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Chron FanBlog: Texans Courting Quinn

Exithios

Exithios

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http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2007/03/texans_still_courting_brady_qu.html

I was reading the Chronicle this morning and saw a new blog up from Thomas Hilton. It not only suggests that we may take Brady Quinn in the 1st round, but that that we may even be interested in trading up for him.

Minneapolis's Star Tribune writes:

Houston, which drafts eighth, has talked to teams about moving up so it can draft Quinn, who did a good job of selling himself on Sunday with the Houston Texans.

Let the rants begin!
 
Exithios said:
http://blogs.chron.com/fanblogtexans/2007/03/texans_still_courting_brady_qu.html

I was reading the Chronicle this morning and saw a new blog up from Thomas Hilton. It not only suggests that we may take Brady Quinn in the 1st round, but that that we may even be interested in trading up for him.

Minneapolis's Star Tribune writes:

Houston, which drafts eighth, has talked to teams about moving up so it can draft Quinn, who did a good job of selling himself on Sunday with the Houston Texans.

Let the rants begin!
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this is what I heard. Im not apposed to it just as long we dont give up our draft picks.
 
I isn't going to shock me if I see us trade Carr on draft day and make a move for Quinn.
 
I won't be terribly dissapointed to see Quinn as a Texan. The question is: Who does Kubiak like better Kolb or Brady? I think from the comments from the Texans management those 2 guys as well as Russell are at the top of the board when it comes to qbs in the draft this year. If Kubiak think a guy like Kolb can become a starter for us in a year or two then why should we draft Brady Quinn? On the other hand Quinn has had a very good career at ND and he definitely has first round talent, but with so many other question marks on our team will Kubiak reach for Quinn? I don't know..But it's a possibility that's becoming more interesting as the days go by.
 
Nawzer said:
I won't be terribly dissapointed to see Quinn as a Texan. The question is: Who does Kubiak like better Kolb or Brady? I think from the comments from the Texans management those 2 guys as well as Russell are at the top of the board when it comes to qbs in the draft this year. If Kubiak think a guy like Kolb can become a starter for us in a year or two then why should we draft Brady Quinn? On the other hand Quinn has had a very good career at ND and he definitely has first round talent, but with so many other question marks on our team will Kubiak reach for Quinn? I don't know..But it's a possibility that's becoming more interesting as the days go by.
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Kubes was there when BQ had his pro day, him and Clev coach were the only two head coaches there to watch him. I would much rather take Quinn he has already been in a NFL style offense and Charlie Weis has already said that BQ is going to be the next tom Brady. Hmm would you either take the next Tom Brady or a qb that has been in the same spread out passing friendly system for the last 8yrs. I think ill take the next TB IMO. As far as JR Kubes does not like him, he would not fit in our style of offense. He fitts perfect in Oakland where they love to throw the deep ball.
 
if Kolb didn't play for UofH half you guys wouldnt even know how to spell his name much less want him as the franchise savior. Kolb is a 3rd round talent and reminds me of Carr WAYYYY too much. His release sucks too and playing at UofH is just as bad as Fresno State. Just another small school 'system' QB. Quinn is the QB most prepared to step into the NFL in the draft. Russell has more upside and a stronger arm but is not as polished as Quinn.

Quinn reminds me of Leinart last year. He got punked by a bigger stronger QB in a bowl game and his stock dropped as the #1 pick. I think grabbing Quinn at #8 would be a total coup and that it would essentially be a mulligan after last year's moronic 1st Round drama.

The only player I want more than Quinn in this draft are AP and CJ. For Quinn to fall would be a little bit of karma coming to us after last year's signability BS.
 
Nawzer said:
I won't be terribly dissapointed to see Quinn as a Texan. The question is: Who does Kubiak like better Kolb or Brady? I think from the comments from the Texans management those 2 guys as well as Russell are at the top of the board when it comes to qbs in the draft this year. If Kubiak think a guy like Kolb can become a starter for us in a year or two then why should we draft Brady Quinn? On the other hand Quinn has had a very good career at ND and he definitely has first round talent, but with so many other question marks on our team will Kubiak reach for Quinn? I don't know..But it's a possibility that's becoming more interesting as the days go by.
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Maybe if we draft a guy like Quinn....Who is more prepared for a pro-style offense, he may start day 1....Whereas Kolb was playing from the spread and may need a lot more time....
 
