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2010 DT prospects

he's as close to a lock as i've ever seen, barring injuries and getting lazy with cash. i have no clue about his work ethic or anything.
 
Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska:
Florida Atlantic - 7 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas St - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
at Virginia Tech - 8 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack, 4 passes batted down
UL Lafayette - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass batted down
at Missouri - 6 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass batted down, 1 forced fumble, 1 INT
Texas Tech - 4 tackles, 2 TFL
Iowa st - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 2 blocked kicks
at Baylor - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack

Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma:
BYU - 5 tackles, 4 TFL
Idaho St - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack
Tulsa - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
at Miami - 1 tackles
Baylor - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 3 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
at Kansas - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Kansas St - 1 tackle, .5 TFL, .5 sack

Arthur Jones, Syracuse:
Minnesota - 5 tackles, 1 TFL
at Penn St - 2 tackles
Northwestern - 2 tackles, 1 TFL
Maine - no stats accumulated
USF - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
West Virginia - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
Akron - 2 tackles
Cincinnati - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL

Terrence Cody, Alabama:
at Virginia Tech - 1 tackle
FIU - 3 tackles, 2.5 TFL
North Texas - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas - 1 tackle
at Kentucky - 2 tackles
at Mississippi - no stats accumulated
South Carolina - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL
Tennessee - 2 tackles, 2 blocked kicks
 
Nebraska beat Oklahoma, Suh blocked a kick, owned again, etc etc, sorta getting tired of saying it again and again
 
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AFter watching the clip, the only question I have is who is #94, they used two guys to block him instead of Suh?
 
Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska:
Florida Atlantic - 7 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas St - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
at Virginia Tech - 8 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack, 4 passes batted down
UL Lafayette - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass batted down
at Missouri - 6 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass batted down, 1 forced fumble, 1 INT
Texas Tech - 4 tackles, 2 TFL
Iowa st - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 2 blocked kicks
at Baylor - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack
Oklahoma - 4 tackles, 1 pass batted down, 1 blocked kick
at Kansas - 3 tackles

Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma:
BYU - 5 tackles, 4 TFL
Idaho St - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack
Tulsa - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
at Miami - 1 tackles
Baylor - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 3 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
at Kansas - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Kansas St - 1 tackle, .5 TFL, .5 sack
at Nebraska - 3 tackles
Texas A&M - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL, .5 sack

Arthur Jones, Syracuse:
Minnesota - 5 tackles, 1 TFL
at Penn St - 2 tackles
Northwestern - 2 tackles, 1 TFL
Maine - no stats accumulated
USF - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
West Virginia - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
Akron - 2 tackles
Cincinnati - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL
at Pittsburgh - no stats accumulated
at Louisville - DNP

Terrence Cody, Alabama:
at Virginia Tech - 1 tackle
FIU - 3 tackles, 2.5 TFL
North Texas - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas - 1 tackle
at Kentucky - 2 tackles
at Mississippi - no stats accumulated
South Carolina - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL
Tennessee - 2 tackles, 2 blocked kicks
LSU - 3 tackles
at Mississippi St - no stats accumulated
 
This threads kinda dead,but why didnt we make a move on Albert Haynesworth in the OF? All of this DT talk,and why didnt Mcnair Just spend the money.
 
Gymrat2005 said:
Hmm,i always overook the Finance's of the NFL,thx.



Suh will be the next warren Sap of the NFL,i dont think there is a single OL in College who can block him.
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I was at the KU game, sitting with some Nebraska fans in front of me. I spent a lot of time watching Suh. He made a few plays when Sharp ran right at him. Otherwise, he wasn't overly impressive. Our freshman RB Opurum consistently ran right over the Nebraska defense. I mean that literally; he put at least 3 defenders on their asses.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I was at the KU game, sitting with some Nebraska fans in front of me. I spent a lot of time watching Suh. He made a few plays when Sharp ran right at him. Otherwise, he wasn't overly impressive. Our freshman RB Opurum consistently ran right over the Nebraska defense. I mean that literally; he put at least 3 defenders on their asses.
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K well,i know this isnt KU,but this is Clemson,who just soo happens to have a RB that is considered a top 15 pick in this years upcoming NFL Draft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLUau5jlNNE

