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Shocking! Ahman Green injured!

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DiehardChris

You betcha!
...according to Kubiak in his presser.

He hurt his ankle against Pittsburgh. No word yet on the severity, but he also said they are working out running backs this week. He dodged the question when asked if Cedric Benson was one of them.
 
DiehardChris said:
...according to Kubiak in his presser.

He hurt his ankle against Pittsburgh. No word yet on the severity, but he also said they are working out running backs this week. He dodged the question when asked if Cedric Benson was one of them.
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He said he was not dodging that question, which means that he really is dodging that question.
 
And what good is any RB to us, until the OL has some success at keeping the opposing DL from getting 4 yards deep in the backfield on every other handoff.
 
On Green I guess this is just confirmation that every single penny he ever received from the Houston Texans was wasted money. It would have been better spent in small bills being dropped from the roof of Reliant following every game and given out to the fans.

Worst Texans free agent signing ever (and that's not easy to do)
 
Green sure takes some abuse around here, but there were a couple of plays he made yesterday that I don't think any other back we have can make. His acceleration is probably better than any other back too.

Too damn bad he can't stay on the field though...
 
Silver Oak said:
Green sure takes some abuse around here, but there were a couple of plays he made yesterday that I don't think any other back we have can make. His acceleration is probably better than any other back too.

Too damn bad he can't stay on the field though...
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Yes, and yes :I
 
Polo said:
Ahman.

The softest of the softies.
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Man, Ahman Green is NOT soft. He's just old and broken down. The guy was an absolute WARRIOR in Green Bay. He CONSTANTLY played hurt, and is one of the toughest backs in recent years... but none of those years include his time in Houston.

Anyway - I just wanted to make a distinction there. Chris Brown is soft. Reggie Bush is soft. Ahman Green is just old and finished.
 
DiehardChris said:
Man, Ahman Green is NOT soft. He's just old and broken down. The guy was an absolute WARRIOR in Green Bay. He CONSTANTLY played hurt, and is one of the toughest backs in recent years... but none of those years include his time in Houston.

Anyway - I just wanted to make a distinction there. Chris Brown is soft. Reggie Bush is soft. Ahman Green is just old and finished.
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Soft...

Being a "warrior" in the past doesn't mean he can't be soft now.
 
I have been supportive of Green even this year, however another injury! He has to go now, he is becoming no more than a distraction for us.
 
Sorry, but I put this BS is on no one other than Gary freaking Kubiak. He's the guy that thought he plug any one of these garbage RB's in have this great running game since he's been here. I knew from the start that Green was a terrible move, because he had been banged up for like the last 3 years in GB. He did nothing last year, and I thought for sure he would have been cut, but nooooooo we kept him and added one more injury plagued back thinking he was the answer as if Brown didn't have Green written all over him.

I'm so sick of trying to follow this Denver Broncos path of getting any ole RB. We've had two years to address this, and the only decent thing to mention is Steve Slaton whom is not the long term answer for an every down back. Possibly a part of a committee, but that's about it.

This whole Green thing was a BIG screw up on Kubiak and Smith for thinking that he could give us a lot of help. Having that much faith in Amaan Green was a straight DOm Capers/ Casserly move.
 
Kubiak tried to draft RBs, the one he wanted just didn't fall to us. Remember he wanted to trade up and get D-Will in his first year as HC. This past draft he wanted Forte, but the Bears took him in the 2nd. He knows the running game is hurting our team right now, but what can he do about it? FA, theres no one, at our price range, that could help us from the last two FA. He just playing with the card that was dealt to him.
 
I realize this is dangerously close to those "Hire Earl Campbell to coach our running backs!" posts that we all laugh at when they come up but hear me out.

Here's what he could do. We go sign Cedric Benson and then we come to a settlement with Ahman Green that pays him to stick around in those sweats that he's worn more than pads since he came here and he spends the rest of the year trying to get through to Cedric. I mean, think about it for a moment. Nobody ever questions the kind of person he is or his work ethic. He KNOWS what it takes to be a successful NFL running back and how to stay in shape. He just can't stay healthy anymore to do it. Instead we have him work off his considerable debt to Bob McNair by putting him in a position of authority over our guys and giving him a chance to do something productive for the organization that's paid him to pretty much "be hurt" for two straight years.
 
Polo said:
Ahman.

The softest of the softies.
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Polo said:
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Soft...

Being a "warrior" in the past doesn't mean he can't be soft now.
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Soft is more like Shaun Alexander.
Ahman is brittle.
...old and brittle.
 
Matt Forte would have been perfect fit in ZBS but until the Texans STOP trading away 2nd rd. picks its next to impossible to aquire that kind of lock @ RB unless you use a 1st rd. pick. LT was also bypassed far too long.

