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Dunta-Is this true?

MightyTExan

MightyTExan

It's go time!
Can anyone confrim this?
Saw this post on another messageboard:
"I was listening to the Dunta Robinson show yesterday on my way home from work. There was one caller who asked Dunta if he thought Mario was living up to the expectations of being drafted number one overall. Dunta said no. He said he's doing some good things, but that he can play better and that he needs to be disruptive on every play. Dunta also said he didn't have one or two years to wait on Mario to develop, he needs Mario to play well now.

He was also asked how he felt about the Pats and Colts game, and he said he can't blame everyone for wanting to watch it, he wants to watch it too. In fact, he told Texan fans to watch that game and just check up on them later."
 
Can't confirm it, but if it is true, it doesn't surprise me. We really need someone back there to get them in focus. DeMeco is a leader on the field as far as adjusting the play, but we need an attitude leader. Dunta is definitely the first guy in line for that job.

They need to go out there and get pissed off before the game. I mean furious. They need to play like those old defenses everyone loved.

I once heard that Mean Joe Green punched one of the Steeler receivers in the face because he didn't make a catch. Is that true? We need attitude like that! (except he should punch Mario instead)
 
Does "I'm just keepin it real" mean he doesn't want to show up or will his outspokeness mean, everyone else on the defense needs to show up?:gun:
 
If everyone on the defense played with Dunta's intensity we'd probably be having a different season right now.
 
It's not like Mario's play isn't like totally obviously milquetoast except for the pollyanna fans perhaps.
 
I love Dunta...I really do. Its like he is a smart Texans Talk poster and just gets the forum to say what many are thinking. :heart:
 
I for one am a Loyal Texan fan to the end, I would watch and will watch the Texan game over the Pats game and my Raider friend will watch his team with me.

I'm not watching the Pats-Colts over the Texans because I watch no one over the Texans. Besides...all this hype for a matchup that happens every year one way or another. I mean the last 4-5 years this thing has gone on, if it were on before or after the Texans game...sure I would watch it.

ESPN can hype the game all it wants as some big game that will show us the future and tell you who is going to be the champion. Just like how ESPN hyped the Suns-Mavs games last NBA season only to find out none of those teams went past the second round. Its a regular season matchup between two really good teams, but IDK...I am not that hyped for it. Not me, i'm watching the Texans first week in week out, even when we were 2-14 I still like to see my players battle for a win.
 
I think my favorite player on this team will be gone before we know it. He will be a superstar if he goes somewhere else. It will be a sad day when we see him in another jersey and all we will have is memories of him busting people in the nose for us.:gun:
 
I'll be watching the Texans. Unless they get behind by 30 points again, but that isn't happening this week.
 
That's why I love D-Rob. He throws out the tired cliches and spits it like it is. I don't blame him, most football fans appreciate good football and you can guarantee Pats/Colts will be that. They both play disciplined, smart and mistake-free football unlike our team of late.
 
Leahmic223 said:
I for one am a Loyal Texan fan to the end, I would watch and will watch the Texan game over the Pats game and my Raider friend will watch his team with me.

I'm not watching the Pats-Colts over the Texans because I watch no one over the Texans. Besides...all this hype for a matchup that happens every year one way or another. I mean the last 4-5 years this thing has gone on, if it were on before or after the Texans game...sure I would watch it.

ESPN can hype the game all it wants as some big game that will show us the future and tell you who is going to be the champion. Just like how ESPN hyped the Suns-Mavs games last NBA season only to find out none of those teams went past the second round. Its a regular season matchup between two really good teams, but IDK...I am not that hyped for it. Not me, i'm watching the Texans first week in week out, even when we were 2-14 I still like to see my players battle for a win.
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nobody has to hype this game. These are the two best teams in the NFL and nobody is even in their league right now.
 
Vinny said:
nobody has to hype this game. These are the two best teams in the NFL and nobody is even in their league right now.
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Agreed, it will probably be better than the superbowl, both teams are in the AFC......prollly will meet again in the playoffs, hopefully not until the AFC championship game.

Is the pats/colts on at the same time as Texans/raiders? They should both be CBS games anyway. I am as intrigued as anyone, but I will not turn off my Texans.
 
Vinny said:
It's not like Mario's play isn't like totally obviously milquetoast except for the pollyanna fans perhaps.
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And our head coach. He seems to act like Mario is doing a great job and the rest of us are just ignorant in our expectations.