Dunta_23 said:
Maybe if we draft a guy like Quinn....Who is more prepared for a pro-style offense, he may start day 1....Whereas Kolb was playing from the spread and may need a lot more time....
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I dont think he will start day 1 but I wouldnt be suprised to see him play half way through the season like all the other rookies last year. I would love to see Qunn in a texans unifor I think he will be great. IMO
 
If we draft Quinn, we need to wait to start him till 2nd year or at least till end of 1st year if we are out of contention or he has really earned it through his reps during the week. I would prefer him to wait till 2nd year to be anointed the starter. We all know what happened the last time we drafted a QB and anointed him the savior and starter from Day One. it has made the last 5 years some of the worst years of football in this city's history.
 
Vinny said:
I isn't going to shock me if I see us trade Carr on draft day and make a move for Quinn.
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I would be a little surprised if we deal Carr, simply because there isn't any one that makes a lot of sense as a replacement, given the combination of desirable skill, experience, price tag, etc. However I will be stunned if we draft Quinn.
 
jerek said:
I would be a little surprised if we deal Carr, simply because there isn't any one that makes a lot of sense as a replacement, given the combination of desirable skill, experience, price tag, etc. However I will be stunned if we draft Quinn.
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why would you be stunned?
 
texans83 said:
thats what Im going with, I think Sage can get us through the first half of the season if not the entire season while Quinn takes a back seat like most rookie Qbs.
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With all the open holes on this team in so many positions, how can the Texans afford to take a guy in the 1st round that likely won't start, and if he does start, won't have enough talent around him to get the Texans to .500?

Quinn just doesn't seem that special or different from what is out there every year in the first couple of rounds in the draft.

Just because the Texans decide they now have an issue with the QB position, doesn't mean they have to fix it this year.

Priority #1 is getting to .500 this year and I don't see drafting an average guy like Quinn that didn't have enough talent around him at Notre Dame is going to be to pull off making the Texans better given the current state of personnel.

Every pick this year is extremely precious for Kubiak to build a winner a 2008. QBs are already the riskiest positions to take in the 1st round. By the way, the Texans have never picked an offensive lineman in the first round and will have picked 2 QBs in the first round in their first 5 years of existence if they pick Quinn. It's just too expensive, and I don't see getting out of this Carr mess by drafting Quinn, it's just a reach.
 
hollywood_texan said:
With all the open holes on this team in so many positions, how can the Texans afford to take a guy in the 1st round that likely won't start, and if he does start, won't have enough talent around him to get the Texans to .500?

Quinn just doesn't seem that special or different from what is out there every year in the first couple of rounds in the draft.

Just because the Texans decide they now have an issue with the QB position, doesn't mean they have to fix it this year.

Priority #1 is getting to .500 this year and I don't see drafting an average guy like Quinn that didn't have enough talent around him at Notre Dame is going to be to pull off making the Texans better given the current state of personnel.

Every pick this year is extremely precious for Kubiak to build a winner a 2008. QBs are already the riskiest positions to take in the 1st round. By the way, the Texans have never picked an offensive lineman in the first round and will have picked 2 QBs in the first round in their first 5 years of existence if they pick Quinn. It's just too expensive, and I don't see getting out of this Carr mess by drafting Quinn, it's just a reach.
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I think priority #1 is putting guys on this team that will help them win game next year and many years to come. If they think Quinn is a guy who can make them great a few years down the line then I'm in. Getting to .500 with no direction at QB does little good. Hurts draft position and keeps the team up in the air another year.

team now has a new GM and coach. with that a fresh start. its time to lay out a 3 year plan and follow thru on it. I want playoffs in 3 yrs or bust.
 
At this point it's really hard to believe anything team management says in regards to the draft. It's all about positioning yourself to get the best player who you think will fit the team best and also perform the best. So if that player is Quinn so be it, but I would love to see a LaRon Landry or a Levi Brown as a Texan this year.
 
