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@ColeThornton I assume that @infantrycak closed that thread you started because it became a silly argument about how original or unoriginal your OP was. Furthermore, that thread did generate some interesting discussion, but it was not that topically different this thread. If you actually want to...

I was rereading this thread and this post struck me. I thought it was very interesting I want to comment a few lines: drawing X's and O's on a chalkboard: I still think OB is quite good at understanding X's and O's. His coaching clinic had that clear to me. I will leave it up to everyone...

It would be real interesting to see, but Dabo makes more than OB. He has a good thing going at Clemson in more ways than one. Might be hard to have him come. Also, sometimes players don't choose the best coaches. I think Eli chose McAdoo, and Lebron chose Tyronn Lue. I would still like seeing...

I will throw out one more piece of thought provoking information. My friend on the Patriots board just posted this: Lombardi's great stuff on attacking adjustments to the defence (30:00): 'GM Street' — Week 10 Rapid Reactions (Ep. 182) (this link is to site the source, no need to listen to...

For those that are too drunk, I empathize deeply. Here is a "too long didn't read": On passing plays, most NFL systems specify each individual route for each particular receiver. This allows the receiver to know exactly what to do just from the play call, but means that the play calls are...

That is a super interesting point, and I will definitely consider that going forward. My goal with posting those links was to achieve a baseline of understanding to begin the topic, but I agree it was a lazy start. I should have summarized it as best I could. Furthermore, I should have made it...

Yep, sorry I did not remember that playoff game. I looked up his stats on PFR, and they did not seem that bad for that year. I forgot to scroll all the way to the post-season! I am also aware that stats can mislead. Was just trying to get a sense of it for your perspective. The bullet points...

I think this is the key question, and I don't have a good answer for you. Honestly I think this question deserves it own thread. Assume OB knows how to competently game plan & play call on the offensive side and try to make sense of the QB history. So while don't have an answer, I do have some...

I think DW4 has been running a EP offense with RPO & zone-read option mixed in. The entire point of EP is to be flexible enough to accommodate a huge variety of play types. I have recognized the Watson & the Texans using route combinations that the Patriots run. Watson used a route concept no...

Watson's success was predicated on his ability to avoid the pass rush. Brady can still have success with garbage O-line play by reading the coverage and throwing it before the pass rush gets to him. I am not sure how OB could have schemed his way out of this one. He has a slow pocket passer who...

The thing that would be the biggest shame would be switching to a new HC that fail to help DW4 develop. I still think it would be a mistake to move on from OB for the lone reason of DW4's improvement from week 2 on. I admit this thought might be too "conservative", and it might be influenced by...

Coaches often struggle in their first gig. Belichick has mixed results in Cleveland. Josh McDaniels had a poor stint in Denver, but his work as OC deserves a second chance if he wants one. Not every coach is Bill Parcells in his first try. I am not saying you are wrong about OB. I am saying it...

I think ML is actually a great football mind. I can't think of any other media guys that have such a deep understanding of football X's & O's, the game theory of game-management, player scouting, etc. Lombardi is not always correct, but that is the nature of making predictions. He does not have...

I agree with all of that. I just think O'Brien's offensive system has a track record for success in NE. Watson was putting up insane numbers before he went down. The Texans defense has been quite good up until this year. If you combine the Texans defense of past years with Watson you get a top 3...

If you are trying to project what happens if Watson does not go down, I think it is better to do a game by game estimate. The teams you folks lost in your first 4 were quality teams.

I agree he has been making mistakes, and I have been disappointed with him. I am asking you if he is making mistakes at a higher rate than the average NFL coach. I am not sure he is. Even a very good coach such as Andy Reid is well know for his bad clock management. Pete Carol totally botched...

I mean in terms of game management decisions. Is he that much worse at things like clock management, risk assessment, game planning, etc? I used to think he was a above average coach on all that stuff, and I have cooled off on him. But I don't think he is totally terrible relative to the field...

I would say that Watson's amazing play as a rookie is what saved his job. OB should get some credit for adjusting the scheme based on Watson's skill-set. There is no guarantee that Watson would have put up numbers that amazing without OB's system. Consider how much worse Matt Ryan looks when he...

Are we arguing about the prestige levels of the various social sciences? Which requires the most quantitative skills? This is hilarious. :) Belichick studied economics :jam:

So I wanted to start this thread to discuss the EP offensive system outside of the context of the Texans. This my favorite article on the Patriots' version of it. I believe OB is trying to do similar things with your offense. In this thread on OB I described how a coach should use EP to...