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Breaking news involving Marvin Harrison right now on ESPN

Apparently he got in a fist fight with a trouble making patron at a bar he owns in Philly. The guy fled, and Harrison gave chase.

Some time later, gunfire erupted, this guy was grazed in the hand and some broken glass from a car they shot cut a girls face.

The police went to question him at a car wash and they found a gun, registered to him, in a bucket at the car wash.

Apparently the gun matched the one that fired the bullets at the crime scene
 
I think he is under investigation for the shooting...no shooter identified....he's yet to be arrested....so he may or may not be the shooter. It happened outside a bar in his hometown.
 
Apparently he got in a fist fight with a trouble making patron at a bar he owns in Philly. The guy fled, and Harrison gave chase.
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Oh OK, I haven't heard that part yet, but it sounds very likely
 
As of now, the police are looking for witnesses. Harrison is screwed either way though because, even if he didn't do it, under Pennsylvania state law, if your gun is used in a crime, you get charged as well. There is no doubt it's his gun.
 
Also, police have been contacted by the attorney of a man who is willing to testify against Harrison. Not good news for him.
 
Wow..Marvin Harrison getting involved in a shooting is somewhat surprising. He's always been the quiet type or at least that is what the perception was. But on the other hand you always gotta watch out for the quiet types. Anyway, hope he's alright and hopefully we'll learn details soon because it certainly is a very strange incident.
 
ESPN's story:

Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his hometown of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place late Tuesday afternoon, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of Philadelphia's WIP Radio.

The shooting reportedly occurred outside a North Philadelphia bar owned by Harrison.

Harrison has yet to be arrested or charged with the crime.

The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet.

Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun.

Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
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This is really bad for Harrison because he is facing charges no matter what comes of this.
 
Wow, talk about a story I never thought I'd see. This guy has been the standard of professionalism. Where did this come from?
 
However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
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Boy, he must have been pissed..
 
Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
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Having evidence at the car wash you own after saying it was still at your home is not very smart. I would say his goose is cooked but with how these athletes get away with all kinds of things.
 
Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
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haha smooth...
 
Lucky said:
ESPN's story:
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Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home.

However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene.
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Can't say this was very smart way for Marv to go about it.

*edit: Man I'm slow. D-Rek and Spec both beat me to it.
 
From the "How does this affect the Texans?" department, it will be the Colts 4th game when they play the Texans. Will Marvin's suspension be that long? I'm thinking more like 2 games.
 
Lucky said:
From the "How does this affect the Texans?" department, it will be the Colts 4th game when they play the Texans. Will Marvin's suspension be that long? I'm thinking more like 2 games.
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For shooting at someone seven times? Probably a game a bullet (I am hoping).
 
Lucky said:
From the "How does this affect the Texans?" department, it will be the Colts 4th game when they play the Texans. Will Marvin's suspension be that long? I'm thinking more like 2 games.
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All depends if he was the shooter or not.


On a different note: Not sure about anyone else, but everytime I am near a shooting I always go from the bar to the car wash. Nothing spells I need to wash my ride like a random shooting I am not involved in.
 
The Colts and Bengals are working on a trade right now. When this story broke, the Bengals knew immediately that they had to have Harrison on the team. He's their kind of guy. :shades:
 
quite surprising news indeed. .50 caliber pistol is a big gun and for him to have squeezed off 7 shots shows that he was out to do damage and not just defend himself or send a message.

I think this spells the end of Marvin's 2008 season. He will get at least an 8 game suspension based on Goodell's previous punishments. I would suspend the guy for a year but that is the Texan's fan in me talking. 8 games would send a message to him and the rest of the league but anything less than that would be a joke and a travesty.

I would imagine the Colts may just cut ties with him after 2008 as he is getting a little longer in teh tooth and is very highly paid.

maybe the Colts fall off earlier than we thought with this latest info coming out
 
I liked what the guy said on TV.

When witnesses were interviewed, they said Marvin beat the guy up pretty bad and had "hands like a ninja".

On a serious note, I would never have figured Marvin Harrison for something like this.

He does have a license, but the reporter said that Marvin has over 25 guns at his house. I know some people like to collect, but they usually don't keep their collection in a rough neighborhood unless they are up to no good.
 
more evidence as to why you can't just assume because a guy is nice or quiet on TV that it has any bearing on his lifestyle.
 