Trenches said:
I think priority #1 is putting guys on this team that will help them win game next year and many years to come. If they think Quinn is a guy who can make them great a few years down the line then I'm in. Getting to .500 with no direction at QB does little good. Hurts draft position and keeps the team up in the air another year.

team now has a new GM and coach. with that a fresh start. its time to lay out a 3 year plan and follow thru on it. I want playoffs in 3 yrs or bust.
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thank you for having a good head on your shoulder. The QB is prob one of the biggest positions we need to fill so why sait till next year hollywoodtexan? If we get a guy like Kolb that so many of you on here want then we might have to wait 2-3 yrs even there you cant teach god given talent, and thats what Quinn has and he would be able to start in 1 yr plus by that time we will have close to 50mil in cap room to make new key free agency picks and by the next year we should be a deff playoff contender.
 
texans83 said:
thank you for having a good head on your shoulder. The QB is prob one of the biggest positions we need to fill so why sait till next year hollywoodtexan? If we get a guy like Kolb that so many of you on here want then we might have to wait 2-3 yrs even there you cant teach god given talent, and thats what Quinn has and he would be able to start in 1 yr plus by that time we will have close to 50mil in cap room to make new key free agency picks and by the next year we should be a deff playoff contender.
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I don't see how Quinn is going to be able to start and make an immediate impact in 2007 for the Texans. If he can, then he probably could have carried Notre Dame to quality wins against top tier opponents. That is just how I see it.

A 1st round draft pick is inherently risky, QBs are probably the riskiest, where RBs are probably way overpriced for value you can find in later rounds.

I see this Quinn issue as very similar to 2002. The Texans didn't have to have a QB right away. This team has so many holes and drafting an average QB isn't going to make this team better in the short run or long run.

My preference would be offensive line or defensive secondary in the first round at #8. Taking a QB in the first round twice in five years is just a bit much. I don't see how you can really draft out of the Carr mess, it's just a strech and too much to ask from someone like Quinn that wasn't that successful because he didn't have the talent around him at Notre Dame. Most 1st round QBs don't live up to expectations, and that is the least thing the Texans can afford right now.
 
just way too simplistic look at things. "he couldn't beat USC, so he won't be able to make an immediate impact in the NFL." what?? completely unrelated events. look at the player himself.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I don't see how Quinn is going to be able to start and make an immediate impact in 2007 for the Texans. If he can, then he probably could have carried Notre Dame to quality wins against top tier opponents. That is just how I see it.

A 1st round draft pick is inherently risky, QBs are probably the riskiest, where RBs are probably way overpriced for value you can find in later rounds.

I see this Quinn issue as very similar to 2002. The Texans didn't have to have a QB right away. This team has so many holes and drafting an average QB isn't going to make this team better in the short run or long run.

My preference would be offensive line or defensive secondary in the first round at #8. Taking a QB in the first round twice in five years is just a bit much. I don't see how you can really draft out of the Carr mess, it's just a strech and too much to ask from someone like Quinn that wasn't that successful because he didn't have the talent around him at Notre Dame.
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So you say that Quinn should have won them BIg games huh? well what the hell is he going to do play defense also, come on man look out side the box. Quinn had really no offence slow recievers but he still got them the ball and their defense well man were they horrible. Quinn would have to outscore the opponet by 40 points just so they could be in it. You really didnt watch any football or any ND football this past year did you? This is a new Coach and he wants a fresh start with the QB position, how is it risky the man played in a pro style offese with a mediocure team but was still sucessfull. I just dont understand it.
 
texans83 said:
why would you be stunned?
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I've spoken about my reservations about Quinn elsewhere, but to summarize, I don't think of Quinn as much more than a poor man's Tom Brady--a game manager type who just isn't that likely to succeed, much less right away, behind our still porous offensive line. However I suspect Quinn will be relatively successful in the NFL eventually, but more importantly we have too many other more glaring needs to address and I just don't see us using our first pick and an eight figure salary on a dubious upgrade to a position that I still think we can at least simply make do with.

I think the chances of us trading up for him are nil though if he falls to us (which is possible) I'd guess we'll take a long, hard look, though I'm still at this time partial to us drafting Landry at FS.
 
hollywood_texan said:
With all the open holes on this team in so many positions, how can the Texans afford to take a guy in the 1st round that likely won't start, and if he does start, won't have enough talent around him to get the Texans to .500?
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I think we'd have been ok picking a QB last year. I can see us picking a QB with our 1st this year. There are a number of ways to address "holes"
hollywood_texan said:
Quinn just doesn't seem that special or different from what is out there every year in the first couple of rounds in the draft.
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I agree. I don't think he's that special.
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Just because the Texans decide they now have an issue with the QB position, doesn't mean they have to fix it this year.
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I agree. there has got to be something special about the guy to take him in the first round.
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Priority #1 is getting to .500 this year and I don't see drafting an average guy like Quinn that didn't have enough talent around him at Notre Dame is going to be to pull off making the Texans better given the current state of personnel.
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I've never seen a QB drafted because he has the ability to get a team to .500 as a rookie. 1st round QBs are about where they can take your team in the future. If you draft a QB & start him right away, you're saying, "we don't care about winning this year" I don't think we are there yet. I believe the Texans want to win in '07, so if we draft Quinn, it's not about what he can do for us in '07
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Every pick this year is extremely precious for Kubiak to build a winner a 2008.
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I don't think we're waiting on '08.
hollywood_texan said:
QBs are already the riskiest positions to take in the 1st round. By the way, the Texans have never picked an offensive lineman in the first round and will have picked 2 QBs in the first round in their first 5 years of existence if they pick Quinn. It's just too expensive, and I don't see getting out of this Carr mess by drafting Quinn, it's just a reach.
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Forget about Carr. The only reason we would draft Quinn, is if Kubiak/Smith believe he is special.

