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Peter King Wants Texans Fans To Give Him the Verbal Beatdown

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Here's what I wrote at the I'm a Texan Club blogs about this. (all the links in the original but not in this post).

In The Redskins Blog, Peter King makes this observation about Texans fans:

"The fans of the Houston Texans are not passionate. The fans of the Arizona Cardinals are not passionate. I mean, I came out here this morning, and all you see are people who are just NUTTY about the Redskins. They're out of their minds. They're crazy."

Lemme see. The Texans have sold out all their games since their existence, sell more season tickets than the Cowboys and already have some of the best tailgating in the league despite existing less than a decade. King is ill-served picking a fight with a fanbase who derives part of its passion from having football stolen from then and then restored by a miracle.

He wants to hear crazy from Texans? Not sure that is advisable but... come and take it. You don't mess with Texas, and you shouldn't mess with Texans fans.

Given what I know about the passion of Texan fans, he is speaking from ignorance. Ignorance of the facts, of course, is non-surprising from the typical national NFL columnist who has likely not bother to spend a Starbucks-sipping amount of time finding out anything of substance about our team.

If you read his quote in context, I believe he confuses passion for your team with being ill-mannered. In my opinion, Houston is the friendliest large city in America, but we are a prideful bunch, and we don't take insults lightly.

If he believes that expressing personal attacks vulgarities is important to demonstrate passion when responding to the typical stupid superficial things that national writers say about the Texans, I suppose people could do that. Personally, it is not my style.

But people show their passion for their team in different ways. I ask you please to email Peter King and tell him what you think about his opinion in whatever way you feel comfortable. Show him pictures of your Texans stuff, your tattoos, tell him stories, invite him to your tailgates, give him a piece of your mind--show your passion. Please do it now, before you forget about it.

Here's the url of the link where he was quoted that you can reference his quote in your email: http://theredskinsblog.com/2008/07/25/at-the-park-today-talking-to-peter-king/#more-233. Let me know if you hear back from him.

Spread the word. You don't have to write much to him. Just let him know what you think. Hell, I think we should just sic SheTexan on him and call it a day. :spit:
 
"The fans of the Houston Texans are not passionate." - Peter King

You say Texans fans are not passionate? We have sold out all our games since we started to play in 2002. Why don't you visit Texans TC one day before you say we are not passionate about our team?!? You should also come out to a tailgate before the Monday Night Football game against Jax or any other game and see for yourself. Texans Pride!


That's what I emailed to him, I'll let you know if he responds.
 
That's what I emailed to him, I'll let you know if he responds.

Nice. Actually, I would like to read what others write him. Gary can give him the business like no other I bet. And tell him what Texans fans are all about.

I can't give you much but I will give everyone in this thread a rep who sends an email to King to tell him how it really is and either says what they said in general or cut and pastes it here.

If you look in the eyes of Texans fans who talk about how they became a fan, you can't tell me that Texans fans don't have passion about their team.

Spread the word. Let's get him a bunch of emails on the subject.
 
Here's what I wrote at the I'm a Texan Club blogs about this. (all the links in the original but not in this post).



Spread the word. You don't have to write much to him. Just let him know what you think. Hell, I think we should just sic SheTexan on him and call it a day. :spit:


Yep, he just messed with big GRANDMA!!! That boy needs a keyboard lashing, and I'm just in the mood to do it!!:shetexan: NOT safe to mess with my TEXAN friends!!!:bat:
 
I'm on my way to give him a piece of my mind. I'll use some of the New York from my mom. That will get him.
 
This is no Question, it is a statement. I do not know where you get your knowledge but I can Guess, right up there with all the other criminals in Wasington. Who are you to tout your self as All knowing and saying that the Texan Fans are not passionate. I bleed battle red and challenge you to come to Houston any day of the week and I will produce for you as many passionate Texan fans as you desire, I need not even look at another article written by you as I know it is a Lie untill you can muster up enough manliness to step into the ring with Texan Fans. Man up or take your purse and leave the scene.


He did get a little under my collar
 
Mine:

Dear Mr. King,
I saw over at the Redskins blog (http://theredskinsblog.com/2008/07/25/at-the-park-today-talking-to-peter-king/#more-233) you made the blanket statement, "The fans of the Houston Texans are not passionate." I believe you think that because we don't slam you on a regular basis at the Mailbag.

You don't get much response from us because you rarely write anything about the Texans that is worth even an email. The MMQB is dead to us because you obviously know so little about our team and our fanbase. We are used to national NFL "experts" saying stupid, superficial, inaccurate, not-worth-commenting on stuff about our team.

But if you want us to hate your guts, well then, make ignorant generalized statements about how Texans fans have no passion. Generally, I prefer to demonstrate my passion by rooting at games, but if want me to prove how passionate I am about my team by hating your guts, I guess I could do that though it is not typically my style. (Please insert here as many personal attacks, vulgarities and whatnot as you require to prove my passion for my football team).

If you actually care to interrupt your Starbucks drinking long enough to know about Texans fans, and how much we care about our team, come visit us at a tailgate. (Our tailgating is known as being among the best in the league even though we've been around less than a decade).

I volunteer to take you around personally to meet some of the most dedicated fans in the NFL.

I'm sure you will be too busy covering teams you actually care something about. I'm okay with that because that this means you won't have the opportunity to say something stupid, superficial, inaccurate, not-worth-commenting on about the Texans. Just, please shut the bleep up about stuff you don't know anything about, like the passion Texans fans have for their team.

Have a lovely evening (or a really awful one, if saying such thing is required to be a dedicated fan of my team).

more more more emails...... :texans chick:
 
Dear Mr. King,
I do believe an alien must have momentarily sucked your brain out of your head when you stated that Texan Fans have no passion.

You ever been to a pre game tail gate? You ever been inside the stadium and just looked around at the fans in their "fan attire?" You ever sit down and talk to one fan up close and personal?

As a Texan fan, I fly pretty much under the radar - yet - I have a complete Texan bathroom from shower curtain to soap dispenser, a Texan room with autographed helmets, caps, footballs. I have a Texan scrap book for every season since the beginning that I keep all year round - from the off season to the draft to training camp to the regular season. Right now, I have 3 Texan items in my front yard and my truck is a testament to Texan football.

I go to at least 2 and usually more away games. I have more hats and jerseys than I have "regular" clothes. I attend every home game and tail gate without fail. I am pretty well versed in football plays and players and can hold my own in most football conversations. And I'm pretty mild compared to many of the fans I know.
Since I do go to away games regularly, I can say that I am proud of the Texan fans who rarely exhibit the boorish behavior of other fans from around the league. Calling people/referees/opposing teams names isn't passion, it is rude.

