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Who are the Texans real top prospects

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who has been most impressive at their Pro Day/Combine-

  • Mike Williams
  • Braylon Edwards
  • Shawne Merriman
  • Carlos Rogers
  • Troy Williamson
  • Thomas Davis
  • Adam Pac-Man Jones

who had the most impressive College career-

  • David Pollack
  • Carnell Williams
  • Cedric Benson
  • Braylon Edwards
  • Antrell Rolle
  • Derrick Johnson
  • Carnell Cadillac Williams

who is projected to become the next star in the NFL-as rated by QI Sports NFL Potential Outcome: (Scale: Average, Good, Superstar. Elite Superstar!!!)

  • Mike Williams NFL Comparison: Plaxico Burress (But more dominating!) NFL Potential Outcome: Elite Superstar!!!
  • Ronnie Brown NFL Comparison: Patriots: Cory Dillon NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar
  • Carlos Rogers NFL Comparison: Jets: Donnie Abraham NFL Potential Outcome: Good note: I believe his stock has risen significantly & could very well now be rated Superstar status
  • Cedric Benson NFL Comparison: Packers: Ahman Green NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar
  • Carnell Cadillac Williams NFL Comparison: Seahawks: Shaun Alexander NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar
  • Derrick Johnson NFL Comparison: 49ers: LB Julian Peterson NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar
  • Braylon Edwards NFL Comparison: Texans: Andre Johnson NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar
  • Antell Rolle NFL Comparison: Bills: Nate Clements NFL Potential Outcome: Superstar

just bored I guess but would have to rank Braylon #1 followed by Mike Williams #2 (hard to believe playing on back to back National Champions would hurt is cause).

#3 Derrick Johnson, defensive playmaker will need to learn to cover
#4 Antrell Rolle, great career, a lock to have all pro career
#5 Carlos Rogers, (remember last year nobody gave Dunta a chance @ #10)
#6 Ronnie Brown, has the potential to be a great NFL back key word potential
#7 Carnell Williams, great career, mentally tough, pkg of skills
#8 Cedric Benson, may be there for the Texans, durable pounder
#9 Shawne Merriman, is he a 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB? maybe both
#10 David Pollack, NFL 3-4 OLB with quickness to cover or pass rush
#11 Pac-Man, needs Glenn's touch to refine his skills to become another DR
#12 Thomas Davis, great run support & can cover could be a match @ ILB
#13 Troy Williamson, Bradfords replacement? blend of speed & raw talent

here is some cool artwork as well- http://www.drafticon.com/draft_icons.html
 
Bottle-O-Bud said:
1) 2) Thomas Davis - shore up the secondary, dont rely on Earl to make it to the next level. TD will impact the D immediately.
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I must admit this is somewhat an about face for me on Thomas Davis because of the radical changes to our linebackers it seems the Texans are looking for better speed & cover skills which having played safety in a linebacker frame would serve Thomas well with the Texans. a poor mans Derrick Johnson if you will, so I would not be as oppossed as before thinking the Texans would draft him to play safety when Earl Glenn is so promising. also he adds depth to both positons, if needed due to injury he could fill in the Safety spot as well.
 
I've been thinking him and Shazor are linebackers for a while. I think both of them could play inside for us.
 
Vinny said:
I've been thinking him and Shazor are linebackers for a while. I think both of them could play inside for us.
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Davis is way more athletic than Shazor. Davis ran around 4.45 in his pro day and Shazor ran around 4.70. I hope TD plays SS for some team. Can you imagine a 230 pound tackling machine coming at you with his speed? :)
 
Im worried about Davis.. mostly because ive seen so many reports that he does not have good coverage skills. If we were to pick him I would be skeptical.


But as people have pointed out.. they said AJ didnt run good routes.. and there were some knocks on Dunta too (cant remember them off the top of my head, but he turned out pretty dang good).. so who knows?
 
Grid said:
Im worried about Davis.. mostly because ive seen so many reports that he does not have good coverage skills. If we were to pick him I would be skeptical.
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We already drafted one SS with weak coverage skills. I don't necessarily believe that we will draft TD, but he is no doubt a better football player than Earl.
 
wags said:
We already drafted one SS with weak coverage skills. I don't necessarily believe that we will draft TD, but he is no doubt a better football player than Earl.
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Just curious, but what's better about Davis? Both are hard-hitters that excel against the run but have below average cover skills...Davis' speed may be a little better, and his size is better, but that's it...
 