You don't believe he is special.

I don't believe he is special.

It isn't going to happen.

Let's stop wasting our time talking about Quinn, and get back to some good 'ole David Carr bashing. :whip:
 
texans83 said:
So you say that Quinn should have won them BIg games huh? well what the hell is he going to do play defense also, come on man look out side the box. Quinn had really no offence slow recievers but he still got them the ball and their defense well man were they horrible. Quinn would have to outscore the opponet by 40 points just so they could be in it. You really didnt watch any football or any ND football this past year did you? This is a new Coach and he wants a fresh start with the QB position, how is it risky the man played in a pro style offese with a mediocure team but was still sucessfull. I just dont understand it.
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I watched several Notre Dames games, the two that really stick out in my mind are the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls. In both of those games, I didn't see that the talent around Brady Quinn was holding him back.

You are making the same excuses for Quinn that are made for Carr, poor offensive line, no WRs, and a defense that can't hold anyone.

Charlies Weiss is suppose to be this Wizard of an offensive mind and be such a great judge of talent, yet in two years he can't pull one game out at Notre Dame to put them back in the top tier while using the amazing talent of Brady Quinn?

I said this earlier, players make the coaches, not the other way around. Having said that, I don't see Brady Quinn as that unique. Still a very good talent but not a good fit for the Texans right considering the state of the personnel.

The Texans would be better served drafting an offensive lineman or defensive secondary. Guys like Quinn are always around and if Kubiak is as good of a QB coach, he should be able to scout that talent and develop it without using a 1st round draft pick on a typical talent like Quinn.
 
thunderkyss said:
Let's stop wasting our time talking about Quinn, and get back to some good 'ole David Carr bashing. :whip:
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Quinn is Carr, remember those Diet Pepsi commercials where they zip open people? That is what is going to happen here if the Texans draft Quinn.

Quinn = Carr.

Carr probably is Quinn's father and trying to get him to go to the Dark Side.
 
boy i'd love to find players like brady quinn just lying around. every team would be a lot better.

quinn did pretty good in that fiesta bowl, actually. you're right, they probably should've been able to pull out a win or two against those high-powered teams. but on the same token, you'd expect the defense to give up less than 40 pointsin those big games. notre dame allowed more big plays than ANYone. unbelievable.

blame charlie weiss if ya want, i guess. but that has nothing to do with quinn. he did as well as he could in those situations.

you're focusing on such a ridiculous detail to make your opinion on a player and why you don't want him on your team.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I watched several Notre Dames games, the two that really stick out in my mind are the Fiesta and Sugar Bowls. In both of those games, I didn't see that the talent around Brady Quinn was holding him back.

You are making the same excuses for Quinn that are made for Carr, poor offensive line, no WRs, and a defense that can't hold anyone.

Charlies Weiss is suppose to be this Wizard of an offensive mind and be such a great judge of talent, yet in two years he can't pull one game out at Notre Dame to put them back in the top tier while using the amazing talent of Brady Quinn?

I said this earlier, players make the coaches, not the other way around. Having said that, I don't see Brady Quinn as that unique. Still a very good talent but not a good fit for the Texans right considering the state of the personnel.