Shame on you, Mr. King. You owe the devoted, passionate and absolutely wonderful Texan fans an apology for that little lack of passion comment.

And if you are ever down this way, please stop by my tail gate. This old lady will personally show you Texan Passion.

I just might have gotten a little carried away here. The more I wrote, the more Mr. King got on my last old person nerve.
:texflag:
 
I understand what Peter King is saying to a certain extent. To me, the Houston fans are passionate about being at the games, supporting a winning team, and lets not forget what seems to be the most important, tailgating and drinking beer. But, from a stadium atmosphere of passion, if your not in the Bull Pen or remote parts of the stadium where the TRUE passionate fans are, it can be rather boring. Going to some of the staple franchises, Green Bay, Philly, Pittsburgh, NY, Oakland, it's completely a zoo. Your lucky to walk into a game and not be harrassed. Don't get me wrong, those stadiums have good people, but they truly believe in home field advantage, and treat the seating areas as their domain, within the confines of it being their team. At Reliant, Its good ol' Texas hospitality. It's more of a friendly event, rather than an intense defending of territory, at sports most fan needed sport.
But money is changing the game in the stands too! As backwards as it is, that's just the way it is. The money affect is happening all over the league, as I have seen this atmosphere change due to the economic environment. The "corporate fan", has taken control of the seating, rather than the hard working blue collar guy and gal over the years, in various stadiums and towns. PSL's and luxury boxes have changed the ownership approach, and limited tickets for passionate fans to single game seats, rather than season ticket packages that maintain fan continuity. For example, The Astrodome was just as intense as Pittsburgh, Oakland, or Philly, due to the hardworking guy, being able to afford the games. The blue-collar guys historically lived vicariously through their local team, and treated the stands as their playing field for 60 minutes, while the white collar guy was too important to make an appearance with "lower incomed fans" But as the financial climate changed, and the Oilers vacated, leaving the city without NFL football for years, it has to re-establish the passion that was lost, while doing so at "white-collar" corporate prices and demands. I can't tell you how many times I had different fans sitting around me at Reliant, never getting a chance to know them. Most times, they were corporation seats, with guys that came never wearing Texans gear or cheering. There used to be a time, like cheers, where "everyone knows your name" and the fan was your extended family. Face it, some of those fans are now with Tennessee or even with the hated Cowgirls!
Maybe when we start dominating, the fans will become more intense. The Cleveland Browns went through the same situation, but now you see a change in the atmosphere of their fan base. Winning breeds a ferocious fan environment!!! But until then winning becomes part of the Houston Texans culture, I think Peter is right. :thinking:
 
I just might have gotten a little carried away here. The more I wrote, the more Mr. King got on my last old person nerve.
:texflag:


This is what I'm talking about. Keep em coming. Here's a genius one by Keith at InTheBullseye.com. (formerly of HPF--so if you haven't found him yet, go check him out). Go read the original that has all the links in it because it is funnier.

I Think I Think Peter King Hates Us
by Keith Weiland


Really, Peter King? Texans fans are not passionate about their team? Really.

Texans fans hail from the great football state of Texas. No, we don’t care much for girls field hockey and lattes here. We care for Friday Night Lights and the church of pigskin. We worship at the temple of football, and our temple is named Reliant Stadium.

We’ve kept the faith, jamming the pews game after game, even after five years of Mr. Mittens under center. Carolina couldn’t hang with us on that one, Peter King.

Don’t mistake the ineffectiveness of an expansion team with your perceived apathy of a informed, sophisticated fan base. Houston fans haven’t had a playoff team in fifteen years, yet there will be more than 70,000 fanatics in attendance at our home opener thinking this is finally the year.

Out of our minds? Nope. It will be our year.

In fact, Texans fans deserve bonus points for going at this with such passion a second time around. We were once jilted by the NFL, Peter King, and we still get no respect from national media blowhards for standing up to an over-zealous owner wearing a possum on his head. Yet here we are again, at the altar of professional football, praying on Sundays, keeping the faith. Now that’s “NUTTY”. Just ask Los Angeles. And what’s more, that’s better than just passion, that’s resilience fueled by passion.

I’m a Texan, Peter King, and you’re not, so don’t knock what you don’t understand. Texans fans have suffered like no other NFL fan before them, and we’re still here, as indestructible as ever. What doesn’t kill you only makes you stronger, and the great fans of the Houston Texans are as strong as they come.

Exactly!!!

EXACTLY!!!!!

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

I raise a cold beverage in the direction of this post. :texflag:
 
I understand what Peter King is saying to a certain extent. To me, the Houston fans are passionate about being at the games, supporting a winning team, and lets not forget what seems to be the most important, tailgating and drinking beer. But, from a stadium atmosphere of passion, if your not in the Bull Pen or remote parts of the stadium where the TRUE passionate fans are, it can be rather boring. Going to some of the staple franchises, Green Bay, Philly, Pittsburgh, NY, Oakland, it's completely a zoo. Your lucky to walk into a game and not be harrassed. Don't get me wrong, those stadiums have good people, but they truly believe in home field advantage, and treat the seating areas as their domain, within the confines of it being their team. At Reliant, Its good ol' Texas hospitality. It's more of a friendly event, rather than an intense defending of territory, at sports most fan needed sport.
But money is changing the game in the stands too! As backwards as it is, that's just the way it is. The money affect is happening all over the league, as I have seen this atmosphere change due to the economic environment. The "corporate fan", has taken control of the seating, rather than the hard working blue collar guy and gal over the years, in various stadiums and towns. PSL's and luxury boxes have changed the ownership approach, and limited tickets for passionate fans to single game seats, rather than season ticket packages that maintain fan continuity. For example, The Astrodome was just as intense as Pittsburgh, Oakland, or Philly, due to the hardworking guy, being able to afford the games. The blue-collar guys historically lived vicariously through their local team, and treated the stands as their playing field for 60 minutes, while the white collar guy was too important to make an appearance with "lower incomed fans" But as the financial climate changed, and the Oilers vacated, leaving the city without NFL football for years, it has to re-establish the passion that was lost, while doing so at "white-collar" corporate prices and demands. I can't tell you how many times I had different fans sitting around me at Reliant, never getting a chance to know them. Most times, they were corporation seats, with guys that came never wearing Texans gear or cheering. There used to be a time, like cheers, where "everyone knows your name" and the fan was your extended family. Face it, some of those fans are now with Tennessee or even with the hated Cowgirls!
Maybe when we start dominating, the fans will become more intense. The Cleveland Browns went through the same situation, but now you see a change in the atmosphere of their fan base. Winning breeds a ferocious fan environment!!! But until then winning becomes part of the Houston Texans culture, I think Peter is right. :thinking:

I don't think you need to be an a-hole to prove that you are passionate about your team. Some of the biggest NFL fans in the league have friendly fanbases.