D-ReK said:
Just curious, but what's better about Davis? Both are hard-hitters that excel against the run but have below average cover skills...Davis' speed may be a little better, and his size is better, but that's it...
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Me thinks you did not watch many Georgia games. Davis is one of those guys who is always around the ball. TD is a great blitzer and an amazing tackler. Ask any Georgia fan if they have ever seen him miss a tackle. Ever. If you watched the Wisconsin game you saw his blitz ability. He absolutely blew up Anthony Davis on his way to the sack.

Earl averaged 3.5 tackles a game this year. Is that the kind of production you want? Besides the tackles he made zero plays. Zero.

Why is he better? Bigger, quicker, better tackler, better blitzer, and he actually makes plays.

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I'm a huge Michigan fan (class of '94) and have watched every game Shazor has played in, including last season. He is a decent player and hard hitter but he lacks in coverage skills and is by no means a playmaker (that's why Marlin Jackson was still playing safety until this year) Taking Shazor before the 3rd round I think would be a BIG mistake (as much as I would love to see more Maize & blue wearing Steel Blue). I still think D-line/OLB is our most pressing need and someone who can play immediately with impact will be there at #13. :thumbup
 
No, I didn't watch any Dawg games last year, that's why I asked you, someone who has seen him play in numerous games, about him...I appreciate the input though...I have asked this exact question for a while now, and you are the only person who has come up with a viable answer...I doubt we go the route of SS in the 1st, but if he was chosen, I wouldn't complain too loudly...
 
D-ReK said:
...I doubt we go the route of SS in the 1st, but if he was chosen, I wouldn't complain too loudly...
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I think there is little chance of him being taken also. I still enjoy pimping him though. :)
 
Wags, I will kind of combine you and Vinny on this--if the Texans want to draft him to replace Foreman then I can start to warm to it--a hard hitter, good in run support, played LB before, weak in coverage as a SS so probably strong as a LB, very athletic LB sounds like something the Texans might be looking towards. If it is in the Bottle mode of replacing Earl, I think it is a bad idea with the #13 pick.
 
:hmmm: I think Davis at ILB makes sense, but would he be better than other ILBs who wouldn't be as much of a project (Crowder, Thurman, Ruud)? I'll leave that decision to CC, but it makes for fun offseason discussion...
 
just curious here and yes, I don't follow Georgia football.

As far as Davis not being able to be good in coverage. Is this a coachable problem? I.e. footwork, recognition? ....I don't see us drafting him..but pondered this scenario (yes it is crazy) if he did come in and beat whoever out of the starting LB spot... and worked on coverage skills....would he be Colemans replacement and move from LB to safety? or is he just too slow?


and yes I am wondering err maybe bored and looking for info :wacko:
 
infantrycak said:
Wags, I will kind of combine you and Vinny on this--if the Texans want to draft him to replace Foreman then I can start to warm to it--a hard hitter, good in run support, played LB before, weak in coverage as a SS so probably strong as a LB, very athletic LB sounds like something the Texans might be looking towards. If it is in the Bottle mode of replacing Earl, I think it is a bad idea with the #13 pick.
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ILB thats the key, now is he the best player available @ #13 :confused:

obviously I did not include the QB's in the Texans Real Top Prospects so that would drop him down my list to the #13 or #14th spot if they go early, hence if these guys go in this order we would have our choice of Adam Jones CB, Thomas Davis ILB/S & Troy Williamson WR.
 
wags said:
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Yep, Davis must of laid a couple of people out during that game above cause it was against the power house that is Northwestern State University in Natchitoches


:heh: :jk:
 
Wolf said:
just curious here and yes, I don't follow Georgia football.
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Yea, I knew I would come off the wrong way. I have to defend my boy though. :bag:

Wolf said:
As far as Davis not being able to be good in coverage. Is this a coachable problem? I.e. footwork, recognition? ....I don't see us drafting him..but pondered this scenario (yes it is crazy) if he did come in and beat whoever out of the starting LB spot... and worked on coverage skills....would he be Colemans replacement and move from LB to safety? or is he just too slow?
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No Davis is not too slow. I'm glad he showed it in the pro day, because people were really believing the .com detractors.

