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What about Domanic Rhodes?

El Tejano

El Tejano

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I understand he is scheduled to be a FA and I think Indy will let him go.

Considering how we might not make that big of a splash in FA and guys like Michael Turner being priced real high and us wanting to spend the majority of our dollars on defense, what do yall think of the idea of Rhodes coming to Houston.

He is a pretty good back and can catch out the back field with alot of winning experience, not to mention from a division rival.
 
I've never been impressed with Rhodes. Reminds me of Jonathan Wells...just not your everyday down back.

I'm officially starting the "bring Ricky to Houston club".
 
I would not be opposed to him coming here, but I would look to see who else is out there first. And as for Ricky, well that would be worth looking into if he would accept a contract that is incentive loaded and not high dollar. He is still too much a risk with his past drug use, so if he and his agent would go for it that way, sure, Ricky would be a good addition to the backfield.
 
I thought that he looked really good against KC.

Addai's the guy at IND, so I think Rhodes will want to get more reps somewhere else. He's also from Texas, so I think that we would have a better chance at getting him than somebody like Michael Turner.

He's no Tomlinson, but I think he'd be a good RB to rotate with Ron Dayne.
 
It's a joke about our current Domanic who changed his last name from Davis to Williams. Having another Domanic could confuse people to think our Domanic changed his name from Davis, to Williams, to Rhodes.
 
El Tejano said:
I understand he is scheduled to be a FA and I think Indy will let him go.

Considering how we might not make that big of a splash in FA and guys like Michael Turner being priced real high and us wanting to spend the majority of our dollars on defense, what do yall think of the idea of Rhodes coming to Houston.

He is a pretty good back and can catch out the back field with alot of winning experience, not to mention from a division rival.
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No, we need a stud, Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis in a trade, draft one early or get this team a legit back and a reall run game and the preasure will be taken of the neck of the OLine and QB.

*AP, Lynch, Portis
back ups- Chris Taylor and Ron Dayne:secret:

Thats $$$$$$$$.
 
Hulk75 said:
No, we need a stud, Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis in a trade, draft one early or get this team a legit back and a reall run game and the preasure will be taken of the neck of the OLine and QB.

*AP, Lynch, Portis
back ups- Chris Taylor and Ron Dayne:secret:

Thats $$$$$$$$.
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Hmmm....I wonder what Ron and Chris would think if they read your statement about how we need a "stud?"

Kubiak would be wise to go DL or OL, or to trade down and go DB (Landry or Nelson, in that order).
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
Hmmm....I wonder what Ron and Chris would think if they read your statement about how we need a "stud?"

Kubiak would be wise to go DL or OL, or to trade down and go DB (Landry or Nelson, in that order).
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What is your problem, "I wonder what they would think" bull stuff, 3rd grade cra-p, this is me and it has no Affiliation with anyone I know...........Grow the freak up and stop acting like little school children, why not go taddle tell on me why your at it, go tell the yard duty that I punked you for your milk money.

And what I said is true, just tell me when I am not telling the truth.

And just stop nothing you say maters to me, it is just unbelieveable that some argue like little children, and he is sitting there right now trying to think of a reall crusher.
 
Hulk75 said:
What is your problem, "I wonder what they would think" bull stuff, 3rd grade cra-p, this is me and it has no Affiliation with anyone I know...........Grow the freak up and stop acting like little school children, why not go taddle tell on me why your at it, go tell the yard duty that I punked you for your milk money.

And what I said is true, just tell me when I am not telling the truth.

And just stop nothing you say maters to me, it is just unbelieveable that some argue like little children, and he is sitting there right now trying to think of a reall crusher.
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I'm the one that needs to grow up?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I need an interpreter to understand what your last sentence actually means.

1. You outed yourself as David's brother when you said in your own posts that you are his brother. And in addition, you come here and attempt to rub our noses in how you're soooooooooooo close with the team and blah-blah-blah, and how we know nothing and you're smarter and more wise than we are. You're the one who reeks of junior high antics. Congratulations! You're his brother, and you;re coming here and making an arse of yourself by being blind to the fact that although you're his brother, they lied to him or to whomever David overheard when David says he heard that we were taking Reggie Bush. David doesn't know everything, and he'll be the last to know IF he his let go from the team or traded, etc. So stop trying to leverage your position as David's borther as if that guarantees you the "true" stance on David as the future QB or for any other Texans-related personnel moves for that matter. They smoke-screened David about Reggie, so what else would they smoke-screen, huh?

