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Dunta Robinson (on Reserve PUP)

TexanSam

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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=4417

I'm a little surprised to hear this about the injury: "It’s probably three quarters speed. It’s feeling fine; I could play if I wanted to right now, but mentally, I’m not ready and I still have some pain in my knee and I’m just going to keep working on that and getting myself better.”

I take it as good news that he could play now if he wanted to, but I don't know if that's the real truth of the matter. Because he also says he thinks he'll be back before November.

Thoughts?
 
Physically he might be close to being ready, but to getting back to football speed and getting the mentality to be a force on the field again will take alot longer.
 
I would give my opinion on whether if he even plays at all this season, but y'all'd just think I'm being a negative nellie.
 
Marcus said:
I would give my opinion on whether if he even plays at all this season, but y'all'd just think I'm being a negative nellie.
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Dunno bout that ..... His injuries were pretty severe. I kinda wonder if he will play again at all much less play this year .... :gun:
 
I seriously doubt he could actually be on the field right now, despite what he says. I work in restaurants, and he came in about two and a half weeks ago. He had a bit of a limp and he sat with his leg propped up on a chair, so I can't really see anyone going from "I can't walk normally and I have to prop my leg up when I sit" to "I can play football" in less than three weeks. Super nice guy though. Likes his hennessy. It started pouring down rain right when he was about to leave, and our parking lot gets slick, so naturally we were all pretty worried. We warned him to be super careful, and he chuckled. I said, "No, we're serious. You want us to carry you out to your car?" and he laughed his a$$ off and said, "nah, i think i'll be alright."

Just thought that last part was kinda cool.
 
corrosion said:
Dunno bout that ..... His injuries were pretty severe. I kinda wonder if he will play again at all much less play this year .... :gun:
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Those injuries do require time but surgery is very successful in repairing both the hamstring and the torn ACL. The only issue that would jeopardize his career would be if he lost a lot of cartilidge- that can create a problem because the cartilidge can't be replaced. If you start hearing things like "bone-to-bone" or "bone bruise", or if you hear "microfracture surgery" then you can get downright negative.

Otherwise, if he follows his rehab, his knee and hammy should be back to 100% in less than one year.
 
its not a question of Dunta Robinsons mental toghness we all know he oozes that stuff but to play & be effective in the NFL @ the CB position is what seperates the men from the boys. you always have to play with an edge & skill level possibly unmatched, except for QB, so it puts extra pressure on himself if in fact he feels the pain. this is not good news. if its the case it would be best to let him take his time until next year, be willing to re-sign him @ a discount or let him test the free agent waters. afterall its a buisness & decisions have to be made based upon everyones best interest.
 
That little voice in my head needs to shut up!

He will play again at a very high level; HE WILL!
 
Since her name comes up here from time to time, I thought I'd point out that the person giving Dunta the death stare in the still image on that video link is Kristie Reiken - the local AP writer that covers the Texans and the source of all the AP articles about the Texans (the stuff that ends up in other national newspapers and places like NFL.com and ESPN from time to time).
 
If he suits up in Novemeber, I would be A-OK with that. Anytime before then would be too soon, better to wait than to get him back and risk further damage and miss him alot longer next time.
 
I'm thinking early December. :twocents: I don't think even DRob is thinking 1st game, but he might be thinking early October, which isn't likely.
 
It is unfortunate, but I don’t believe he’ll ever be the same. I think we are looking at another Charles Spencer here. I hate saying that, because Dunta is a totally different case, he proved what he could do over several seasons.

This thread makes me depressed.
 
1560s LZ said in his blog yesterday that the likelihood of D-Rob being back on the field this season is a coin-flip, in other words 50-50. And as far as I'm concerned, of people outside of the Texans organization, LZ is atleast as knowledgeable as anybody in town about the team.
 
nunusguy said:
1560s LZ said in his blog yesterday that the likelihood of D-Rob being back on the field this season is a coin-flip, in other words 50-50. And as far as I'm concerned, of people outside of the Texans organization, LZ is atleast as knowledgeable as anybody in town about the team.
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LZ was also saying that Spencer would be playing for the Texans this year.

I don't understand why people are acting like they know something about his injury that would threaten his career. His injury is not career threatening unless he's lost a lot of cartilidge, which doesn't appear to be the case. So, what's with these silly predictions?
 