The reason people are saying he is weak in coverage is basically because of one play in the Auburn game. Davis come up to stop the run on a sweep and Caddy threw the ball over his head for a touchdown. He bit on the HB pass that week, but the next week he almost intercepted a HB pass. :hmmm: Georgia also switched TD and Greg Blue throughout the game. By this I mean that TD did not line up at SS every play, he sometimes played FS, or down in the box as a third linebacker. Some people got confused on who was blowing coverage Blue or Davis. Thomas Davis is not bad in coverage, he just got burned on a HB pass on the national stage. Probably the only game some people watched.
 
Just an FYI, but we cut Brown about two weeks ago...I think our depth at safety is decent, but it could be upgraded...The starters are fine, but behind them, there are serious depth questions...Can Lord be a good back-up FS, or will we use dime back Lewis Sanders in this role? Can Ramon Walker come back and play well after a year on IR? Can Simmons follow-up on the best year of his 8 year career? We shall soon know the answers to these questions...
 
What about Marcus Spears, Or Antraj Hawthorne, where are they on your talent list? We Need DT's Badly. Aside from Robaire I really dont see our D line getting to much push at the point of attack. They are not occupying enough blockers to free up our pass rush LBs to get a shot at the opposing QB.

This is our biggest need and unfortunately not the greatest draft for 3-4 lineman
 
outofhnd said:
What about Marcus Spears, Or Antraj Hawthorne, where are they on your talent list? We Need DT's Badly. Aside from Robaire I really dont see our D line getting to much push at the point of attack. They are not occupying enough blockers to free up our pass rush LBs to get a shot at the opposing QB.

This is our biggest need and unfortunately not the greatest draft for 3-4 lineman
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yeah not the greatest draft for 3-4 DT's, these guys will be coming out next year-
Rodrique Wright, 6-5, 320, Texas
Gabe Watson, 6-4, 335, Michigan
LeKevin Smith, 6-2, 310, Nebraska
Orien Harris, 6-4, 300, Miami
Anthony Montgomery, 6-5, 315, Minnesota
Gerald Anderson, 6-2, 315, Georgia
Kwakou Robinson, 6-4, 325, Virginia
*Haloti, Ngata, 6-5, 345, Oregon
initially if you had been paying attention to this board as the underclassman were thinking about delcaring or staying in school I was on the Ngata bandwagon, but he decided to return to school, Payne had successful surgery, resigned & is no longer a free agent.

I think its narrowed down to these 3 or 4 as the most skilled, BPA who fit the Texans system. Troy Williamson WR, Adam Jones CB, Thomas Davis ILB/S, David Pollack OLB (maybe available).

I've seen Carlos Rogers stock soaring, now considered on most internet boards anyway as the #2 rated CB and as high as #7 prospect so I'm not getting my hopes up he will still be there now. Nor expect Cedric Benson, Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown, Edwards, Williams, Rolle, Merriman & Johnson.
 
Well I was crushed when some of the guys on your list decided to stay in school, but that is how it works sometimes. I dont like Jones, Davis, or Williamson, and I think Pollack is a stand up guy, but would be the same as Babin so I dont like that. Jones holds all the time, Willamson is Hype, and Davis would be a good ILB but if we try to play him at S he will be a liability (very rigid hips). Rogers will be available and KC would love to get him. I think he is the second best CB with Rolle, Rogers, Miller, Jones being the list of top CBs in the draft.
 
