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2008 free agency - your picks

dickieb

Waterboy
What moves should we make in free agency? I think it would be wise to go after some defensive playmakers.

I would like to see us go after Asante Samuel the CB from New England. I hope we get a quality guy at CB or Saftey although we are definately thinner at CB with Robinson being down.
 

dickieb

Waterboy
I would rather draft a RB after our luck last year and since our history of getting used running backs hasn't faired so well.
 

ATRAIN

ATX TEXANS FAN
Just because you would rather have Turner, doesn't make Fargas garbage.

Turner would be nice, but I just don't want to pay for him and would be perfectly happy with Fargas.


Yeah haha I guess Im just a little biased. Fargas had a decent year, maybe its just blinds me with the fact that he is a Raider. I don't see him as a premiere back though.
 

LORK 88

Wreck'em Ŧech!
Eugene Wilson, FS, New England
Drayton Florence, CB, San Diego
Kawika Mitchell, SLB, New York
Justin Fargas, RB, Oakland
Justin Smith, DE, Cincy
Ryan Lilja, OG, Indy

As far as our needs go, I list them as: RB, FS, CB, SLB, pass rushing DE, and OL depth. If we can sign 3 (maybe 4) of the 6 players above along with some other players, I think we put ourselves in good position going into the draft.
 

b0ng

Bad Hombre
Eugene Wilson, FS, New England
Drayton Florence, CB, San Diego
Kawika Mitchell, SLB, New York
Justin Fargas, RB, Oakland
Justin Smith, DE, Cincy
Ryan Lilja, OG, Indy

As far as our needs go, I list them as: RB, FS, CB, SLB, pass rushing DE, and OL depth. If we can sign 3 (maybe 4) of the 6 players above along with some other players, I think we put ourselves in good position going into the draft.
I thought Kawika broke his leg on Saturday vs the Pats? Call me a big party pooper but I really don't see why everybody around here is so in love with Justin Fargas. He's an alright player, but he doesn't have that feature back quality like LT, Willie Parker, or Marshawn Lynch has. I think he will probably stay with the Raiders, and they will continue to plod along developing their offensive game. Also, who is Justin Smith, and isn't the D-line for Cincy just godawful bad?

My Picks
  • Randall Gay CB
  • Lance Briggs OLB
  • Any O-linemen not named Faneca
 

LORK 88

Wreck'em Ŧech!
I thought Kawika broke his leg on Saturday vs the Pats? Call me a big party pooper but I really don't see why everybody around here is so in love with Justin Fargas. He's an alright player, but he doesn't have that feature back quality like LT, Willie Parker, or Marshawn Lynch has. I think he will probably stay with the Raiders, and they will continue to plod along developing their offensive game. Also, who is Justin Smith, and isn't the D-line for Cincy just godawful bad?

My Picks
  • Randall Gay CB
  • Lance Briggs OLB
  • Any O-linemen not named Faneca
Kawika sprained his MCL, he's day to day. I think he'd be good because he plays SLB and can do alittle bit more in coverage and blitzing. Fargas is definitely interesting because he would give us speed at RB that we've never had. I personally want us to draft Mendenhall or Stewart R1, but wouldn't be upset with Fargas at all. As for Justin Smith, he's flying under the radar because of a bad year. He's stout against the run (like Weaver), and usually gets around 6-7 sacks a season. Being the only decent player on the DLine, he got quite a bit of extra attention. Imagine what he would be able to do having a 1 on 1 match up because teams are worried about Mario and Okoye.