He is not right. He made a generalized statement about our entire fanbase saying that Houston Texans fans are not passionate. Because we don't call him names in his Mailbag because he never writes anything worth commenting on.

The Texans have culled the herd. The people who are Texans fans are fans of the team because they want to be. They aren't fans of just one player or fairweather fans because we haven't had much clear skies. They are fans because they love the game and they love their team.
 
I don't think you need to be an a-hole to prove that you are passionate about your team. Some of the biggest NFL fans in the league have friendly fanbases.

He is not right. He made a generalized statement about our entire fanbase saying that Houston Texans fans are not passionate. Because we don't call him names in his Mailbag because he never writes anything worth commenting on.

The Texans have culled the herd. The people who are Texans fans are fans of the team because they want to be. They aren't fans of just one player or fairweather fans because we haven't had much clear skies. They are fans because they love the game and they love their team.


I agree. You don't have to be an a-hole. But, it is widely accepted and perceived that you should, in order to be a good fan. I have personally seen a difference though in passion, and every visiting fan says the same thing. Fun event to be at, but really not the greatest fan base with passion yet. I have friends that have come from Pittsburgh, KC, Indy, Oakland, NYC, Philly, and Tampa, all saying the same thing. Also, being from PGH, I have seen the difference too. But I will tell you this, no matter what, I support my team, as I have since the beginning, and that's all that matters to me. :kingkong:
 
Here's mine:

Who the hell are you to question the passion that the fans of Houston have for their team? Like most Texans fans, I bleed battle red, liberty white, and steel blue. And if you don't hear me cheering, it's because you're not listening.

I love my team. I love my team more than most fans because most fans haven't had their childhood team torn from them and had to do without for several years. (Browns and Ravens fans know where I'm coming from.)

I've got a picture of myself competing in a powerlifting meet in 2000 wearing a Texans t-shirt. Before the Texans played game 1. My mom gave me that t-shirt. She's as big a fan as I am. And if I told her about your comment about our passion for our team, she'd find out where you are and she'd go there and kick your ass. So I won't tell her. For your sake. (She's in Sacramento now and has to spend her time kicking Raider-Fans butts so don't think yours is going to be all that. Lady's got skillz.)

I haven't been able to live in Houston for years and I bought DirecTV and Sunday Ticket just so I could watch my team play. I haunt the boards for information about which players are looking good in training camp and I rarely read any of your stuff because you rarely mention anything about the Texans. I agonize over things like whether David Anderson or LeRon McCoy is going to be our fifth receiver. I agonize over whether Kasey Studdard is too big and slow to play in Gibbs' system and whether Brandon Frye will be able to adapt to playing guard in it. And every guy we cut to get down to 53 is a guy I had hopes would make an impact on our team and it hurts to see him go. (I really hope that Charles Spencer does well in Carolina and that Danny Clark does well with the Giants.) While you're one of those reporters that can't even get the names of our players straight most of the time.

You're one of those guys that were so surprised when the Texans didn't pick Bush or Young and castigated us for a year and a half saying we'd made the worst pick ever until Mario started to shut you up. And no one needs to hear that kind of crap about themselves but you guys just know better than anyone else in the universe. And, no, I wasn't one of those Texans fans that you were reporting about and saying that had lost faith in the Texans over that. I was one of the people you weren't reporting about that loved the Mario pick from day one (after I got over my initial let-down that we hadn't picked up Ferguson). And all I ever heard from reporters like you was how upset I was that I didn't get The Next Gale Sayers? Well stop putting your words into my mouth and start trying to actually report what people really think and feel instead of making wild assumptions.

You'd be much better served just going back to not talking about the Texans at all because you're just going to open your mouth and say something stupid. Because when it comes to the Texans, you have no clue. Actually, you may never have any clue but like I said, I don't read you enough to know.
 
No doubt about it, Brandon Frye will make the adjustment. They are looking at him, due to his ability to play both back-up Tackle and Guard. Most guys they have on the roster can only play 1 position.
 
Peter King,

In a recent blog regarding the Redskins you thought it was neccessary to take a pot shot at the Houston Texans Fans by claiming that they are not passionate. My question to you is; how in the world would you even know? Have you ever been to a game, a pregame tailgate, or talked to any fans of the team? Most likely you have failed to do any of these. Now while I live in Austin and I am not able to attend as many games as I would like it does not makes me any less of a passionate fan. Just because we do not send you hate mail does not mean we do not care. I always thought there was supposed to be integrity in journalism, but in this day and age of blogs you do not have to have facts to back up anything and you can print what ever you want regardless if it is the truth. I would say I lost respect for you but after the Mario Williams crap yall printed I do not have any for your writings.

Thomas

This is what I had to say. :texflag:
 
I still like Peter King and his MMQB even after this statement

:hides:

But I will write him an email voicing my disapproval. Hopefully Cardinals fans do the same
 
I agree. You don't have to be an a-hole. But, it is widely accepted and perceived that you should, in order to be a good fan. I have personally seen a difference though in passion, and every visiting fan says the same thing. Fun event to be at, but really not the greatest fan base with passion yet. I have friends that have come from Pittsburgh, KC, Indy, Oakland, NYC, Philly, and Tampa, all saying the same thing. Also, being from PGH, I have seen the difference too. But I will tell you this, no matter what, I support my team, as I have since the beginning, and that's all that matters to me. :kingkong:

I know what you are saying, but I thought his shot was overly generalized and gratuitous. But heck, our franchise still hasn't had a over .500 season yet we aren't the ones that have to put tarps over our stadium (JAX). Or have a brand new stadium that we are struggling to sell seats to (PHX).

As a Texan fan, you can't whip out the redazz everytime someone takes a shot at your team because that is all you would do. But every once in a while, when someone says something gratutious, unnecessary and overly generalized, you need to give them the business some. Or else they feel like they can always get away with it because they don't respect you.
 
I still like Peter King and his MMQB even after this statement

:hides:

But I will write him an email voicing my disapproval. Hopefully Cardinals fans do the same


Wouldn't you like his column better if you had the sense that he paid attention at all to anything Texans and had anything intelligent to say about them? Look at the SI.com Training Camp tour schedule:


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/07/21/postcards/index.html

They have some random generalist reporter from SI writing about our team. Basically, some dude you have never heard of. Because we are an afterthought to them.

