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Myers Traded and Signed

ccdude730

ccdude730

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The Texans are bringing in Denver Broncos center Chris Myers, a third-year restricted free agent, for a visit on Thursday.

Myers, 26, started 16 games for the Broncos last season. If they Texans elect to sign Myers to an offer sheet, the Broncos will have a week to match. If the Broncos don’t match, they’ll receive a sixth-round draft choice as compensation.
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article also says that brown was in town and will visit with the team again tomorrow. john mentions 2 veteran FA corners, andre dyson and fernando bryant, that the texans are interested in
 
ccdude730 said:
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article also says that brown was in town and will visit with the team again tomorrow. john mentions 2 veteran FA corners, andre dyson and fernando bryant, that the texans are interested in
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The good on Myers is that he has shown versatility in playing everywhere on the OL except for LT. For that matter, I believe back in college he even played long snapper. He has the reputation of being like a stump..........hard to move by the D. However, he also appears to have the mobility of a stump..........?for ZB?????
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The good on Myers is that he has shown versatility in playing everywhere on the OL except for LT. For that matter, I believe back in college he even played long snapper. He has the reputation of being like a stump..........hard to move by the D. However, he also appears to have the mobility of a stump..........?for ZB?????
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Hahahaha! I had agood laugh @ this!
 
I saw on Channel 11 they were talking about the Texans and I just caught the tail end of a clip and they were showing Will Smith of the Saints . Hes a good player IMO ......... I don't know what the clip was about , but they said Texans news when we come back , and by the time I came back in the room I just caught that small part of the end of the story . I dunno ....... maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I saw .
 
False Start On # 69 said:
I saw on Channel 11 they were talking about the Texans and I just caught the tail end of a clip and they were showing Will Smith of the Saints . Hes a good player IMO ......... I don't know what the clip was about , but they said Texans news when we come back , and by the time I came back in the room I just caught that small part of the end of the story . I dunno ....... maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I saw .
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I believe it was on Carr signing with the Giants, because Smith got up from sacking a Carolina player.

??, my volume was at mute.
 
False Start On # 69 said:
I saw on Channel 11 they were talking about the Texans and I just caught the tail end of a clip and they were showing Will Smith of the Saints . Hes a good player IMO ......... I don't know what the clip was about , but they said Texans news when we come back , and by the time I came back in the room I just caught that small part of the end of the story . I dunno ....... maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I saw .
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Yeah, Smith's under contract and everything... but man, that would sure be awesome. Oh HELL with it, start the rumor thread!
 
He played with Eric Winston at Miami too. Would be worth a 6th Round pick to fix the OL position that has been our weaklink since Day One (yes I feel that Center has been more detrimental than our LT play since '02...call me crazy)

A 6th Rounder would kinda suck to give up but if you got the cap space and its a friendly deal, then you pull the trigger. obviously if we are even contemplating it Gibbs likes the guy and agrees with me that our Center play/talent level is inadequate at the present time.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The good on Myers is that he has shown versatility in playing everywhere on the OL except for LT. For that matter, I believe back in college he even played long snapper. He has the reputation of being like a stump..........hard to move by the D. However, he also appears to have the mobility of a stump..........?for ZB?????
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Where did you get this? My understanding is that he is just the opposite a typical ZBS OL who is techincal and quick, but has some issues with holding the point of attack.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
Where did you get this? My understanding is that he is just the opposite a typical ZBS OL who is techincal and quick, but has some issues with holding the point of attack.
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In college, I had opportunity to watch him. He was a "push forward" type of player. He had a superlative supporting OL. Last year at Denver, their OL was not the force of past, and he did not appear to be a dominance in the center. His foot work to me seemed somewhat mechanical and awkward. At 6'5", I would like to ask especially Vinny (but anyone is welcome to respond) if he feels that height would be something that hinders him at the center position. Classically you want someone who can take up space and is relatively low to the ground. Are these qualifications less important/unimportant in the smooth running ZBS. Greg Eslinger, before his injury was thought to be Denver's center of the future. He has a more prototypical height of 6'3".
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
In college, I had opportunity to watch him. He was a "push forward" type of player. He had a superlative supporting OL. Last year at Denver, their OL was not the force of past, and he did not appear to be a dominance in the center. His foot work to me seemed somewhat mechanical and awkward. At 6'5", I would like to ask especially Vinny (but anyone is welcome to respond) if he feels that height would be something that hinders him at the center position. Classically you want someone who can take up space and is relatively low to the ground. Are these qualifications less important/unimportant in the smooth running ZBS. Greg Eslinger, before his injury was thought to be Denver's center of the future. He has a more prototypical height of 6'3".
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Well the height issue with Centers isnt necessarily because it hinders them as much as it does the QB that is trying to see over them. That is one of the primary reasons that you dont see tall centers. If he knows how to use his leverage correctly his height shouldnt be too much of an issue from the position stand point.