Updated Texans Prospect Draft Board with NFL comp & forecast

  • Braylon Edwrards, Andre Johnson/superstar
  • Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress/elite superstar
  • Ronnie Brown, Corey Dillion/superstar
  • Derrick Johnson, Julian Peterson/superstar
  • Carnell Williams, Shaun Alexander/superstar
  • Antrell Rolle, Nate Clements/superstar
  • Cedric Benson, Ahman Green/superstar
  • Shawne Merriman, Jon Abraham/superstar
  • Alex Barron, Willie Roaf/superstar
  • Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar
  • Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good
  • David Pollack, Brad Scioli (with more talent)/good
  • Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar
  • Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good*

nfl comp & rating provided by Q.I. Sports
* nfl comp & rating provided by beerlover
 
I think Shaun Alexander and Ahman green should switch because the more tape you watch the more Carnell williams reminds you of Ahman and shaun is a pure rusher like cedrick. Plaxico is not an elite superstar by the way and Carlos Rogers is the most like D-Rob. Troy Williamson is more like Donte Stallworth than Javon Walker
 
cadahnic said:
I think Shaun Alexander and Ahman green should switch because the more tape you watch the more Carnell williams reminds you of Ahman and shaun is a pure rusher like cedrick. Plaxico is not an elite superstar by the way and Carlos Rogers is the most like D-Rob. Troy Williamson is more like Donte Stallworth than Javon Walker
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talk to QI-
talk to me about Davis/Darius :)
 
cadahnic said:
Carlos Rogers is the most like D-Rob.
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I'd actually compare Pac-Man to D-Rob, but maybe that's just me...I could see us taking a young DE to rotate in this year and then taking a NT next year, becuase the depth at the position will be great...
 
cadahnic said:
What do you mean about Davis/Darius?
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I used Q.I Sports for the comparisons & ratings, here is the link- http://qisports.com/nfldraft.html

there was not a link for Thomas Davis so I had to create my own. so I compared him to Donavin Darius, Jaguars Safety. they are both physical, the same size 6-1 225 lbs, and similar speed both 4.6 at the combine. heres where they begin to differ, Thomas is already close to 230 lbs when Darius came into the NFL he was 205 lbs and while both ran 4.6-4.65 at their respective combines, just this week Thomas Davis was timed at Georgia Pro Day sub 4.5 for the 40. so Darius is a good NFL comp now, coming out of College Thomas is the superior talent.

also since Thomas is projected to play the linebacker position in the NFL, here is a NFL comp (once again my own) for ILB. Jonathan, Vilma 6-1 230 lbs. defensive rookie of the year (2004). Vilma was the #12 selection in last years draft out of Miami. I think this verstility really favors Thomas this year @ #13 if the Texans project him as their future ILB next to Greenwood.
 
hmmm i thought we all thought G. Earl played good. I mean it did seem when he took over the spot for E. Brown that our defense really improved. And hey we won our first game when he went in for E. Brown in Kansas City ! Earl is our SS for the future, and i think the coaches feel the same otherwise i doubt they woulda let Brown go !
 
TexansTrueFan said:
hmmm i thought we all thought G. Earl played good. I mean it did seem when he took over the spot for E. Brown that our defense really improved. And hey we won our first game when he went in for E. Brown in Kansas City ! Earl is our SS for the future, and i think the coaches feel the same otherwise i doubt they woulda let Brown go !
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your missing the point, we're talking about ILB not SS for the Texans. its just that he has played the Safety position @ Georgia & has to be categorized one way or the other. as his College career has come to a close people are projecting him as a linebacker in the NFL, I thought I made that pretty clear and that Glenn Earl is our starting SS and would only be subsituted if on injured reserve :confused:

also the very fact they let Brown go might suggest something is in the works, when you have top caliber players who can back-fill mutliple positions you can afford to upgrade :cool:
 
beerlover said:
your missing the point, we're talking about ILB not SS for the Texans. its just that he has played the Safety position @ Georgia & has to be categorized one way or the other. as his College career has come to a close people are projecting him as a linebacker in the NFL, I thought I made that pretty clear and that Glenn Earl is our starting SS and would only be subsituted if on injured reserve :confused:

also the very fact they let Brown go might suggest something is in the works, when you have top caliber players who can back-fill mutliple positions you can afford to upgrade :cool:
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i only said that because i read many posts where people said they were dissapointed how Earl played last season, i wasnt responding dierctly to ur post.
 
ourlads just updated their top 64 prospects here is where they rank them accordingly with my list for the Texans top draft prospects board-

