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Combine Coverage

This just has to be the largest group of offensive linemen ever at the combine. Of the 60 linemen who were weighed in & measured, only 3 came in at less than 300 lbs. They weighed in at 299, 299, & 298 lbs. Ten tackles were 6'7" or taller, including 6'9" Sam Lightbody of Washington State.
 
An offensive lineman from BYU benched 225 44 times! Keep in mind at the pro bowl, the best any NFL player could do was 32 by La'roi Glover. He said he had done 52 at BYU, so he was upset with his reps
 
Youngstown Colt said:
An offensive lineman from BYU benched 225 44 times! Keep in mind at the pro bowl, the best any NFL player could do was 32 by La'roi Glover. He said he had done 52 at BYU, so he was upset with his reps
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Scott Young, very impressive but even more impressive is the fact by the age of 14 he became an Eagle Scout (to me that displays great character) evidently though he is very raw & inexperienced, someone who sits on the bench and develops for a couple years until either through necessity or need thrown to the wolves. he is the type of player you aquire extra late picks for and hide them in your depth chart.
 
I have seen Anthony Davis listed as high as 5'10 on some charts. To check in at 5'6 is eye popping. Hilarious the way these schools skew the player's measurements to make them more appealing.
 
Huge said:
I have seen Anthony Davis listed as high as 5'10 on some charts. To check in at 5'6 is eye popping. Hilarious the way these schools skew the player's measurements to make them more appealing.
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true that. its the bigger names to be scrutinized that interst me however, for instance if Pac Man Jones measures less than advertised, if you where the GM of the BOYZ (HUGE) would you still take a chance on him with the #11th pick or maybe wait for him to slide to #20?
 
I haven't jumped on the bandwagon of needing CBs to be 6'0, 200 to play the position effectively these days. With all the new rules in place, they're required more to play the ball than they are the WR. So how small/big the WR is shouldn't really matter.

If Jones comes in at 5'9, 175, I'd be cool with that. I don't think Aaron Glenn is much bigger than that and how many Pro Bowls has he been to?

But I still wouldn't want to see them use the 11th pick on a CB...regardless of who it is. I think the position would be better addressed through free agency. Now if they're able to land a OLB/DE playmaker (Merriman or DJ) at #11 and a player like Carlos Rogers drops to 20th, then I wouldn't mind a bit.

Honestly though, expect Jones to trade the 11th pick. I think he'd be looking for a first next year and a 3rd this year to replace the pick we lost for Henson.
 
DoCt3rJ said:
Running back Brandon Jacobs measured in at 267 today :shocked
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How are his hands for receiving? Sounds more like a TE, supposedly he runs under a 4.6

I know a few places have considered him switching positiion.
 
Classy move by the Skins. :thumbup

That's the 1st time I've ever said something complimentry to Danny Snyder. :shocked
 
Ronnie Brown just ran 4.40 & 4.32 40 yard dashes. :shocked Now I know why these scouts become infatuated with these sprints. Brown just exploded into another gear after about 10 yards.

Clarett ran in the 4.7 - 4.8 range. :shrug:
 
Great find! I logged in just in time to see Ronnie Brown run that 4.32. I also saw Nehimiah Broughton out of the Citadel run a 4.4, and he's a big FB type. Clarrett on the other hand hasn't been running too well.
 
Wow. I'm suprised Clarett ran so s-l-o-w. That is getting into offensive lineman range.
Ronnie Brown was unreal.
 
Ya about that, I just read this thread and it says there is no show right now? Did they take a break or is my comp messsed?
 
Bump. thanks for the links. As far as day two guys go, and I know I'll be blown out of the water for this, but the kid from the Citidel, the 250 pound fullback, I wonder how far he'll drop
and if he could transition to the defense ? Make a heck of a special teamer. 250 running that fast could cause some serious damage. Did you see his SBJ ? Very nice. Deffinatly an atlete. Why didn't God give me a body like that. LOL. When is Well's conract up ? Anyone else see any day two guys they liked this morning ? I heard them talking about Young the BYU lineman as a project.
 
