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Fatassworth's comments on hitting Schaub

Hookem Horns

Texans Talk Bartender
Staff member
"Well, heck, I mean we probably would have won this game 35-7 if he stayed in," Haynesworth said. "It was good to knock him out I guess, but he's going to come back and I don't think there'll be any kind of quarterback controversy because they pay that guy a lot of money."

Real class. Of course his "class" does match that of his boss.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3073225
 

NitroGSXR

Super Sic #58
It just looked like a hard tackle by Haynesworth to me. Nothing really all that malicious. I just don't think that Haynesworth is a very bright guy at all. He's a very good football player with a very low IQ which is basically a thug. I wouldn't want him on my team but I wouldn't be clamoring to unload him either (if we had him).
 

AnthonyE

Lurker
When he's bragging about his hit that injures a player, there's a serious problem with the guy.

I hate him so much. A guy like that shouldn't be in the league. He's a dirty player and I hope he's fined.

Did anyone else notice the taunt at the end of that play?
 
He's a human piece of crap. He is worse than Michael Vick as a person, IMO. He intentionally mauled an opponent's face with his cleats and is basically an a-hole. I really want him to have a career-ending injury.
 

PapaL

Loose Screw
He's a human piece of crap. He is worse than Michael Vick as a person, IMO. He intentionally mauled an opponent's face with his cleats and is basically an a-hole. I really want him to have a career-ending injury.
I would also include his ability to reproduce. Guys like that shouldn't spawn any children for the betterment of the gene pool.
 

Tourist

Practice Squad
Yep, Haynesworth is an ass. Next thing you know, he'll be standing over an injured QB's body, yelling at him.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
You people are delusional. He's not boasting, he's stating the obvious - when you can knock out the opposing team's starting QB, who is good at that, you put your team at a nice advantage. Injuries are part of the game, and when you hit someone hard and you cause one you shouldn't feel remorseful, you did good for your team. If VY was playing and he was taken out by Okoye with a devastating hit like AH's, you don't think the Texans D would be giving him some pats on the back? get real.
 

Leahmic223

Veteran
You people are delusional. He's not boasting, he's stating the obvious - when you can knock out the opposing team's starting QB, who is good at that, you put your team at a nice advantage. Injuries are part of the game, and when you hit someone hard and you cause one you shouldn't feel remorseful, you did good for your team. If VY was playing and he was taken out by Okoye with a devastating hit like AH's, you don't think the Texans D would be giving him some pats on the back? get real.

Yeah but he said had Schaub stayed in they would have blown us out. That is a insult to Schaub and really it comes out of no where. The guy has no class.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
A big burly guy that likes to hurt people? Sounds like a great DT to me. Yep, he's a dirty player, but there are tons of D-Linemen that are. What he did to Gurode last year was bull****, but his hit on Schaub didn't seem intentionally dirty to me.

Maybe its the old D-lineman in me, but if you have a shot at a QB while he still has the ball, you are going to go for it. I rather have something like that than the huggy bear tackle the Giants' DE put on VY last year, letting him run off scot free.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
I don't think he meant it as an insult Leahmic, I think he was quite accurate in suggesting Sage took them off guard. I don't think it would have been 35-7 like he said, maybe 32-22 or something, but I think his point that with Schaub in, the Titans wouldn't have stopped playing after 3 quarters like they did.

The Gurode thing was very, very, very dirty but that was an anomaly, he isn't a dirty player, he's just a very powerful man who used to let his temper get the better of him sometimes creating confrontations and the sorts. He is a different player this year and is finally channeling that into between whistle aggression and not after the whistle aggression and he's clearly a top 3 DT in the NFL right now because of it.

Go to NFL.com and watch and highlights and tell me you really think it's a dirty hit now the game time atmosphere has died down. It sucks to see your starting QB go down but the man was just playing hard and nasty, like any good DT does. It's only because of the ***** QB rules it was flagged - if he went low so his helmet was chest height he may not have prevented the pass which he did, and it's not like he drove the crown of his helmet into Schaub's or anything, it was facemask to facemask and not even direct either.
 