Braylon Edwrards, Andre Johnson/superstar, ourlads #2
Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress/elite superstar, ourlads #4
Ronnie Brown, Corey Dillion/superstar, ourlads #1
Derrick Johnson, Julian Peterson/superstar, our lads #7
Carnell Williams, Shaun Alexander/superstar, our lads #6
Antrell Rolle, Nate Clements/superstar, our lads #3
Cedric Benson, Ahman Green/superstar, our lads #9
Shawne Merriman, Jon Abraham/superstar, ourlads #5
Alex Barron, Willie Roaf/superstar, ourlads #17
Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar, ourlads #34
Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
David Pollack, Brad Scioli (with more talent)/good, ourlads #23
Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar,our lads #25
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

I'm not interested in sorting by their numbers, I like the list as is but just gives everyone more data to ponder to help come to a logical conclusion, if you subscribe to BPA http://www.ourlads.com/OurladsTop64.html
 
Spears>Pollack

Had a better college career too, just didn't get as much hype. God I can't tell you as an SEC fan how tired I am of hearing about Pollack and his motor. The guy is overrated.
 
DChamp said:
Spears>Pollack

Had a better college career too, just didn't get as much hype. God I can't tell you as an SEC fan how tired I am of hearing about Pollack and his motor. The guy is overrated.
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I don't get how you can compare two players who are projected to play different positions in our system...Pollack will probably struggle if a 4-3 team takes him and be great if a 3-4 team takes him...Honestly though, I wouldn't mind having either of them...
 
I was just browsing NFL.Com's pro day page and saw their report on Georgia's pro day...I don't think that anyone noted that Chris Palmer was there, undoubtedly to take a look at Reggie Brown or Fred Gibson...I also saw Gil Brandt's note on Davis...

Davis (6-0¾, 227) ran his 40s in 4.43 and 4.44. He had a 9-foot-10 long jump and 12 reps. Scouts worked him at safety and at linebacker, and the consensus is that he will remain at safety in the NFL.
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Do you think that the scouts reached this concensus due to him fairing badly in linbacker drills or becuase his 40 time was higher than most people thought it would be?
 
D-ReK said:
Do you think that the scouts reached this concensus due to him fairing badly in linbacker drills or becuase his 40 time was higher than most people thought it would be?
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Sounds like a combination of both.
 
If possible, I would rather trade out of the first round for a 2nd round pick (plus maybe a mid to late round pick) and a first rounder in next years draft.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
If possible, I would rather trade out of the first round for a 2nd round pick (plus maybe a mid to late round pick) and a first rounder in next years draft.
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I like that idea...After about the first 10 picks, the talent in this draft is about even until the mid-2nd, plus next year's draft is shaping up to be a really good one...
 
In my opinion, our LB needs could be solved by signing Scott Fujita (OLB) (RFA-5th round pick) to a front loaded contract & drafting Robert McCune (ILB) in the 2nd or 3rd round. That gives us a starting LB crew of Babin, Greenwood, Wong, & Fujita, with our reserves being Peek, McCune, Cheatwood, Polk, Anderson, Orr, & Evans. By the way, how many LB's will we keep on the roster?

With the #13 pick, I'd take in this order:

1) DJ
2) Ronnie Brown
3) Braylon Edwards
4) Cedric Benson
5) Antrel Rolle
6) Mike Williams
7) "Pa-Man" Jones
8) Carlos Rogers
9) Alex Barron
10) Shawne Merriman
11) Troy Williamson
12) Justin Miller

If we assume that Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, & Carnell Williams will be taken in the top 12 picks as well, that means that we should have our choice of at least 3 of those players.
 
Hottoddie said:
With the #13 pick, I'd take in this order:

1) DJ
2) Ronnie Brown
3) Braylon Edwards
4) Cedric Benson
5) Antrel Rolle
6) Mike Williams
7) "Pa-Man" Jones
8) Carlos Rogers
9) Alex Barron
10) Shawne Merriman
11) Troy Williamson
12) Justin Miller

If we assume that Aaron Rodgers, Alex Smith, & Carnell Williams will be taken in the top 12 picks as well, that means that we should have our choice of at least 3 of those players.
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wow is the your 1-12 draft order or how you think texans wish list.
 
royce1054 said:
ok, I was wondering bc Justin Miller isnt gonna be drafted until the 20's i was like ?????
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I like Justin Miller too...and would NOT be upset if the Texans drafted him @ #13. I don't care what the Mocks say when it comes right down to it each team tests the prospects they are interested in to the ninth degree, if Casserly/Cappers decide he is the man then so be it.