While I don't expect our HC to throw anyone under the bus, I also don't expect him to put sprinkles on a turd and tell us it's a Little Debbie snack cake.

Things had better turn around, because people are going to leave this team (and not just the fans!). D.Rob is a dude that has a will to win, and if not here, then we will see him in a Colts or Pats uni before we know it. That'll be a sad day when one of our best players bolts because we consistently suck.

As far as the Colts/Pats game, I guess I'm stuck watching the Texans. I'm not giving up time with my boy to hang out at a sports bar where I won't be able to concentrate and enjoy either game. I'll just have to catch it on NFL Replay.
 
Vinny said:
This is the game of the year...in case you haven't been paying attention.
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Um...didn't I say it was a big regular season game?

That is it. That is all it is. A regular season game between 2 undefeated teams. The Team that loses this game isn't going to tear down and have a horrible season the rest of the way. The Boys/Pats game was hyped almost as much, and ESPN then called it a likely preview of the superbowl. I guess, things change when playoffs come around. Colts proved that last year.

I still will not watch it over the Texans.
 
Double Barrel said:
And our head coach. He seems to act like Mario is doing a great job and the rest of us are just ignorant in our expectations.

While I don't expect our HC to throw anyone under the bus, I also don't expect him to put sprinkles on a turd and tell us it's a Little Debbie snack cake.

Things had better turn around, because people are going to leave this team (and not just the fans!). D.Rob is a dude that has a will to win, and if not here, then we will see him in a Colts or Pats uni before we know it. That'll be a sad day when one of our best players bolts because we consistently suck.

As far as the Colts/Pats game, I guess I'm stuck watching the Texans. I'm not giving up time with my boy to hang out at a sports bar where I won't be able to concentrate and enjoy either game. I'll just have to catch it on NFL Replay.
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You can say "Mario is doing some good things and we see improvement when we watch the tape but has a long ways to go" and this still represents needing improvement and not exaggerating his play.....a mildly upbeat disappointment. I'll take that over the b.s.

As far as the game. I thought about buying it since I have Direct TV but I'm not sure.
 
Let me start this by saying that I think Dunta is easily our best defensive player, and I shudder to think what the D would look like without him,,,

but,...

...I always get concerned when players start calling each other in public. I cannot decide if Dunta is trying to be aleader and motivate Mario or if he frustration is just boiling over. My issue is the "every play" crack, as I could easily see this causing alot of resentment within the locker room (espically in light of the end of the Tennesse game). This could also be a sign that Kubiak is on the verge of losing this team.

Don't get me wrong I like the fact that Dunta alsways speaks his mind, and I fully supported him in his comments about Carr last season. But the difference is that Dunta is making these comments in the middle of the season.

Then again maybe Dunta can do what John McClain cannot.

Just the thoughts that came to my mind when I read/heard the interview.
 
Leahmic223 said:
No one has to hype it but ESPN is positive this is the superbowl.
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Hell it could be better than the super bowl! The NFC's best is not even close to matching up with NE and or Indy! Dallas is a damn good NFC team and NE just demolished them. NE is playing what could be the best footbal anyone has playe din 10 years. Washington had a top 5 defense and NE just racked up 52 on them.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Then again maybe Dunta can do what John McClain cannot.
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I can guarantee you one thing...not one player in that locker room gives a rats booty about what McClain has to say.
HoustonFrog said:
You can say "Mario is doing some good things and we see improvement when we watch the tape but has a long ways to go" and this still represents needing improvement and not exaggerating his play.....a mildly upbeat disappointment. I'll take that over the b.s.
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Thats what he kept saying about Carr before he cut him last year.
 
Don't see anything negative here. Dunta isn't afraid to speak his mind, he's just an honest person. He's not dissing Mario, he is underperforming.
 
By the way, ESPN is hyping the game and all, but why isn't this game the Monday Night game or the Sunday night game at the very least. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Buffi2 said:
Can Dunta go before his contract is up?
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Not physically but mentally, yep, he sure can.

Also, IIRC, he only has two years left on this contract. Given his play, he'll warrent a pretty good size contract. If I were him and the Texans are in the same shape then as they are now, I would probably back off a bit and save my body for my next team and my next contract. Remember, a player's body is his product and no one buys broken products.