The Texans would be better served drafting an offensive lineman or defensive secondary. Guys like Quinn are always around and if Kubiak is as good of a QB coach, he should be able to scout that talent and develop it without using a 1st round draft pick on a typical talent like Quinn.
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Im not making any excuses although ou make some good points but I do not aree. Quinn is very diffrent then Carr and he is already ready for the NFL. Carr in 5 seasons isent quite there yet. Quinn did the big games he has meat Michigan and what was Notre Dame berfor Quinn got there? They wernt one of the leagues top passing offenses I can assure you that. How can you say Quinn wont fit in Kubes system? They pretty muuch run the same system the texans run. A bunch of play action!!
 
kastofsna said:
boy i'd love to find players like brady quinn just lying around. every team would be a lot better.

quinn did pretty good in that fiesta bowl, actually. you're right, they probably should've been able to pull out a win or two against those high-powered teams. but on the same token, you'd expect the defense to give up less than 40 pointsin those big games. notre dame allowed more big plays than ANYone. unbelievable.

blame charlie weiss if ya want, i guess. but that has nothing to do with quinn. he did as well as he could in those situations.

you're focusing on such a ridiculous detail to make your opinion on a player and why you don't want him on your team.
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Quoted for Truth!
 
Vinny said:
I isn't going to shock me if I see us trade Carr on draft day and make a move for Quinn.
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If thats what they are going to do, then do it. Finally start to get good and its thanks for everything Dave see yea. Freaking got to love it dont you. Been a freakin punching bag while your team gets better then ditch him.
 
Hulk75 said:
If thats what they are going to do, then do it. Finally start to get good and its thanks for everything Dave see yea. Freaking got to love it dont you. Been a freakin punching bag while your team gets better then ditch him.
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hahaa dude its nothing personal but its time we went our seperate ways.
 
kastofsna said:
you're focusing on such a ridiculous detail to make your opinion on a player and why you don't want him on your team.
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It's the detail that makes or break your team. It's also the detail that is important in picking a Franchise QB that you are hitching yourself too for the next 5 years or so.

I am just not sold on Quinn. For the record, I am rarely sold on QBs in the first round. They normally don't live up to expecations, just look at the last 10 drafts of the 1st round and you see a very high failure rate.

There is no question Quinn has physical talent and the work ethic. It's just the play on the field isn't to a high of standard to take in the 1st round by the Texans considering all the other needs this team has. Just my opinion.

I qualify that with one item, how did the interviews go with Quinn and how willing is he to work within the system and do what he is told?

You have to admit, taking a Quinn is a bit of a strech, particularly when the Texans still haven't addressed issues with the offensive line and has a defense that can musceled around, which are the reasons you give why Quinn wasn't that successful at Notre Dame when it comes to the big game.
 
if you drafted players for one year, then it'd be a bad idea to draft quinn now before fully addressing the o-line and defense. but...it's a long term situation, no? rome wasn't built overnight. and super bowl winners weren't either.
 
Hulk75 said:
If thats what they are going to do, then do it. Finally start to get good and its thanks for everything Dave see yea. Freaking got to love it dont you. Been a freakin punching bag while your team gets better then ditch him.
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Hulk, for what it is worth to ya, I would rather have Carr as the QB next year than Brady Quinn.
 
Why would the prefer kolb? I know high school quarterbacks who would be more appealing than kolb...but of course they don't have houston swinging at their nuts like kolb does with all the houston fans...for no apparent reason because he is 6th to 7th round talent at best.
 
Hulk75 said:
If thats what they are going to do, then do it. Finally start to get good and its thanks for everything Dave see yea. Freaking got to love it dont you. Been a freakin punching bag while your team gets better then ditch him.
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I think you have this out of order. "...you ditch him then your team gets better" is more accurate, to me. Nothing in David's play has made him appear to be part of the solution to improving the team.
 
Hulk75 said:
If thats what they are going to do, then do it. Finally start to get good and its thanks for everything Dave see yea. Freaking got to love it dont you. Been a freakin punching bag while your team gets better then ditch him.
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Life's rough all over. If it hurts so bad, maybe a donation to a certain swine would alleviate the pain? :marionaner:
 
kastofsna said:
if you drafted players for one year, then it'd be a bad idea to draft quinn now before fully addressing the o-line and defense. but...it's a long term situation, no? rome wasn't built overnight. and super bowl winners weren't either.
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Agreed on building a Super Bowl winner takes time and a plan.

