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LZ Report Draft Show....

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I'm sorry to use this forum to promote my show, but I wanted to make sure you guys knew about it so that you wouldn't miss the first airing tonight since you guys are interested in the draft.

The show is the "Z Report Draft Show" and it is on 1560 AM from 6 to 7 PM every Thursday starting tonight.

If you have any issues with hearing it over the air, we will also stream it at 1560thegame.com. All you have to do is click "Listen Live".

If you want to stream in on your phone (provided you have Windows Media Player), you can click here: http://wmc2.liquidcompass.cc/KGOW

The first two or three shows will be taped, but the ones after that will be live and we will be taking calls and emails so I'm hoping you guys will be interested in listening and participating whether you live in Houston or not.

Today's Topics:

- Area (Texas) Draft Prospects
- QB Ratings
- Players who might be most effected by the combine
- Texans Needs
- Recent Franchise Tags


I've taken up enough space so thanks for your consideration. Now back to discussing Jonathan Stewart and "ZBS".
 
Lance, thanks for coming to our little corner of the internet.

Please feel free to stop by when ever, and thanks for answering all of our questions in Chron's draft chat earlier this week.
 
LZ said:
- Area (Texas) Draft Prospects
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I think as many as 6 local college products could go in the top 3 rounds:

Jamaal Charles - RB - UT (early 2nd)
Donnie Avery - WR - UH (mid 2nd)
Limas Sweed - WR - UT (mid 2nd)
Martellus Bennett - TE - A&M (late 2nd)
Frank Okam - DT - UT (3rd)
Red Bryant - DT - A&M (3rd)

The top Texas HS players in the draft are Kansas CB Aqib Talib and OU WR Malcolm Kelly, both probable mid 1st round picks.
 
Lucky said:
I think as many as 6 local college products could go in the top 3 rounds:

Jamaal Charles - RB - UT (early 2nd)
Donnie Avery - WR - UH (mid 2nd)
Limas Sweed - WR - UT (mid 2nd)
Martellus Bennett - TE - A&M (late 2nd)
Frank Okam - DT - UT (3rd)
Red Bryant - DT - A&M (3rd)

The top Texas HS players in the draft are Kansas CB Aqib Talib and OU WR Malcolm Kelly, both probable mid 1st round picks.
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I would probably disagree on Okam and Bryant going in the top 3 rounds, but with their size, you never know. If Sweed runs well, he'll go in the 1st. Jermichael Finley is a wild-card in this draft because some teams hate him and some like him. I've heard he's not as athletic as everyone expects so I'm interested to see where his numbers end up this week.
 
Welcome to the board LZ. Will make sure to tune in. Anyway, I thought Martellus Bennett was a sure fire first rounder.
 
Nawzer said:
Welcome to the board LZ. Will make sure to tune in. Anyway, I thought Martellus Bennett was a sure fire first rounder.
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You have to be a pretty special tight end to go in the first. He'll probably be in the 2nd and no later than the 3rd.
 
LZ said:
I would probably disagree on Okam and Bryant going in the top 3 rounds, but with their size, you never know. If Sweed runs well, he'll go in the 1st. Jermichael Finley is a wild-card in this draft because some teams hate him and some like him. I've heard he's not as athletic as everyone expects so I'm interested to see where his numbers end up this week.
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Finley is a physical freak. He will wreck shop at the combine.

Just dont put a blocking dummy in front of him. That's where teams will be scared off.




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Am I in the minority in thinking that Martel Van Zant will be drafted late on day 2?

I'm thinking that I am, but since we're talking about players with Texas roots I thought I'd bring him up.
 
Lucky said:
I think as many as 6 local college products could go in the top 3 rounds:

Jamaal Charles - RB - UT (early 2nd)
Donnie Avery - WR - UH (mid 2nd)
Limas Sweed - WR - UT (mid 2nd)
Martellus Bennett - TE - A&M (late 2nd)
Frank Okam - DT - UT (3rd)
Red Bryant - DT - A&M (3rd)

The top Texas HS players in the draft are Kansas CB Aqib Talib and OU WR Malcolm Kelly, both probable mid 1st round picks.
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No Tony Hills in the first 3 rounds.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I think it must depend on how he's recovering from his fractured fibula he suffered 3 months ago.
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He was 6'5 / 315 today so I'm sure teams are very happy to see that he's been able to keep his weight in check since he is one of the better athletes at tackle in this draft with that kind of size.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Am I in the minority in thinking that Martel Van Zant will be drafted late on day 2?

I'm thinking that I am, but since we're talking about players with Texas roots I thought I'd bring him up.
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The kid is a player, that's for sure.

But the fact that he is deaf is gonna scare some teams off. Whether it should, is debatable, but it will.
 
Hey Lance, long time..well you know. Enjoyed you on previous radio show and try to get you on 1560 in morning. Do you still have email address on Harris the guy that used to do college evals? I exchanged emails with him semi-frequently but last one I sent in late 2007 did not go through. Pretty knowledgeable guy. Welcome to this MB. Look forward to blasting ideas off you.

