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Jacksonville Slammed
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TexansTrueFan
All Pro
thats the funniest thing i ever heard, but whats all this talk about "why a super bowl in houston, what are you thinking ?" we have beautiful city and beautiful stadium !
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Some of these guys are po'd they aren't getting their annual free trip to the traditional three SB locations and so slam everything else. I do wonder how Jax is going to accomodate the parties etc. that were held here in Houston. There were hundreds of them and I don't think Jax has enough venues. The league needs to get more cities in the rotation, but some cities really aren't set up for something this big--not just the event itself, but all the accompanying events.WWJD said:
I've never been to Jacksonville, but I think it may be a bit on the smallish
side for the biggest annual sports event in this country. It just doesn't have
the infrastucture in terms of hotel accomadations, airline connections/airport,
entertainment facilities, etc.
Houston of course made a positive impression this past year and we have got
a lot going for us in our efforts to get a repeat SB in coming years, though
its hard to compete with SD and South Florida. On the other hand, the last time I was in NO it was a scary place and its probably getting worse all the
time and they don't really have the facilities/infrastructures that we do.
side for the biggest annual sports event in this country. It just doesn't have
the infrastucture in terms of hotel accomadations, airline connections/airport,
entertainment facilities, etc.
Houston of course made a positive impression this past year and we have got
a lot going for us in our efforts to get a repeat SB in coming years, though
its hard to compete with SD and South Florida. On the other hand, the last time I was in NO it was a scary place and its probably getting worse all the
time and they don't really have the facilities/infrastructures that we do.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
and the srippers dont forget,,, 
nevermind my mistake that was just janet 
.
ours was entertaining for those people who dont even really like football,,,,streakers, strippers, a nail biting down to the last second game. And now just 1 year later the NFL goes off and does this, lombardi would be ashamed
nevermind my mistake that was just janet .ours was entertaining for those people who dont even really like football,,,,streakers, strippers, a nail biting down to the last second game. And now just 1 year later the NFL goes off and does this, lombardi would be ashamed
texan279
Hall of Fame
They had covered about 15,000 seats to prevent the Jags games from being blacked out on local TV because they could not seelout a game and I think Budweiser paid to have those seats uncovered for the Super Bowl. And I am not sure but I think Alltell only has about 3-5,000 more seats than Reliant, I can't remember though.
TexanExile
A New Hope
The proposed renovations to Pro Player Stadium in Miami (now rechristened "Dolphins Stadium"), when completed, might make Miami an even stronger regular contender for the SB in a few years. Bigger stadium, and probably a retractable roof, too. And it's all being done with private financing, which I appreciate--too bad NFL cities are willing to be financially molested to support a few hundred boutique jobs for a corporate franchise.
The down side is that the Dolphins will STILL probably be trying to convice us that A.J. Feeley can play. Heh.
The down side is that the Dolphins will STILL probably be trying to convice us that A.J. Feeley can play. Heh.
TheOgre
All Pro
I actually found the article funny. Of course you have to realize that Tony K. (who wrote that) is your stereotypical New Yorker. He doesn't see the finer things in a place like Houston, Detroit or Minneapolis. I somewhat agree with him. I think they should have the Super Bowl in one of those three sites every other year. I don't think they should have back-to-back "test" cities like Houston and Jacksonville these past two years. There is a decent change that two "test" cities could suck in a row.
Fortunately for us, Houston was considered a success.
Fortunately for us, Houston was considered a success.
i agree with the article...the superbowl needs to be played in a huge city that can handle the needs of the superbowl...although i think houston did a fine job of that last year...cities like san diego, miami, new orleans, and soon the L.A. franchises are probably best suited for this event...now...cities like detriot, chicago, new york, and san fransico would be nice but they would have to have domed stadiums so that everyone could enjoy the game...and you couldn't have the superbowl clouded with bad weather...but jacksonville come one...there are plenty of better stadiums in the nfl to host this game
THEFUTURE
Rookie
Jacksonville is a horrible city for a SB... i have been there three times most recently last summer, it doesnt have much in the way of being an interesting city, plus its humid as all hell there. horrible... Jacksonville is really a lot of old run down stuff from what i had seen... they would basically have to demolish the whole city and start from scratch to make this city entertaining
SheTexan
Hall of Fame
I went to last years SB and Houston did a fantastic job of hosting the event. I will have to admit it was a WIERD feeling walking into Reliant and seeing it all decked out for someone else. Turning our beautiful stadium over to two other teams was somewhat depressing, esp since the Pats fans turned out to be some of the most obnoxious and rude fans I have ever been around. It would be AWESOME to have the SB in our city WHEN the Texans make it there. Folks would have to break the bank to get a ticket!YodAa said:
ledzeppelin229
Hall of Fame
When was that thing tested? We were in Fort Morgan, Alabama and I heard something similar (I think it was around 11 am but I sleep in late so I really have no idea) that shook the beachhouse. I just remember waking up, realized I wasn't blown up and decided there was nothing I could do so I just went back to sleep.wags said:
My only visit to NO was in the winter and it was enjoyable weather, like ourwags said:
Houston winters. But Houston & NO have virtually the same latitude and are
on the Gulf Coast (with those prevailing southerly winds - hence the humidity), and they therefor probably have nearly identical climates for those reasons. Historical statistics reveal that summer months in Houston are
2-3 degrees >, so perhaps the summer "heat indexs" here may be even higher
than those in NO.