We ignore national writing about the Texans because it is garbage. They ignore us because the team has only got interesting to watch the last couple of years.

Once in a while, we just need to give them the business, and clearly that's what King wants by saying that he measures passion by hate mail.
 
I agree. You don't have to be an a-hole. But, it is widely accepted and perceived that you should, in order to be a good fan. I have personally seen a difference though in passion, and every visiting fan says the same thing. Fun event to be at, but really not the greatest fan base with passion yet. I have friends that have come from Pittsburgh, KC, Indy, Oakland, NYC, Philly, and Tampa, all saying the same thing. Also, being from PGH, I have seen the difference too. But I will tell you this, no matter what, I support my team, as I have since the beginning, and that's all that matters to me. :kingkong:

TOTALLY DISAGREE!!!!

Who is it that accepts and percieves that you have to be an a-hole to be a good fan? That's certainly not my perception of what a good fan is. I personally know plenty of passionate Texans fans and....ahem....most of them are NOT a-holes.:cowboy1:

And I couldn't give a rat's ass what fans from Pittsburgh, KC, Indy, Oakland, NYC, Philly, and Tampa, or any team for that matter, thinks. If I've got to have the reputation of Philly fans to be considered a good fan, no thank you. Or how about Browns fans littering the field with beer bottles? Yeah, those are really good fans....NOT.

I don't care what city you're in, Green Bay, Indy, KC, where ever, when their teams are down 32-7 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, those stadiums are going to start massively emptying. You want passionate, try the 20,000 or so fans that stayed in Reliant when the Texans were down 32-7 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd, and they came back to take the lead with less than a minute to go in the game. Those 20,000 passionate fans had that stadium as loud as it's ever been, while the a-holes were already out in the parking lots getting trashed.

**Disclaimer: Not saying everyone who left that game is an a-hole. Only the a-holes, and they know who they are.

No, passion is not measured by how much of an a-hole you are.

Who's Peter King?
 
"The fans of the Houston Texans are plenty passionate Peter. You need to come down here and learn a little something about the people you're writing about before you say something like that. We're accustomed to being ignored and to reading pieces about our team thrown together by guys who don't even take the time to get the story right. We don't get offended by that or "go nuts" about it. We just assume you don't know what you're talking about and ignore you. We're not lacking passion, we just don't have the time or the inclination to set every one of you guys straight on what the Texans are going to do to your perceptions this season."
 
A friend of mine wants to meet Peter King.....

louisville-slugger-bat.jpg


He's a big Texans fan.

:bat:
 
Add one more log to the fire...

Dear Mr. King,

I am greatly appalled at your vast generalization of my teams fan base. While the Houston Texans have neither been around very long nor fielded a very good product; the fans have come out each and every game to support our guys. Even during the Capers and Casserly era, our beloved Texans have played in front of pack house. I challenge you sir to head over to training camp and catch a regular season game.
Get onto the Texans bandwagon now because we will be surprising teams and fans alike this year. We are new, improved, young and hungry. We will continue to sell out our stadium, support our team and enjoy arguably the best tailgating in the league.

I'm a Texan Diehard,
Luis
Germantown, MD
 
I wrote him a response. Keith said it all imo...

Here's a couple more suggestions. I don't have time to do it since I'm already running late for work. Otherwise, I'll get to it tonight.

1) someone should get a picture of Preston and send it to King and tell him if he doesn't retract that we're going to sent this guy up there to heat butt him in the ass.

2) Invite the slug down here for a tailgate and game and we'll show him what lack of passion is all about. Have him start out in the Yellow and gradually work his way into the Raging Bull area on a 3 hour tour and I guarantee his next blog will be about the best tailgating and friendliest (and some of the most passionate)fans he's ever seen.
 
TOTALLY DISAGREE!!!!

Who is it that accepts and percieves that you have to be an a-hole to be a good fan? That's certainly not my perception of what a good fan is. I personally know plenty of passionate Texans fans and....ahem....most of them are NOT a-holes.:cowboy1:

And I couldn't give a rat's ass what fans from Pittsburgh, KC, Indy, Oakland, NYC, Philly, and Tampa, or any team for that matter, thinks. If I've got to have the reputation of Philly fans to be considered a good fan, no thank you. Or how about Browns fans littering the field with beer bottles? Yeah, those are really good fans....NOT.

I don't care what city you're in, Green Bay, Indy, KC, where ever, when their teams are down 32-7 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter, those stadiums are going to start massively emptying. You want passionate, try the 20,000 or so fans that stayed in Reliant when the Texans were down 32-7 with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd, and they came back to take the lead with less than a minute to go in the game. Those 20,000 passionate fans had that stadium as loud as it's ever been, while the a-holes were already out in the parking lots getting trashed.

**Disclaimer: Not saying everyone who left that game is an a-hole. Only the a-holes, and they know who they are.

No, passion is not measured by how much of an a-hole you are.

Who's Peter King?


Speedy you got my statement wrong. I don't believe you have to be an a-hole, but that is the perception of a wild and crazy football fan. Quite frankly, being from the northeast,(pittsburgh & family season ticket holders for the last 35 years) the atmosphere is different. I have no idea why. People are just more harsh at a football game, and that is reality. They are "perceived" as a-holes because the harshness of their tone, their demeanor, etc....Unfortunately, fans in Oakland, Philly, PGH, Cleveland, etc...have become poster childs for what football fans look like. If your not like them, then you will be perceived as less passionate. That's all....

But I will tell you this.....No matter the score, no less than 5,000 fans will leave a pittsburgh stadium, no matter the score. It's just the way it is. They are in their seats when kickoff starts and when the horn blows. They live through the team and how the team responds is how the city responds. Just the way it is.:aggressive:
 
I wrote him a response. Keith said it all imo...

Here's a couple more suggestions. I don't have time to do it since I'm already running late for work. Otherwise, I'll get to it tonight.

1) someone should get a picture of Preston and send it to King and tell him if he doesn't retract that we're going to sent this guy up there to heat butt him in the ass.

2) Invite the slug down here for a tailgate and game and we'll show him what lack of passion is all about. Have him start out in the Yellow and gradually work his way into the Raging Bull area on a 3 hour tour and I guarantee his next blog will be about the best tailgating and friendliest (and some of the most passionate)fans he's ever seen.


AJ...What's up buddy. Long time, no talk too. I had to make my return to the site, after a long absence.....:whip:
 
I should have waited until I had my coffee, but........