As for Gay, I think he could be solid for us. It would be pretty funny if he replaced Faggins so that the headling could read "Faggins Out, Gay In". As for Briggs, this guy is going to demand a serious salary and I don't think we feel the need to pay him the most an LB has ever seen. And lastly, I agree with anyone who doesn't fit the ZBS (like you mentioned, Faneca).
 

hookinreds

Veteran
would anyone like to see Briggs come over?
I think Briggs is a good LB in the 4-6 as it suits his talents, but don't know how he would fair transitioning to our scheme. To me, that would be a higher priced chance for me to take. He's good, but would he be that much better than a LB that is playing in a similar scheme as us and cheaper? I'm all for paying for talent, but think we could spend it on a better option. I might be wrong...just a gut feeling about him looking good in the 4-6.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
I would like to see the Texans go after a veteran CB who doesn't break the bank. A RG who can stand up to the Hendersons & Haynesworths. Maybe a 3rd down pass rushing specialist (if one is available).
 

threetoedpete

Hall of Fame
I like the Gay pick as well. Doesn't break the bank and he has the CHANCE to be come a very productive player. The patties will tag someone. If they let Samuel walk...which they have already promised they would...I bet they tag Gay. Briggs and Samuels both are in that "we're one player away from the super bowl guys" pile. I don't think anyone in here is posting that. Gotta be pateint.
 

LORK 88

Wreck'em Ŧech!
I like the Gay pick as well. Doesn't break the bank and he has the CHANCE to be come a very productive player. The patties will tag someone. If they let Samuel walk...which they have already promised they would...I bet they tag Gay. Briggs and Samuels both are in that "we're one player away from the super bowl guys" pile. I don't think anyone in here is posting that. Gotta be pateint.
They'd have to be crazy to tag Gay, he would get the top 5 CB's salaries averaged together for next year aka he'd get a 1 year, $8 million dollar contract.
 

threetoedpete

Hall of Fame
Even the wolf in New England has to have front line corners Lork, doesn't he ?

Every time I post he is going to move down with dallas every one acts like I'm outta my mind. He can't stand pat. Static is death in the NFL.
 

threetoedpete

Hall of Fame
Are we going to re-sign Andre Davis?
As long as his agent doesn't have a mask on and the pistol drawn, I'd say that's a prety safe bet. Offenvise palymakers is no longer a major need. They've got them. Kubiak is still looking for his Terrel Davis.
 

SF49erFaithful

Crabtree FTW
Briggs is going to be a 49er. Nolan tried trading for him this year and almost got the deal done but they didn't get it done in time or something along those lines. Nolan tried the same thing with Clements last year, and we all know that when he wants a FA, he's going to get him.

But here's a general list of the best players set to be FA's:


  • Terrell Suggs
  • Albert Haynesworth
  • Michael Boley
  • Lance Briggs
  • Gibril Wilson
  • Eugene Wilson
  • Flozell Adams
  • Justin Smiley
  • Justin Smith
  • Asante Samuel
  • Corey Williams
  • Jared Allen

A lot of those guys will probably be resigned, but so far it looks like it could be a pretty good FA class. Especially if some big name WRs like Roy Williams or Chad Johnson are cut.
 

Dallas_Texan

Waterboy
Briggs is going to be a 49er. Nolan tried trading for him this year and almost got the deal done but they didn't get it done in time or something along those lines. Nolan tried the same thing with Clements last year, and we all know that when he wants a FA, he's going to get him.

But here's a general list of the best players set to be FA's:


  • Terrell Suggs
  • Albert Haynesworth
  • Michael Boley
  • Lance Briggs
  • Gibril Wilson
  • Eugene Wilson
  • Flozell Adams
  • Justin Smiley
  • Justin Smith
  • Asante Samuel
  • Corey Williams
  • Jared Allen

A lot of those guys will probably be resigned, but so far it looks like it could be a pretty good FA class. Especially if some big name WRs like Roy Williams or Chad Johnson are cut.
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You know Haynesworth and Flozell will be Franchised though. I wouldn't mind some of those others though....especially Samuel.
 
A couple weeks ago, i was thinking RB would be free-agented, only because there are a lot of FA running backs with bonified pedigrees out there on the market. But the stuff I'm reading in the chronicle has Kubiak saying he wants a young, healthy running back. I may be reading too much, and it's only about day three of the offseason, but if that is the goal then I think their goal is to draft a running back in the first and rotate him in with Dayne and Green.