I'm sure he knows and expets to be placed on the PUP list. I do like that he feels like he could play right now if he needed to. Work on a recovering 100% and it will be like us trading for a Pro-Bowler in the middle of the season.
 
I think he goes on the PUP and then comes off it after the Miami game (game 6). He'll probably sit out the Detroit game and then the following week is the bye. He can practice with the team during this time without going on the 53 man roster (at least that is my interpretation of the rules). Nov 2nd is at Minnesota and then Nov 9 is a home game against Cincinnati. I think he sees his first time in the home game.
 
dalemurphy said:
LZ was also saying that Spencer would be playing for the Texans this year.

I don't understand why people are acting like they know something about his injury that would threaten his career. His injury is not career threatening unless he's lost a lot of cartilidge, which doesn't appear to be the case. So, what's with these silly predictions?
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Well Dale I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on television....however...you start talking about reattaching something like a hammie back to the bone....in the first place it's rare. In the second place no matter how good the surgen is with their surgery, it is so rare there's not exactly a primer in the book you can go look up the correct way to do it. My key with Robinson is do they redo his deal this fall ? If they don't...he ain't palying and they ain't planning on him playing in '08. Why would they let that contract expire in an uncapped year ? They're eager to pay him 10.8 million per year ? Naggie just got 9.8 from Mr. Davis... I think it is very optimistic to count on seeing him on the feild this season. They're going to load up the bus and go with what they got. The Texan's are prety much caught between the rock and the hard place with Robinson. The muscle was basically shreaded. Rolled up like a cheap winow shade. Going to take a while to come back from that injury.

Bad luck.
 
threetoedpete said:
Well Dale I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on television....however...you start talking about reattaching something like a hammie back to the bone....in the first place it's rare. In the second place no matter how good the surgen is with their surgery, it is so rare there's not exactly a primer in the book you can go look up the correct way to do it. My key with Robinson is do they redo his deal this fall ? If they don't...he ain't palying and they ain't planning on him playing in '08. Why would they let that contract expire in an uncapped year ? They're eager to pay him 10.8 million per year ? Naggie just got 9.8 from Mr. Davis... I think it is very optimistic to count on seeing him on the feild this season. They're going to load up the bus and go with what they got. The Texan's are prety much caught between the rock and the hard place with Robinson. The muscle was basically shreaded. Rolled up like a cheap
winow shade. Bad luck.
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actually the hamstring is a pretty common injury. John Elway ripped his bicep off the bone on his throwing arm and played the season with it that way.

Those injuries take 2-3 months to recover from. It's not a difficult surgery nor a high risk surgery. Regarding the ACL, I've had my ACL repaired and 5 other surgeries on my two knees.... It takes time but certainly he can expect a full recovery.
 
I have no expectations for Dunta. If he comes back as a first rate nickel back or Safety then I will be happy. Uncommon and unexpected injuries in our short history have resulted in common endings.
 
Do you guys remember Mcgahee when he tore his knee in every possible way in the bowl game and came back and played his rookie year. It is possible the he could play at the beginning of the year. Everyone's body heals at different speeds
 
bignasty said:
Do you guys remember Mcgahee when he tore his knee in every possible way in the bowl game and came back and played his rookie year. It is possible the he could play at the beginning of the year. Everyone's body heals at different speeds
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McGahee did not play his rookie season. He was drafted in 03 and didn't see the field until week 6 of the 04 season. :cool:
 
Ryan said:
Physically he might be close to being ready, but to getting back to football speed and getting the mentality to be a force on the field again will take alot longer.
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Pretty much. i'd say more than anything its this & physically getting the flexibility in those tendons attached to his hammy & quad back to how they were before......or as close as he can. He probably does feel like he can play maybe b/c he's back to doing the drills he would do in a normal practice. But those muscles are probably still pulled so taut that if he tried to step on a field & play in a live game he'd stand a pretty good chance of rip 'em off the bone again. if these are indeed his biggest obstacles physically & mentally, he could possibly work through those faster than normal with intense conditioning & be back by nov.

& by all accounts, he says he's been working hard to get back on the field.
 
bignasty said:
Your right sorry about that. Dam I was wishing I was right.
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LOL! I wish you were right too. I have confidence in D-Rob and I expect he and the team to be wise about his situation. It it takes the entire season to get right, then so be it. I'd rather him eventually come back at full strength and not jump in too early and be lost for good.