2. You will never have any objective analysis about the QB position as long as David is the QB. And thus you cannot understand why people ignore what you say about it, and you also rip people a new one for having anything other than a glowing report on David.

You used to be fairly humble about stuff. And now you're just rushing onto the board like a raging bull in a china closet. I kept the promise I made to you back in March of 2006, to not tell anyone I knew who you were. I made an allegiance with you and you came on here and outed yourself recently when you said "This is my last post...."

You've gone full tilt, Darren. Period.

And that goes for QB75, too. I wonder who that is, hmmm? Perhaps David himself? His dad? The other son? There's no profile info on QB75...and yet 100% of his posts are in the Carr threads and nothing but pro-Carr replies.

It's nice to know that 99.9% of the board posters here are at least not Carr family members, this way we can at least know that 99.9% of the time we'll be reading objective analysis that isn't tainted by familial affiliations with the Carr family.

I'm 100% OFF the Carr bandwagon. Get anybody in here, TODAY! The arrogance and the uppity snooty attitude is enough to say that I want them back in California where they can make appearances at Stockdale High and continue to get NOTHING but what they think they should get and what they think they deserve: Glowing praise and honor for who they are. All of it reeks of "Nobody likes us" whining.

Is that grown up enough for you, Hulkster? I kept my promise the whole way, for you, and you outed yourself so you could go full tilt and go balls to the wall with your rants about how much better you are and how much more inside information you have than us, and blah-blah-blah. You couldn't keep it a secret any longer because you have selfish motives for revealing who you are: You DESIRE to be known as being David's brother and you DESIRE to use it as a way to say that we're stupid and you're smarter. That really doesn't buy you a lot of points, Hulk75, if you ask me. You've dug yourself an even deeper grave as far as that all goes. You seriously miscalculated this particular move (the move to out yourself).

You ain't lived in Texas long enough, bro. Don't act as though being here for a few years buys you any favors, OK? We see the HEART here in Texas, and it's obvious you have NO allegiance to Houston Texans at all. You're looking out for the family reputation. It's like another poster said: "Would you still come here if David had left the team?"

No, you wouldn't. So just HOW seriously can we take you at your opinions on OUR team?

And IF you are sooo much smarter than us, Hulk, and IF you are so very close to the team as you say you are, and IF you care so much about David and his locker room presence with the guys, then why do you rag Dayne and Taylor by saying that we need "a stud" in here at RB? That's a risky move to make those statements and think that they won;t find out about it. Yeah, go high-five Dayne in the locker room tomorrow when you just said that he nor Taylor are a stud around here. Nice, smart move, Hulk. (rolls eyes) Because YOU saying that is just as good as DAVID saying it....because you and David are on the same page, right?

You have so very little clue about how politics and human relations are to be utilized in the real world. You cannot come here and spew your stuff and then think that it just stays here and it doesn't have ramifications down the road for you or for David. Think two moves ahead before you make statements like that...it might impact the locker room and David's leadership. But of course, that takes a back seat to you telling us who you are and how stupid WE are since we don't have "Carr" as a last name.
 
El Tejano said:
I understand he is scheduled to be a FA and I think Indy will let him go.

Considering how we might not make that big of a splash in FA and guys like Michael Turner being priced real high and us wanting to spend the majority of our dollars on defense, what do yall think of the idea of Rhodes coming to Houston.

He is a pretty good back and can catch out the back field with alot of winning experience, not to mention from a division rival.
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Hmm a good point and it could be that Rhodes is the answer, but i'm not sure I want to make the deal just yet. If we wait some other options might come open, but may not be much better. The Draft is a coin toss for sure, but we could get lucky like Lance from the Chronicle says and get AP,
http://blogs.chron.com/fantasyfootball/

But then again waiting untill the draft is dicey and no guarantee either we get a decent back as Rhodes and any other average RB may all be signed.

IMO Rhodes was average in Indy and we need a little bit better than average back here to make a difference so which way do we go?

A little crying over last year - I honestly didnt see DD making it back and thought we should have went after Thomas Jones from the Bears as I felt he could be the guy for us here and the bears had made Benson the starter in camp. Well 1 year later look whos their starting RB again.
Bottom line is no easy answer at this point.

My hunch is we wait till the draft and address RB. If we dont get our guy there we start bringing in every FA we can for workouts and sign a guy to compete with Dominic, Dayne, Taylor & Lundy in camp.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I'm the one that needs to grow up?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I need an interpreter to understand what your last sentence actually means.