Peter,
If you would remove Brett Favre's jock strap that you use as an eye patch, OR check your Northeast media bias at the door, you might see that you are wrong about Texans fans.

Man-up and come to the Platinum Lot, Blue Lot, Orange and Yellow Lots before a home game. Then and only then can you pass judgment on the passion of Texans fans.

Alas, journalism isn't about getting it right anymore. It's about filling space with words AND without substance. Thanks Peter for not inserting fact or substance into yet another one of your softball/bubble gum pieces....


Bill
Passionate, Loyal Texan Fan!!!
 
Peter,
If you would remove Brett Favre's jock strap that you use as an eye patch, OR check your Northeast media bias at the door, you might see that you are wrong about Texans fans.

Man-up and come to the Platinum Lot, Blue Lot, Orange and Yellow Lots before a home game. Then and only then can you pass judgment on the passion of Texans fans.

Alas, journalism isn't about getting it right anymore. It's about filling space with words AND without substance. Thanks Peter for not inserting fact or substance into yet another one of your softball/bubble gum pieces....


Bill
Passionate, Loyal Texan Fan!!!

I don't know Bill. You are pretty darn good without your caffeine.

Matt from DGDB&D unleashed a unholy hand grenade in the general direction of Peter King.

Do NOT click on that link if you are offended by all the cuss words all at once, vulgar personal attacks, Favre manlove references and unspeakable things done to people's loved ones.

I don't recommend you take that approach when contacting King, as that sort of blast should be left to the semi-professional. We all show our passion for our team in different ways and Matt's involves large measures of redazz.

Everybody, get your emails in one by one. Tell em your stories. What it meant to get a franchise here. What sorts of fanatic things you do. Short email, long email, getcher email's in.
 
I don't know Bill. You are pretty darn good without your caffeine.

Matt from DGDB&D unleashed a unholy hand grenade in the general direction of Peter King.

Do NOT click on that link if you are offended by all the cuss words all at once, vulgar personal attacks, Favre manlove references and unspeakable things done to people's loved ones.

I don't recommend you take that approach when contacting King, as that sort of blast should be left to the semi-professional. We all show our passion for our team in different ways and Matt's involves large measures of redazz.

Everybody, get your emails in one by one. Tell em your stories. What it meant to get a franchise here. What sorts of fanatic things you do. Short email, long email, getcher email's in.

Also to note: Googling of the term "smegma" should be done on personal time from the comfort of your own home(s).
 
I don't know Bill. You are pretty darn good without your caffeine.

Matt from DGDB&D unleashed a unholy hand grenade in the general direction of Peter King.

Do NOT click on that link if you are offended by all the cuss words all at once, vulgar personal attacks, Favre manlove references and unspeakable things done to people's loved ones.

I don't recommend you take that approach when contacting King, as that sort of blast should be left to the semi-professional. We all show our passion for our team in different ways and Matt's involves large measures of redazz.

Everybody, get your emails in one by one. Tell em your stories. What it meant to get a franchise here. What sorts of fanatic things you do. Short email, long email, getcher email's in.


lol I didn't even get past the Dear **** before I :spit:
 
My message to him:

Hello Peter,

With regards to your rather misinformed article about Houston Texans fans (http://theredskinsblog.com/2008/07/25/at-the-park-today-talking-to-peter-king/#more-233), my fellow Texans fanatics are rather riled up about your mischaracterization of our dedication to our hometown team. To be honest with you, I am not upset by what you said, simply because your OPINION has never meant much to me. I have read the obvious East Coast bias in your articles for many years, so it comes as no surprise to me that you would slander our great fanbase. It is yet another example of yellow dog journalism to write about something that you know absolutely nothing about.

I, along with 70,000 of my fellow Houston Texans fanatics, have been dedicated to this team since it’s inception. Every game has been sold out, in spite of the fact that we have not experienced a winning season in six years and were forced to suffer through four years of horrible management in Charlie Casserly and Dom Capers. Yet here we are, still selling out our stadium, still dedicated to our team, still proud to be Houston Texans fans, and still optimistic that our time is just around the corner.

I would elaborate more about our fanbase, but I doubt you really care. Your profession is built upon sensationalism and generalizations based in ignorance. But should you care to educate yourself about this subject, feel free to come to a Texans home game. In spite of your weak attempt to insult us with baseless insinuations, Texans fans have big hearts and will welcome you to any one of our many tailgating parties. Should you be unable to attend, please feel free to check out our dedicated myspace page, created by the Texans Demolition Crew and devoted to promoting Houston Texans fanatics. (http://www.myspace.com/texansdemolitioncrew)

Sincerely,

Double Barrel Darrell
Texans Demolition Crew since 2002
LOUD, PROUD & TEXAN!!!
 
