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right in the middle of the combine! fun.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
4. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Arizona - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
11. San Francisco - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State
12. Buffalo - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
13. St. Louis - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Carolina - Levi Brown, T, Penn State
15. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
17. Jacksonville - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
18. Cincinnati - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
19. Tennessee - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
20. New York Giants - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Denver - Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
22. Dallas - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, NC State
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
24. New England (from Seattle) - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
25. New York Jets - Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
26. Philadelphia - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
27. New Orleans - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
28. New England - Steve Smith, WR, USC
29. Baltimore - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
30. San Diego - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
31. Chicago - Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
32. Indianapolis - Buster Davis, LB, Florida State
 
ordinarily i give you hell about whatever you post, but I really, really, really, really hope your right about AP falling to us at 8
 
i highly doubt that chris houston is the first corner drafted, and i also dont think reggie nelson will fall that far.
 
kast--
does okoye at #4 have anything to do with gruden's work with him at the Senior Bowl? or is this just scuttlebutt you are hearing?
 
kastofsna said:
right in the middle of the combine! fun.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
4. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Arizona - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
11. San Francisco - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State
12. Buffalo - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
13. St. Louis - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Carolina - Levi Brown, T, Penn State
15. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
17. Jacksonville - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
18. Cincinnati - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
19. Tennessee - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
20. New York Giants - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Denver - Charles Davis, DE, Georgia
22. Dallas - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, NC State
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
24. New England (from Seattle) - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
25. New York Jets - Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
26. Philadelphia - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
27. New Orleans - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
28. New England - Steve Smith, WR, USC
29. Baltimore - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
30. San Diego - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
31. Chicago - Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
32. Indianapolis - Buster Davis, LB, Florida State
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If it falls this way, would this be the first time in draft history that Dlinemen placed 5 of top 10 places?
 
dirty steve said:
kast--
does okoye at #4 have anything to do with gruden's work with him at the Senior Bowl? or is this just scuttlebutt you are hearing?
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more of the former. the only scuttlebutt i've really heard in regards to the bucs' pick is that monte kiffin really likes adam carriker. okoye just fits the defense perfectly. and booger macfarland is gone.
 
kastofsna said:
more of the former. the only scuttlebutt i've really heard in regards to the bucs' pick is that monte kiffin really likes adam carriker. okoye just fits the defense perfectly. and booger macfarland is gone.
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Some people do not have Okoye in top 10. Is this a need pick and worry about value later? Everything I read says he need 2-3 years to hit stride. Of course that is about where Mario WIlliams is.
 
Meloy said:
Some people do not have Okoye in top 10. Is this a need pick and worry about value later? Everything I read says he need 2-3 years to hit stride. Of course that is about where Mario WIlliams is.
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the value is there. i suppose he could be had a few spots later, but he wouldn't drop out of the top 10.
 
baba ganoush said:
i highly doubt that chris houston is the first corner drafted, and i also dont think reggie nelson will fall that far.
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After he runs a 4.3 and looks back at Revis 4.4 and Hall 4.5 at the combine he will.

Denver, I am sure you meant Charles Johnson not Davis
 
baba ganoush said:
i highly doubt that chris houston is the first corner drafted, and i also dont think reggie nelson will fall that far.
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He's a true cover corner. Those guys always shoot up the boards. Do some research on his preformances against some of the SEC tallent on the board this year at WR ...it's not a reach. He played well against them in press coverage. Get the QB, protect the QB, deffend the QB, that is the modern era in the draft in a nut shell. Those are the skill set that comand the money. He posts 4.4 sunday...he'll go higher than projected by the mockers. Saftey's, barring Sean Taylor like numbers, tend fall unless they got a skill set for a corner back transition.
 
I'm not going to rehash old arguments, Kast. It's a good mock.