Leahmic223

Veteran
I don't think he meant it as an insult Leahmic, I think he was quite accurate in suggesting Sage took them off guard. I don't think it would have been 35-7 like he said, maybe 32-22 or something, but I think his point that with Schaub in, the Titans wouldn't have stopped playing after 3 quarters like they did.

The Gurode thing was very, very, very dirty but that was an anomaly, he isn't a dirty player, he's just a very powerful man who used to let his temper get the better of him sometimes creating confrontations and the sorts. He is a different player this year and is finally channeling that into between whistle aggression and not after the whistle aggression and he's clearly a top 3 DT in the NFL right now because of it.

Go to NFL.com and watch and highlights and tell me you really think it's a dirty hit now the game time atmosphere has died down. It sucks to see your starting QB go down but the man was just playing hard and nasty, like any good DT does. It's only because of the ***** QB rules it was flagged - if he went low so his helmet was chest height he may not have prevented the pass which he did, and it's not like he drove the crown of his helmet into Schaub's or anything, it was facemask to facemask and not even direct either.
Well he can keep thinking that so when we come to Tenn, hopefully he still believes that. Schaub wouldn't have fumlbed the ball coming in, threw what 3 INTs and put our defense against the wall like he did. Schaub led comebacks also, and I feel we would have had a better chance at winning the game with him playing the second half than Sage. If the Titans stopped playing then they have a major problem because we had the lead with 57 seconds left.

Those INTs basically put you guys in field goal position all game long, while our defense was forced to play D with their backs against the wall all game long. I think Schaub given the second half would have won the game with how the WRs started to catch passes and the run game suddenly made a rare appearance. Schaub can make all the same throws that Sage did and Schaub would have never gave up like Sage.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
Well, that's all just opinion now, and that's all AH was doing - expressing his opinion. The Titans do have a major problem - finishing games they wrap up early score wise has always been an issue for Fisher. He doesn't often let the W slip away, but he quite often lets the score become close again. The exact same thing happened last year in Houston. The difference between the first 3 Q's and the final Q was the Titans packed up too early, particularly on D where they went lazy and ultra conservative.

It would have been a totally different game if Schaub stayed in for sure, just not sure in which sense. AH clearly felt it would have meant a better effort by the Titans, but he's not really paid to think about alternate outcomes. I'm guessing the way he saw it was the Titans got too complacement with a backup QB in, but then maybe he did mean Schaub is the worse QB and he's only guaranteed the starting role because of his paycheck, I dunno, it's just not the impression I got.
 
Albert said nothing out of line only stated facts. hell i might be out of line but if TJ Couldtake care peyton like he did on trent green and kock him out he would be my favorite player there is no better advantage to a team than knocking their Starting QB out.:texflag:
 

NitroGSXR

Super Sic #58
Exactly. I don't think that Haynesworth was doing anything wrong. He tackled Schaub hard. He did his job effectively. I just don't think he's a very bright guy and anything he does is magnified since 'the cleats in a downed player's face' incident. Justifiably under scrutiny but is not being given the benefit of doubt. Just look at the play. I didn't see anything wrong with it. And what he said in the interview is exactly right albeit he could have said it better but I attribute that to his lack of intelligence. He's a very very good football player who acts on his temper tantrums.

His job is to get to the quarterback and he did. The tackle was a fine play by Haynesworth.
 

