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Don't worry.... I would agree that Edge would be a nice addition.... won't create a backfield as awesome as Davis-Foster/Jackson-Faulk, but still awesome nonetheless."DD is better than Edge posts"
twinkletwinkle said:Edge sucks. He plays behind an awesome O-line and still sucks. I know what the fantasy guys will say but whatever. He still sucks, he is not a game breaker, he was third fiddle to Manning-Harrison, and he is injury prone. DD has better moves and better hands. I would not trade for him, maybe Sharper and a 2-4 rounder to get rid of the contract but not another starter we need. But even then only to trade him to someone else.
twinkletwinkle said:Edge sucks. He plays behind an awesome O-line and still sucks. I know what the fantasy guys will say but whatever. He still sucks, he is not a game breaker, he was third fiddle to Manning-Harrison, and he is injury prone. DD has better moves and better hands. I would not trade for him, maybe Sharper and a 2-4 rounder to get rid of the contract but not another starter we need. But even then only to trade him to someone else.
I have to disagree. Their passing game would still be good with the Fridge in the backfield sitting in a recliner. He's got 3 capable WRs, and a couple of good TEs (yes even accounting for the departure of Pollard). They re-signed Rhodes during last season to prepare for a scenario where Edge would leave the team. If you remember, Edge was out with a torn ACL 2 or 3 years ago and Rhodes filled in admirably for him. He should still give opposing defenses a reason to bite on the PA. They could still pick up a young RB in the draft to lessen the load on Rhodes too.texan279 said:You are right about that and if the Edge leaves it is going to royally screw up their passing game.
Edge is one of the top 3 RB's in the NFL, the play action pass will not be as effective with another RB in their backfield, he is one of the reasons the Colts passing game opens up so well.I have to disagree. Their passing game would still be good with the Fridge in the backfield sitting in a recliner. He's got 3 capable WRs, and a couple of good TEs (yes even accounting for the departure of Pollard). They re-signed Rhodes during last season to prepare for a scenario where Edge would leave the team. If you remember, Edge was out with a torn ACL 2 or 3 years ago and Rhodes filled in admirably for him. He should still give opposing defenses a reason to bite on the PA. They could still pick up a young RB in the draft to lessen the load on Rhodes too.
JMO but the reason Indy's play action is so good is primarily because Peyton has one of the best fakes in the league. He gets his whole arm and body extended into it. Watch Carr by comparison some time. There isn't near as much salesmanship there.gg no re said:Let's not forget that the Colts run 60% of their passes through playaction..... obviously, teams respect Edge enough to let the playaction chew them up.
If all Manning's passes were PA plays then sure there would be a decline. The fact is that Edge was just one reason why the Colts passing game was so effective the past few years. The two biggest factors in the Colts passing game are Manning and OC Tom Moore. Manning is great at reading defenses (with the obvious exception of NE), and Tom Moore gives him free range with the offense. Fact of the matter is he gets the ball to the receiver when he wants to. He's got a great relationship with his receivers, and Harrison, Wayne, and Stokely are still there so he's set. PA doesn't become less effective when a team can still run the ball. In 2001 when Edge went down due to an injury did their rushing game collapse? No. Rhodes went on to rush for 1100 yards the rest of that season, and the PA still worked. Losing Edge hurts them, but it's not going to be as big of a hit to their passing attack as some might think.texan279 said:Edge is one of the top 3 RB's in the NFL, the play action pass will not be as effective with another RB in their backfield, he is one of the reasons the Colts passing game opens up so well.
He's definately among the best in the league. I think Pennington has the best fake in the league. There are plays where it looks like he's sitting back there four or five seconds before the defense first realizes that the RB they just tackled doesn't have the ball.infantrycak said:JMO but the reason Indy's play action is so good is primarily because Peyton has one of the best fakes in the league. He gets his whole arm and body extended into it. Watch Carr by comparison some time. There isn't near as much salesmanship there.
True. Manning has the best fake since Boomer Esiason. Maybe better.infantrycak said:...Peyton has one of the best fakes in the league. He gets his whole arm and body extended into it...
Do you remember how well our O line run blocked the last couple of games last season?And what would be the point of getting Edge , yalld all be saying he's a bust after the first few games, because our o-line gives him absolutley NO help at all !!! It'd be the same thing yall are saying about Davis but yalld be saying it about Edge !
That is only because of how well the O line started doing in the end of the season, kind of like Denver, their RB's are products of the system...you take Denver's RB's and put them in different offensive schemes or blocking schemes and see how they do, just look at Clinton Portis, his first two seasons he averaged 5.5 yards per carry with the Broncos and had 15 TD's his first season and 14 his second season with the Broncos, his first year with the Redskins he averaged 3.8 yards per carry and only had 5 rushing TD's, and last season with the Redskins he started 15 games, his first season with the Broncos he started 12 games and his second season with the Broncos he started 13 games, you do the math...and do you remember how well D.D ran the ball the last couple games of the season ?
texan279 said:That is only because of how well the O line started doing in the end of the season, kind of like Denver, their RB's are products of the system...you take Denver's RB's and put them in different offensive schemes or blocking schemes and see how they do, just look at Clinton Portis, his first two seasons he averaged 5.5 yards per carry with the Broncos and had 15 TD's his first season and 14 his second season with the Broncos, his first year with the Redskins he averaged 3.8 yards per carry and only had 5 rushing TD's, and last season with the Redskins he started 15 games, his first season with the Broncos he started 12 games and his second season with the Broncos he started 13 games, you do the math...
Exactly. The o-line will have a year of this blocking scheme under thier belt and DD was feeling it towards the end there. I wouldn't get rid of him he's a double threat and was only a couple hundred rushing yards away from a pro bowl caliber season last year.texan279 said:That is only because of how well the O line started doing in the end of the season, kind of like Denver, their RB's are products of the system...
texan279 said:I thought you meant Davis' yards in the last part of the season were all him, not the O line, my bad...
NeViKaN said:Well I like the Edge and I like DD to. At lunch we talked about taking the Edge but came up with another trade. What do ya'll think? Sharper, Forman and pick for Dwight Freeney. Hell I'd give up two.
TexansTrueFan said:well i'd like it if, we hadnt signed walker and smith to contracts. And i dont think we signed them guys to be our back-ups. Plus freeney is a beast and would problably cost a good bit of money to bring here ! More than i figure we are willing to pay him !