• The timing of the Raiders' decision not to pay Aaron Brooks' $5 million roster bonus was interesting. The Raiders are preparing to watch LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell throw at the combine. Andrew Walter is the only quarterback on the roster with experience, so it seems to be a sure thing that Russell will go to the Raiders as the first pick in the draft.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2775871

Still saying big Al doesn't pass up his chance to stick it to everyone from the grave. Not saying that CJ isn't the best player on the board. Saying Jamarcus is too sweet a prospect for Big Al to pass up.
 
Not too bad, but Landry won't fall that far.

The reason I always give you a hard time about LaRon and Jamarcus is because I'm a huge LSU fan and I've watched every snap these guys have played. LaRon Landry is in the same category as Sean Taylor and Ed Reed. He's going to be incredible. So I feel I can comment more on LSU players than the average person.

P.S. you don't think Dwayne Bowe will go first round?
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;603091 said:
Not too bad, but Landry won't fall that far.

The reason I always give you a hard time about LaRon and Jamarcus is because I'm a huge LSU fan and I've watched every snap these guys have played. LaRon Landry is in the same category as Sean Taylor and Ed Reed. He's going to be incredible. So I feel I can comment more on LSU players than the average person.

P.S. you don't think Dwayne Bowe will go first round?
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I really see Laron going 11-14.
 
landry should go, but it's a matter of whose drafting there. i think if atlanta doesn't pull the trigger, then no one will for a little while. good trade-up scenario there, though.

im thinking of swapping jarrett and dwayne bowe. jarrett may not be a first rounder when it's all said and done. although i'm sure SOMEONE will take him.
 
beerlover said:
just code for Katz "man-love" on okoye being a top 5 pick & Quinn becoming a fish :heh:
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i don't really have much man-love for okoye. i've spoken up on how i dont want miami to draft him at all. i'm just stating the facts. he's a great prospect and the bucs love him.
 
kastofsna said:
right in the middle of the combine! fun.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
4. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Arizona - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
11. San Francisco - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State
12. Buffalo - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
13. St. Louis - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Carolina - Levi Brown, T, Penn State
15. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
17. Jacksonville - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
18. Cincinnati - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
19. Tennessee - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
20. New York Giants - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Denver - Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
22. Dallas - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, NC State
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
24. New England (from Seattle) - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
25. New York Jets - Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
26. Philadelphia - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
27. New Orleans - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
28. New England - Steve Smith, WR, USC
29. Baltimore - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
30. San Diego - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
31. Chicago - Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
32. Indianapolis - Buster Davis, LB, Florida State
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Tell me why Chicago's drafting Zach Miller and not Paul Pozluszny...
 
i believe there's a rule somewhere in the draft bylaws that you can't draft a player that's already been selected.
 
kastofsna said:
i believe there's a rule somewhere in the draft bylaws that you can't draft a player that's already been selected.
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I think I have heard that as well.:winky:

It looks good. I could see Atlanta taking one of the safeties also (of course they could take almost any Defense Position and fill a need).
 
kastofsna said:
right in the middle of the combine! fun.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
4. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Arizona - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
11. San Francisco - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State
12. Buffalo - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
13. St. Louis - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Carolina - Levi Brown, T, Penn State
15. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
17. Jacksonville - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
18. Cincinnati - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
19. Tennessee - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
20. New York Giants - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Denver - Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
22. Dallas - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, NC State
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
24. New England (from Seattle) - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
25. New York Jets - Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
26. Philadelphia - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
27. New Orleans - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
28. New England - Steve Smith, WR, USC
29. Baltimore - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
30. San Diego - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
31. Chicago - Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
32. Indianapolis - Buster Davis, LB, Florida State
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Interesting mock kast. I still think/hope Okoye is there for us at #8 and that the Texans select him, but I imagine that if AP is there they will for sure take him instead. Although, I still believe Cleveland will take AP at #3.

Also, don't be too surprised if Arizona takes Brown at #5, or at least tries to trade down and get him with a lower pick. They need someone to replace Davis now and Brown's stock has been rising. His Combine could possibly push him that high, just have to wait and see. JMHO!
 
Insideop said:
Interesting mock kast. I still think/hope Okoye is there for us at #8 and that the Texans select him, but I imagine that if AP is there they will for sure take him instead. Although, I still believe Cleveland will take AP at #3.

Also, don't be too surprised if Arizona takes Brown at #5, or at least tries to trade down and get him with a lower pick. They need someone to replace Davis now and Brown's stock has been rising. His Combine could possibly push him that high, just have to wait and see. JMHO!
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Just one question.

Where do you project Okoye to play on the Texans's D-Line?
 
Just asking Kast, because you have AD dropping to 8, & I think you've been pretty consistent with that thought.

Do you think Reggie Bush is that much better than AD, that you had Reggie rated above two franchise QBs, but AD rated behind DTs, DEs, OLTs... etc??
 
threetoedpete said:
He's a true cover corner. Those guys always shoot up the boards. Do some research on his preformances against some of the SEC tallent on the board this year at WR ...it's not a reach. He played well against them in press coverage. Get the QB, protect the QB, deffend the QB, that is the modern era in the draft in a nut shell. Those are the skill set that comand the money. He posts 4.4 sunday...he'll go higher than projected by the mockers. Saftey's, barring Sean Taylor like numbers, tend fall unless they got a skill set for a corner back transition.
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Just how good is he??

I have man love for true cover corners would it be insane to take him at #8??

Educate me people, I don't see any college ball over here.

How exciting a cover corner in the draft :doot:
 
thunderkyss said:
Just asking Kast, because you have AD dropping to 8, & I think you've been pretty consistent with that thought.

Do you think Reggie Bush is that much better than AD, that you had Reggie rated above two franchise QBs, but AD rated behind DTs, DEs, OLTs... etc??
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not really sure what you're saying. where i have a player going in a draft isnt indicative about how i feel about them. i think adam carriker is the best defensive player in this draft. he's going #10 overall. i think peterson is the best RB prospect since barry sanders. doesn't mean he's the first player taken.
 
kastofsna said:
i believe there's a rule somewhere in the draft bylaws that you can't draft a player that's already been selected.
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haha. i know that, but no way does Pozluzsny go any higher than 31 to the Bears. At 17, I expect Jacksonville to go for a playmaking, speedy WR.
 
Jacksonville has a lot invested in wideouts already and are high on Jones and Williams still from what I hear.

Also plenty of decent WR's in this years draft.
 
kiwitexansfan said:
Jacksonville has a lot invested in wideouts already and are high on Jones and Williams still from what I hear.

Also plenty of decent WR's in this years draft.
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They lack a speedy WR though. Jones, Wilford, and Williams are all tall, possession receivers who lack breakaway speed and hardcore playmaking ability. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sidney Rice land here at #17.
 
kastofsna said:
right in the middle of the combine! fun.

1. Oakland - Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
2. Detroit - Joe Thomas, T, Wisconsin
3. Cleveland - JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
4. Tampa Bay - Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
5. Arizona - Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
6. Washington - Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7. Minnesota - Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
8. Houston - Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9. Miami - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10. Atlanta - Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
11. San Francisco - Ted Ginn, Jr, WR, Ohio State
12. Buffalo - Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
13. St. Louis - Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
14. Carolina - Levi Brown, T, Penn State
15. Pittsburgh - Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
16. Green Bay - Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal
17. Jacksonville - Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
18. Cincinnati - LaRon Landry, S, LSU
19. Tennessee - Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
20. New York Giants - Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21. Denver - Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
22. Dallas - DeMarcus Tyler, DT, NC State
23. Kansas City - Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
24. New England (from Seattle) - Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
25. New York Jets - Daymeion Hughes, CB, Cal
26. Philadelphia - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
27. New Orleans - Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
28. New England - Steve Smith, WR, USC
29. Baltimore - Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
30. San Diego - Reggie Nelson, S, Florida
31. Chicago - Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
32. Indianapolis - Buster Davis, LB, Florida State
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Leon Hall is a joke. Combine #'s are worthless to me. When does a player ever stand 7 yards from the endzone and do a broad jump into it???

Back to the first sentence. Hall got burned by Jarrett and Ginn, NOW you're gonna tell me that just because of a 4.5 40, he's back in the 'first round' discussion...HA. This guy will not turn into anything spectacular at the next level. If I were the Giants (or any team picking in the 1st round) I would save my money and not waste my time on this joke of a CB.
 
kastofsna said:
not really sure what you're saying. where i have a player going in a draft isnt indicative about how i feel about them. i think adam carriker is the best defensive player in this draft. he's going #10 overall. i think peterson is the best RB prospect since barry sanders. doesn't mean he's the first player taken.
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So how do you place them??
 
kastofsna said:
not really sure what you're saying. where i have a player going in a draft isnt indicative about how i feel about them. i think adam carriker is the best defensive player in this draft. he's going #10 overall. i think peterson is the best RB prospect since barry sanders. doesn't mean he's the first player taken.
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I don't mean this in a negative way at all. But, are you anything more than a huge football follower? I mean, do you work for the Texans, or Scouts, Inc. or something?

Adam Carriker, best defensive player in the draft?!
Leon Hall?! runs in the 4.5 range, so now he's a top CB? He's been extremely overrated all year.

I run a 4.47, do you think I have a chance to be a top pick? I mean, I'm sure I would get beaten by a guy like Ginn or Jarrett or Rice in a game..But hey, I run fast.

PFT.

I'm in no way coming down on you, so i apologize if it sounds that way. I'm just disagreeing with your entire 'draft ideology'. What a player does on gameday is what gets him drafted. NOT what he does at the combine. OR, at least that's the way it should be.
 
I agree with K that each of us have a different opinion of which players are the best - but the opinions of others are what effects draft order. So, even if I thought AP was the next Dickerson or Quinn was the next coming of Montana, my mock still would not have then going first overall - because other opinions are not aligned with mine. On the other hand, if a team really believes a player is that good - they should target them higher than other teams rankings (because of smoke screens hiding true opinions).

My input on the mock: I think Minn takes a qb if either of the top 2 is there. I think Cleve takes AP - he is just too good.
 
Navy_Chris said:
I don't mean this in a negative way at all. But, are you anything more than a huge football follower? I mean, do you work for the Texans, or Scouts, Inc. or something?

Adam Carriker, best defensive player in the draft?!
Leon Hall?! runs in the 4.5 range, so now he's a top CB? He's been extremely overrated all year.

I run a 4.47, do you think I have a chance to be a top pick? I mean, I'm sure I would get beaten by a guy like Ginn or Jarrett or Rice in a game..But hey, I run fast.

PFT.

I'm in no way coming down on you, so i apologize if it sounds that way. I'm just disagreeing with your entire 'draft ideology'. What a player does on gameday is what gets him drafted. NOT what he does at the combine. OR, at least that's the way it should be.
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i'm not sure why you keep talking about leon hall, i've never said he was that great, in fact i have him going a lot lower than most people who still see him as the best corner in the draft. he's not. however, he's not nearly as awful as you pretend he is. he's got tons of experience, he's very technically sound and while he's not as gifted as houston or revis or some other guys, he's still a first rounder.

and i've been talking about carriker all year long. long before the combine or senior bowl.
 
kastofsna said:
i'm not sure why you keep talking about leon hall, i've never said he was that great, in fact i have him going a lot lower than most people who still see him as the best corner in the draft. he's not. however, he's not nearly as awful as you pretend he is. he's got tons of experience, he's very technically sound and while he's not as gifted as houston or revis or some other guys, he's still a first rounder.

and i've been talking about carriker all year long. long before the combine or senior bowl.
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This is true. Kastofsna has been pimp Carriker all year long. Leon Hall is overrated, but still a 1st rounder. He won't be a huge impact rookie, but he will be a solid player.
 
kastofsna said:
landry should go, but it's a matter of whose drafting there. i think if atlanta doesn't pull the trigger, then no one will for a little while. good trade-up scenario there, though.

im thinking of swapping jarrett and dwayne bowe. jarrett may not be a first rounder when it's all said and done. although i'm sure SOMEONE will take him.
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If the Titans traded up and got Landry I would have no problem with that.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
This is true. Kastofsna has been pimp Carriker all year long. Leon Hall is overrated, but still a 1st rounder. He won't be a huge impact rookie, but he will be a solid player.
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This just in....

You don't take "solid" players in Round 1. You take immediate impact guys. Guys that produce from Day 1. You also look for guys who have tremendous upside. I'm sorry, but Leon Hall, in my opinion, WILL NOT be an immediate impact guy, NOR does he have the kind of potential that you look for in a 1st Round pick. I would honestly take my chances on Day 2 with guys like Corey Graham or Michael Coe before I'd even entertain a thought on Leon Hall.
This guy looked ABSOLUTELY ridiculous trying to cover Jarrett and Ginn, two top WR prospects. And now you're trying to tell me that because of a good combine workout he's a first round pick?.....?.....
 
kastofsna said:
for the love of pete, hall didn't cover jarrett at all in that game.
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my bad! ok, Leon Hall did not cover Dwayne Jarrett everybody. Leon Hall IS the best corner in the draft. kastofsna is right about everything. his mock is the best i've ever seen.

Here's the deal, i'll give you my first round mock and you send me yours...i guess we'll have to see who's closest.
 
CowboysTexansFan said:
How much, if any, do you think Levi Brown's slow time in the 40 is going to impact his desirability? PFT is reporting he ran a 5.39.
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I know this question wasn't for me, it was for the great kastofsna, but i think i'll attempt to answer this one. kastofsna, tell me if i'm right or wrong...ok.

Offensive linemen are not judged solely on their time. Coaches more or less look at HOW they run the 40....do they get a good enough explosion at the start? do they have good balance..body control? No, I don't care if he ran a 5.8. Coaches wouldn't care less about what his time was.
 
Navy_Chris said:
my bad! ok, Leon Hall did not cover Dwayne Jarrett everybody. Leon Hall IS the best corner in the draft. kastofsna is right about everything. his mock is the best i've ever seen.

Here's the deal, i'll give you my first round mock and you send me yours...i guess we'll have to see who's closest.
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lol, your hatred against hall is amazing. i said he's not the best corner in the draft. 3rd or 4th. i've criticized people for having the dolphins select him in their mocks for a while. there's really no reason at all to think i have some ridiculous love affair with leon hall, in fact, since i have him going lower compared to most other mocks, i'd expect you to throw some praise my way. but hey, whatever floats your boat son.
 
Navy_Chris said:
I know this question wasn't for me, it was for the great kastofsna, but i think i'll attempt to answer this one. kastofsna, tell me if i'm right or wrong...ok.

Offensive linemen are not judged solely on their time. Coaches more or less look at HOW they run the 40....do they get a good enough explosion at the start? do they have good balance..body control? No, I don't care if he ran a 5.8. Coaches wouldn't care less about what his time was.
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pretty much every player's 10-yard splits are important with the 40. the 40 for linemen is more just to determine how much of an overall athlete they are, it's not like coaches really care that much. unless it's drastically low.
 
kastofsna said:
lol, your hatred against hall is amazing. i said he's not the best corner in the draft. 3rd or 4th. i've criticized people for having the dolphins select him in their mocks for a while. there's really no reason at all to think i have some ridiculous love affair with leon hall, in fact, since i have him going lower compared to most other mocks, i'd expect you to throw some praise my way. but hey, whatever floats your boat son.
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I mean, I'll give you some praise for not having him rated over some of the others out there. I'm not trying to argue with you as much as I'm arguing against the fact the Hall is going to be a first round pick, when at times he has played like he has no business being on the field. I'd take him in the 3rd or something if I needed a corner and he was still there, but to say he's a 1st rounder is a stretch, in my opinion.
 
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