complementing DR either with a quick, speed cover or big, physical cover is the question? a big physical corner oppossite DR like Rogers or speedy cover like Miller (I would be happy either way and trust the Texans staff to make the call)

Justin Miller also led the Nation in kick-off return average and is a threat to take it the length of the field every time he touches the ball. this gives the Texans a valuable commodity in this age of the salary cap. sorry JJ no offense :tiptoe:
 
I feel compelled to expand somewhat from this list of players the Texans must be considering-

Braylon Edwrards, Andre Johnson/superstar, ourlads #2 GONE
Mike Williams, Plaxico Burress/elite superstar, ourlads #4 GONE
Ronnie Brown, Corey Dillion/superstar, ourlads #1 GONE
Derrick Johnson, Julian Peterson/superstar, our lads #7 GONE
Carnell Williams, Shaun Alexander/superstar, our lads #6 GONE
Antrell Rolle, Nate Clements/superstar, our lads #3 GONE
Cedric Benson, Ahman Green/superstar, our lads #9 GONE
Shawne Merriman, Jon Abraham/superstar, ourlads #5 GONE

now from these players most likely will come the Texans 1st pick in the 2005 draft. most internet pro's say the Texans will take Barron, most Texans insiders say no way will the Texans go that route. that WR or CB will be selected, which eliminates Pollack.

Alex Barron, Willie Roaf/superstar, ourlads #17
Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar, ourlads #34
Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
David Pollack, Brad Scioli (with more talent)/good, ourlads #23
Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar,our lads #25
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

this leaves these as the top prospects left on the Texans board-

Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar, ourlads #34
Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar,our lads #25
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

this is my opinion but the top prospects among this group are Rogers & Davis.

Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

Rogers still needs to be developed as a CB but what better situation for him than with the Texans. he has both the size & speed NFL teams covet & is a punishing tackler in run support & terror in blitz packages. with Dunta in place & Glenn to teach this sets up both corners long term in what has fast become one of the most expensive and difficult positions to address.

Davis would be projected to change positions & play ILB, although he could play some Safety and at least take ownership as a back-up. he would bring some fear & intimidation into the secondary & is a force in run support. he is very similar in size to Derrick Johnson & speed plus he has experience in coverage.

bottom line both would be projects to a degree but thats what is available @ #13 and if the Texans make the investment & feel positive then I feel positive the returns will be worth it.
 
beerlover said:
now from these players most likely will come the Texans 1st pick in the 2005 draft. most internet pro's say the Texans will take Barron, most Texans insiders say no way will the Texans go that route. that WR or CB will be selected, which eliminates Pollack.

Alex Barron, Willie Roaf/superstar, ourlads #17
Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar, ourlads #34
Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
David Pollack, Brad Scioli (with more talent)/good, ourlads #23
Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar,our lads #25
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

this leaves these as the top prospects left on the Texans board-

Troy Williamson, Javon Walker(not as big)/superstar, ourlads #34
Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
Adam pac-man Jones, Philip Buchanon/superstar,our lads #25
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

this is my opinion but the top prospects among this group are Rogers & Davis.

Carlos Rogers, Donnie Abraham/good, ourlads #8
Thomas Davis, Donavon Darius/good, ourlads #15

Rogers still needs to be developed as a CB but what better situation for him than with the Texans. he has both the size & speed NFL teams covet & is a punishing tackler in run support & terror in blitz packages. with Dunta in place & Glenn to teach this sets up both corners long term in what has fast become one of the most expensive and difficult positions to address.

Davis would be projected to change positions & play ILB, although he could play some Safety and at least take ownership as a back-up. he would bring some fear & intimidation into the secondary & is a force in run support. he is very similar in size to Derrick Johnson & speed plus he has experience in coverage.
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Benson stock has fallen considerably... He might be there esp if Travis Henry deal would actually go through.

Davis helped out his stock by running that 4.45 40 wasnt it some body help me out there . I remember he ran a good time and it suspouse to raise his stock drastically. If he bulks up.... he could be an excellent OLB.

On my board i have the titans taking Pac man so if he is there it will be a surprise be Titans and Washington both want CB.