It is odd for him to display such aggressive behavior off the field when he always looks so under control professionally, I can't imagine seeing him do that. However this reminds me of an incident a couple years ago where he was accused of strangling some kid(s) that were asking for his autograph around the pro-bowl. This is all I could find about it:

"Marvin Harrison Accused of Strangling Fans: A lawsuit filed in Hawaii accuses Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison and two other men of attacking and strangling three boys when they sought Harrison's autograph the day before the Pro Bowl.

While no one has been charged in the case, police did interview Harrison while he was in Honolulu and forwarded their report to city prosecutors.

The lawsuit will come as a surprise to many Colts fans. The team has a mild-mannered aura and Harrison has never gotten into big trouble in the past. Heck, he barely even gets fouls called on him on the field. Whether there's truth to the accusations are yet to be seen; but, that the accusation is even out there is already a surprise."

http://www.outsports.com/jocktalk/index.cfm?JMonth=4&JYear=2005
 
PHILADELPHIA -- Indianapolis Colts star receiver Marvin Harrison was interviewed by police about a North Philadelphia shooting this week.

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Lt. Frank Vanore said the investigation of the shooting outside a bar Tuesday was continuing. Harrison has not been arrested or charged.

"He was interviewed," Vanore said Friday. "Why he was interviewed, that is all part of the investigation. No one is a suspect."

Radio station WIP, citing unidentified sources, reported the alleged shooting victim argued with Harrison at Playmakers bar. The victim left and headed to his car, Harrison followed and gunfire broke out, the station reported. The alleged victim was shot in the hand and did not identify the shooter, according to the radio station.

After the first day of their rookie minicamp, Colts coach Tony Dungy said he knew little more than had been reported.

"My phone has been ringing, too, but I don't have any details," Dungy said. "I really don't have any more information than you do."

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league is aware of the report and is "looking into it." Harrison's agent, Tom Condon, did not immediately return a call.

A source told WIP that ballistic tests showed the shots were fired from a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined Harrison owns that kind of gun.

Police went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison and questioned him about the gun, the station said. Harrison acknowledged owning such a weapon, but told officials it never left his suburban Philadelphia home, the radio station reported.

The source told the station a gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed it had fired bullets that matched those at the scene.

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I would like to give Marvin the benefit of the doubt because he has always handled himself with class on the field and seemed to stay out of trouble off, until now.

Not the first guy I would have picked to end up in a police lineup.
 
bah007 said:
I liked what the guy said on TV.

When witnesses were interviewed, they said Marvin beat the guy up pretty bad and had "hands like a ninja".

On a serious note, I would never have figured Marvin Harrison for something like this.

He does have a license, but the reporter said that Marvin has over 25 guns at his house. I know some people like to collect, but they usually don't keep their collection in a rough neighborhood unless they are up to no good.
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just another dumbarse gun 'collector'. when will people realize that a gun is more likely to be used against you or get you into trouble than it is likely to save your butt.

may this be the first step in the meteoric fall from grace of the Colts. if this expedites Peyton's retirement, I will shed no tears. I would just like for the Texans to open up a can o' whoopass on his prodigious forehead before he retires to Canton.
 
Fox said:
It is odd for him to display such aggressive behavior off the field when he always looks so under control professionally, I can't imagine seeing him do that. However this reminds me of an incident a couple years ago where he was accused of strangling some kid(s) that were asking for his autograph around the pro-bowl. This is all I could find about it:

"Marvin Harrison Accused of Strangling Fans: A lawsuit filed in Hawaii accuses Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison and two other men of attacking and strangling three boys when they sought Harrison's autograph the day before the Pro Bowl.

While no one has been charged in the case, police did interview Harrison while he was in Honolulu and forwarded their report to city prosecutors.

The lawsuit will come as a surprise to many Colts fans. The team has a mild-mannered aura and Harrison has never gotten into big trouble in the past. Heck, he barely even gets fouls called on him on the field. Whether there's truth to the accusations are yet to be seen; but, that the accusation is even out there is already a surprise."

http://www.outsports.com/jocktalk/index.cfm?JMonth=4&JYear=2005
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I was reading pigskinaddiction and not only were people discussing this incident but another where he grabbed a ball boy

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E07EEDD173EF936A35752C0A9659C8B63

The Jets are looking into a pregame incident involving a Jets ball boy and Colts receiver Marvin Harrison today. Harrison was catching passes from Peyton Manning before warm-ups. Nearby, Jets punter Matt Turk was practicing and the ball boy, Matt Prior, was retrieving balls for him.