Posted on Thu, Jan. 27, 2005
By Frank Fitzpatrick
Inquirer Staff Writer
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The Jacksonville Super Bowl Host Committee will spend 10 times the amount it originally budgeted for security. Fifty-three public-safety agenicies will provide manpower. A fence has been raised around Alltel Stadium's perimeter. The Coast Guard is patrolling the St. Johns River.
And yet, while describing the city's elaborate security plans for Super Bowl XXXIX, Laurie-Ellen Smith had one lingering concern:
"Is it true that a lot of fans from Philadelphia might just drive down here for the heck of it even if they don't have a room or a ticket?" asked Smith, the public-information officer for the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.
Told that, yes, green-shirted hordes were likely to descend on her city like ants to a picnic, Smith could only say, "Oh, my."
No one is quite certain how large and rowdy the Philadelphia and New England fans who come here in advance of the Feb. 6 game will be. And since the Super Bowl might be the world's most commercialized event, no one involved with the event here wants to prevent them from having a good time and spending their money.
But, like Smith, there is a serious curiosity among local officials about just what to expect from passionate Northern visitors to this city's first Super Bowl.
"I tell people here that while they might all be football fans, there's a difference between Northern fans and Southern ones," said Steve Arledge, a 36-year-old Cherry Hill native who has lived here for nearly 20 years. "I mean Gators [University of Florida] fans can be crazy, too, but I think there's a little more bitterness in the fans from the North. Maybe that's because, in Philadelphia anyway, it's been so long since they won anything."
The Eagles and Patriots will distribute a combined 28,000 Super Bowl tickets, but organizers expect far more fans from Boston and Philadelphia than that.
"Statistics tell us that there will be 40,000 people who show up with no ticket or prayer of getting a ticket," said Peter Rummell, the committee's cochairman. "They're looking for a cold beer and a good time. Typically, they're people on a mission. They just want to be where the other 80,000 people are."
Despite her question, Smith said Jacksonville police were not overly concerned about the football fans. There are, of course, more serious issues in this post-9/11 world than young men vomiting.
"We want everyone to feel welcome here," she said. "And as long as they behave themselves, they have no reason to expect any trouble."
Local authorities do have considerable experience dealing with football rowdies. The Gator Bowl is played here each January. And every October, Florida and Georgia meet here in a heated traditional rivalry.
While that Florida-Georgia game is known as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, this Super Bowl pairing of two teams from tough old Northeastern cities will probably more closely resemble the World's Largest Outdoor Beef and Beer.
"We fully expect that Eagles fans might be taking a few extra sips of the rowdy juice while they're here. But that's OK," said John Keane, a retired Jacksonville policeman and now the executive director of the Police and Firemen's Pension Fund. "Hollering and screaming are fine. We just don't want any public urinating and stuff like that."
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/10743252.htm?1c
By Frank Fitzpatrick
Inquirer Staff Writer
JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The Jacksonville Super Bowl Host Committee will spend 10 times the amount it originally budgeted for security. Fifty-three public-safety agenicies will provide manpower. A fence has been raised around Alltel Stadium's perimeter. The Coast Guard is patrolling the St. Johns River.
And yet, while describing the city's elaborate security plans for Super Bowl XXXIX, Laurie-Ellen Smith had one lingering concern:
"Is it true that a lot of fans from Philadelphia might just drive down here for the heck of it even if they don't have a room or a ticket?" asked Smith, the public-information officer for the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office.
Told that, yes, green-shirted hordes were likely to descend on her city like ants to a picnic, Smith could only say, "Oh, my."
No one is quite certain how large and rowdy the Philadelphia and New England fans who come here in advance of the Feb. 6 game will be. And since the Super Bowl might be the world's most commercialized event, no one involved with the event here wants to prevent them from having a good time and spending their money.
But, like Smith, there is a serious curiosity among local officials about just what to expect from passionate Northern visitors to this city's first Super Bowl.
"I tell people here that while they might all be football fans, there's a difference between Northern fans and Southern ones," said Steve Arledge, a 36-year-old Cherry Hill native who has lived here for nearly 20 years. "I mean Gators [University of Florida] fans can be crazy, too, but I think there's a little more bitterness in the fans from the North. Maybe that's because, in Philadelphia anyway, it's been so long since they won anything."
The Eagles and Patriots will distribute a combined 28,000 Super Bowl tickets, but organizers expect far more fans from Boston and Philadelphia than that.