Right now right here I'd cut Green & bring in Shaun Alexander for at least a workout :jogger:
 
beerlover said:
Matt Forte would have been perfect fit in ZBS but until the Texans STOP trading away 2nd rd. picks its next to impossible to aquire that kind of lock @ RB unless you use a 1st rd. pick. LT was also bypassed far too long.

Right now right here I'd cut Green & bring in Shaun Alexander for at least a workout :jogger:
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I rather go with the younger potential in Cedric Benson. Alexander is just as wash-up as Green is. No more hags, please.
 
beerlover said:
Matt Forte would have been perfect fit in ZBS but until the Texans STOP trading away 2nd rd. picks its next to impossible to aquire that kind of lock @ RB unless you use a 1st rd. pick. LT was also bypassed far too long.

Right now right here I'd cut Green & bring in Shaun Alexander for at least a workout :jogger:
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The way we blocked yesterday , Jim Brown would have a hard time getting a 100 yards .

I'm getting a sinking feeling that a light , athletic interior OL does'nt do well against big , strong DTs and NGs . We play Ngata Sunday , he's a big , quick 350 lb NG .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The way we blocked yesterday , Jim Brown would have a hard time getting a 100 yards .

I'm getting a sinking feeling that a light , athletic interior OL does'nt do well against big , strong DTs and NGs . We play Ngata Sunday , he's a big , quick 350 lb NG .
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He'll step on Myers on his way to the QB.
 
J-Russ said:
Kubiak tried to draft RBs, the one he wanted just didn't fall to us. Remember he wanted to trade up and get D-Will in his first year as HC. This past draft he wanted Forte, but the Bears took him in the 2nd. He knows the running game is hurting our team right now, but what can he do about it? FA, theres no one, at our price range, that could help us from the last two FA. He just playing with the card that was dealt to him.
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He wanted to, didn't solve our re-occurring RB problem that has existed for two possibly going on 3 years now. We have a RUN FIRST team, so getting some good RB's should have been top priority in this off season. There were plenty of other good backups to trade for in the off season, and others that we could have drafted as well other than just Steve Slaton. I like what Slaton should bring, but it still won't be enough when your offensive system is predicated on the run and your bread and butter in the passing game is the Play action.

I was ticked when we passed on Mendenhall, because there were a ton of Texans fans that swore we wouldn't do that if he was available and I knew that they would, because Kubiak has that ridiculous Shanahan type Ego that he can run the ball with just about anyone under their zone blocking system, but our running game has only gotten worse under Kubiak, so I'm sick of the hearing the whole line about how we couldn't afford to get a quality RB in this off season, when the fact of the matter is that Kubiak and company have had 3 off seasons now, and have yet to get us a quality RB or a quality running game under these Wali Lundi types and these banged up old "Has Been", vets that get hurt every single time they get touched.
 
J-Russ said:
I rather go with the younger potential in Cedric Benson. Alexander is just as wash-up as Green is. No more hags, please.
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Oh yeah. Alexander has been trying like hell to get some attention and swears up and down that all the things that were slowing him down the last couple of years are fine now.

You know, that may very well be true. He might be bouncing around waiting for his phone call like a 24 year old and be in the best shape of his life. I'm not going to say that it isn't possible.

But I will say this. Ahman Green has been in the best shape of any high-mileage 31 year old running back ever and that doesn't have anything to do with what happens to his body once the games get real. It's not how great Alexander feels that we should be paying attention to. It's what happens when a similar back with excellent health and fitness habits starts trying to perform. He breaks down easily. So will, most likely Shaun Alexander.

But what the hell, if he's a good citizen, will play for the minimum, and Bob McNair doesn't mind losing a couple more million then why not sign him. Maybe he's the guy who defies the conventional wisdom right?

Unlikely.
 
beerlover said:
True, Alexander was a product of a very good OL, but he was a league MVP.
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At least Alexander has had several successful seasons in the NFL, and has shown that he can run the ball if the blocking is good. He's always had great vision in between the tackles. I think Alexander would be a waste of time as well, but I'd certainly rather take a look at him over Ced Benson who has never has one good season in the NFL. I'd take a washed up Alexander over a "Never Was", RB in Benson who gets arrested every month any day.
 
Hervoyel said:
But what the hell, if he's a good citizen, will play for the minimum, and Bob McNair doesn't mind losing a couple more million then why not sign him. Maybe he's the guy who defies the conventional wisdom right?

Unlikely.
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Do we have anything to lose at this point?

If he´s cheap go for it. If it wern't for a couple of fumbles yesterday I would even consider getting Ricky Williams :)
 
I'm really not surprised that Ahman is hurt again but am disappointed that he is injured. I never thought we should have signed him and now it seems that it was a waste of money. Good news is, at least we'll get to see more of Slaton, Taylor and perhaps Walker.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The way we blocked yesterday , Jim Brown would have a hard time getting a 100 yards .

