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Walter 40 Time?
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Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
What was it?
Goldensilence
hipster elite
I've looked at most major draft sites and have yet to see a 40 time for him listed. Strange.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I don't know. I think it's around 4.6 but I can't find any proof of that.
Sideline
Veteran
http://boards.houstontexans.com/archive/index.php/t-90.html
The page for his draft profile no longer exists but found this from browsing through the net. Looks pretty legit from a while back though it seems, just after we cut Moulds. Looks like had ran around a 4.56, cant complain at that to be honest.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
don't matter how fast he is so long as moves the chains
BornOrange
Rookie
I would love to see the combine put an emphasis on timing sprints under game conditions.
1. Each player must wear what they would during a game
2. Each player must run a mile under a certain time depending on their position.
3. 2 minutes after running the mile, they run the 40.
If they could have some type of blocking drill that would be the same for everyone, that should be between the mile run and the 40. That would make the 40 time a much better measure for how well someone can run in full pads in the fourth quarter after running up and down the field and after being hit a few times. Some of these little guys who can run a 4.3 on a track end up being slower than a 4.5 guy who can actually play football.
1. Each player must wear what they would during a game
2. Each player must run a mile under a certain time depending on their position.
3. 2 minutes after running the mile, they run the 40.
If they could have some type of blocking drill that would be the same for everyone, that should be between the mile run and the 40. That would make the 40 time a much better measure for how well someone can run in full pads in the fourth quarter after running up and down the field and after being hit a few times. Some of these little guys who can run a 4.3 on a track end up being slower than a 4.5 guy who can actually play football.
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whiskeyrbl
Guest
40 times really do not make that much of a difference unless you are returning kicks. If you are football fast (good cuts,crisp routes) you will be just fine if you have good hands which he does.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Steve Largent thinks Walter is pretty fast.......... 
b0ng
Bad Hombre
That's a weird site. What are they implying? That white college football coaches are discriminating against white athletes? Seriously?
Here, they create a list of "...recruited white athletes at the "white prohibited" positions of running back (no FBs included), defensive back, and wide receiver...also included players listed as "Athletes" as they generally will play one of these positions."
Sam McGuffie? Ever heard of him? High school All-American RB from Cy Fair, YouTube legend, and Michigan Wolverine recruit? Apparently, the geniuses at castefootball haven't.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
This youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z0oAjljN_s&feature=related
is a clip of Sam McGuffie verbally committing to Michigan on Channel 2. There are other school's hats on the desk but I can't quite make out who all the schools were. I wonder if those schools were on the list of schools named in the castefootball article. (someone with better eyes check it out - the only other school I thought I could make-out was Boise State).
BTW here is a highlight flick for some that aren't familiar with McGuffie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IJ17ODo_s&feature=related
is a clip of Sam McGuffie verbally committing to Michigan on Channel 2. There are other school's hats on the desk but I can't quite make out who all the schools were. I wonder if those schools were on the list of schools named in the castefootball article. (someone with better eyes check it out - the only other school I thought I could make-out was Boise State).
BTW here is a highlight flick for some that aren't familiar with McGuffie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IJ17ODo_s&feature=related
I hope the injury bug won't find McGuffie again.
I sure do like to see what he can do in college.
Where did he go, some school in the big ten? Michigan?
Hey, this time, I'm only a minute late! LOL!
McGuffie's final 5 were Notre Dame, Michigan, USC, A&M, and Florida (the orange and blue hat).
gary
Hall of Fame
Couldn't have been said any better.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am not sold on Walter. He has done nothing to make me confident that he will fulfill the #2 WR spot that Kubes has handed him.
That was basically what I posted prior to last season and I continued to cast doubts on this player and Kubes. I had my crow chicken fried (cause that's the sort of guy I am) and Walter has certainly earned his #2 spot and justifed Kube's opinion. Now I am trying to decide what player needs my help in denigrating his ability so he can become a sure fire starter.
That was basically what I posted prior to last season and I continued to cast doubts on this player and Kubes. I had my crow chicken fried (cause that's the sort of guy I am) and Walter has certainly earned his #2 spot and justifed Kube's opinion. Now I am trying to decide what player needs my help in denigrating his ability so he can become a sure fire starter.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
40 times are nice straight line measurements for sure but there's a big reason 40 yard sprint guys don't make it as football players. Good hands, solid route running, ability to learn a playbook and making a contribution in the running game are what make guys overall good WRs.
Timed 40's are nice but fluff pieces compared to what guys do out on the field every play. We got at least 3 deep that combined have what it takes to make an elite WR corps. One more year for JJ and man....could be killer.
