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absolutely agreetotally classless individual. enough said....
You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...I disagree.
He taunted right after the hit, I don't think he knew how serious it was until a few moments later. Was he still taunting then I am not sure.
But you have to understand where he's coming from...with his body type he is pretty injury prone, he was lucky he didn't end out of that with a injury himself with the injuries he's had.
But I don't think he knew how serious it was, in the heat of the moment he knew he was just hit on the knee or below it and that makes any lineman pissed. He looked concerned though when he realized what happened, at least in my opinion he did.
Yeah that's the way I saw it. I didn't even know the injury was that serious until 4-5 mintues later. In the heat of battle I think most guys would be pissed. Green could have easily hit his knee the wrong way and could have torn one of his ligments. Then after the hit...Travis did a COMPLETE FLIP...how many times have you seen Travis do this manuever in the air?he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious
If you're pissed yell at your buddies... yell at the sky... yell at the ground... don't walk up to the guy on the ground who is not moving and yell at him... he might not have 'meant' to taunt... but it was an easy call.I don't think he was taunting, I think he was just pissed at Green for going low.
I'm not saying he should have done what he did. I 'm just saying, I can understand why he was pissed though. That could have easily ended his season.You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...
I was glad to see he got ripped a new one... also happy to see him go out there as they were wheeling Green off...
but the taunting was uncalled for and classless. Not saying TJ is because I don't know the guy... but that move was.
maybe so, still it was a legal block. how else is a qb gonna block a lineman that big. trent was just doing what he could to help his player gain some yards.he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious
Even if Green wasn't hurt that's still a 15 yard penalty and a first down for 'talking crap'... just don't do it... especially after having a GREAT defensive play.he was just talking crap to someone that clipped him, I don't think he even realized the injury was serious
It's not like TJ walked up to Green and started yelling. As soon as he got up, he turned around, looked for Green and pointed at him, yelling. He didn't even stop, he did it as he was walking towards the sideline.If you're pissed yell at your buddies... yell at the sky... yell at the ground... don't walk up to the guy on the ground who is not moving and yell at him... he might not have 'meant' to taunt... but it was an easy call.
And to me it was obvious Green was hurt... I figured he had a concussion just cus that's his MO.... I don't want to get on the guy too much, but it was a stupid move.
where did you see that? did the coach talk to him?You don't taunt someone period in football... you especially don't taunt someone who is laying on the ground and not moving... I understand it was the heat of the moment and he was fired up because Green went for his legs... but he's a big boy and should be able to control his emotinos and not act like a 2 year old...
I was glad to see he got ripped a new one... also happy to see him go out there as they were wheeling Green off...
but the taunting was uncalled for and classless. Not saying TJ is because I don't know the guy... but that move was.
You don't have to stop... he yelled at him at least three times and pointed at him... I give him credit for walking off, but still stupid... he made a point of walking right by Trent and yelling at him on the ground... textbook taunting.It's not like TJ walked up to Green and started yelling. As soon as he got up, he turned around, looked for Green and pointed at him, yelling. He didn't even stop, he did it as he was walking towards the sideline.
A legal block? I'm sorry but that was a blatant chop block. Chop blocks are illegal and the Dolphins should have gotten penalized on that play. I hope Trent Green gets well though. And I hope that Travis gets a little bit of yelling by the coaches but I really don't think he was taunting. He was mad because he just got chop blocked. BAD. That 300+ man did a somersault! ONly way you're going to flip a guy that size is to chop block him.maybe so, still it was a legal block. how else is a qb gonna block a lineman that big. trent was just doing what he could to help his player gain some yards.
if you didnt see the play it was when green went down. green was laying face down not moving after a low (but legal) block that took tj out. tj then gets up and taunts him while he is laying unconscious on the ground.
enough with the negitives kris brown rules.
TJ didn't make it off the field before the coach was in his ear... he was TICKED as soon as the flag came out then made it almost to the hash and was in his ear... nice thing was that it looked like he was yelling at him at first but then got up close and I'm guessing he was saying something along the lines of "I understand your ticked but you gotta control your emotions"where did you see that? did the coach talk to him?
Exactly.A legal block? I'm sorry but that was a blatant chop block. Chop blocks are illegal and the Dolphins should have gotten penalized on that play. I hope Trent Green gets well though. And I hope that Travis gets a little bit of yelling by the coaches but I really don't think he was taunting. He was mad because he just got chop blocked. BAD. That 300+ man did a somersault! ONly way you're going to flip a guy that size is to chop block him.
yeah dont yell at the guy that could've seriously injured you...If you're pissed yell at your buddies... yell at the sky... yell at the ground... don't walk up to the guy on the ground who is not moving and yell at him... he might not have 'meant' to taunt... but it was an easy call.
Not when it is going to give you a friggin penalty... even if Green was 100% fine and just slow to get up he's going to get a penalty...yeah dont yell at the guy that could've seriously injured you...
i have no prob with what tj did.. he obviously didnt think green was seriously injured and it was a really dangerous block
I think TJ is a good guy... and understand completley being ticked... I'm just more mad because it was a horrible move on his part to yell at a guy on the ground after you make a great play because that gave Miami a TD essentially.