I know some of y'all won't like hearing that but it is a fact of life in the NFL.
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with what Dunta said. He's earned the right to say that by playing the way he has. I also liked how he called out his team for not playing with enough intensity when interviewed after the last game. Somebody needs to light a fire under these guys, and I don't think the coaches are doing enough of that. I hope he doesn't leave, but I don't blame him if he does.
 
Hagar said:
Not physically but mentally, yep, he sure can.

Also, IIRC, he only has two years left on this contract. Given his play, he'll warrent a pretty good size contract. If I were him and the Texans are in the same shape then as they are now, I would probably back off a bit and save my body for my next team and my next contract. Remember, a player's body is his product and no one buys broken products.

I know some of y'all won't like hearing that but it is a fact of life in the NFL.
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Dunta's next contract lies in his game film...he wants a big contract so he will do what he needs to do to look good on film. That is the real fact of NFL life....he ain't gonna coast.
 
mridge01 said:
By the way, ESPN is hyping the game and all, but why isn't this game the Monday Night game or the Sunday night game at the very least. That just doesn't make any sense to me.
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The networks pay big money for the rights to NFL games. And both the Pats and Colts are AFC teams, which are the domain of CBS. The network has as much right to this game as anyone under the current agreements.

The bigger question is why didn't the NFL set this one up from the point of scheduling last Spring to be a primetime game.

And for the record, NFLN is hyping this one as much, if not more, than ESPiN.
 
I can't possibly see where the Texans are stupid enough to let him go. I just don't see it. He'll get a big fat signing bonus and be here for a while longer. Dunta is good for us, be he ain't the best in the league. There are better corners than him. But for us, he's invaluable.
 
Dunta's been here since 2004 . In that time he's lost a lot more than he's won and if I were him , I would'nt use to much finese when describing the situation ... what are they going to do trade me to a worse team .

The problem is who'll be after Dunta ... Demeco ... is he going to get run off for saying something bad about an underperforming teamate .

I think this is a calculated risk on Dunta's part to right the ship . It's a risk of desperation though .
 
Double Barrel said:
And our head coach. He seems to act like Mario is doing a great job and the rest of us are just ignorant in our expectations.

While I don't expect our HC to throw anyone under the bus, I also don't expect him to put sprinkles on a turd and tell us it's a Little Debbie snack cake.

Things had better turn around, because people are going to leave this team (and not just the fans!). D.Rob is a dude that has a will to win, and if not here, then we will see him in a Colts or Pats uni before we know it. That'll be a sad day when one of our best players bolts because we consistently suck.

As far as the Colts/Pats game, I guess I'm stuck watching the Texans. I'm not giving up time with my boy to hang out at a sports bar where I won't be able to concentrate and enjoy either game. I'll just have to catch it on NFL Replay.
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In Austin, they are not showing the Raiders/Texans, they are going with Pats/Colts.

http://www.keyetv.com/entertainment/listings/default.aspx

I am glad I broke down and got the NFL Sunday ticket.
 
I heard a good bit of Dunta's show yesterday. I have started to check it out more because he is very honest, and doesn't just spew out Craig Biggio style sound bites. I heard him pretty much call most of his teammates everything but the pillsbury dough boy. I mean he didn't come right out and say these guys are soft, but the inference was definetely there. I also remember him specifically saying that we have some young guys that need to get better NOW, and to hell with potential. He said he isn't getting any younger, and he's tired of waiting for these guys to pull their weight.
 
Thorn said:
I can't possibly see where the Texans are stupid enough to let him go. I just don't see it. He'll get a big fat signing bonus and be here for a while longer. Dunta is good for us, be he ain't the best in the league. There are better corners than him. But for us, he's invaluable.
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I dunno if they would let him go, but he may be unwilling to stay.
Dunta is a powerful little guy - on the field and off of it. And he would be the type who management wouldn't want to try to push around. That guy marchs
to a different drummer, and if he set is mind to leave when he is a FA and negotiate a deal with another team, a playoff contender, I don't think the Texans would try to push D-Rob around. You know that wouldn't be a good stradegy. But they can make it awfully temping for him to stay, financailly speaking.
But he's not only my favorite player, he's my favorite personality on the team.
By the way, you couldn't have somebody Mario's size playing like Dunta Robinson. You'd have to ban him from the league - he's 100 lbs bigger than D-Rob.
 