Harrison apparently became upset that the punts were sailing near him and Manning, and he confronted Prior, knocking him to the ground, according to Marty Lyons, a former Jet. Lyons, an analyst on the Jets' radio broadcast, reported that Harrison put his hands on Prior's neck before security guards ended the confrontation. The Jets confirmed that there was physical contact between Harrison and Prior and said that the league was aware of the incident.
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Seems like hands on the neck was his M.O until a belgium gun
 
If he does get charged with this crime, Goodell must suspend him. The league shouldn't play favorites when it comes to suspensions.... and I doubt they will. I have a feeling that the Commish will slam him regardless of his innocent and gentle depiction.
 
Has it been confirmed that Marvin pursued the man by chasing after him? The early details say this, but the police are not saying it (correct?).

It sure is weird that police have not arrested him. Details thus far are that the gun is his ; Marvin claims it never left his home ; and no arrest has been made.

I'm just playing a wannabe detective here for a moment: WHAT IF a friend sneaked the gun out of Marvin's house and the friend was the one who was shooting up the town? I can see a guy (a bodyguard, etc.) doing this sort of thing, trying to help out Marvin in the heat of the moment. I just don't see Marvin, a precision guy on the field, going on a rampage at 5 p.m. and then stashing the gun in a bucket at a car wash. Sounds like a buddy did this, fled to the car wash and then stashed it in a bucket...and police are tryig to figure out exactly WHO did it. I know the initial report said the person would testify that Marvin was the trigger man...but, this is a cloudy situation, to say the least.

Granted, the other incidents of supposed rage do not bode well. It makes it appear that he very well is capable of going nuts on someone.

This is a career-ender if Marvin was the assailant. No doubt in my mind. This will be a situation of the Colts' front office "excusing" Marvin so that he has "time to gather himself" and to prepare for any "possible court dealings." Everybody but the Bengals will cut the loss and move on.

Colts do NOT roll like this. Heck, he's a goner no matter what (now that I think more about it). Even the appearance of guilt has doomed him, especially with his age and decline in performance. Dang.
 
Too many unknowns for ME to speculate. Nothing will come down from the league until formal charges are filed. Marvin has a history of outstanding behavior on and off the field. This is not a Pacman Jones/Cincinnati Bengals incident.

Lets wait until the story breaks before ending the man's career. I think he deserves that much.
 
Extremely surprising, and who knows what the real story will turn out to be, but as somebody mentioned earlier, in reality - we know next to nothing about most of these guys personal lives - particularly the quiet ones like Marvin.

In terms of the impact on Peyton and the Colts, I wouldn't hold my breath on this doing much damage. Marvin only played in 5 regular season games last year because of injury, and while he did make it back for their playoff game against the Chargers, he had a critical fumble that did real damage to the Colts chances of winning that game.

Even if he's gone permanently (and I'm not making a prediction), I don't view that as the catalyst for the decline of the Colts
 
The catalyst for the decline of the Colts will eventually be too much of Mario Williams on top of Peyton Manning. I don't know when, but that's what'll happen.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
just another dumbarse gun 'collector'. when will people realize that a gun is more likely to be used against you or get you into trouble than it is likely to save your butt.

may this be the first step in the meteoric fall from grace of the Colts. if this expedites Peyton's retirement, I will shed no tears. I would just like for the Texans to open up a can o' whoopass on his prodigious forehead before he retires to Canton.
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This shows that you are ignorant in the ways of most people who collect guns. 95% of the people who collect guns do not carry them or have them in reach while at a bar. Every person I know who collect guns (Including having FBI licenses for owning fully automatic weapons) keeps them locked up. Of course they also have a weapon that is not a gon collection item with in reach if you break into their home. Most notibly a 9mm or a 40 cal.

Guns do not get people into trouble. Being stupid and acting stupid gets people into trouble. Following someone outside a bar gets people into trouble. Having a gun recently used in a shooting at a car wash in a buket gets people into trouble.

Owning a gun does not get anyone into trouble if the follow the law.
 
Lucky said:
From the "How does this affect the Texans?" department, it will be the Colts 4th game when they play the Texans. Will Marvin's suspension be that long? I'm thinking more like 2 games.
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First he has to get out of jail :lion:
 
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