:texflag:
 
mariokickssacks said:
I seriously doubt he could actually be on the field right now, despite what he says. I work in restaurants, and he came in about two and a half weeks ago. He had a bit of a limp and he sat with his leg propped up on a chair, so I can't really see anyone going from "I can't walk normally and I have to prop my leg up when I sit" to "I can play football" in less than three weeks. Super nice guy though. Likes his hennessy. It started pouring down rain right when he was about to leave, and our parking lot gets slick, so naturally we were all pretty worried. We warned him to be super careful, and he chuckled. I said, "No, we're serious. You want us to carry you out to your car?" and he laughed his a$$ off and said, "nah, i think i'll be alright."

Just thought that last part was kinda cool.
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I saw him walking at All Access, he was not really limping at all, walking a little carefully maybe, but looked pretty natural. I wonder if what you saw is a result of the rehab and exercise? Cool story!
 
The Texans PR staff has got us so screwed up that a player can come out and say "I could play today if I wanted to" and we all respond with "His career is probably over"

Crazy
 
mariokickssacks said:
I seriously doubt he could actually be on the field right now, despite what he says. I work in restaurants, and he came in about two and a half weeks ago. He had a bit of a limp and he sat with his leg propped up on a chair, so I can't really see anyone going from "I can't walk normally and I have to prop my leg up when I sit" to "I can play football" in less than three weeks. Super nice guy though. Likes his hennessy. It started pouring down rain right when he was about to leave, and our parking lot gets slick, so naturally we were all pretty worried. We warned him to be super careful, and he chuckled. I said, "No, we're serious. You want us to carry you out to your car?" and he laughed his a$$ off and said, "nah, i think i'll be alright."

Just thought that last part was kinda cool.
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The "likes his Hennessy" and "carry you to your car" comments have me a bit concerned.

Hopefully "likes his Hennessy" refers to quality vs. quantity.
 
I'm not sure how long it will take Dunta to get back on the field, or if his injury will affect his playing. I do know that what Dale says about the cartilage is true. My wife was a competitive roller skater and instructor. She had a lot of cartilage removed from both knees and they still bother her 25 years later. If Dunta didn't lose cartilage I would hope he could come back at 100%.
 
dalemurphy said:
actually the hamstring is a pretty common injury. John Elway ripped his bicep off the bone on his throwing arm and played the season with it that way.

Those injuries take 2-3 months to recover from. It's not a difficult surgery nor a high risk surgery. Regarding the ACL, I've had my ACL repaired and 5 other surgeries on my two knees.... It takes time but certainly he can expect a full recovery.
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Well Dale let us know when he suits up for live contact. Three months ? Under that time line, he ought to be out there today banging shouldn't he ? I'm just guessing here. My guess is if the eastern Kentucky kid has any positive developement at all this summer and fall, they wouldn't be under the gun to rush Robinson back. Further, the contract situation makes the Texan's playing chicken with his injury....just saying. Just let one sail off into the sunset. Tough call. Glad I'm not the one making it.
 
HOU-TEX said:
LOL! I wish you were right too. I have confidence in D-Rob and I expect he and the team to be wise about his situation. It it takes the entire season to get right, then so be it. I'd rather him eventually come back at full strength and not jump in too early and be lost for good.

:texflag:
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Agreed - we have a window of opportunity that's going to be opening wider over the next few seasons - not closing like some others. I don't pretend to have a clue as to what should/will happen with Dunta, but if they need the whole year to assure maximum recovery, let's hope they take it.

It would be nice to have him back if we're a legitimate playoff contender come December, but not at the cost of future seasons.
 
dalemurphy said:
actually the hamstring is a pretty common injury. John Elway ripped his bicep off the bone on his throwing arm and played the season with it that way.

Those injuries take 2-3 months to recover from. It's not a difficult surgery nor a high risk surgery. Regarding the ACL, I've had my ACL repaired and 5 other surgeries on my two knees.... It takes time but certainly he can expect a full recovery.
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Last night I stayed a a Holiday Inn.......................the biceps injury comparison is like apples and oranges. Elway played with that completely torn muscle for a while, then went to surgery and returned to play in a relatively short period of time. Being able to "control" the pain aspect (drugs in sports are wonderful, aren't they?), it's very explainable...................the strength of the passing motions is almost solely based on TRICEPS integrity and strength.
 