Steve in El Lago
 
badboy said:
... Do you still have email address on Harris the guy that used to do college evals? I exchanged emails with him semi-frequently but last one I sent in late 2007 did not go through. Pretty knowledgeable guy...
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John Harris works at the station with LZ. He co-hosts the afternoon show with Sean of Cablanasian fame. Go to their website and you can find their contact info there.

http://1560thegame.com/page9_sub.php?id=82

They were talking about replaying the draft show tonight at 6. Not sure if they were serious or not.
 
aj. said:
John Harris works at the station with LZ. He co-hosts the afternoon show with Sean of Cablanasian fame. Go to their website and you can find their contact info there.

http://1560thegame.com/page9_sub.php?id=82

They were talking about replaying the draft show tonight at 6. Not sure if they were serious or not.
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Hey, thanks aj. John Harris is a good guy and even when busy responded to my questions with patience and grace.
 
Whoa, Lance it's gonna be great to have you here, especially with draft coming up. I know a lot of us read and comment on your blog, so it's cool that you're going to find some time to post here as well.
 
LZ said:
Jermichael Finley is a wild-card in this draft because some teams hate him and some like him. I've heard he's not as athletic as everyone expects so I'm interested to see where his numbers end up this week.
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Wow.

These are not official.

But I'm hearing reports that Finley only jumped 27 & a half in the vertical (If you dont think that is bad, I did that in high school).

And his 40 was in the mid 4.8s

Just a terrible day for him. Apparently, he was in a bad mood all day & seemed completely uninterested in being there.
 
bah007 said:
Wow.

These are not official.

But I'm hearing reports that Finley only jumped 27 & a half in the vertical (If you dont think that is bad, I did that in high school).

And his 40 was in the mid 4.8s

Just a terrible day for him. Apparently, he was in a bad mood all day & seemed completely uninterested in being there.
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I watched it . Mayock was ranting about him before he ran , then said he looked faster on tape . They used the first half of the Sooners game as a reference of his talent .

The Purdue guy Dustin Keller stole the show folllowed by Brad Cottam the 6'7 guy from Tenessee . The MSU guy Kellen Davis I think looked real good also .
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I watched it . Mayock was ranting about him before he ran , then said he looked faster on tape . They used the first half of the Sooners game as a reference of his talent .

The Purdue guy Dustin Keller stole the show folllowed by Brad Cottam the 6'7 guy from Tenessee . The MSU guy Kellen Davis I think looked real good also .
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Keller & Davis will be steals on day two.
 
bah007 said:
Keller & Davis will be steals on day two.
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They did'nt have a Kellen Winslow jr or a the workout king that went to the 9ers but it seemed to be a very deep class of TE .

It would'nt surprise me if the Texans drafted one in the later rounds based on being the BPA .
 
TexansSeminole said:
I've seen Davis play, he is a good player. Judging from this performance today, Keller has 1st round TE measurables. How is his production?
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68 catches, 881 yds, & 7 TDs. Those stats might be misleading though cuz they throw, a lot.

Keller could have gone from the 3rd or 4th round to the 2nd round today.
 
LZ!!! Great to have you on this board! I'm a big fan of you and Granato. So glad you guys are back. Keep up the great work.

And tell SEC Fan to come to the cotillion----we're serving mint juleps!
 
badboy said:
Hey Lance, long time..well you know. Enjoyed you on previous radio show and try to get you on 1560 in morning. Do you still have email address on Harris the guy that used to do college evals? I exchanged emails with him semi-frequently but last one I sent in late 2007 did not go through. Pretty knowledgeable guy. Welcome to this MB. Look forward to blasting ideas off you.

Steve in El Lago
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Harris hosts the afternoon show on 1560 and you can find him at seanandjohn@1560thegame.com
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
I watched it . Mayock was ranting about him before he ran , then said he looked faster on tape . They used the first half of the Sooners game as a reference of his talent .

The Purdue guy Dustin Keller stole the show folllowed by Brad Cottam the 6'7 guy from Tenessee . The MSU guy Kellen Davis I think looked real good also .
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My buddy who scouts this area has been telling me that he wasn't as good an athlete as everyone was saying and when I told him that Mayock had him in the top 5 before the combine he said "He must hate TEs who block. It doesn't matter because he won't be in his top 5 after the combine because he won't test like Mayock or anyone else expects."
 
Did you guys see some of Zuttah's (Rutgers RT) numbers? I thought he looked good but inconsistent at the Shrine practices. Rutgers runs almost nothing but zone so he might be a late round guy the Texans look at or maybe even a potential guard.
 