Rodgers i have him going to Cheifs their D sucks.

The reason i think Williamson is BPA is because he can step in and be an every down player. He has the speed to stretch the field.

There is 1 more scenario we can do....
We could go Davis (move to OLB), or go Channing Crowder (keep wong on the outsdie then trade up using shaper and a #2 and get Clayton or White or Gibson at the end of the 1st round.
 
royce1054 said:
Benson stock has fallen considerably... He might be there esp if Travis Henry deal would actually go through.

Davis helped out his stock by running that 4.45 40 wasnt it some body help me out there . I remember he ran a good time and it suspouse to raise his stock drastically. If he bulks up.... he could be an excellent OLB.

On my board i have the titans taking Pac man so if he is there it will be a surprise be Titans and Washington both want CB.

Rodgers i have him going to Cheifs their D sucks.

The reason i think Williamson is BPA is because he can step in and be an every down player. He has the speed to stretch the field.

There is 1 more scenario we can do....
We could go Davis (move to OLB), or go Channing Crowder (keep wong on the outsdie then trade up using shaper and a #2 and get Clayton or White or Gibson at the end of the 1st round.
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Benson stock should be unaffected by his ProDay given the body of his work and what he brings to the table, if he falls to #13 the Texans would have to take a hard look at him.

The Titans have lots of needs to be filled, one is protecting McNair, another is replacing offensive weapons at WR while yet another is LB if DJ is available.

I could see Adam Jones becoming a Chief, your probably right about Washington taking a CB but I believe if they do its going to be Rogers.

I would be OK with Williamson, however I'd like to see current Texans WR's step up like Armstrong, Gaffney & Starling and draft a big fast WR in rd 2.

Crowder has bad knees, and I've heard not a good teamate or person his stock has been falling.
 
beerlover said:
Benson stock should be unaffected by his ProDay given the body of his work and what he brings to the table, if he falls to #13 the Texans would have to take a hard look at him.

The Titans have lots of needs to be filled, one is protecting McNair, another is replacing offensive weapons at WR while yet another is LB if DJ is available.

I could see Adam Jones becoming a Chief, your probably right about Washington taking a CB but I believe if they do its going to be Rogers.

I would be OK with Williamson, however I'd like to see current Texans WR's step up like Armstrong, Gaffney & Starling and draft a big fast WR in rd 2.

Crowder has bad knees, and I've heard not a good teamate or person his stock has been falling.
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Benson will still likely be a top 10 pick...His workout may have been bad compared to Ronnie Brown's and Cadillac's, but did anyone expect Ced to run a 4.4?

The Titans have too many needs and they would be wise to trade with a team like Dallas or San Diego...If they stay put, they'll probably take DJ is he's available and worry about CB and WR, both deep positions, later on in the draft...

Supposedly Pac-Man is the top rated CB in this draft...I don't see it, but I've seen a few reports saying so...I doubt he slips to 15...

I look at taking Williamson as a last-ditch kinda thing where if nobody falls to us, we have to settle with Williamson...

Crowder, from all accounts I've seen, has slid into at least the 2nd round, possibly the 3rd, if you put stock into Mel Kiper's opinions...
 
I think this draft is the most important draft that we have ever had. If we draft like we have the last 3 years with our first rounders making impacts. we should be knocking on playoffs door. If we draft and he is a bust, I see us about the same, because of the defense will be getting older faster with our 30's players now starting to get into mid-30's. We need a solid draft on the defensive side this season... Yes WR is a concern,but I don't see it as a priority. at 13 unless a guy is a game changer.. i'd rather us slide down and gain a couple of picks for this season or next being after the "elite" group is drafted, the talent level is fairly equal through the next 30ish players(according to scouting reports)
 
D-ReK said:
Benson will still likely be a top 10 pick...His workout may have been bad compared to Ronnie Brown's and Cadillac's, but did anyone expect Ced to run a 4.4?
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Word i am hearing is that Miami (obcourse unless a trade happens)
would take Brown
Then Tampa would take williams
Then i thought Benson would be a good fit here but i am hereing the opposite. That they might go Antrel Rolle. This will be up to Dennis Green though. I am not up on my Cardinals draft. Their is a possibility that 1 of the 3 wont be drafted in top 10
 
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