Trade up fans.

Looking at our roster and looking back before last year's draft, we are pretty talent deficient. That much is pretty blantantly obvious. While the offseason signings are nice so far we're looking at good depth free agents (with the exception of Green), something we've never had before. But it's said before and proven before good teams are built through the draft.

While Charles Johnson, Joe Thomas and Adrian Peterson would all look great in steel blue, the problem is cost. While i'm not sure what a team would ask i'm sure there'd be at least a day one pick in the fold at least. This team needs starters right now, a foundation to build on, and we've got a lot of holes to fill and playing people who just aren't starters around the league.

Yeah star players are great don't get me wrong, but a team of star palyers doesn't always make the playoffs. See Washington Redskins. We have three players of that cailber right now and one of them developing in Mario Williams. Some stars come straight out of the draft, while others emerge battle tested. They will come.

In the meantime looking at what you are willing to give up to get AP, CJ, or JT....could set this franchise back prohibitvely longer. Do you really expect one player to come in and set this franchise on fire? Sure it will help at first. But as the season wears on we're rolling the dice on a lot. I guess what i am getting at....how can you justify moving up for the short term while shooting ourselves in the foot longtern once again.

I think quite frankly moving up by your account is assuming we are going to be making a run at the super bowl in the next 2 years which I don't see being the case.

This draft is WEAK and I think that's putting it midly. Whatever is at #8 for us unless AP falls there would probably be a middle to late most years. So we are going to overpay for this pick. The better value talent wise is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

So unless we are going to trade back and pick up some extra's I say go get a IMPACT player. Our O-line I'd be happy with Levi Brown but would be very excited to know we've got a ROCK in Joe Thomas.

CALVIN Johnson would give us something similar imo to Wayne and Harrison except better and I think Indy does ok with those two.

You couldn't really double team anyone. Especially if Owen Daniels continues his progress. At worse you bring Mathis in as a #3 and let him run FLY routes to pull the safeties deep and let J&J work the intermediate in one on ones which they win non-stop.

I wouldn't mind trading up if we could get Russell. That would almost make up for last year's draft blunder.

PE,

Here's another thing to think about. First I'm not advocating an insane trade to move up to the top.

I would NOT give up our 2nd round pick b/c again I believe all the value is in the 2nd this year. I would give up a 1, 3, and something next year though.

My problem with trading down right now is more of how many other people feel the same way I do. That giving up the 2nd round just isn't making any sense. Plus in this draft the way I see it you might as well trade all the way out of the 1st if you're going too b/c basically by the 20th pick conservatively maybe even 15th you're picking players who talent wise grade out to the 2nd round anway but again you'll be paying 1st round money too.

I just see it being from where we are easier to trade up than down and not just b/c we are at #8.