LZ said:
Did you guys see some of Zuttah's (Rutgers RT) numbers? I thought he looked good but inconsistent at the Shrine practices. Rutgers runs almost nothing but zone so he might be a late round guy the Texans look at or maybe even a potential guard.
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like your thinking just the type of devalued versatile lineman that can play both positions for Gibbs style, where as Chris Williams stock is soaring :snobord: thanks for reminding us there are other good prospects who can help this OL deeper into the draft :cool:
 
LZ said:
Did you guys see some of Zuttah's (Rutgers RT) numbers? I thought he looked good but inconsistent at the Shrine practices. Rutgers runs almost nothing but zone so he might be a late round guy the Texans look at or maybe even a potential guard.
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It brings up the question: which of our linemen aren't going to be able to make it under Gibbs? Are bigger guys like Studdard and Spencer going to be out? After this performance in the combine, how late is Zuttah going to be available?

The guy that made me go "who? what? where?" was Heath Benedict. I don't follow college ball so I don't know all these guys like a lot of the posters here but NEWBERRY? What the heck is NEWBERRY? And this guy was initially at Tennessee and had some sort of academic problems? Is this guy a workout warrior or is he for real?

And is Cody Wallace a possibility at center? He tested pretty good (4 top 5's) even though the book on him says he's not mobile.
 
Welcome to the board LZ. Have a question for you. As far as late rd.(4,5,6) RB's go, do you think the Texans might have any interest in Xavier Omon out of NW Missouri State ?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
It brings up the question: which of our linemen aren't going to be able to make it under Gibbs? Are bigger guys like Studdard and Spencer going to be out? After this performance in the combine, how late is Zuttah going to be available?

The guy that made me go "who? what? where?" was Heath Benedict. I don't follow college ball so I don't know all these guys like a lot of the posters here but NEWBERRY? What the heck is NEWBERRY? And this guy was initially at Tennessee and had some sort of academic problems? Is this guy a workout warrior or is he for real?

And is Cody Wallace a possibility at center? He tested pretty good (4 top 5's) even though the book on him says he's not mobile.
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I've been talking about Benedict. He was on my first big board this year as well as being in my first proposed mock draft. Newberry had him playing at OT, but I and many others feel he is better suited for OG in the NFL. Same with Brandon Alberts. Benedict is a top 3 or 4 OG at least IMO.
 
I want to give props to John Harris who does college evals for 1560 The Game on a. m. radio in Houston. I have interacted with John for a couple years and listen to his input on 610 radio before he took a role with the new sport talk station. He is a very knowledgeable dude that you can talk to. He will fit in well with John and Lance on the new station and does respond to his emails.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
It brings up the question: which of our linemen aren't going to be able to make it under Gibbs? Are bigger guys like Studdard and Spencer going to be out? After this performance in the combine, how late is Zuttah going to be available?

The guy that made me go "who? what? where?" was Heath Benedict. I don't follow college ball so I don't know all these guys like a lot of the posters here but NEWBERRY? What the heck is NEWBERRY? And this guy was initially at Tennessee and had some sort of academic problems? Is this guy a workout warrior or is he for real?

And is Cody Wallace a possibility at center? He tested pretty good (4 top 5's) even though the book on him says he's not mobile.
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I don't think Zuttah's stock is going to rise more than a round at most. What you see is what you get with him and he's still going to be a later round pick, but he's the type of guy who Gibbs would probably want the Texans to look at. As for Benedict he's a good athlete and pretty solid but I think some here on the message boards are going a little overboard when talking about him. Wallace will have to play center, but he still needs to get stronger and he needs to play with a better pad level. He was WAY too high at the SR. Bowl and guys were getting under him and pushing him around all week.

Jeff Otah's stock is moving on up while some teams are moving Chris Williams down because of those short arms. I still dont' think Williams gets past the likes of Denver, Chicago and Arizona and makes it all the way to 18.
 
badboy said:
I want to give props to John Harris who does college evals for 1560 The Game on a. m. radio in Houston. I have interacted with John for a couple years and listen to his input on 610 radio before he took a role with the new sport talk station. He is a very knowledgeable dude that you can talk to. He will fit in well with John and Lance on the new station and does respond to his emails.
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During football season, Sean and John talk a TON of college football. He and were kicking around zone blocking and which of the backs we like best in this draft for this system while we were in the office today. Very few people here in Houston know the schemes or the college players like Harris. He literally watches 2 to 3 games each day just to make his own evaluations of players.
 
LZ said:
I don't think Zuttah's stock is going to rise more than a round at most. What you see is what you get with him and he's still going to be a later round pick, but he's the type of guy who Gibbs would probably want the Texans to look at. As for Benedict he's a good athlete and pretty solid but I think some here on the message boards are going a little overboard when talking about him. Wallace will have to play center, but he still needs to get stronger and he needs to play with a better pad level. He was WAY too high at the SR. Bowl and guys were getting under him and pushing him around all week.

Jeff Otah's stock is moving on up while some teams are moving Chris Williams down because of those short arms. I still dont' think Williams gets past the likes of Denver, Chicago and Arizona and makes it all the way to 18.
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If I remember correctly, he didn't lift very well either. I still think he'll be snatched up fairly quick too. :cool:
 
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