Mr. King,
I was recently called upon by a fellow dispassionate Houston Texan fan to your statement, in a Q&A piece, that Texan fans are not passionate. I would like to know how do you define passion in your locality and based upon your sporting life experience? Rather than cast stones on your blanket statement I figured it would be best to allow a response before I show a Texan sized ounce of passion.
Some pre-emptive context may be in order to allow a smooth quid pro quo. Therefore, let’s scoop some poop:
• Charley Casserly, Dom Capers and David Carr – Most Texan fans knew that the C&C Football factory was manufacturing widgets that were not ready for production while costs escalated. The 2002 draft was difficult for passionate football fans as we were pigeonholed to take Carr and Gaffney over Peppers and Portis based on Capers competency and modding an offense for an unproven commodity in a QB that would have an immense TCO. Tough start, but with Casserly at the helm we did expect him to supplement his other “big moves” with Boselli and the under the table fire sale with the Jaguars. Unfortunately, this was only before we started our first game and the hits would keep coming from C&C. You know Casserly pretty well, and should have an idea what type of passion he instills with the fans of the teams he “supports.”
• Houston Texan coverage – We are still waiting for coverage and this may be the reasoning behind your thinking that we do not have passion since we have no representative in your industry to mirror the passion that our fans keep in the parking lots, in the seats, on the phones, on message boards, at training camp, behind the BBQ pit and our love for an organization that has not had many breaks in its short history. You know the guys and gals that cover us, but they failed the Texans long ago and now Texans fans fend for themselves in the media diaspora that is today. We communicate through digital papyrus, IM’s, private messages, texts and get together whenever we can, despite the lack of passion of your brethren in the Houston media.
• The Draft of 2006 – I had it right in January of 2006, largely because I, like many of my fellow Texan fans, knew the team’s pimple and warts, cap situation, needs and sense of history. For this, we understand, more so than many, that you have to “go through hell, before you get to Texas.” This is one chip on our shoulder that we can handle.
My passion - where does it come from, what feeds it – the passion, that the dispassionate made:
• I grew up a Cowboys fan and could not stand the way Landry was sacked although it spawned some amazing football in the early to mid 90’s. However, it always seemed to be at a cost with the off field antics and a meddling owner. I moved back to Texas in 1999 to my hometown of Austin and shortly found out that Houston had been awarded a franchise. I am not sure if it was survival instinct, more discretionary dollars available or passion displaced from the cold, mostly dead hands of Jackie Smith, circa 1979, but I found a new home to display my year long passion for the game of football.
• The weekly pilgrimage – My wife and I have been PSL owners since day one. Our Sunday experience usually starts with waking up at 5:00 am getting our things ready for the two and a half hour commute. Most of our games have been 12:00 pm starts, as it should be for a fledgling team trying to find an identity that would enhance the brand name, which means that we can enter the gates at 8:00 am, per the Texans terrific tailgating policy. You should see the parade of rigs that our fans have, not to mention the Texan sized hospitality that is extended over the course of pre game festivities. When it comes to football, BBQ and organization I believe you would understand what it means to flex your Texan by experiencing the game day festivities. We oscillate between the Yellow, Blue and Orange lots to meet a variety of folks who take on the persona of the lots (topography, and geography to the stadium). We then head into the stadium around 11:30 am to make sure we get to our seats in order to make the introductions where we practice one of the Texan “traditions.” For six years we have left the stadium with mostly losses and until Kubiak showed up they were not even competitive losses. Adding insult to injury we had a two and half hour commute back Austin and a mountain of ribbing to deal with at the office the following day.
• The 2006 season, living in Austin and being a huge UT fan – The media once again tried to snuff out the passion for Texan fans, but this time it was something even more sinister – putting the Vince Young led Titans on the Austin CBS affiliate instead of running the Texans games, after going through a great UT Championship run months prior and having to go through the senseless draft VY fodder. Texans on the radio, not available either. Thankfully I have the Sunday Ticket and Texan fans had multiple internets, or a series of tubes, to communicate their dissatisfaction and find places to commune to watch the Texans together. Being competitive and winning more games will always cure all, and we have started to see them picked up again via the different channels.

What keeps me coming back? Passion, competiveness, ROI and the reasonable expectation for any fan – the optimism that comes every late July in the form of a new season and that a new chapter will be written, but with incremental success. Our team is young and there are plots and story lines everywhere that the local and national media could pick up once we start turning some heads. Michael Smith has been the only national writer of record that not only sees, but feels what is percolating in Houston. I recommend you come down and get a whiff of what is brewing down here - to “quote” Colonel Kilgore in Apocalypse Now:
Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Passion, son. Nothing in the world smells like that.
Kilgore: I love the smell of passion in the morning. You know, one time we had a secondary bombed, for 12 minutes. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' Jag back. The smell, you know that football smell, the whole stadium. Smelled like... victory.

You can all us many things, many of which will stick. However, for a city that is Clutch, employs the Heart of a Champion and had its heart taken from it when the Possum King left to Tennessee we will never lack passion for the game of football and our Texans. Come on down and see for yourself, Texan fans have got something that is innate, there is no other reason for us to keep coming back and take the misguided ridicule.


Regards,
Chris Koch aka Kaiser Toro
Native Texan
 
Mr. King,
I was recently called upon by a fellow dispassionate Houston Texan fan to your statement, in a Q&A piece, that Texan fans are not passionate. I would like to know how do you define passion in your locality and based upon your sporting life experience? Rather than cast stones on your blanket statement I figured it would be best to allow a response before I show a Texan sized ounce of passion.
Some pre-emptive context may be in order to allow a smooth quid pro quo. Therefore, let’s scoop some poop:
• Charley Casserly, Dom Capers and David Carr – Most Texan fans knew that the C&C Football factory was manufacturing widgets that were not ready for production while costs escalated. The 2002 draft was difficult for passionate football fans as we were pigeonholed to take Carr and Gaffney over Peppers and Portis based on Capers competency and modding an offense for an unproven commodity in a QB that would have an immense TCO. Tough start, but with Casserly at the helm we did expect him to supplement his other “big moves” with Boselli and the under the table fire sale with the Jaguars. Unfortunately, this was only before we started our first game and the hits would keep coming from C&C. You know Casserly pretty well, and should have an idea what type of passion he instills with the fans of the teams he “supports.”
• Houston Texan coverage – We are still waiting for coverage and this may be the reasoning behind your thinking that we do not have passion since we have no representative in your industry to mirror the passion that our fans keep in the parking lots, in the seats, on the phones, on message boards, at training camp, behind the BBQ pit and our love for an organization that has not had many breaks in its short history. You know the guys and gals that cover us, but they failed the Texans long ago and now Texans fans fend for themselves in the media diaspora that is today. We communicate through digital papyrus, IM’s, private messages, texts and get together whenever we can, despite the lack of passion of your brethren in the Houston media.
• The Draft of 2006 – I had it right in January of 2006, largely because I, like many of my fellow Texan fans, knew the team’s pimple and warts, cap situation, needs and sense of history. For this, we understand, more so than many, that you have to “go through hell, before you get to Texas.” This is one chip on our shoulder that we can handle.
My passion - where does it come from, what feeds it – the passion, that the dispassionate made:
• I grew up a Cowboys fan and could not stand the way Landry was sacked although it spawned some amazing football in the early to mid 90’s. However, it always seemed to be at a cost with the off field antics and a meddling owner. I moved back to Texas in 1999 to my hometown of Austin and shortly found out that Houston had been awarded a franchise. I am not sure if it was survival instinct, more discretionary dollars available or passion displaced from the cold, mostly dead hands of Jackie Smith, circa 1979, but I found a new home to display my year long passion for the game of football.
• The weekly pilgrimage – My wife and I have been PSL owners since day one. Our Sunday experience usually starts with waking up at 5:00 am getting our things ready for the two and a half hour commute. Most of our games have been 12:00 pm starts, as it should be for a fledgling team trying to find an identity that would enhance the brand name, which means that we can enter the gates at 8:00 am, per the Texans terrific tailgating policy. You should see the parade of rigs that our fans have, not to mention the Texan sized hospitality that is extended over the course of pre game festivities. When it comes to football, BBQ and organization I believe you would understand what it means to flex your Texan by experiencing the game day festivities. We oscillate between the Yellow, Blue and Orange lots to meet a variety of folks who take on the persona of the lots (topography, and geography to the stadium). We then head into the stadium around 11:30 am to make sure we get to our seats in order to make the introductions where we practice one of the Texan “traditions.” For six years we have left the stadium with mostly losses and until Kubiak showed up they were not even competitive losses. Adding insult to injury we had a two and half hour commute back Austin and a mountain of ribbing to deal with at the office the following day.
• The 2006 season, living in Austin and being a huge UT fan – The media once again tried to snuff out the passion for Texan fans, but this time it was something even more sinister – putting the Vince Young led Titans on the Austin CBS affiliate instead of running the Texans games, after going through a great UT Championship run months prior and having to go through the senseless draft VY fodder. Texans on the radio, not available either. Thankfully I have the Sunday Ticket and Texan fans had multiple internets, or a series of tubes, to communicate their dissatisfaction and find places to commune to watch the Texans together. Being competitive and winning more games will always cure all, and we have started to see them picked up again via the different channels.