TexSon said:
Wow. I'm suprised Clarett ran so s-l-o-w. That is getting into offensive lineman range.
Ronnie Brown was unreal.
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UH huh. I really do hope Clarett find himself. I really do. What surrprised me was the scowl on his face. It was almost like the event was beneath him. JMHO. Someone will take him no doubt. I'll believe day one when it happens.

I was Wrong about Brown definately a top five pick. Awesome run.
 
Interesting and funny fact about how Incognito got his last name...
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Incognito is quite an offensive lineman, and he's got quite a last name. His ancestors came to America from Italy and couldn't speak a word of english. They get to Ellis Island and the people who work with immigrants couldn't communicate with them. So for their last name, they wrote "Incognito." The rest is history, and this young man is certainly not "going incognito" at the combine. He's got lots of player personnel buzzing about him.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8231444

Here is an up-to-date list of the 20 players trying out at different positions. Eighteen of them are defensive linemen also working out as a linebacker:

Jonathan Babineaux, Iowa
Vincent Burns, Kentucky
Dan Cody, Oklahoma
Trent Cole, Cincinnati
Chauncey Davis, Florida State
Andre Frazier, Cincinnati
Johnathan Goddard, Marshall
Erasmus James, Wisconsin
Khari Long, Baylor
David McMillan, Kansas
Shawne Merriman, Maryland
Eric Moore, Florida State
David Pollack, Georgia
Ryan Riddle, Cal
matt Roth, Iowa
Justin Tuck, Notre Dame
Demarcus Ware, Troy
Jonathan Welsh, Wisconsin

And two are other players at other positions:

Matt Jones, Arkansas (QB and WR)
Antonio Perkins, Oklahoma (DB and WR)
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In discussions in the Convention Center hallway, it appears one really strong position this year that hasn’t been played up much is center. “It’s the best crop in years,” one respected Combine veteran said, “and with all the 3-4 defenses, that could be significant.” Crennel supported that assumption Friday when he talked about the key to the 3-4 scheme, which he employed so effectively as the Patriots’ defensive coordinator. “You have to be good inside,” Crennel said. “Just like in baseball, where you have to be strong up the middle, you’ve got to get the job done at nose tackle, inside linebacker and safety. When you have good players there, it makes the conversion a lot easier.”
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http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Scouting+Combine/2005/cmbnotebook022605.htm
 
Defensive end Marcus Spears of LSU, whose stock rose dramatically because of his strong practices preceding the Senior Bowl all-star game, suffered a minor knee injury during his preparations for the combine. As a result, Spears will not work out, and some teams feel he might need minor arthroscopic surgery. Spears still insisted Saturday that he will be ready for his on-campus workout next month.
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ESPN.com


Wonder if this will hurt his stock?
 
Shaun Cody weighed in at 270! :dontknowa
I thought he would be a good consolation prize if Spears was off the board, but that is just too light for a 3-4 end. I don't think he is athletic enough to transition to an OLB, either. Oh well.
Matt Roth weighed in heavier than I expected at 279. He is probably best suited for a 4-3 end.

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TexSon said:
Shaun Cody weighed in at 270! :dontknowa
I thought he would be a good consolation prize if Spears was off the board, but that is just too light for a 3-4 end. I don't think he is athletic enough to transition to an OLB, either. Oh well.
Matt Roth weighed in heavier than I expected at 279. He is probably best suited for a 4-3 end.

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Agrred, I think Roth and Pollock will fall into this range also. Not saying they are not going to be fine pros. They are. Just not in a 3-4. I really like Roth alot too. Wonder if Roth ends up in Chicago ?


Just saw where Bass posted a 5.02. Pretty dang quick for a gaurd/center. Course the numbers don't mean nothing. If D.J.'s not there, I have NO problem with moving down and getting this guy. Ain't a sexy pick, but it moves us one step closer to catching the Colts.