Look at suh at the :41 Mark,that guard he just man handled is a 3 year starter,andlook at the 6:01 mark,Suh is a Disruptive MONSTER,i bet my life that Opurum did NOT run over Suh,suh is on a Defense that is Mediocore,everyone knows that,he fights doubleteams all day Long,and this kid is still productive at the highest level.
 
d-linemen at the college level have off games probably more than any other position. not concerned about it, he's the best prospect in the '10 draft by a mile.
 
bah007 said:
That would be Jared Crick, the man who had 5 sacks against Baylor the week before.
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My thoughts are we will have no shot at Suh as many predict him in top 5. I would like to pick up a DT later rounds and am looking now at Mike Neal of Purdue in 4th. Is Crick someone who is steady or just having a good season playing next to Suh? Where is he projected? I am assuming he is a junior?
 
badboy said:
My thoughts are we will have no shot at Suh as many predict him in top 5. I would like to pick up a DT later rounds and am looking now at Mike Neal of Purdue in 4th. Is Crick someone who is steady or just having a good season playing next to Suh? Where is he projected? I am assuming he is a junior?
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I'm pretty sure Crick is only a sophomore. I would like to see how he does next year without Suh playing next to him before I make a judgment.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
I was at the KU game, sitting with some Nebraska fans in front of me. I spent a lot of time watching Suh. He made a few plays when Sharp ran right at him. Otherwise, he wasn't overly impressive. Our freshman RB Opurum consistently ran right over the Nebraska defense. I mean that literally; he put at least 3 defenders on their asses.
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Well you sure are hard to please if 15 carries for 43 yards is considered "running over" a defense.

Opurum did break some tackles, but he got almost no yards after contact. Every time he went through one guy there were two more waiting for him.
 
bah007 said:
Well you sure are hard to please if 15 carries for 43 yards is considered "running over" a defense.

Opurum did break some tackles, but he got almost no yards after contact. Every time he went through one guy there were two more waiting for him.
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YTF is a Jayhawks fan, so of course he's got to be a homer.
But I would watch out for Oporum in the future.
The dude is 235 lbs and he looks pretty powerful.
I can only count twice that he ran over the defense though.

Once, he ran over Gomes, a 190-lb DB.
The Jayhawks run quite a bit of the ZBS.
On this play, they started to the right, and Oporum cut back to the left.
He ran over Gomes around the LOS before the 2 safeties can come up.

The other time, he ran over a LB 52 Dillard (240 lbs).
He was a part-time starter for the Huskers, didn't even play the first two games. I don't know whether he got the starting job due to injury or not.
Dillard got in a stance and Oporum was in full motion.
F = ma
So it's not all that surprising that Oporum knock Dillard over.
 
Suh didn't have a great game against the Jayhawks numberwise, but he was very much a presence.

He got the double team about 3/5th of the time (usually against the C 77 Hatch 311 lbs & the RG 74 Spikes 311 lbs).
In one-on-one, there were only twice that I can see that the opponent had an upperhand on him.

Once, the LG 59 Capra (292 lbs) got a little push on him (less than a yard).
Once, the RG Spikes moved him to the outside on a run (but he was penetrating that side already).

The Jayhaws ran away from him most of the time.
They also ran a lot of quick passes and roll-outs for Reesing.
And Reesing is a very slippery guy.
When Suh got into the backfield, Reesing would slither away some place else.
(Too bad the guy doesn't have the height to play in the NFL).

On the second TD for the Jayhawks, Suh got through the double team only to meet Oporum, and the pass was gone quickly.
That tells you what their game plan was for Suh.

On top of that, Suh didn't have a good day.
He wasn't highly agressive; perhaps he was frustrated a little with all the double teamings and running away.
 
Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska:
Florida Atlantic - 7 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas St - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
at Virginia Tech - 8 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack, 4 passes batted down
UL Lafayette - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass batted down
at Missouri - 6 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass batted down, 1 forced fumble, 1 INT
Texas Tech - 4 tackles, 2 TFL
Iowa st - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 2 blocked kicks
at Baylor - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack
Oklahoma - 4 tackles, 1 pass batted down, 1 blocked kick
at Kansas - 3 tackles
Kansas St - 9 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 2 passes batted down

Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma:
BYU - 5 tackles, 4 TFL
Idaho St - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack
Tulsa - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
at Miami - 1 tackles
Baylor - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 3 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
at Kansas - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Kansas St - 1 tackle, .5 TFL, .5 sack
at Nebraska - 3 tackles
Texas A&M - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL, .5 sack
at Texas Tech - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass defended

Arthur Jones, Syracuse:
Minnesota - 5 tackles, 1 TFL
at Penn St - 2 tackles
Northwestern - 2 tackles, 1 TFL
Maine - no stats accumulated
USF - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
West Virginia - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
Akron - 2 tackles
Cincinnati - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL
at Pittsburgh - no stats accumulated
at Louisville - DNP (injury)
Rutgers - DNP (injury)

Terrence Cody, Alabama:
at Virginia Tech - 1 tackle
FIU - 3 tackles, 2.5 TFL
North Texas - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas - 1 tackle
at Kentucky - 2 tackles
at Mississippi - no stats accumulated
South Carolina - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL
Tennessee - 2 tackles, 2 blocked kicks
LSU - 3 tackles
at Mississippi St - no stats accumulated
Chatanooga - 2 tackles
 
bah007 said:
Well you sure are hard to please if 15 carries for 43 yards is considered "running over" a defense.

Opurum did break some tackles, but he got almost no yards after contact. Every time he went through one guy there were two more waiting for him.
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He doesn't have the speed at this point to break big runs. He doesn't lose yardage. He's a true freshman. We also have this great game plan where we stop giving him the ball once our offense gets moving. All of his yards are after contact. You might be thinking of Sharp, our senior, #1. He gets zero yards after contact.
 
76Texan said:
YTF is a Jayhawks fan, so of course he's got to be a homer.
But I would watch out for Oporum in the future.
The dude is 235 lbs and he looks pretty powerful.
I can only count twice that he ran over the defense though.

Once, he ran over Gomes, a 190-lb DB.
The Jayhawks run quite a bit of the ZBS.
On this play, they started to the right, and Oporum cut back to the left.
He ran over Gomes around the LOS before the 2 safeties can come up.

The other time, he ran over a LB 52 Dillard (240 lbs).
He was a part-time starter for the Huskers, didn't even play the first two games. I don't know whether he got the starting job due to injury or not.
Dillard got in a stance and Oporum was in full motion.
F = ma
So it's not all that surprising that Oporum knock Dillard over.
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Haha, yeah, I will hype my team up for the most part. I won't do it for draft evals though. Opurum is a true freshman this year, and he has absolutely leveled some people. He is a punishing runner. When we put him in, we typically go away from the spread, and put in our TE (#86 Biere) and run a more traditional set. Our offense stops sputtering. We then either start running stretch plays off-tackle with Opurum or a speed option with him. Quite frustrating.

Anyway, he'll be an interesting guy to keep an eye on for the next few years. Turned down Florida and Notre Dame for KU.

Since this is the DT thread, I've seen three of the top DT's in person this year. I saw the Duke DT who I simply don't think is an NFL starter. I saw McCoy for Oklahoma (2nd year in a row I've seen him). I've never seen the hype to him, but I find myself looking at the numbers later and am always shocked. He just doesn't jump out to me during the games. He gets it done and is pretty consistent though. I also saw Suh (2nd year in a row as well) and I've again never been impressed with him in person. I have been impressed with him before against other teams. I've watched a little more film on Suh than the other guys, mostly to study up for the Nebraska game with my ex's family.

I'm not sure what to make of Crick. I don't know he's as good as his production would indicate, or if he is the beneficiary of Suh. I think they could be similar to the LSU DT's of a few years ago. I think Suh would qualify as Dorsey. Tons of hype, incredible strength. I thin Suh is a better prospect than Dorsey, as I just never liked Dorsey as a prospect (check my big board for that year to verify). I'm thinking Crick might be Tyson Jackson. And I have this thought that they both may end up no better than the Jackson/Dorsey combo I'm subjected to due to regional coverage every Sunday.
 