What keeps me coming back? Passion, competiveness, ROI and the reasonable expectation for any fan – the optimism that comes every late July in the form of a new season and that a new chapter will be written, but with incremental success. Our team is young and there are plots and story lines everywhere that the local and national media could pick up once we start turning some heads. Michael Smith has been the only national writer of record that not only sees, but feels what is percolating in Houston. I recommend you come down and get a whiff of what is brewing down here - to “quote” Colonel Kilgore in Apocalypse Now:
Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Passion, son. Nothing in the world smells like that.
Kilgore: I love the smell of passion in the morning. You know, one time we had a secondary bombed, for 12 minutes. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' Jag back. The smell, you know that football smell, the whole stadium. Smelled like... victory.

You can all us many things, many of which will stick. However, for a city that is Clutch, employs the Heart of a Champion and had its heart taken from it when the Possum King left to Tennessee we will never lack passion for the game of football and our Texans. Come on down and see for yourself, Texan fans have got something that is innate, there is no other reason for us to keep coming back and take the misguided ridicule.


Regards,
Chris Koch aka Kaiser Toro
Native Texan

Dear Mr. King,

Please disregard my previous email because Kaiser Toro said it much, much better!!


Texan_Bill
 
Peter,

- The reversal of Mike Renfro's TD catch hurt
- Losing 2 AFC Champship games to the Steelers hurt.
- Watching a class act like Bum Phillips get fired by Bud Adams hurt.
- The Ed Biles era hurt.
- Losing 23 consecutive road games in the 80s hurt.
- Having the “Homerun Spectacular” scoreboard torn down by Bud hurt.
- Watching John Elway and the Broncos beat the Oilers after a 21-6 lead hurt.
- 35-3 hurt
- Joe Montana ending an 11 game winning streak in the playoffs hurt
- Having that roadkill wearing shyster move my team away hurt

- Tony Boselli never playing a down hurt
- The Capers and Casserly show hurt
- The Phillip Buchannon and Jason Babin deals hurt.
- 2 and 14 hurt
- 5 years of David Carr hurt.


- Having your fanbase’s passion questioned by a SI columnist….not so much.

If you want to see real football passion, come to Reliant. Actually, come for the Monday night game vs. the Jaguars. I think you will be surprised.

Regards,

Stan

By the way, I see that you will be visiting the Jaguars training camp this month. Please let me know if they have to use tarps to cover the empty seats there too. Thanks!
 
Señor Stan;960601 said:
Peter,

- The reversal of Mike Renfro's TD catch hurt
- Losing 2 AFC Champship games to the Steelers hurt.
- Watching a class act like Bum Phillips get fired by Bud Adams hurt.
- The Ed Biles era hurt.
- Losing 23 consecutive road games in the 80s hurt.
- Having the “Homerun Spectacular” scoreboard torn down by Bud hurt.
- Watching John Elway and the Broncos beat the Oilers after a 21-6 lead hurt.
- 35-3 hurt
- Joe Montana ending an 11 game winning streak in the playoffs hurt
- Having that roadkill wearing shyster move my team away hurt

- Tony Boselli never playing a down hurt
- The Capers and Casserly show hurt
- The Phillip Buchannon and Jason Babin deals hurt.
- 2 and 14 hurt
- 5 years of David Carr hurt.


- Having your fanbase’s passion questioned by a SI columnist….not so much.

If you want to see real football passion, come to Reliant. Actually, come for the Monday night game vs. the Jaguars. I think you will be surprised.

Regards,

Stan

By the way, I see that you will be visiting the Jaguars training camp this month. Please let me know if they have to use tarps to cover the empty seats there too. Thanks!

Stan, KT, you guys are feeling it. :cowboy1: :pirate: :user:

Keep on keeping on everyone. You don't have to be a poet. Just say what is in your heart. Invite him to your tailgates. Tell him how it is whatever way you feel it.

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AJ...What's up buddy. Long time, no talk too. I had to make my return to the site, after a long absence.....:whip:

Glad you're back. We're still here but we're talking about a different team since we last heard from you.

Some of the 'passion' v. a-hole fan discussion reminds me of Wicky Wacky's priceless in-game PA announcement that went something like 'you don't live in Cleveland' as the fans showered the field with stuff....
 
Wow, after Kaiser Toro's letter, I feel bad posting mine, but here it is:

Mr. King,

I understand that you recently stated that Texans fans lack passion. Let me first ask: how do you even know what level of passion our fans do or don’t have? Have you visited the Texans’ training camp or a home game since 2002? What attention do you actually pay to our team? Like the rest of the media, the Texans hardly receive any notice in your commentary, and what little commentary there is is remarkably uninformed (e.g. parroting Casserly, as if he were still a key decision maker after it was announced he would be leaving).

Second, how on earth do you define passion? Do you judge passion by how ridiculous a fan will act (hint: please don’t confuse imbecilic behavior with passion)? Or, do you measure how many angry emails you receive? Like 95% of the media, you ignore the Texans – why should fans waste their time (as I am probably doing now) bothering to email you or any of the other media who obviously don’t care to follow the team closely?

For me, I judge passion by how closely and deeply a person follows the team. With the Texans, you have a franchise that has never yet had a winning season, much less a playoff game, gets excoriated by all of the national media for a draft pick that, in retrospect, has that media eating their words, and receives so little respect from the media that, even after an 8-8 season during which the starting QB, WR, and RB all lost significant time due to injury, many predictions give them a losing record. Don’t tell me that people who remain fans through all of this lack passion for the team!