I agree with that for the most part - I think the act/what he did was classless/horrible however you want to put it... but I don't know the man so I can't call him anything. I'm just more ticked that we got a penalty because of him on a day when we had way too many penalties... and whether Green was hurt or not, you yell at a guy on the ground like that and you're getting flagged.horrible move yes, classless no
a penalty is a penalty, but it doesn't make you classless
look at any nfl game... you'll see guys get angry at each other all the time- alot of times its not a penalty (because tj wasnt really taunting, just angry).. i think some of ye guys are being harsh and i think theres plenty more important things to talk about after this game.. its not like he pulled a haynesworth or anythingNot when it is going to give you a friggin penalty... even if Green was 100% fine and just slow to get up he's going to get a penalty...
actually your wrong. if a player is not engaged and you dont block him from behind going low is perfectly legal.A legal block? I'm sorry but that was a blatant chop block. Chop blocks are illegal and the Dolphins should have gotten penalized on that play. I hope Trent Green gets well though. And I hope that Travis gets a little bit of yelling by the coaches but I really don't think he was taunting. He was mad because he just got chop blocked. BAD. That 300+ man did a somersault! ONly way you're going to flip a guy that size is to chop block him.
If you yell at a guy who is laying on the ground who is not on your team you will get flagged... and they haven't said what he said either... he could have easily yelled 'that's what you get' or something like that which is easily taunting..look at any nfl game... you'll see guys get angry at each other all the time- alot of times its not a penalty (because tj wasnt really taunting, just angry).. i think some of ye guys are being harsh and i think theres plenty more important things to talk about after this game.. its not like he pulled a haynesworth or anything
horrible move yes, classless no
a penalty is a penalty, but it doesn't make you classless
That's what they said on 610.I don't think it was a taunt, I think TJ was just pissed about the low hit on his knee and didn't know Green was hurt untill he was pulled away.
im done with this, i dont care what tj did, its a non-issue in the grand scheme of things, i know i would prob have done the same if i was him... green got what he deserved for a very dangerous block- we'd all be singing a different tune if tj had blown his knee out, which could've easily happenedIf you yell at a guy who is laying on the ground who is not on your team you will get flagged... and they haven't said what he said either... he could have easily yelled 'that's what you get' or something like that which is easily taunting..
it was an easy call for the refs and a stupid move that could have cost the game.
Way too many penalities over all which needs to be cleaned up before the game next week.
Hmmm. I read the articles. I want solid clarification though. Something along the lines of NFL rules. The link you provided had to do with college. You just may very well be right. This is interesting though. I didn't realize that it'd only be illegal in the trenches.actually your wrong. if a player is not engaged and you dont block him from behind going low is perfectly legal.
http://www.cavalierdaily.com/CVArticle.asp?ID=24597&pid=1344
http://sports.expertvillage.com/experts/cut-chop-block.htm
maybe you should start following gymnastics or something- now theres a sport where nothing bad ever happens to anybody.. righteousness ftw!to me your actions define who you are. didnt you watch batman. you do classless things then in my book your classless. pretty simple.
It could be legal (I am not sure, I Was pretty sure throwing a block like that to the knee was a no no though) but you don't do it.Hmmm. I read the articles. I want solid clarification though. Something along the lines of NFL rules. The link you provided had to do with college. You just may very well be right. This is interesting though. I didn't realize that it'd only be illegal in the trenches.
Whatever the rule may be, I still don't agree with the play. It was a low and extremely dangerous blow. Just not the kind of football I'd play.
Hmmm. I read the articles. I want solid clarification though. Something along the lines of NFL rules. The link you provided had to do with college. You just may very well be right. This is interesting though. I didn't realize that it'd only be illegal in the trenches.
Whatever the rule may be, I still don't agree with the play. It was a low and extremely dangerous blow. Just not the kind of football I'd play.
cute. just cause i dont like someone taunting another player that could be dead for all he nows im now a girl.maybe you should start following gymnastics or something- now theres a sport where nothing bad ever happens to anybody.. righteousness ftw!
totally classless individual. enough said....
Okay, argument is over when you start quoting batman. I thought you really made real arguments, not arguments justified by superhero rules.to me your actions define who you are. didnt you watch batman. you do classless things then in my book your classless. pretty simple.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3053104The bottom line is, it was a malicious hit. It was uncalled for,'' Johnson said. "He's like the scarecrow. He wants to get courage while I wasn't looking, and hit me in my knee instead of trying to hit me in my head. God don't like ugly, you know what I mean?
Wouldn't it be nice if there was someone who could follow you around and freak out everytime you made a bad decision or let your emotions get the better of you in about a time frame of 2 seconds. It was pretty obvious TJ didn't know Green was seriously hurt and he was obviously PO'd, but lets go ahead and blast a guy for doing something everyone here has done at one time or another.........and that's let his emotions get the better of him.to me your actions define who you are. didnt you watch batman. you do classless things then in my book your classless. pretty simple.
travis COULD'VE snapped his spinal chord when he landed after green's dangerous block...sorry sensationalism ftw!cute. just cause i dont like someone taunting another player that could be dead for all he nows im now a girl.
dude, get over it already; you're whiningJust saw the reply again... TJ went right at him... easy call...
glad TJ was not hurt - looked like Green was trying to take his legs out and I understand how he can be mad, but no need to go taunt him...
and for those of you who say it was not a taunt... when you walk up to a guy on the ground and start yellling and pointing your finger at him it's an easy taunt call.
not saying he is classless... just very stupid move on TJ after a good defensive play. I understand being angry, but you can't yell at a guy on the ground like that.
I'll wait to see the whole interview...ESPN tends to sensationalize things a bit.Its how a man reacts that defines him. Illegal block or not he turned around and saw Green slumped and lifeless. My wife even screamed about him lying there. He then conscioulsy went over and taunted him. It didn't end there.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3053104
He should have dropped it...classless
LMAO - whatever dude... I could give a rat's... I wonder how many other people would be whining if we lost this game.... that play could have been huge since it helped lead to a TD...dude, get over it already; you're whining