That leaves cornerbacks and safeties for FA. Samuel is the easy pick. I need to hear more to give a better guesstimation of who the Texans might FA for a cornerback/safety.

Personally, I think they've got it backwards. Get the RB in FA and draft the safety/CB.
 

TEXANRED

Texan-American
Since this is make believe I am going to pull out my Maddenesk GM play and pick up the following FA's:

Haynsworth
Briggs
Samuels
Jarred
and then make a deal for Chad Johnson.

Can you say division winners?
 

Second Honeymoon

Hall of Fame
I doubt the Bengals will be able to do anything but franchise Justin Smith (which I doubt they will do). He would be expensive but he has a good motor and might be a good yin to Mario's yang. I think Samuels is just going to be too much money on the open market.

The big question is whether or not the Titans and Bills spend their cap money this offseason. If they do, it could be slim pickens around the FA waters. Both owners are cheapskates so they will probably just pocket the money like they did last year.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
Samuel is a system CB, so no thanks (Jason David says hello)
Fargas has been an injury prone scrub, and was next to worthless except his contract year
Turner= Chargers O-Line and Neal

Suggs would be the best "Big Name" because he can fix both the OLB and pass rushing DE holes
 
A couple weeks ago, i was thinking RB would be free-agented, only because there are a lot of FA running backs with bonified pedigrees out there on the market. But the stuff I'm reading in the chronicle has Kubiak saying he wants a young, healthy running back. I may be reading too much, and it's only about day three of the offseason, but if that is the goal then I think their goal is to draft a running back in the first and rotate him in with Dayne and Green.

That leaves cornerbacks and safeties for FA. Samuel is the easy pick. I need to hear more to give a better guesstimation of who the Texans might FA for a cornerback/safety.

Personally, I think they've got it backwards. Get the RB in FA and draft the safety/CB.
No, I think that pretty much you have it backwards. RB's typically can play at a high level straight out of college, and the exact opposite is typically true of safties in particular and to a bit lesser degree CB. Getting a vet CB IMO should be a priority and Florence fron San Diego fits that bill without breaking the bank. As far as safties are concerned I don't really like any of the FA's that are available. JMO.

Stewart or Mendenhall in the 1st, so we wont have to worry about RB in FA. I mean if we are going to take a chance on a RB I would rather it be someone we drafted. We really dont know crap about Michael Turner, and I think he is a FA nightmare waiting to happen. And I think Fargas is just a guy and we have a roster full of those.
 

BigBull17

Hall of Fame
A couple weeks ago, i was thinking RB would be free-agented, only because there are a lot of FA running backs with bonified pedigrees out there on the market. But the stuff I'm reading in the chronicle has Kubiak saying he wants a young, healthy running back. I may be reading too much, and it's only about day three of the offseason, but if that is the goal then I think their goal is to draft a running back in the first and rotate him in with Dayne and Green.

That leaves cornerbacks and safeties for FA. Samuel is the easy pick. I need to hear more to give a better guesstimation of who the Texans might FA for a cornerback/safety.

Personally, I think they've got it backwards. Get the RB in FA and draft the safety/CB.
I would rather sign a CB or Safty than a RB in FA. Its so hit or miss with RB that you dont want to throw that much money in a big dolla FA. Its like oline, build through the draft. I like the word jumble in Oakland at CB a little better than Samuels(Ashko;lbiouub).
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
I would rather sign a CB or Safty than a RB in FA. Its so hit or miss with RB that you dont want to throw that much money in a big dolla FA. Its like oline, build through the draft. I like the word jumble in Oakland at CB a little better than Samuels(Ashko;lbiouub).
I can agree with this. Additionally, the RB position has been said to be one of the easier to learn when making the transition into the NFL. Including the fact that a RB's NFL life is usually shorter than most other positions.

I still don't think we'll use our #1 on a RB, but possibly a #3.:cool:
 
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whiskeyrbl

Guest
Terrel Suggs
Randall Gay
Travelle Wharton
Gibril Wilson
 

BigBull17

Hall of Fame
I can agree with this. Additionally, the RB position has been said to be one of the easier to learn when making the transition into the NFL. Including the fact that a RB's NFL life is usually shorter than most other positions.