Dread-Head

Hall of Fame
Yep, Haynesworth is an ass. Next thing you know, he'll be standing over an injured QB's body, yelling at him.
Hmmmm. Let's see. You try to put a HELMET to my KNEE and possibly end my season/career and give yourself a concussion in the process. Not only would I TAUNT your unconscious ass, but during the press conference I would quote the old testiment "As as ye sow, so shall ye reap."
Now then about Haynesworth. The man's an ass. Are we surprised that a teammate of Pac Man Jones would be a jackass?
 

dtran04

Veteran
Yeah, he not an ass at all. I mean, he wouldn't rip off someone's helmet and stomp his cleats on a guy's face....oh wait.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
He has always been immature, in fact when he first came into the league he was basically on his way to being the original Pacman without the media hype (probably because he never had dreadlocks) if it wasn't for Fisher who brought his attitude up to standards. But nothing he did or said this week is anything more than Texans fans blowing it out of proportion - I'll bet the vast majority of general fans would disagree he did anything dirty.
 

toronto

Hall of Fame
He's a human piece of crap. He is worse than Michael Vick as a person, IMO. He intentionally mauled an opponent's face with his cleats and is basically an a-hole. I really want him to have a career-ending injury.
UH, a little over the top in our anger, wouldn't you say?
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
Haynesworth is a punk pure and simple. Not only was the hit late, but he pile drove him into the ground rather than letting up. He knew he didn't have the ball which is the only reason to put that kind of hit on a QB. It was obvious he was trying to injure him. That's called dirty play where I come from. Then after the game, he basically reaffirms my opinion that he was trying to hurt him, and was gleeful that he had done so.

Football is a physical game, and injuries will happen, but to purposely try and injure someone with a late hit is beyond the pale imo, and he should be fined heavily both for the hit, and then his comments later.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
Haynesworth is a punk pure and simple. Not only was the hit late, but he pile drove him into the ground rather than letting up. He knew he didn't have the ball which is the only reason to put that kind of hit on a QB. It was obvious he was trying to injure him. That's called dirty play where I come from. Then after the game, he basically reaffirms my opinion that he was trying to hurt him, and was gleeful that he had done so.

Football is a physical game, and injuries will happen, but to purposely try and injure someone with a late hit is beyond the pale imo, and he should be fined heavily both for the hit, and then his comments later.
Errr, yeah it sure looks late:



(sorry about the res, it's from the NFL.com video. But yeah, that's him not even fully releasing the ball yet).

Sorry dude, that's not late.

And he didn't "pile drive" him, he crushed him while bear hugging him. He didn't slam him, he simply fell on him. It's a pretty effective way of bringing a player down when you're playing tackle football. And to suggest he intentionally tried to injure him is just nonsense, players get tackled like that all the time, when you're a big guy you'll generally come down hard on players.

And fining for comments, are you serious? Way to take a bad loss out on one player.
 

Yankee_In_TX

Dance Lindsay!
I haven't re-watched the game yet. But I've been hearing on the radio the fatal blow was after the whistle. Is this not true?
 
R

real

Guest
You people are delusional. He's not boasting, he's stating the obvious - when you can knock out the opposing team's starting QB, who is good at that, you put your team at a nice advantage. Injuries are part of the game, and when you hit someone hard and you cause one you shouldn't feel remorseful, you did good for your team. If VY was playing and he was taken out by Okoye with a devastating hit like AH's, you don't think the Texans D would be giving him some pats on the back? get real.
You cheer for the hit....

Not the injury...

And YOU are delusional...

Haynesworth is the only athlete that I've ever heard come out and brag about injuring another player...You trying to justify it and make it sound rational only shows the level at which you operate...

You have to be on one of the lower forms of human life if you think that it's o.k. for a player to rejoice about injuring another player....
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
I haven't re-watched the game yet. But I've been hearing on the radio the fatal blow was after the whistle. Is this not true?
No, it wasn't after the whistle. If he wouldn't have hit him in the head, it probably wouldn't have been called.
 

gjmac2

Waterboy
What bothers me is not neccessarly the hit itself, but the fact that

NOT ONE OF THE TEXANS DEFENSIVE PLAYERS RETALIATED AND LAYED A LICK ON COLLINS!!!! NOT ONE!!!!