I'm getting a sinking feeling that a light , athletic interior OL does'nt do well against big , strong DTs and NGs . We play Ngata Sunday , he's a big , quick 350 lb NG .
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Well, here's the deal, the "west coast offense" has variations. Reid is from holmgren and u see the biggest o-line in football. When holgren was in green bay, they also had big linemen like winters and such to run the g-power and really just "debo" people. Denny Green also like those massive guys. In dnver, kubbes and shanaahan like smaller quicker guys so they can move the pocket, zone blkk to get to the nxt leevel. The texans are in transition iin that area so it might take a few weeks. Its not that they have probems against those big strong nt, everyone has problems against hampton,williams, woolfolk ngata to name a few. Pittsburgh was the #1 defense last yr. Look how chicago made peyton look. Look at carson with under 100 yds passing. I mean those d-line guys get paid too.
 
Hardcore Texan said:
And what good is any RB to us, until the OL has some success at keeping the opposing DL from getting 4 yards deep in the backfield on every other handoff.
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I mentioned in the Cedric Benson thread.....Jim Brown, in his prime, would not help this team right now.

Gibbs needs to get a new magic wand.

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oops just noticed Brown was mentioned in a previous post.
 
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IMO Green skipped out on preseason with a BS injury.....its the coaches who are soft, this team was way too pampered in the preseason and it showed yesterday.
 
I just have a hard time believing that AG isn't playing the Texans for an easy paycheck. The first time he touched the ball yesterday he nearly went fetal BEFORE the collision...reminds me of pre-season.

There basically are only two possible conclusions to draw:

1) He's too "brittle" to hack it anymore.

2) He's playing just hard enough & often enough to get paid, but no more.

I'm leaning towards the latter. I REALLY, REALLY wish he'd prove me wrong.
 
He'll be IR'ed or released within the next couple of weeks unless he plays as many snaps as the coaches want him to.
 
Wow, Ahman Green is hurt again. Soft..wet spongy soft. And another thing-Why in the hell didn't Chris Taylor even sniff the field? We didn't Jacoby get any burn at WR? What the hell is Kubes doing right now?:headhurts:
 
leebigeztx said:
Well, here's the deal, the "west coast offense" has variations. Reid is from holmgren and u see the biggest o-line in football. When holgren was in green bay, they also had big linemen like winters and such to run the g-power and really just "debo" people. Denny Green also like those massive guys. In dnver, kubbes and shanaahan like smaller quicker guys so they can move the pocket, zone blkk to get to the nxt leevel. The texans are in transition iin that area so it might take a few weeks. Its not that they have probems against those big strong nt, everyone has problems against hampton,williams, woolfolk ngata to name a few. Pittsburgh was the #1 defense last yr. Look how chicago made peyton look. Look at carson with under 100 yds passing. I mean those d-line guys get paid too.
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I think one of the reasons why the little guys worked in Denver is the altitude for 8 games . Atlants played well during the Gibbs era with smaller guys on turf .

Put small guys on grass against big guys ... it'll be ok ... I'm drinking a shot of battle red koolaid ... it's better .
 
Texan JBZ said:
Wow, Ahman Green is hurt again. Soft..wet spongy soft. And another thing-Why in the hell didn't Chris Taylor even sniff the field? We didn't Jacoby get any burn at WR? What the hell is Kubes doing right now?:headhurts:
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Because Taylor and Jones are 2nd-stringers at best. They're not the saviors for this football team. People need to get Pre-Season-Warrior Jacoby out of their minds. He makes a couple of plays, but he's just not consistent enough to place him about AJ, Andre Davis, David Anderson, or Kevin Walter. Unless one of those dudes goes down, or we're running a 5-WR set, he needs to keep the ball taped to his hands while he waits to return punts.
 
Hervoyel said:
But what the hell, if he's a good citizen, will play for the minimum, and Bob McNair doesn't mind losing a couple more million then why not sign him. Maybe he's the guy who defies the conventional wisdom right?

Unlikely.
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I was thinking last week when I heard that - if he is truly willing to come in for minimum (make it similar to Ahman's) - give him a shot. However, if he was truly willing to play for pennies on the dollar, someone would have given him a shot by now...
 
Yankee_In_TX said:
I was thinking last week when I heard that - if he is truly willing to come in for minimum (make it similar to Ahman's) - give him a shot. However, if he was truly willing to play for pennies on the dollar, someone would have given him a shot by now...
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Perhaps he wanted a Texan team to ask ;)
 
Green is just brittle and he knows it. If he could play full bore and accomplish something for us, he would; but, he can't. So, he's just going to waist a roster spot and make all he still can. I'm just glad his contract was renegotiated.

If he's avoiding hits, it's because he knows he can't take too many of them and stay healthy. I'm beginning to wonder if he can even jog a mile or two without breaking both legs. Has anybody even checked????????.................................duh?
 
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