Timed 40's are nice but fluff pieces compared to what guys do out on the field every play. We got at least 3 deep that combined have what it takes to make an elite WR corps. One more year for JJ and man....could be killer.
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
Steve Largent thinks Walter is pretty fast..........
Funny thing that Walter has his two yards of separation when the ball arrives.
No doubt in a foot race J.J. wins....However, never under estimate the value of dependability to a HC. Lombardi cherished that. Shula, and so does Kubiak. Get worked up if ya wanna. Walter isn't going any where. The simple thing J.J. must do to pass him up for PT is, when he gets his hands on the ball, make plays. That's it. Make the most of your targets.
HC's hate loose canons. Until J.J. proves he can be trusted, he's a role player. When coaches tell you one thing, and you completely ignore it and do the exact opposite...getting yourself injured and hurting the team in the process, that's not the bond you want to be building as a young NFL receiver. You go off the reservation, you damn well better make the play.
You have me completely lost, again. Jacoby was injured at the end of a 74-yard punt return. Isn't that making a play? What did the coaches tell Jones to do, call for a fair catch?
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
They told him that if he gets tackled by the punter again, then he shouldn't come back to the bench at all. Just go straight to the stands.
For me, his problem was that he came back too early and he wasn't ready. His early fumbles in that Titan game really hurt but Kubes was trying to get him on track without realizing how injured the kid really was.
I'm hoping for a huge breakout year from him.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
LOL! I reckon he was severely hazed by fellow teamates once the dust settled after that one.
I like the potential JJ has going for him, but IMO, he needs to bulk up a bit. By the looks of OTA photos he seems even skinnier this year than last. I think he could stand another 10 lbs without sacrificing much speed, if any.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
At least we know white kids aren't being recruited at RB, especially by 'big schools'...
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
I'll send ya a map Lucky.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playb...y_by_play&season=2007&week=REG3&override=true
No after 60 yards I except to see him save his body when the coaches told him specifically to avoid Smith in a one on one situation. He tired to muscle Smith on the side lines and it cost the team. Like I posted if you go off the reservation, better make the play. Remind me again Lucky How many more 74 yard returns did he have after that one ? How many explosive plays over twelve yards for the rest of the season ? He was a ghost after that play. He was hurt and the coaches were protecting that shoulder.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Dude! It was the punter. Who's going to shy away from a punter to avoid getting hurt? I suspect you wanted him to run OB instead of trying to run through the punter??
This is football! IMO, if you can't handle receiving or laying the wood you shouldn't be playing the game. Sure, there are times it's best to bail out of bounds......but against a punter??
Were you a P-Buch fan?
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
In this case though, you are talking about a punter who is pretty decent size. In fact, the same size as Jacoby. Both are listed at about 6'-2" and about 210 lbs....
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
nope you're too lost. The quote is on these boards do your own gd leg work.
Goldensilence
hipster elite
Dude! It was the punter. Who's going to shy away from a punter to avoid getting hurt? I suspect you wanted him to run OB instead of trying to run through the punter??
This is football! IMO, if you can't handle receiving or laying the wood you shouldn't be playing the game. Sure, there are times it's best to bail out of bounds......but against a punter??
Were you a P-Buch fan?
I'd also add in that it wasn't a form tackle by any means and I wouldn't expect that from a punter. From what I remember Smith kind of rode him out of bounds on that shoulder.
Really unfortunate because the kid looked special in pre-season. From everything I've gotten kid seems like he'll bounce back in a big way.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Dude! It's still an unwritten man-law to never shy away from a punter.
I'm hoping he's back to form too, but like I stated somewhere else his current body frame still looks to be vulnerable.
b0ng
Bad Hombre
The site is pretty much a racially motivated site and the motivation is that there are not enough white guys on the field. I posted it as a joke since the person I was replying to was making a jab at people who call white receivers "possession receivers"
EDIT: for threetoedpete: wtf?
Go ahead, you can draw me a map this time. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that nobody told JJ to avoid a punter on a punt return.
At least we know white kids aren't being recruited at RB, especially by 'big schools'...
If it ain't UT... It don't count.
Mike
badboy
Hall of Fame
I know you are correct but I think many if not most rookies in exact same scenario would try to muscle past the tackler and get 6. I hated that JJ got hurt but the kid has heart. Hopefully, next time his brain will kick in.
Battle Red Flash
Waterboy
Do not know for sure. Probably around 4.6 at the combine, but plays 4.5. And the way he turns and runs straight upfield for extra yards makes him more like 4.4.
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
I remember the quote....if the quote is no longer up that's not on me . apparently, hard head, someone with in the organization is quoting it too. Kubiak
said it not me.