I don't care if we get a 15 yard penalty, someone should have planted Kerry Collins. You don't let anyone treat your Qb like that.

A lot of things bothered me about yesterday's game, and this was one of them. Don't let the comback fool you, the Texans got their butts handed to them yesterday.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
No, you see you've misundetstood - I don't agree rejoicing about an injured player is fine, I disagree he rejoiced at all. He simply pointed out Schaub leaving was good for the Titans (Deeerrrr).

He wasn't boasting he injured someone, he's not that dumb. But he's also not really super smart either and I think he probably didn't realize what he was saying could be taken that way.
 

The1ApplePie

Hall of Fame
You cheer for the hit....

Not the injury...

And YOU are delusional...

Haynesworth is the only athlete that I've ever heard come out and brag about injuring another player...You trying to justify it and make it sound rational only shows the level at which you operate...

You have to be on one of the lower forms of human life if you think that it's o.k. for a player to rejoice about injuring another player....
You must not have spent much time around organized football then.

Butkus loved injuring people by the way.
 

HOU-TEX

Ah, Football!
No, you see you've misundetstood - I don't agree rejoicing about an injured player is fine, I disagree he rejoiced at all. He simply pointed out Schaub leaving was good for the Titans (Deeerrrr).

He wasn't boasting he injured someone, he's not that dumb. But he's also not really super smart either and I think he probably didn't realize what he was saying could be taken that way.

How is saying this pointing out that it was best that Schaub left the game? :gun:

"Well, heck, I mean we probably would have won this game 35-7 if he stayed in," Haynesworth said.
 

2ToneBlue

Waterboy
Wow strong reaction.

Come on people honestly this is football, the hit wasn't crazy. He was trying to get to the QB while he had to the ball (like they were doing all game up to that point) and landed on top of him.

The guy is ~6'6" 325 he doesn't stop fast. It takes more than a split second for someone that big to stop his momentum. You honestly expect him to grab twist and craddle Schaub to the ground carefully?

Helmet to helmet wasn't bad, but it did happen and drew the flags. I agree with flagging him for that. The hit though wasn't bad, he's just a monster that fell on top of a QB. Unfortunately it did injure Schaub, I'm not proud or glad that happened, but it is part of the game. Our starter was on the sidelines too.
 

Nza

Practice Squad
That's where it starts to get confusing - as I said, he isn't super smart, I think he probably didn't really think what he was saying through. Also keep in mind he said "I guess" after saying it was good to knock Schaub out. Somtimes context gets lost in translation from audio byte to internet text, "I guess" is like saying "on the other hand". "We probably would have won 35-7 with Schaub in, but on the other hand, him being out was probably a good thing". It doesn't make much sense but I'm certain it's what he meant.

You're all reading waaaayy too much into it. Take offence at his suggestion Schaub wouldn't have done much - fine - but to say that's boasting after an injury is a major major stretch.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
Errr, yeah it sure looks late:



(sorry about the res, it's from the NFL.com video. But yeah, that's him not even fully releasing the ball yet).

Sorry dude, that's not late.

And he didn't "pile drive" him, he crushed him while bear hugging him. He didn't slam him, he simply fell on him. It's a pretty effective way of bringing a player down when you're playing tackle football. And to suggest he intentionally tried to injure him is just nonsense, players get tackled like that all the time, when you're a big guy you'll generally come down hard on players.

And fining for comments, are you serious? Way to take a bad loss out on one player.

Dude your just having a homer take because Haynesorth is a flaming meatball. Take off your Bud glasses, get the tacks out of your rear, and face reality. I've been watching football for parts of 4 decades. I think I know a late, intentially forceful hit when I see one. If you can't tell the difference between a player letting up after the ball is thrown and one intentially trying to pile drive the QB into the ground I don't know what to tell you. Obviousely, the refs agreed with me, as he drew a 15 yard penalty. And, I'll make you a side bet. Haynesworth will be fined for the hit and comments about the play.
 
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