I would venture to say that Texans fans are some of the most dedicated and knowledgeable fans anywhere, if only by virtue of sticking closely with the team through extremely hard times. While only anecdotal, I can say that Texans fans I have met are easily more knowledgable and follow their team far closer than the average Dallas fan I encounter in Texas, or the average Jets/Giants fan I encountered in the many years I lived in New York. Don’t worry, soon the Texans will begin winning, and a larger bandwagon will form, including those who know very little, but exhibit the behavior you apparently equate with passion. I expect that then you’ll suddenly find that Texans fans are “more passionate.” But, I would suggest that before then, you might reconsider just how you judge a fan’s “passion” for a team…
 
Are you guys just filling out the "peter king's mailbag" from the first link in this thread or do you have is actual email address?
 
Mr. King,
I was recently called upon by a fellow dispassionate Houston Texan fan to your statement, in a Q&A piece, that Texan fans are not passionate. I would like to know how do you define passion in your locality and based upon your sporting life experience? Rather than cast stones on your blanket statement I figured it would be best to allow a response before I show a Texan sized ounce of passion.
Some pre-emptive context may be in order to allow a smooth quid pro quo. Therefore, let’s scoop some poop:
• Charley Casserly, Dom Capers and David Carr – Most Texan fans knew that the C&C Football factory was manufacturing widgets that were not ready for production while costs escalated. The 2002 draft was difficult for passionate football fans as we were pigeonholed to take Carr and Gaffney over Peppers and Portis based on Capers competency and modding an offense for an unproven commodity in a QB that would have an immense TCO. Tough start, but with Casserly at the helm we did expect him to supplement his other “big moves” with Boselli and the under the table fire sale with the Jaguars. Unfortunately, this was only before we started our first game and the hits would keep coming from C&C. You know Casserly pretty well, and should have an idea what type of passion he instills with the fans of the teams he “supports.”
• Houston Texan coverage – We are still waiting for coverage and this may be the reasoning behind your thinking that we do not have passion since we have no representative in your industry to mirror the passion that our fans keep in the parking lots, in the seats, on the phones, on message boards, at training camp, behind the BBQ pit and our love for an organization that has not had many breaks in its short history. You know the guys and gals that cover us, but they failed the Texans long ago and now Texans fans fend for themselves in the media diaspora that is today. We communicate through digital papyrus, IM’s, private messages, texts and get together whenever we can, despite the lack of passion of your brethren in the Houston media.
• The Draft of 2006 – I had it right in January of 2006, largely because I, like many of my fellow Texan fans, knew the team’s pimple and warts, cap situation, needs and sense of history. For this, we understand, more so than many, that you have to “go through hell, before you get to Texas.” This is one chip on our shoulder that we can handle.
My passion - where does it come from, what feeds it – the passion, that the dispassionate made:
• I grew up a Cowboys fan and could not stand the way Landry was sacked although it spawned some amazing football in the early to mid 90’s. However, it always seemed to be at a cost with the off field antics and a meddling owner. I moved back to Texas in 1999 to my hometown of Austin and shortly found out that Houston had been awarded a franchise. I am not sure if it was survival instinct, more discretionary dollars available or passion displaced from the cold, mostly dead hands of Jackie Smith, circa 1979, but I found a new home to display my year long passion for the game of football.
• The weekly pilgrimage – My wife and I have been PSL owners since day one. Our Sunday experience usually starts with waking up at 5:00 am getting our things ready for the two and a half hour commute. Most of our games have been 12:00 pm starts, as it should be for a fledgling team trying to find an identity that would enhance the brand name, which means that we can enter the gates at 8:00 am, per the Texans terrific tailgating policy. You should see the parade of rigs that our fans have, not to mention the Texan sized hospitality that is extended over the course of pre game festivities. When it comes to football, BBQ and organization I believe you would understand what it means to flex your Texan by experiencing the game day festivities. We oscillate between the Yellow, Blue and Orange lots to meet a variety of folks who take on the persona of the lots (topography, and geography to the stadium). We then head into the stadium around 11:30 am to make sure we get to our seats in order to make the introductions where we practice one of the Texan “traditions.” For six years we have left the stadium with mostly losses and until Kubiak showed up they were not even competitive losses. Adding insult to injury we had a two and half hour commute back Austin and a mountain of ribbing to deal with at the office the following day.
• The 2006 season, living in Austin and being a huge UT fan – The media once again tried to snuff out the passion for Texan fans, but this time it was something even more sinister – putting the Vince Young led Titans on the Austin CBS affiliate instead of running the Texans games, after going through a great UT Championship run months prior and having to go through the senseless draft VY fodder. Texans on the radio, not available either. Thankfully I have the Sunday Ticket and Texan fans had multiple internets, or a series of tubes, to communicate their dissatisfaction and find places to commune to watch the Texans together. Being competitive and winning more games will always cure all, and we have started to see them picked up again via the different channels.

What keeps me coming back? Passion, competiveness, ROI and the reasonable expectation for any fan – the optimism that comes every late July in the form of a new season and that a new chapter will be written, but with incremental success. Our team is young and there are plots and story lines everywhere that the local and national media could pick up once we start turning some heads. Michael Smith has been the only national writer of record that not only sees, but feels what is percolating in Houston. I recommend you come down and get a whiff of what is brewing down here - to “quote” Colonel Kilgore in Apocalypse Now:
Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Passion, son. Nothing in the world smells like that.
Kilgore: I love the smell of passion in the morning. You know, one time we had a secondary bombed, for 12 minutes. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' Jag back. The smell, you know that football smell, the whole stadium. Smelled like... victory.

You can all us many things, many of which will stick. However, for a city that is Clutch, employs the Heart of a Champion and had its heart taken from it when the Possum King left to Tennessee we will never lack passion for the game of football and our Texans. Come on down and see for yourself, Texan fans have got something that is innate, there is no other reason for us to keep coming back and take the misguided ridicule.


Regards,
Chris Koch aka Kaiser Toro
Native Texan

Well said Sir! I have given to much rep out in 24 hours but I will get you when I can. That's awesome!
 
Peter King is not making a visit unless winning and a huge story comes out of houston. Like Mario winning the sack title this year and knocking Peyton Manning out for the year in game 5. Until Matt Schaub goes over 4000 yards passing and AJ has 15 td's and 1500 yards receiving. Until the Texans win more games than the cowgirls and take over the state for football dominance. Just the way the media is. They have their darlings they want to talk about. I mean really, there is truly nothing passionate about the Redskin fans, with the exception of the hogs. The cowgirls choke every year, people follow the jets and they haven't won since Joe Namath said "We did it, We did it!" As soon as we begin to dominate, and we will, let our city, team, and actions speak for themselves. :foottap:
 
Good replies, everyone. I've tried to rep y'all, but the system wants me to spread it around first. I'll be back to this thread soon, though. :howdy:
 
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