I'm positive that we'll see Dunta play in a Texan's uni sometime this year. It might be towards the end of the year. But I just don't think he'll be the same type of player. He might have to switch positions or play nickel or dime. He might not be 100% but I'll take Dunta at 90% over anyone else we have on the roster.
 
threetoedpete said:
Well Dale let us know when he suits up for live contact. Three months ? Under that time line, he ought to be out there today banging shouldn't he ? I'm just guessing here. My guess is if the eastern Kentucky kid has any positive developement at all this summer and fall, they wouldn't be under the gun to rush Robinson back. Further, the contract situation makes the Texan's playing chicken with his injury....just saying. Just let one sail off into the sunset. Tough call. Glad I'm not the one making it.
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How can you be so opinionated and arrogant and yet have no clue what you're talking about?

The difficulty with this injury was that he had to wait for the hamstring to heal before he could have the ACL surgery... so, add 3 months to 7-9 months and you get his estimated time of recovery.
 
My optimism says we have three good CBs in Reeves, Bennett and Molden. Take your time DR and come back when your ready to rumble. We have a spot for you!
 
I think it's a shame that a guy like Robinson who obviously dies inside every time we add another "L" to our record will be unable to play through the majority of our first winning season.

I hope he's back in time for the playoffs.

And that's all I got to say about that.
 
badboy said:
My optimism says we have three good CBs in Reeves, Bennett and Molden. Take your time DR and come back when your ready to rumble. We have a spot for you!
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I support the Bennett optimism, but then at the 2nd spot we've still got what I would call nickel-backs at this point.
 
It's called Active PUP and Reserve PUP.

In preseason, you can put guys on Active PUP. You can recall those players to active status at any time, and they count against the 80 man roster.

Just before regular season, about the time of final cutdowns, you can put guys that aren't ready to play in Week 1 (but might be ready later) on the Reserve PUP. Those are the guys that have to sit out until after Week 6 but not later than Week 10. While on Reserve PUP, they don't count against the 53, but when you bring them back, someone gets cut.
 
If we all remember some of the earlier interviews, Dunta was gungho that he was way ahead of schedule and that he was going to be back sooner than people expected him to be back. Having heard his statements today. He was quite tentative in his statements of return, emphasizing that he was going to take it very easy, and he was going to take his return very conservatively and that he was going to basically take as much time as it takes. (which would be wise in any case)

A return by the end of this season would be a feat in itself..............a return to preinjury status by next season would be a welcomed small miracle.................a return in any capacity is not a given............almost like revisiting the Kailee Wong saga.
 
....or you can put them on Reserve PUP on the first day of camp if you think they aren't going to be ready on Week 1. I wish the Chron would distinguish between PUPs because teams like the Colts have parked quite a few guys on Active PUP with every intention of having them on the 53 for Week 1. It always confuses people.

If they indeed put Dunta on Reserve PUP tonight, a roster spot just opened up.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Don't expect Dunta to make it back this season.

Then... if he does... so much the better. :texflag:
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My mind is set that he won't play this year. I kind of hope he doesn't so that we are 1000% sure he is as healthy as possible. If he can recover great; if not well...he should call Big Nasty. =<

I hope he's really ok though. DRob is the person who started our D.
 
aj. said:
It's called Active PUP and Reserve PUP.

In preseason, you can put guys on Active PUP. You can recall those players to active status at any time, and they count against the 80 man roster.

Just before regular season, about the time of final cutdowns, you can put guys that aren't ready to play in Week 1 (but might be ready later) on the Reserve PUP. Those are the guys that have to sit out until after Week 6 but not later than Week 10. While on Reserve PUP, they don't count against the 53, but when you bring them back, someone gets cut.
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Dunta has been placed on the active PUP, according to houstontexans.com.
Essentially, all that does is leave open the possibility to put him on PUP when the season starts. If he were to practice with the team and not be on preseason PUP for only one practice, that would make him ineligible for regular season PUP.

So, he'll be do individual work along side the team until the team determines whether he can be ready for the start of the season.
 
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