I still don't think we'll use our #1 on a RB, but possibly a #3.:cool:
Yeah, its been kinda proven that you can get quality backs in the later rounds. More so than say LT.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Free agents I would like them to look @.
DE's Justin Smith, Paul Spicer
CB's Marcus Trufant, Drayton Florence
Safties Gibril Wilson, Eugene Wilson
LB's Micheal Boley

If we could sign 3 of these guys we could draft our LT. RB & C.
My prefrence of players we could sign & stay under the cap would be Trufant, G.Wilson & Spicer
 

LORK 88

Wreck'em Ŧech!
Even the wolf in New England has to have front line corners Lork, doesn't he ?

Every time I post he is going to move down with dallas every one acts like I'm outta my mind. He can't stand pat. Static is death in the NFL.
New England never over-pays players. Their have the mentality that they can win without you and you are replaceable (except Brady). Happened with Deon Branch.
 
We also need to resign Will Demps, A. Davis, Clark & Hutchins.
Why do we need to re sign Hutchins? If we go after a CB in free agency he becomes instantly expendable. He didnt do anything that makes me think he is a must sign guy. I agree with the rest of those guys though.
 

tulexan

Hall of Fame
A couple weeks ago, i was thinking RB would be free-agented, only because there are a lot of FA running backs with bonified pedigrees out there on the market. But the stuff I'm reading in the chronicle has Kubiak saying he wants a young, healthy running back. I may be reading too much, and it's only about day three of the offseason, but if that is the goal then I think their goal is to draft a running back in the first and rotate him in with Dayne and Green.
I was thinking the same thing. Of the three need positions that he listed, running back has the shortest learning curve. I think we are going to try to sign a corner back in free agency, draft a running back in the first round, and draft a OT in the 3rd round. We might also try to sign a OT in free agency, but I don't think we will go after anyone big. I think Kubiak is going to now implement his ZBS line and wants to get his kind of guys in there.
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Why do we need to re sign Hutchins? If we go after a CB in free agency he becomes instantly expendable. He didnt do anything that makes me think he is a must sign guy. I agree with the rest of those guys though.
He provides versatility Cb./S (a good backup 4th corner type). He should provide cheap depth.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I was thinking the same thing. Of the three need positions that he listed, running back has the shortest learning curve. I think we are going to try to sign a corner back in free agency, draft a running back in the first round, and draft a OT in the 3rd round. We might also try to sign a OT in free agency, but I don't think we will go after anyone big. I think Kubiak is going to now implement his ZBS line and wants to get his kind of guys in there.
Any idea what LT is available in free agency? I do not know of any that would be worth a shot. In third, Mike McGlynn 6'5"318lbs 5.25 Pittsburgh and U.Texas Tony Hills 6'6" 305lbs 5.16 are projected as 3rd round but McGlynn might already be gone by our pick. That is why I'd go LT in 1st & pick up RB in 3rd. I see more RBs projected lower that could benefit team. If a trade getting a 2nd is done, then I'd be ok with an RB in first. I agree that RB,LT and CB are our biggest needs and to cover the three with best three players can get= LT, RB and CB in FA or lower round of draft.
 

tulexan

Hall of Fame
Any idea what LT is available in free agency? I do not know of any that would be worth a shot. In third, Mike McGlynn 6'5"318lbs 5.25 Pittsburgh and U.Texas Tony Hills 6'6" 305lbs 5.16 are projected as 3rd round but McGlynn might already be gone by our pick. That is why I'd go LT in 1st & pick up RB in 3rd. I see more RBs projected lower that could benefit team. If a trade getting a 2nd is done, then I'd be ok with an RB in first. I agree that RB,LT and CB are our biggest needs and to cover the three with best three players can get= LT, RB and CB in FA or lower round of draft.
I have no idea which linemen they would go after, I just have a feeling it won't be a big name like Faneca. Probably more depth with potential players like Butler, Black, and the new center we just picked up.
 

steelbtexan

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I was thinking the same thing. Of the three need positions that he listed, running back has the shortest learning curve. I think we are going to try to sign a corner back in free agency, draft a running back in the first round, and draft a OT in the 3rd round. We might also try to sign a OT in free agency, but I don't think we will go after anyone big. I think Kubiak is going to now implement his ZBS line and wants to get his kind of guys in there.
I want us to draft a O-LT in the 1st rd. Look @ the teams in the playoffs & their O-LT's Indy (Ugoh 2nd) S.D. (Mc Neil 2nd) Sea.(Jones 1st) N.E.(Light 2nd) Jac. (Barnes 2nd) Dal. (Adams 2nd). I hope everyone sees the value of drafting a O-LT in rounds 1or 2.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
I have no idea which linemen they would go after, I just have a feeling it won't be a big name like Faneca. Probably more depth with potential players like Butler, Black, and the new center we just picked up.
Faneca will be a high priced guard. No LT will be there. All I can say for Jordan Black is he knows the system and did not get cut during the season. For me the only option of any measurement is a CB in Free Agency.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
I was thinking the same thing. Of the three need positions that he listed, running back has the shortest learning curve. I think we are going to try to sign a corner back in free agency, draft a running back in the first round, and draft a OT in the 3rd round. We might also try to sign a OT in free agency, but I don't think we will go after anyone big. I think Kubiak is going to now implement his ZBS line and wants to get his kind of guys in there.
Ditto

the free agency process is going to be exciting who the Texans target, will they go after big dollar, above average players @ positions of need? CB/OT would require a substantial investment possibly including overpaying or under the radar gems (what I expect of Rick Smith)? If Rick does compete for the servies of the best UFA's he'll want a player coming into his prime with a long solid career still ahead. I would be elated with Carolina UFA Jordan Gross who can guard or tackle. At CB (wishfull thinking) sign Nnamdi Asomugha away from the Raiders.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Asomugha is my top CB due to his age and potential as a lockdown CB. Nobody wants to throw his way.

I wouldn't touch Samuel, he's getting a truckload of money that can be better served elsewhere.

I'm interested in Trufant, he's battle tested having to face the WRs in Arizona and St. Louis 2x a year respectively and should be able to hold his own against whoever he's lined up against the Colts and shouldn't have a problem with any of the Titans or Jags WRs.

Unfortunately due to the fact these guys are gonna get tons of money I think we're gonna end up signing a bandaid like Florance and hope that DRob can make a full recovery while we spread our cap money out across the board.

IMO though I think we have the room to spare to make a splash with a Asomugha or Trufant signing. Even if DRob comes back 100% we still need 3 quality CBs to beat the Colts and these 2 guys would also help improve our takeaway #s, something else we need to improve to win in the AFC South.
 

Lucky

Ride, Captain, Ride!
Staff member
...I think we're gonna end up signing a bandaid like Florance and hope that DRob can make a full recovery while we spread our cap money out across the board.
[SIZE=-1]Florence? The Texans aren't going to sign the guy who gave their QB a cheap shot.

I think you can forget the high priced CBs. The Texans don't know if Dunta will or won't make a comeback. The best avenue is to take a vet CB and sign him to a short contract with incentives. There may be some corners who aren't FA's now, but could be on the market due to salary cap cuts. The two CBs in KC, Law & Surtain, come to mind.
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TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
[SIZE=-1]Florence? The Texans aren't going to sign the guy who gave their QB a cheap shot.

I think you can forget the high priced CBs. The Texans don't know if Dunta will or won't make a comeback. The best avenue is to take a vet CB and sign him to a short contract with incentives. There may be some corners who aren't FA's now, but could be on the market due to salary cap cuts. The two CBs in KC, Law & Surtain, come to mind.
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I said a CB LIKE Florance...similar ratings and what-not...
 
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