"Statistics tell us that there will be 40,000 people who show up with no ticket or prayer of getting a ticket," said Peter Rummell, the committee's cochairman. "They're looking for a cold beer and a good time. Typically, they're people on a mission. They just want to be where the other 80,000 people are."
Despite her question, Smith said Jacksonville police were not overly concerned about the football fans. There are, of course, more serious issues in this post-9/11 world than young men vomiting.
"We want everyone to feel welcome here," she said. "And as long as they behave themselves, they have no reason to expect any trouble."
Local authorities do have considerable experience dealing with football rowdies. The Gator Bowl is played here each January. And every October, Florida and Georgia meet here in a heated traditional rivalry.
While that Florida-Georgia game is known as the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, this Super Bowl pairing of two teams from tough old Northeastern cities will probably more closely resemble the World's Largest Outdoor Beef and Beer.
"We fully expect that Eagles fans might be taking a few extra sips of the rowdy juice while they're here. But that's OK," said John Keane, a retired Jacksonville policeman and now the executive director of the Police and Firemen's Pension Fund. "Hollering and screaming are fine. We just don't want any public urinating and stuff like that."
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/10743252.htm?1c
Chron story reporting that McNair will be lobbying hard this week in
Jacksonville to land the SB for Houston in 2009. The article claims that
Houstons biggest competition may come from Atlanta. Keeping with
our meteorological topic in this thread, they are having an icestorm in North
Georgia (Atlanta), this weekend as they did on SB weekend in Atlanta in 2000. If cities competing for SBs use negative campaigning, this may find
its way into McNair's Houston pitch, since ice storms are fairly common events for winter weather in Atlanta.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3014815
Jacksonville to land the SB for Houston in 2009. The article claims that
Houstons biggest competition may come from Atlanta. Keeping with
our meteorological topic in this thread, they are having an icestorm in North
Georgia (Atlanta), this weekend as they did on SB weekend in Atlanta in 2000. If cities competing for SBs use negative campaigning, this may find
its way into McNair's Houston pitch, since ice storms are fairly common events for winter weather in Atlanta.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3014815
D-ReK
RAWWWRR!
On this subject, I was watching Around The Horn on ESPN yesterday, and Jay Mariotti was basically trashing Houston and J-Ville...infantrycak said:
He said something along the lines of, "Why the hell would anyone want to go to a Super Bowl in Jacksonville or Houston? You can't give a Super Bowl to everyone with a new or renovated stadium. There should be a 3 city rotation of San Diego, New Orleans, and Miami."
bigfan77801
Plebian
Why not just rotate it through all 32 cities?
My son just went to Atlanta for a battle of the bands in Atlanta, only for the event to be postponed a day due to inclimate weather. Then I though back to when the Super Bowl was in Atlanta, and the same type of weather made getting to the Super Bowl a tremendous challenge. Thinking back to last year, Houston was ideal. The weather was nice for the season, which afforded the city an opportunity to participate in the week-long activities, and on game day, no ice and snow, as well as an indoor stadium for the comfort of all attending.bigfan77070 said:
Houston is my first preference for obvious reasons, but San Diego, New Orleans, Miami, Phoenix are all great locations for the big game. I don't know enough about Jacksonville to comment, but it seems to be a better location than Detroit.
Houston is the only stadium where you have the choice of an indoor or outdoor game 
. it wont be like that forever, but we have the advantage for the moment.
About the only weather you gotta worry about in Houston is Rain.. and Feb isnt our rainy season.
Id say we have a good chance.. and Mariotti is an asshat. dont trust a yankee when it comes to picking an SB city in the south.. if they havent seen it on TV, they wouldnt know the first thing about it. Apparently they think going down south is "slumming it".
. it wont be like that forever, but we have the advantage for the moment. About the only weather you gotta worry about in Houston is Rain.. and Feb isnt our rainy season.
Id say we have a good chance.. and Mariotti is an asshat. dont trust a yankee when it comes to picking an SB city in the south.. if they havent seen it on TV, they wouldnt know the first thing about it. Apparently they think going down south is "slumming it".
THEFUTURE
Rookie
like i said, i live in san fran,CA i have never been to Houston, so if i have never been there, how am i supposed to be able to say which is worse? all i stated is my thoughts on the city of Jacksonville... i never stated Houston was any better or worse, just what i thought of one city. I really dont care, all i said, is that for me, a person not used to any humidity, jacksonville was hell...thats all, any problem with that statment?Vinny said:
THEFUTURE
Rookie
LIKE I SAID... i dont know what Houston's weather is like, i have never stepped foot into Texas... so i couldnt compare the two, all i know is about jacksonville, never made a statement that it was any better or worse then Houston, people were making statements what they thought about the city, and so did I, and in my opinion, Jacksonville was a humid city... that has no direct or indirect comparison to HoustonVinny said: