1/4 Mark of 2011 Season Mock Draft

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  1. beerlover

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    Gota get a feel how people see things shaping up, what better way than to begin this process as Texans roll into what could be their first playoff run in franchise history. No sense in resting on our laurels now, so lets keep this thing going. Shocking I still went defensive early, yeah I know they're doing so well too. Also despite the outstanding effort & work of the OL I still see a need to address this with two picks as well. Injury's are a concern & without quality back-up OL/DL players Rick/Kubiak stand a chance of losing everything they worked so hard to attain, if a starter/key players become injured & taken out of the game in key situations.

    First Round: Alameda Ta’amu, NT, Washington, 6024 336

    NFL two gap nose tackle. Size, strength, temperament. Only sure fire starting NT in this draft adds great interest around the league to 3-4 teams easily helping push his stock into the first round. Cody may fit in Wade Phillips system & I must admit he had done admirably so far but the middle of Texans run defense is still suspect, by having a true beast to disrupt blocking schemes, he would keep the LB’s clean, eliminating those frustrating medium length gains.

    Second Round: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers, 6020 215

    Playmaker can play the slot, outside, in the backfield or across the middle. Athletic, powerful RB build with outstanding leaping ability & red zone proficiency. Can also return on special teams, improving route runner can plant & cut on breaks, second gear, and excellent hands/ball control. Gives Texans a legit #2 WR without breaking the bank.

    Third Round: Kevin Zeitler, OT/OG, Wisconsin, 6034 322

    Excellent pulling guard with tackle pass-pro skills. Experience across the line. Gives Texans immediate starter @ RG & someone who can flex to tackle if needed for depth purposes. Every teams needs an OL like him for this reason.

    Fourth Round: Chris Galippo, ILB, USC, 6016 252

    Cushing clone. Very sound fundamentals with elite quickness/recognition skills & strong. This would round out Texans ILB’s with a strong group for the long haul, Cushing, DeMeco, Sharpton & Galippo.

    Fifth Round: Brett Roy, OLB, Nevada 6030 280

    Plays DT for Wolf Pack but projects to 5 tech DE in the NFL. High motor guy like Watt, really pressures the QB a lot with his hands in the air, never quitting on plays. Jamison is developing nicely, was a dynamic player too @ Michigan but he is more a sub for Antonio while Roy would be a back-up for Watt.

    Sixth Round: Cody Johnson, FB, Texas, 5110 250

    Vickers has been a bust & I miss Vonta Leach. Red zone efficiency base is a sound, solid power running attack in short spaces. Arian could use some help up close & if he can’t go Cody has made a living in short yardage situations.

    Seventh Round: Grant Garner, C, Oklahoma State, 6030 290

    Meyers has been both durable & steady. This is a developmental pick to groom behind him since every guy who tries to fill his back-up slot seems to get injured or cut. Texans are a little thin here so it’s a good idea to invest in a quality person who can someday be a starter.
     
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    Don't know much about the prospects. Positions seem to tick the boxes though.

    I must say have to love a lineman out of wisconsin, just feels right. Oh, those and TEs.
     
  3. Wolf6151

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    1. Ta'amu, I really like this pick it just makes so much sense for the Texans and he's #1 on my mock as well.

    2. Sanu, not familiar with him but I'm warming up to taking a WR in the 2nd. I like Dwight Jones though.

    3. Zeitler, love this pick but he may not be available here, he could go much earlier.

    4. Galippo, I like the player and a good position choice. I like Kevin Reddick-ILB in the 4th and have Galippo going later.

    5. Roy, I'm not familiar with him but at 280 lbs. he's to big for OLB and to small for 3-4 DE. His size just doesn't fit either position.

    6. Johnson, not familiar with him but I like the position choice and line of thinking.

    7. Garner, again I'm not familiar with him but it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a C on the PS. He'd better add some weight and be able to play OG as well if he's going to stick around waiting to take Myers spot.

    The best thing about this mock is there are no TE's or CSU players. Some good picks.
     
  4. Corrosion

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    So hard to do a mock right now - I have no idea where the Texans will be picking .... So much depends upon the next three weeks without AJ (If he comes back at all).

    I really like Ta'amu as well .... will he be around when they pick ?


    Beer - Where do you have them picking to get Ta'amu in the first ? He might end up being a top 10 pick .... top half of the 1st easily.
     
  5. rmartin65

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    I like what I am seeing BL.

    Ta'amu- After being a huge proponent of his prior to the season, the only game in which I have been able to watch him extensively Ta'amu did not look good. Now, you cant damn a prospect because of one game, so I need to watch some more film, but I am a little low on Ta'amu. Especially since his value will be higher than it should be due to his position, and the lack of players at said position.

    Sanu! Good pick. Like I said on badboy's mock, there are a lot of receivers that have the talent to go early. We should know who should be going where in the next couple months.

    I like Zeitler a lot as well. Can never go wrong with one of those Wisconsin OL.

    Galippo is solid as well, but my mid round ILB is Kendricks from California. I little shorter, but the dude can hit.

    Dont know a lot about Roy, but I like getting a backup to Watt.

    I dont think FB is a need. Casey has proven to be a good starter, and I think that the return of Foster has shown that our earlier short-yardage woes were due to his absence. That said, if I were inclined to draft a FB, Johnson would be my guy.

    Backup OC is an excellent idea.
     
  6. beerlover

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    Hopefully a prospect or two makes the final cut :evil:
     
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    20's is usual for premier player @ this (NT) position. Last year Phil Taylor went 21st, 2010 Dan Williams 26th, with BJ Raji the exception 9th (elite blue chip talent).
     
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    JJ Watt came to Wisconsin @ 265 & finished badger career with playing weight of 285-87, heck Antonio Smith combine came into the NFL 6033 274 & he was drafted in the 5th rd.

    If you watched Watt play in College what you noticed is he lived in the backfield. His numbers were impressive too 2009 15.5 tackles for loss & 4.5 sacks. Even better 2010 21 tackles for loss & 7 sacks. Last year Roy had 14.5 TFLs and 8.0 sacks & from watching his style of play he is very similar.
     


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    Enjoyed the thread. As stated I like Ta'amu but want to see more of him to compare versus Poe. If I can get a long time starter, I'd prefer to do so.

    Like your info on Sanu and hope I can watch him soon to compare to Wright.
     
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    Sanu is quite different from Wright. Very physical presence that Kubiak could move anywhere to create mis-match. Wright is more of pure vertical threat to stretch the field.
     
  11. Doppelganger

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    A great mock. A few disagreements, but all your choices are sound.

    1. I think we are on the same page here. At this point, a big boy like Ta’amu, would help the run D tremendously. Need to see how he does down the season, but right now, he is my choice.

    2. I like the idea of WR, but am leaning towards Arizona WR Juron Criner. He is a bigger target at 6'4, has good hands, and can run with decent speed. He would be a great red zone target for Schaub. What do you think of him?

    3. I get your selection, but I think ILB is of a more pressing need. Meco has not quite looked like himself this year and we could use an upgrade there. I am thinking a super sub like Arkansas LB Jerry Franklin would be a great choice. He can backup at either ILB and maybe even at OLB.

    4. One thing that Htown needs to draft every year is a RB. Having a bevy of good backs is the key to this system. We all thought we were spoiled in riches this off season, but look at what has happened: Foster, Ward, and Tate have all been injured. We have had to play an undrafted rook Chris O. A guy who hits the hole hard and fast, has reasonable burst and cut ability is what we want. How about we go back to Tennessee and grab Tauren Poole?

    5. I agree with you that we need some OL help. Last year we grabbed an OT, so this year I suggest a OG. A big OG with good footwork who is decent at run/pass blocking would be a solid choice. How about Brandon Washington from Miami?

    6. Couldn't agree more. CJ is an old school battering ram FB who can pick up the tough short yardage or be the battering ram to our RB. Vickers blows.

    7. The 3-4 is all about OLB and getting pressure. How about another high motor OLB? Adrian Robinson, OLB, Temple is a high motor guy who got 13 sacks 2 years ago. Last year was a down year, but if anyone can turn him around it would be Wade.
     
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    Oh yeah, I agree but you seem to be looking for a physical type that can power thru a tackle sort of like a Walter. I want a WR that has good hands, makes difficult catches and speed, speed and more speed to go deep & maybe can take it to the house. I want to see if Sanu is better for Texans at what he does or is Wright? The latter projects out to 21 TDs and over 2,000 yards!
     
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    That is the question, who better fits Kubiak's ideal profile for a #2 WR? Walter is not a good comparable either, he is more a utility WR who blocks, makes tough catches & runs flat routes. Sanu is a playmaker who can create, elevate & beat double teams.
     
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    Not doubting yo but what I want to see. What is his speed? He seems more of a 2o yard from scrimmage guy. Am I wrong?
     
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    Only two game later (two losses) I'm ready to look @ CB over a big cornerstone 3-4 nose tackle. maybe push position to 2nd? Texans biggest hole is opposite Joseph. This is disappointing & frustrating with all picks/money/coaching invested. On the positive if this defense is only one player/position (CB2) away from being elite they are headed in the right direction. So with that said here is my new first round target for the Texans:


    First Round: Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina, 6010 194

    Same school as Dunta Robinson, Jonathan Joesph & yes Bob McNair. Has proto-typical NFL size for a corner who can match up with bigger #1 WR's. Has fluid hips, back peddle & good use of hands. Most importantly he closes fast & has the long speed to run off the hip of receiver. http://www.gamecocksonline.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/gilmore_stephon01.html I'm not one to kick a player(s) when their down but I'm sick of seeing this team lose because of huge cushions on the perimeter, inability to challenge for balls up for grabs & not having long speed to cover nobody's. We're only kidding ourselves if we think the answer resides on this roster.
     
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    Me likee this guy

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/382862/casey-hayward

    DATE OPP RESULT TOT SOLO AST SACK FF INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD
    9/3 Elon W 45-14 6 4 2 0.0 0 1 22 22 22 0 0
    9/10 Connecticut W 24-21 4 4 0 0.0 0 1 50 50 50 1 0
    9/17 Ole Miss W 30-7 2 1 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
    9/24 @South Carolina L 21-3 3 2 1 0.0 0 2 24 12 24 0 1
    10/8 @Alabama L 34-0 4 4 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    10/15 Georgia L 33-28 7 3 4 0.0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0


    5 INTs this season already after 6 last season.
     
  19. bah007

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    Hayward is a stud. Three year starter with good size, good speed, ball skills, and he can tackle.

    On top of all that, he shows up when it matters. 3 of his 5 picks this year were against the two best QBs he has faced so far.
     
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    I like Hayward as well. I think he's listed by Walterfootball as a 2nd round pick but stats like that could easily move him into the 1st round. Are you thinking CB is our highest priority in the 2012 draft? 1st round pick?
     

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