But, I don't see drafting Quinn is all that critical at this juncture for the Texans.
 
yourfavoritetexan42 said:
Why would the prefer kolb? I know high school quarterbacks who would be more appealing than kolb...but of course they don't have houston swinging at their nuts like kolb does with all the houston fans...for no apparent reason because he is 6th to 7th round talent at best.
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Finially someone who thinks clearly!!! This is what ive been saying. Good to have someone to relate to.
 
yourfavoritetexan42 said:
Why would the prefer kolb? I know high school quarterbacks who would be more appealing than kolb...but of course they don't have houston swinging at their nuts like kolb does with all the houston fans...for no apparent reason because he is 6th to 7th round talent at best.
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based on your posts against kolb, your ONLY reasoning against kolb is that people like him. pretty comical analysis.
 
kastofsna said:
based on your posts against kolb, your ONLY reasoning against kolb is that people like him. pretty comical analysis.
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nah, ive given my logical reason many times, but I thought people were tired of hearing it...so here ill give it once more:

Kolb is 6-3 225 your average quarterback size and weight. He puts up some alright numbers, don't get me wrong. But if Lousiana Lafeyette and Southern Miss are those defenses that have your number, I do not want to see what the patriots or bears defense might do to you. Yes I know football is a team sport... but he was the leader of that team, and two consecutive losses to programs that, well, just suck, isn't impressive. He was put on center stage against a decent south carolina team, he chokes, throwing one stupid interception and not able to get anythign going in the second half in order to give houston a win in their rare bowl game appearance.

He had decent stats, has ok arm strength and he actually is pretty smart wiht the ball, that is when their schedule is stacked UCF and southern methodist. I wonder if the Texans can schedule those two schools in for preseason...that a way they can win over a few more fans hearts over kolb... Other than that he is a mediocre quarterback in college, and that translates to a holder at best in the nfl.
 
hollywood_texan said:
I don't see how Quinn is going to be able to start and make an immediate impact in 2007 for the Texans. If he can, then he probably could have carried Notre Dame to quality wins against top tier opponents. That is just how I see it.
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That's the silliest logic I've ever heard. Either he averages 45 ppg against the most elite college defenses in the country, or he can't be of any use to an NFL team?
 
Hopefully it is just rumor. In my opinion there are only three players you trade up for in this draft - Johnson, Thomas and Peterson. Moreover, there is only one that fits a glaring need, Thomas. Outside of that it makes no sense fiscally to let go of a high priced QB who never realized his potential to take one that will potentially hamstring us again from a cap perspective as we will be talking about potential, again, until he is put into production.

We cannot mortgage out future for Quinn. If he is at eight, then he has value for us.
 
yourfavoritetexan42 said:
nah, ive given my logical reason many times, but I thought people were tired of hearing it...so here ill give it once more:

Kolb is 6-3 225 your average quarterback size and weight. He puts up some alright numbers, don't get me wrong. But if Lousiana Lafeyette and Southern Miss are those defenses that have your number, I do not want to see what the patriots or bears defense might do to you. Yes I know football is a team sport... but he was the leader of that team, and two consecutive losses to programs that, well, just suck, isn't impressive. He was put on center stage against a decent south carolina team, he chokes, throwing one stupid interception and not able to get anythign going in the second half in order to give houston a win in their rare bowl game appearance.

He had decent stats, has ok arm strength and he actually is pretty smart wiht the ball, that is when their schedule is stacked UCF and southern methodist. I wonder if the Texans can schedule those two schools in for preseason...that a way they can win over a few more fans hearts over kolb... Other than that he is a mediocre quarterback in college, and that translates to a holder at best in the nfl.
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I know you're mainly talking about that as a QB position...but you're making a case to ONLY draft QB's from the big schools...the big conferences.... That's a very bad arguement. i know what you're getting at but...Tony Romo beat a few pretty good teams this year and he went to where? South East Illinois State A&M community college? something like that.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Hopefully it is just rumor. In my opinion there are only three players you trade up for in this draft - Johnson, Thomas and Peterson. Moreover, there is only one that fits a glaring need, Thomas. Outside of that it makes no sense fiscally to let go of a high priced QB who never realized his potential to take one that will potentially hamstring us again from a cap perspective as we will be talking about potential, again, until he is put into production.

We cannot mortgage out future for Quinn. If he is at eight, then he has value for us.
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I agree with this...

I'm against trading up for Quinn...I'd rather just sit and take Landry or BPA...
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Hopefully it is just rumor. In my opinion there are only three players you trade up for in this draft - Johnson, Thomas and Peterson. Moreover, there is only one that fits a glaring need, Thomas. Outside of that it makes no sense fiscally to let go of a high priced QB who never realized his potential to take one that will potentially hamstring us again from a cap perspective as we will be talking about potential, again, until he is put into production.

We cannot mortgage out future for Quinn. If he is at eight, then he has value for us.
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i can agree with that.
 
I wouldn't mind Quinn, but I don't want to trade up for him. We need all the draft picks we can get.
 
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