Mark Peerman down as a day two running back that fits us. WCO guy. Not a sexy pick but if Hollings can't come around he'd be a nice fit on the team. Love DD, Just not as a 25 touch a game back.
 
"Shawne Merriman DE Maryland 6'4 272"
Based upon this weight, apparently this guy wants to stay @ DE and discourage anybody from drafting him to play as an OLB in the 3-4 as many have speculated.
 
Im running it fine and I don't use IE. You need to upgrade something.

A&M's Terrance Murphy 4.45, and the Hampton WR (Jerome Mathis) just busted out a 4.32 and a 4.31 on his second attempt.

WR Mike Williams actually ran. 4.61 @ 229 pounds
Troy Williamson ran right after him with a 4.38
 
Vinny said:
Im running it fine and I don't use IE. You need to upgrade something.

A&M's Terrance Murphy 4.45, and the Hampton WR (Jerome Mathis) just busted out a 4.32 and a 4.31 on his second attempt.

WR Mike Williams actually ran. 4.61 @ 229 pounds
Troy Williamson ran right after him with a 4.38
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I have been high on WR Jerome Mathis since watching him in the Gridiron Classic, and thought he'd be a good pick for us in the 2nd round. Here is a quote about Mathis from Gil Brandt's article on the combine.
Our fivesome believes that Hampton's Jerome Mathis, who ran somewhere between 4.25 and 4.29 in the 40, ran the fastest 40 in the history of the combine. We think Deion Sanders ran something like 4.28 when he was at the combine over 10 years ago, so Mathis is extremely close to being one of the fastest people at the combine. He made himself some money because he also did a good job in receiving drills.
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Another WR that impressed me at the combine was Vincent Jackson of Northern Colorado. He is 6'5 to 6'6 and was weighed in at about 240 lbs. I don't remember what his 40 time was, but it wasn't bad, and he looked pretty good in the drills.
 
The WR I really like is Clayton from the Sooners and I hope we somehow get a
shot at him since I know were looking for a #2 to compliment AJ. I think after Braylon Edwards, he's the best available wide receiver.
Williams was not only slow in his 40s (for a big time WR), but he wasn't quick looking either and looks more like a TE than WR. Afterall, AJ is almost as big as MJ and and he has both foot speed and quickness. Williamson has the look of a Track guy first, then a football player.
They're gonna have to get some consistancy in these 40 times because there is such a disparity between unofficial times (which are probably all hand held times), and official (which are electronic). I'm guessing that D.Sanders time was hand held since it was so long ago.
 
AJ is 3-4 inches shorter than Mike and 30 lbs lighter, there were much smaller guys running 40's slower than Williams. You dont play football running 40 yards in one direction, he is going to be a dominate receiver. They were saying during the telecast that the Bucs rookie receiver Clayton ran a 4.65, which was slower than Williams and he led his team and all other rookies in catches, yards, touchdowns etc.
 
nunusguy said:
The WR I really like is Clayton from the Sooners and I hope we somehow get a
shot at him since I know were looking for a #2 to compliment AJ. I think after Braylon Edwards, he's the best available wide receiver.
Williams was not only slow in his 40s (for a big time WR), but he wasn't quick looking either and looks more like a TE than WR. Afterall, AJ is almost as big as MJ and and he has both foot speed and quickness. Williamson has the look of a Track guy first, then a football player.
They're gonna have to get some consistancy in these 40 times because there is such a disparity between unofficial times (which are probably all hand held times), and official (which are electronic). I'm guessing that D.Sanders time was hand held since it was so long ago.
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People talked about Mike Williams moving to TE for a while his sophomore year. I personally dont see it. He's gotta get WAYYYYYYYY bigger and thicker to even think about making the transition there.Even if he doesnt have the blazing speed you want out of a deep post guy, he's got the mitts to be an extremely solid possesion reciever. His hands are unreal.
 
Mike Williams is just at 6'5, Andre Johnson is a little above 6'2. So 2 or 3 inches..... Johnson weighs about what, 220 atleast. So about a 10 pound difference.
 
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