GM, or the players I think the Texans will target?
     
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    I dont really want to type in all the info about all these guys. But I would be more than happy to tell everyone what I have, if they let me know specific players they are interested in.

    Players the Texans May be Interested in:
    #2 QB Noah Shepard, South Dakota, 6’2” 223 lbs
    #8 QB Brian Babin, Southeastern Louisiana, 6’5” 243 lbs
    #1 RB Joique Bell, Wayne State, 5’11’ 220 lbs
    #2 RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, 5’9” 209 lbs
    #7 WR Pat Simonds, Colgate, 6’5” 221 lbs
    #2 OT Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky, 6’5” 304 lbs
    #8 OT Andrew Tyshovnytsky, Fordham, 6’4” 317 lbs
    #6 OG Dorian Brooks, James Madison, 6’2” 306 lbs
    #2 OC Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, 6’2” 305 lbs
    #1 DT David Howard, Brown, 6’3” 293 lbs
    #4 DT Darryl Jackson, Kean, 6’1” 306 lbs
    #1 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, California (PA), 6’ 207 lbs
    #2 CB Kelvin Rodgers, Minnesota State, 6’ 178 lbs


    Players the Texans Should Look At:
    #2 QB Noah Shepard, South Dakota, 6’2” 223 lbs
    #5 QB Adam Shaffer, Mississippi College, 6’1” 223 lbs
    #8 QB Brian Babin, Southeastern Louisiana, 6’5” 243 lbs
    #1 RB Joique Bell, Wayne State, 5’11’ 220 lbs
    #2 RB Deji Karim, Southern Illinois, 5’9” 209 lbs
    #5 FB/HB Mike Brusko, Maine, 6’3” 225 lbs
    #2 WR Terrell Hudgins, Elon, 6’2” 229 lbs
    #7 WR Pat Simonds, Colgate, 6’5” 221 lbs
    #8 WR Harry von Kann, Kenyon College, 6’4” 228 lbs
    #1 OT Jared Veldheer, Hillsdale, 6’8” 312 lbs
    #4 OT Tony Washington, Abilene Christian, 6’6” 311 lbs
    #1 OC Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, 6’3” 300 lbs
    #2 OC Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, 6’2” 305 lbs
    #1 DT David Howard, Brown, 6’3” 293 lbs
    #2 DT Ko Quaye, South Dakota State, 6’1” 307 lbs
    #4 DT Darryl Jackson, Kean, 6’1” 306 lbs
    #4 OLB Josh Beard, Chattanooga, 6’1” 250 lbs
    #1 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, California (PA), 6’ 207 lbs
    #2 CB Kelvin Rodgers, Minnesota State, 6’ 178 lbs
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    No worries man, thanks for being interested. And again, if there are any specific players you (or anyone on the board) are interested in, I would be more than happy to post my evaluations of them.
     


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    I created a new list for wildcat/mobile QBs that have developmental upside. I doubt the Texans look at any of these guys, but I would bet around 8 of these guys make it into an NFL camp.

    1) Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State, 5’11” 187 lbs
    2) Brandon Summers, Youngstown State, 6’ 200 lbs
    3) Derrick Fourroux, McNeese State, 6’2” 200 lbs
    4) Mike Brusko, Maine, 6’3” 225 lbs
    5) Eric Ward, Richmond, 6’2” 210 lbs
    6) Dan Whalen, Case Western Reserve, 6’1” 192 lbs
    7) Dennis Brown, Norfolk State, 6’3” 200 lbs
    8) Cam Sexton, Catawba, 6’1” 200 lbs
    9) Lorenzo Brown, Sioux Falls, 6’ 200 lbs
    10) Curtis Pulley, Florida A&M, 6’3” 190 lbs

    What separates these QBs from the top 10 list (although Edwards does make a repeat appearance) is that these players are not great passers. Yet. Some lack accuracy, some like arm strength, and some lack great decision making ability. However, they all have some upside. Some may be able to fit a Brad Smith type role (NY Jets), others may eventually grow into a true QB.

    Also, I am considering doing a spotlight on one of these guys, so keep an eye out.
     
  10. CoastalTexan

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    A Texan scout went up to San Marcos to look at Bradley George. He's a tall QB (6,6) with a big arm and quicker than he looks. He's 27... he played minor league baseball. You would have to bet that he would learn the system quick and be a backup. His arm is better than Schaub's but he is not as accurate. He will be an UDFA for sure with his age.


    http://www.txstatebobcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/george_bradley00.html

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=102126

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LU_UvsRsg

    This is him against Montana in the playoffs, it is a Montana video so there is not much focus on George but you can see his arm strength.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojkNEvDGlc&feature=related

    Another video with a couple throws.
     
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  12. wagonhed

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    Can you tell us about these dudes?

    #1 OC Kyle Mutcher, Weber State, 6’3” 300 lbs
    #2 OC Austin Steichen, Northern Iowa, 6’2” 305 lbs

    Will they be drafted? Are they raw or can they play now? Are either of them starter material? Why do you think the Texans will look at Austin Steichen, and do you think it will be for competition for Myers?
     
  13. rmartin65

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    You are more suited to judge Bradley than I, but I don't think he is worthy of a top 10 spot on the QBs, and is not mobile enough to be in the WildCat rankings.

    His age knocks him back, he is about as talented as the last couple guys on the QB list. But a team would rather take a chance on a guy 4-5 years younger with equal skill sets.

    He does have a cannon arm though...
     
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    For one, I highlighted the wrong guy. I think the Texans look at Mutcher, not Steichen.

    Mutcher and Steichen are neck and neck, I had a hard time picking which one I wanted to place first.

    Mutcher is more athletically gifted. He can pull with the best of them. He does need to work on pass protection, he seems hesitant. He only has average strength, but he is a fantastic run blocker. He has great technique, and while he does not bulldoze guys he removes them from play. I think the Texans look at him because of his mobility and run blocking prowess.

    Steichen may have more upside. He is not as mobile, but he is stronger. Better when not asked to get to the second level. He is adept at cut blocking, should his team need it.

    They could both be drafted in the 7th, but I only expect Mutcher to be drafted. Neither of them would contribute immediately, but they could conceivably be ready by 2011, to at least compete. However, they would be decent backups.
     
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    I would say he ranks with the top guys on the FCS level, and with a better or just as good of an arm than any of the top guys on the FBS level this year. The knock is his age of course. If he was 22 or 23 he'd be drafted for sure.

    I believe he ran a 4.8, so at 6,6 225 pound 27 year old white guy thats pretty good. I would say his mobility is above average but it is painful to see such a large (older) target run up field, running the risk of injury.
     
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    I stand by my previous post, and his current place on the small school rankings.

    He has a strong arm, thats for sure. But he does not posses anything more than average accuracy. Also, his throws across the middle come out low, meaning they can be tipped or intercepted. I also see him locking onto receivers a lot.

    If he was younger, I could see him sliding into the last round. Maybe. But he is 4-6 years older than these guys, and teams would rather take a chance on a guy with upside. George will get into a camp, but unless he really impresses, I dont see him on a roster next year.
     
  18. NitroGSXR

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    The Texans were at Armanti Edwards' proday were they not? Or did they invite him in for a looksee? I just remember seeing somewhere that we looked at him.

    Care to elaborate your thoughts on him?
     
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    I believe they went to his pro day, I am not sure about the official visit.

    Armanti Edwards is one of the biggest enigmas in this draft. He has all the athletic ability in the world, but is so small, too small to be a traditional QB. But he is so effective at the position, I hate to classify him as a WR, mostly because I dont know about his hands, and again, he is so small. He would have problems beating the jam, going up for balls, etc.

    He does have underrated arm strength. And he has always had good accuracy. Those two traits make me think that maybe, just maybe, he could become a legit QB. But then I worry about his ability to read a defense. He played in a spread style offense, and rarely (if ever) had to drop back and survey the D. Edwards also looks to run first. If the first guy is not open, he is gone.

    However, Armanti Edwards is a dangerous man with the ball, and he just wins. I know its cliche, but he wins ball games. In the NFL, he should not be pigeon holed into a position. He should play the Wildcat QB, get some snaps out of the slot, even out of the backfield. One thing I would not do is let him return kicks, I dont think he is that kind of player.

    All things considered, I doubt the Texans go after him. In talking with badboy and beerlover about the wildcat, one of them (can't remember which one, my bad guys) brought up that since Kubiak got reamed for the Chris Brown pass, he might be hesitant to go "gimmicky" on offense.

    I hope this helps, I need to fix my first post. I have Edwards as my 7th rated QB, it was before I decided to make a separate list for Wildcat players.
     
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    I posted this in the private workout thread:

    So, Edwards supposedly in Houston as we speak. Welcome to H-town, Armanti! BTW, Edwards did field punts at his pro day.
     

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