Lets hope Matt can see over his head:cool:
 
The Texans continue to pick through the leaves. Unfortunately, the healthy ones are still on the tree.
 
badboy said:
The Texans continue to pick through the leaves. Unfortunately, the healthy ones are still on the tree.
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I am not really sure where you are going with this comment. I would maybe understand it if we werent targeting a 3rd year player that has been tendered by Denver and was their starting Center last year.

Now if we were discussing a 30+ year old, oft injured RB I would agree. :shades:
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
Well the height issue with Centers isnt necessarily because it hinders them as much as it does the QB that is trying to see over them.
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Another Center the Texans have looked at, John Wade, is listed at 6'5". Doesn't seem to be an issue with the Texans.
 
Lucky said:
Another Center the Texans have looked at, John Wade, is listed at 6'5". Doesn't seem to be an issue with the Texans.
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I think Schaub is 6'5" too. If an OLineman is blocking at his full height, it wouldn't be for long because he'd be knocked on his butt.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I think Schaub is 6'5" too. If an OLineman is blocking at his full height, it wouldn't be for long because he'd be knocked on his butt.
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I gave this info because, the general rule of thumb for interior guys is typically under 6'4". I was being coy with the Schaub thing.
 
Myers update:
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8565774

A Broncos starter at left guard and center last season, Myers is a restricted free agent who Thursday visited with the Houston Texans.

No offer sheet was presented and Myers was scheduled to return home today. But the fact Myers has already started making visits nearly five weeks before the restricted free agency period passes indicates he will draw considerable interest.

"I'm going to keep my options open," Myers said. "If a team makes an offer, I'll look at it. If not, I don't want to leave Denver, anyway. I started my career there and I love it there. It's a win-win."
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At first glance, the Broncos would figure to match an offer to Myers because they would only get the Texans' sixth-round draft pick in return.

However, if Houston offers a "starter" contract to Myers, the Broncos may balk at paying big dollars to a player who may not beat out left guard Ben Hamilton or center Tom Nalen, who are expected to be back healthy next season.
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It sounds like the only way to get Myers is to offer him the starting gig at C and pay him like a starter, and lose a late round draft pick. He left without an offer.

I'm curious to see how this plays out.
 
bigbrewster2000 said:
I am not really sure where you are going with this comment. I would maybe understand it if we werent targeting a 3rd year player that has been tendered by Denver and was their starting Center last year.

Now if we were discussing a 30+ year old, oft injured RB I would agree. :shades:
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It was a quick emotional post. We seem to be looking at FAs that threaten to "leave" their teams and use Htown to get more $ (part of the business I know), old over the hill players or injured guys we hope will make it through a few games. I don't see Myers signing with Texans but hey, we can't say Smith isn't bringing 'em in.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
In college, I had opportunity to watch him. He was a "push forward" type of player. He had a superlative supporting OL. Last year at Denver, their OL was not the force of past, and he did not appear to be a dominance in the center. His foot work to me seemed somewhat mechanical and awkward. At 6'5", I would like to ask especially Vinny (but anyone is welcome to respond) if he feels that height would be something that hinders him at the center position. Classically you want someone who can take up space and is relatively low to the ground. Are these qualifications less important/unimportant in the smooth running ZBS. Greg Eslinger, before his injury was thought to be Denver's center of the future. He has a more prototypical height of 6'3".
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You are right that bigger and taller hasn’t always been better like the other linemen. Olin Kreutz and Tom Nailen are two of the best linemen in the NFL and both are about 6’2 - 6'3 and also less than 300 pounds. The Center is probably the smallest guy on the line on just about every team since you really want a player with some flexibility with the guy snapping the ball. Being able to get low and build a base is important so long tall types usually don’t play here but I’ve seen some pretty tall Centers in the league the last few years.

Seems he would be better at pass blocking since he could keep guys off his body but would have more trouble in short yardage. I think with all the swing players and limited rosters, and really tall interior Defensive Tackles, the 'undersized' Center may be more rare going forward especially since it’s harder to justify a line spot to a guy that can only play one position due to his size unless he is the best of his position.
 
Vinny said:
You are right that bigger and taller hasn’t always been better like the other linemen. Olin Kreutz and Tom Nailen are two of the best linemen in the NFL and both are about 6’2 - 6'3 and also less than 300 pounds. The Center is probably the smallest guy on the line on just about every team since you really want a player with some flexibility with the guy snapping the ball. Being able to get low and build a base is important so long tall types usually don’t play here but I’ve seen some pretty tall Centers in the league the last few years.

Seems he would be better at pass blocking since he could keep guys off his body but would have more trouble in short yardage. I think with all the swing players and limited rosters, and really tall interior Defensive Tackles, the 'undersized' Center may be more rare going forward especially since it’s harder to justify a line spot to a guy that can only play one position due to his size unless he is the best of his position.
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Well put
 
http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=113059

this is a link to a thread talking about myers. seems a few of the posters really like him and his versatility on the line. they also talk about how he did really well when nalen went on IR.