I've been watching Oregon State DT Stephen Paea the past two seasons & he looks like he could fit right in this defense, actually making Amobi expendable if you want the truth. He is undersized south of 290 but stout 6'1" very strong & athletic in space with ability to disengage to get off his block & make a play. I really like his game - high effort/motor who is disruptive in the backfield, think a poor mans Ndamukong Suh. He has NFL written all over him but is only a Junior. If he declares I would be all over him in the second. FYI
 
4Texans said:
After watching him last night, I could see some NFL teams throwing the rest of their games to get to draft him #1 overall. :d:
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I saw an NFL team throw their game today. They ordered their running back to throw an interception on first and goal. Unfortunately it will be tough to get the #1 pick because they already have 5 wins.
 
I removed Arthur Jones from the watch list and added Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year, Jared Odrick.

Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska:
Florida Atlantic - 7 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas St - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
at Virginia Tech - 8 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack, 4 passes batted down
UL Lafayette - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass batted down
at Missouri - 6 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass batted down, 1 forced fumble, 1 INT
Texas Tech - 4 tackles, 2 TFL
Iowa st - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 2 blocked kicks
at Baylor - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack
Oklahoma - 4 tackles, 1 pass batted down, 1 blocked kick
at Kansas - 3 tackles
Kansas St - 9 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 2 passes batted down
at Colorado - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 12 tackles, 6 TFL, 4.5 sacks

Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma:
BYU - 5 tackles, 4 TFL
Idaho St - 2 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack
Tulsa - 1 tackle, 1 TFL
at Miami - 1 tackles
Baylor - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 3 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack
at Kansas - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Kansas St - 1 tackle, .5 TFL, .5 sack
at Nebraska - 3 tackles
Texas A&M - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL, .5 sack
at Texas Tech - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass defended
Oklahoma St - 3 tackles

Terrence Cody, Alabama:
at Virginia Tech - 1 tackle
FIU - 3 tackles, 2.5 TFL
North Texas - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas - 1 tackle
at Kentucky - 2 tackles
at Mississippi - no stats accumulated
South Carolina - 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL
Tennessee - 2 tackles, 2 blocked kicks
LSU - 3 tackles
at Mississippi St - no stats accumulated
Chatanooga - 2 tackles
at Auburn - 2 tackles
vs Florida - 1 tackles, 1 TFL

Jared Odrick, Penn St:
Akron - 4 tackles, 2 TFL, .5 sack
Syracuse - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack
Temple - 2 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
Iowa - 3 tackles
at Illinois - 2 tackles
Eastern Illinois - 5 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2 sacks, 1 pass defended
Minnesota - 4 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1 sack
at Michigan - 2 tackles, .5 TFL
at Northwestern - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 blocked kick
Ohio St - 3 tackles
Indiana - 3 tackles
at Michigan St - 2 tackles
 
Fred said:
I saw an NFL team throw their game today. They ordered their running back to throw an interception on first and goal. Unfortunately it will be tough to get the #1 pick because they already have 5 wins.
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LOL..... Yes, it's too late for us to fall that far.
 
I hope the person who drafts him is not in our division. That is it, I dont want to play that monster twice a year. And it would be better if he went to the NFC.
 
bah007 said:
I removed Arthur Jones from the watch list and added Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year, Jared Odrick.

Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska:
Florida Atlantic - 7 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 pass batted down
Arkansas St - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
at Virginia Tech - 8 tackles, .5 TFL, .5 sack, 4 passes batted down
UL Lafayette - 6 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 pass batted down
at Missouri - 6 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 1 pass batted down, 1 forced fumble, 1 INT
Texas Tech - 4 tackles, 2 TFL
Iowa st - 8 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack, 2 blocked kicks
at Baylor - 5 tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack
Oklahoma - 4 tackles, 1 pass batted down, 1 blocked kick
at Kansas - 3 tackles
Kansas St - 9 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 2 passes batted down
at Colorado - 5 tackles, 1 TFL, 1 sack
vs Texas - 12 tackles, 6 TFL, 4.5 sacks
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This is supposed to say 12 tackles, 7 TFL, 4.5 sacks.
 
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