Specnatz said:
Franchise Tag ......................................................



D'oh
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yup, Spec wins. Dunta doesnt have a choice. He can hold out and demand a trade but if he was franchise'd he would get huge money and I don't know if he could turn all that down just to force a trade. Samuel did a similar thing to the Patriots this year and ended up getting his money and got re-signed.
 
Double Barrel said:
The networks pay big money for the rights to NFL games. And both the Pats and Colts are AFC teams, which are the domain of CBS. The network has as much right to this game as anyone under the current agreements.

The bigger question is why didn't the NFL set this one up from the point of scheduling last Spring to be a primetime game.

And for the record, NFLN is hyping this one as much, if not more, than ESPiN.
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I think this revolves around the flex scheduling idea.

It's one thing for a network to pick all games 6 months in advance and carry the risk of a rating bombs, but to wait and cherry pick 10 days before?

What I am saying is, Fox and CBS needed a little love in order to agree to the flex schedule. That is my opinion though.

But, we have heard about this type of stuff for several years now. That's probably why. Otherwise, the good games would always get picked over. The day games need some big rating hitters from time to time, this is one of them!

It's no secret the Networks, cable providers, satellite TV providers, and the NFL have their issues with figuring things out distributing games via TV/Internet. This is one of those things and perplexing to fans.

What works for the fans may not be doable from the businesses listed above. Perfect example, DirectTV and the Sunday Ticket. Great article on espn.com about that whole issue with an historical perspective.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
yup, Spec wins. Dunta doesnt have a choice. He can hold out and demand a trade but if he was franchise'd he would get huge money and I don't know if he could turn all that down just to force a trade. Samuel did a similar thing to the Patriots this year and ended up getting his money and got re-signed.
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Dunta does have a choice!

He goes through his contract and either takes the 1 year franchise contract or doesn't play. He can come in about week 10, get full credit for a season and become an unrestricted free agent. He may have to do that 2 years though.

Point is, all Dunta has to do is not sign a contract, play under the 1 year franchise contract stuff and at some point he becomes an unrestricted free agent. The Texans can't make him sign a long-term deal, but can make it painful to get out!

If he plays really hard ball, the Texans might just trade him somewhere so they can get some value out of Dunta. It is kind of scortched Earth, but if he is really pissed and thinks things are going no where anyway playing for the Texans, what does he have to lose? Absolutely NOTHING!!!

Just watch, this can start to get real interesting in the offseason.
 
Vinny said:
It's not like Mario's play isn't like totally obviously milquetoast except for the pollyanna fans perhaps.
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I was going to say, "the players see Mario play too".

I'm sure Dunta isn't the only one that thinks Mario isn't near as good as a first rounder should be, much less a #1 pick.
 
From everything I've seen and heard from Dunta Robinson, he just doesn't seem to be the type of guy to want to leave so badly that he would turn down a top shelf offer from the Texans just to bolt to a different team.

I know he is the most frustrated Texan about the losing and has continued to call out his team, but that just tells me he is too invested in this team to just sit around and watch what he feels is a talented team go to waste. He is a Texan first and I just feel he wants to be here and be a main component of the team when it finally does turn the corner.

I may be way off here, but I just don't see him bolting for greener pastures when the team is really not too far off from winning football.
 
Baga21 said:
From everything I've seen and heard from Dunta Robinson, he just doesn't seem to be the type of guy to want to leave so badly that he would turn down a top shelf offer from the Texans just to bolt to a different team.
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If you think you have a feel for D-Rob, then you must realize that if there is one player on this team who would pass up guaranteed money to have the opportunity to negotiate in free agency to play for a winner/play in the playoffs, its Dunta Robinson.
 
nunusguy said:
If you think you have a feel for D-Rob, then you must realize that if there is one player on this team who would pass up guaranteed money to have the opportunity to negotiate in free agency to play for a winner/play in the playoffs, its Dunta Robinson.
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I do realize that as well. This is why I said I may be way off...

It's just my opinion from what I've seen/heard from this proud man from day 1 of arriving in Houston.
 
what was his thoughts last week giving up the 2 pass plays that set the titans winning field goal. was he as blunt about his play as he is about others.

just saying that his first year 6 picks, two and a half seasons later 5 more, would he say he has under performed his expectations since then.
 
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