FYI, myers dad is a poster on the boards over there and this is what he had to say:

Just so you all know..........I am very interested to see what Denver may wish to do, to keep Chris in Denver. If they don't match the offer on the sheet it would truely be a sad thing for us and for Chris. We had hoped Chris would play his career out in Denver. He has just added on to his home and brought his girlfriend out to live here.

Having said that.........whatever happens.....Chris will make the right choice for him and hopefully Denver will also make the right choice for the team.

Wish I could say more but will refrain until everything has been decided on. GO BRONCOS
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i would have liked to see him get an offer from the texans
 
I don't really spend much time worrying about the "business" side of the Texans, so I'm looking for some input on this. Since they didn't tender an offersheet to Myers, does that typically mean that the team has written him off. If teams have a real desire to sign a player, do they not let them leave before giving them an offer, or do they sometimes let them leave and see if other teams tender an offer and then try and top it?
 
hookinreds said:
I don't really spend much time worrying about the "business" side of the Texans, so I'm looking for some input on this. Since they didn't tender an offer sheet to Myers, does that typically mean that the team has written him off. If teams have a real desire to sign a player, do they not let them leave before giving them an offer, or do they sometimes let them leave and see if other teams tender an offer and then try and top it?
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That would be a risky game of "chicken" unless you had an informal understanding with the player to notify your team that "an offer is on the table." Once one team (other than his "home" team) signs him to an offer, only that team or the "home" team has a chance to obtain/retain his rights.

With that said, it's been quiet on the Myers front. He's returned to Denver without activity. He still has a month to visit other teams. I'm sure he's hoping for closer to starter money and more than his one year tender. In Denver, he was moved last year from guard to center when starting veteran center Tom Nalen went on IR. Nalen has one more season on his contract and has hinted that he may want to retire thereafter. Myers would be Denver's logical replacement. I wouldn't rule out Myers altogether since for whatever reason Denver tendered him so low even though they have "groomed" him for the last 3 years.
 
hookinreds said:
I don't really spend much time worrying about the "business" side of the Texans, so I'm looking for some input on this. Since they didn't tender an offersheet to Myers, does that typically mean that the team has written him off. If teams have a real desire to sign a player, do they not let them leave before giving them an offer, or do they sometimes let them leave and see if other teams tender an offer and then try and top it?
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I would say that if he left without an offer from the Texans then it's pretty much a garuntee that he won't come back to us.

Sounds intriguing, but as somebody else asked, if Myers was in the draft, he'd probably go about 5th or 6th unless you're counting his NFL experience. Then it'd have to be in the 2nd or 3rd because he's a sure thing, he's already played in the NFL.
 
The Texans seem to want to add a center, but really are committed at doing it at their price. This is what the 3rd or 4th guy we have looked at this off-season with no takers yet.
 
Good signing for us. What are the chances a six round pick will even make our roster? By signing Myers we get a starting center, something which we needed to do desperately. Another good move by GM Rick Smith.
 
Considering most 6th round picks dont even make the team I think this is a very good signing for the Texans. This gives them a guy that started 16 games at center playing for a team that runs the scheme the Texans run. With Alex Gibbs coaching him up I think he'll be a solid center for years to come (he's only 25 and has played 3 years in the league).

I'm very happy with the way Rick Smith and co. plays the game in the offseason. He's not overpaying guys, he resigned our best UFAs and tendered our best RFAs, and he's signing guys that are low risk/high reward signings. If they dont pan out we dont really lose a lot, but if they do then that's very good for us. Its how winning teams like the Pats and Steelers have been able to compete year in and year out and its why I wish we had never had Charlie A**erley as the GM who set us back a couple years talent wise and put us in cap trouble before leaving the Texans...THEN he takes credit for picking Mario lol!!!

PS: Rick Smith owns you Charlie!!!
 
Before making the trade, the Broncos signed Myers to a four-year, $11 million contract, including $3 million guaranteed. Myers, a third-year restricted free agent, who started 16 games last season, could have been signed to an offer sheet by the Texans.

The Texans opted not go with an offer sheet because it was easier and quicker to offer the pick and execute the sign-and-trade deal.
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i love this signing

:fans:
 
Best FA pickup of the offseason for us imo, other than resigning Demps and Davis of course. Center is probably the weakest spot of our OL and this guy is 25 years old and started 16 games last season in a system similar to our's. If he can help keep the Haynesworth and Henderson types in check on Sundays then i'd say we got ourselves a steal fellas!!!

Who else is ecstatic that not only are we getting young guys that can be contributors for us but WE ARE NOT OVERPAYING?!?!?!
 
RipTraxx said:
4 years 3million garaunteed. Pretty good.
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I thought this guy wanted starter money? Rick must've done a hell of a job negotiating, either that or, that is what starting center get paid now and days...

Anyways, I don't know much about this guy. I do know he was groomed 3 years to replace Nalen in Denver, so if he's any good he should instantly become our new starting C.

Edit: *Plam to the face* it was 3 million in gurantee.... lol I misread it and thought it was 3 mil over 4 years. LOL. Still a good price though, I guess.
 
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