1. You outed yourself as David's brother when you said in your own posts that you are his brother. And in addition, you come here and attempt to rub our noses in how you're soooooooooooo close with the team and blah-blah-blah, and how we know nothing and you're smarter and more wise than we are. You're the one who reeks of junior high antics. Congratulations! You're his brother, and you;re coming here and making an arse of yourself by being blind to the fact that although you're his brother, they lied to him or to whomever David overheard when David says he heard that we were taking Reggie Bush. David doesn't know everything, and he'll be the last to know IF he his let go from the team or traded, etc. So stop trying to leverage your position as David's borther as if that guarantees you the "true" stance on David as the future QB or for any other Texans-related personnel moves for that matter. They smoke-screened David about Reggie, so what else would they smoke-screen, huh?

2. You will never have any objective analysis about the QB position as long as David is the QB. And thus you cannot understand why people ignore what you say about it, and you also rip people a new one for having anything other than a glowing report on David.

You used to be fairly humble about stuff. And now you're just rushing onto the board like a raging bull in a china closet. I kept the promise I made to you back in March of 2006, to not tell anyone I knew who you were. I made an allegiance with you and you came on here and outed yourself recently when you said "This is my last post...."

You've gone full tilt, Darren. Period.

And that goes for QB75, too. I wonder who that is, hmmm? Perhaps David himself? His dad? The other son? There's no profile info on QB75...and yet 100% of his posts are in the Carr threads and nothing but pro-Carr replies.

It's nice to know that 99.9% of the board posters here are at least not Carr family members, this way we can at least know that 99.9% of the time we'll be reading objective analysis that isn't tainted by familial affiliations with the Carr family.

I'm 100% OFF the Carr bandwagon. Get anybody in here, TODAY! The arrogance and the uppity snooty attitude is enough to say that I want them back in California where they can make appearances at Stockdale High and continue to get NOTHING but what they think they should get and what they think they deserve: Glowing praise and honor for who they are.

Is that grown up enough for you, Hulkster? I kept my promise the whole way, for you, and you outed yourself so you could go full title and go balls to the wall with your rants about how much better you are and how much more inside information you have than us, and blah-blah-blah.

You ain't lived in Texas long enough, bro.
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Such Anger, all for just a game of football. Thats too bad.

Nobody Cares, You spent 32 minutes of waisted time writting back, does this change anything?

Like I said you can believe what you like, I know what I know thats why I am not going to take a whole hour to type back, you send me PMs all the time stop, what does it matter? Call me what you want, say I dont know anything, which is my favorite, I have played Ball for 15 years, have played with and talked to some NFL players and coaches, I coach my self, I play semi pro ball for kicks, have a playbook with over 300 plays in it but "I will never know", your right I have no clue what is going on, I smoke screen all day, thats what my life style is all about, thats how I go about things smoke screening everything.

Like I said I know what I know, it does not bother me what you think, it is acctually kind of fun cause it gives me an idea of your knowledge of football, telling someone who still plays it and has played it for 15 years now, compared to a guy that has never sniffed a footrball field past the age of 16.

I am sorry you think I am such a bad person, and that I dont know what I am talikng about, but what ever makes you feel better through out the day.................................You cant take my joy cause you did not give it to me, so I am sorry you feel this way, I know what I know, sorry if it is not right.:shades:
 
Here let me just end this so you dont have a heart attack, your right, lets take Domanick Rohdes, Ron and Chris are super stars and lets draft a dlineman in the first couple rds.
 
If this guy is David Carr's brother, it's real weird that he doesn't even know how to properly apostrophe his own last name.

Real weird.

:stirpot:
 
No. We have all the decent backs we need, Taylor, Dayne, Williams, Lundy. If we bring in another back, he needs to be a big play maker, other than that we are ok with what we have and it wouldn't be worth the extra money.
 
Hmmm....I wonder what Ron and Chris would think if they read your statement about how we need a "stud?"
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I think that they just might agree. Do you consider Ron Dayne a stud? Are you ready to go into the 2007 season with Ron Dayne as your feature back?
I'm not knocking either one, but I don't want to go into next year with Ron Dayne as our feature back. Change of pace back, sure, but do we know that Chris Taylor is the man? I think that Chris Taylor looked really good when given time to play, but why was he given the chance to play when we were all out of options? I can buy that it was because we wanted to get a good look at him, and maybe he showed the coaches enough. But I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that the Texans' brass are not content with our stable of running backs.
 
Chance_C said:
I think that they just might agree. Do you consider Ron Dayne a stud? Are you ready to go into the 2007 season with Ron Dayne as your feature back?
I'm not knocking either one, but I don't want to go into next year with Ron Dayne as our feature back. Change of pace back, sure, but do we know that Chris Taylor is the man? I think that Chris Taylor looked really good when given time to play, but why was he given the chance to play when we were all out of options? I can buy that it was because we wanted to get a good look at him, and maybe he showed the coaches enough. But I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that the Texans' brass are not content with our stable of running backs.
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Kubiak considers him a stud rb. Long as he's healthy, u'll see the heisman winner perform at that high level. Coach has practically prasied him all season. He knows what a helthy Ron Dayne brings to the table. And believe me, by the time that 4th quarter rolls around. Nobody wants to tackle a big body like that. "He's a load to bring down". get ready to go into next season with him being the featured back.
 
Kubiak considers him a stud rb. Long as he's healthy, u'll see the heisman winner perform at that high level. Coach has practically prasied him all season. He knows what a helthy Ron Dayne brings to the table. And believe me, by the time that 4th quarter rolls around. Nobody wants to tackle a big body like that. "He's a load to bring down". get ready to go into next season with him being the featured back
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Two reasons why Ron Dayne would be our featured back:

1. No other options
2. We have higher areas of concern, and the running back well runs dry.
Then see #1.

I understand that you really like Ron Dayne (hence your screenname). I was impressed with the way he ran the ball. I'm not impressed that it took him, how many, 6 years to show it. We got the thunder, we need the lightning.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I'm the one that needs to grow up?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I need an interpreter to understand what your last sentence actually means.

1. You outed yourself as David's brother when you said in your own posts that you are his brother. And in addition, you come here and attempt to rub our noses in how you're soooooooooooo close with the team and blah-blah-blah, and how we know nothing and you're smarter and more wise than we are. You're the one who reeks of junior high antics. Congratulations! You're his brother, and you;re coming here and making an arse of yourself by being blind to the fact that although you're his brother, they lied to him or to whomever David overheard when David says he heard that we were taking Reggie Bush. David doesn't know everything, and he'll be the last to know IF he his let go from the team or traded, etc. So stop trying to leverage your position as David's borther as if that guarantees you the "true" stance on David as the future QB or for any other Texans-related personnel moves for that matter. They smoke-screened David about Reggie, so what else would they smoke-screen, huh?

2. You will never have any objective analysis about the QB position as long as David is the QB. And thus you cannot understand why people ignore what you say about it, and you also rip people a new one for having anything other than a glowing report on David.

You used to be fairly humble about stuff. And now you're just rushing onto the board like a raging bull in a china closet. I kept the promise I made to you back in March of 2006, to not tell anyone I knew who you were. I made an allegiance with you and you came on here and outed yourself recently when you said "This is my last post...."

You've gone full tilt, Darren. Period.

And that goes for QB75, too. I wonder who that is, hmmm? Perhaps David himself? His dad? The other son? There's no profile info on QB75...and yet 100% of his posts are in the Carr threads and nothing but pro-Carr replies.

It's nice to know that 99.9% of the board posters here are at least not Carr family members, this way we can at least know that 99.9% of the time we'll be reading objective analysis that isn't tainted by familial affiliations with the Carr family.

I'm 100% OFF the Carr bandwagon. Get anybody in here, TODAY! The arrogance and the uppity snooty attitude is enough to say that I want them back in California where they can make appearances at Stockdale High and continue to get NOTHING but what they think they should get and what they think they deserve: Glowing praise and honor for who they are. All of it reeks of "Nobody likes us" whining.

Is that grown up enough for you, Hulkster? I kept my promise the whole way, for you, and you outed yourself so you could go full tilt and go balls to the wall with your rants about how much better you are and how much more inside information you have than us, and blah-blah-blah. You couldn't keep it a secret any longer because you have selfish motives for revealing who you are: You DESIRE to be known as being David's brother and you DESIRE to use it as a way to say that we're stupid and you're smarter. That really doesn't buy you a lot of points, Hulk75, if you ask me. You've dug yourself an even deeper grave as far as that all goes. You seriously miscalculated this particular move (the move to out yourself).

You ain't lived in Texas long enough, bro. Don't act as though being here for a few years buys you any favors, OK? We see the HEART here in Texas, and it's obvious you have NO allegiance to Houston Texans at all. You're looking out for the family reputation. It's like another poster said: "Would you still come here if David had left the team?"

No, you wouldn't. So just HOW seriously can we take you at your opinions on OUR team?

And IF you are sooo much smarter than us, Hulk, and IF you are so very close to the team as you say you are, and IF you care so much about David and his locker room presence with the guys, then why do you rag Dayne and Taylor by saying that we need "a stud" in here at RB? That's a risky move to make those statements and think that they won;t find out about it. Yeah, go high-five Dayne in the locker room tomorrow when you just said that he nor Taylor are a stud around here. Nice, smart move, Hulk. (rolls eyes) Because YOU saying that is just as good as DAVID saying it....because you and David are on the same page, right?

You have so very little clue about how politics and human relations are to be utilized in the real world. You cannot come here and spew your stuff and then think that it just stays here and it doesn't have ramifications down the road for you or for David. Think two moves ahead before you make statements like that...it might impact the locker room and David's leadership. But of course, that takes a back seat to you telling us who you are and how stupid WE are since we don't have "Carr" as a last name.
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WOW... encore' lol,
Hulk he's right, if you were not affiliated w/ david then you wouldn't be a fan. This is a place for meaningless talk. Don't take anything anyone says to heart. You keep ranting and raving and talk bad about everyone else on the team but david. I say leave that slippery slope alone and only do posts that include updates. You're in Texas now grow another layer of skin.
 
Chance_C said:
Two reasons why Ron Dayne would be our featured back:

1. No other options
2. We have higher areas of concern, and the running back well runs dry.
Then see #1.

I understand that you really like Ron Dayne (hence your screenname). I was impressed with the way he ran the ball. I'm not impressed that it took him, how many, 6 years to show it. We got the thunder, we need the lightning.
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listen man, Dayne always had it, he was just never given the oppurtunity.
 
listen man, Dayne always had it, he was just never given the oppurtunity.
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And I wonder what the reason was for that? I'm feeling a little bias from you towards Ron. Are you a family member, or perhaps you are Ron himself. If so, I'm sorry and could I get an autograph?

Ron Dayne showed me enough during the end of the season to warrant another look, I'll give you that. But, if you think for one minute that the Texans' are going to go into the offseason with the mindset that the backfield is set, then I think you will be sorely disappointed....:twocents:
 
Chance_C said:
And I wonder what the reason was for that? I'm feeling a little bias from you towards Ron. Are you a family member, or perhaps you are Ron himself. If so, I'm sorry and could I get an autograph?

Ron Dayne showed me enough during the end of the season to warrant another look, I'll give you that. But, if you think for one minute that the Texans' are going to go into the offseason with the mindset that the backfield is set, then I think you will be sorely disappointed....:twocents:
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i'm not saying the backfeild is set. But The guy has never been giving a fair shot to show what he can do this league. just imagine if he was 100% heallthy when Kubes 1st bought him along. With the numbers he put up at the end of the season, he was on pace for 1700yrds.

he's had more than just 4 great games in his career. he had 4 great games this past season. It's not like Dayne has been to 10 different teams in his career. he was with the G-men for 5yrs and carried the ball about 3-4 times a game every 3-4 series. Now, that!!!! is not how u use Ron Dayne. He's not that type of rb. When the G-men did give him the majority of the carries, As a matter of fact they were forced to b/c Tiki was injured/inactive for 3 games during Dayne's tenure in NYG. His stats look like this.........58car. 337yrds. 3tds. 5.3 avg......So even in NYG he would've been great, they just misused him in every possibvle way. so he has shown even in NYC that he can be a quilyt back, if u just FEED HIM THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thats how he was used in college. Thats how he won the heisman trophy. thats how he still holds the nccaa rushing title till this very day. So all u guys/gals get ur tickets now b/c the train is gonna run wild next year.......
 
I think I have the answer for everybody. We trade D. Carr and Wniston with our #8 pick to Oakland and we get their #1 and 2 round pick. Then they can cut Carr and he can go play semi-pro ball with Hulk. Now everybody happy?
 
I admit that I am a huge Dayne mark. He showed this year, that he could be the type of runner that I always figured he would be coming out of college. I never understood why he never made an impact in NY, other than the fact that Tiki Barber beat him out for the job.

That being said, I am still not convinced that he is the type of guy you can give 25-30 carries a game and expect him to stay healthy all season. I hope that Dayne stays and I'm sure he'll be back next year, but it would be nice to get a big playmaker of a back in there to be the featured back, and grind teams down with dayne when he's not in there.

I personally don't feel that Davis/Williams will be back this year, and even when he was here, I'm not sure he's exactly what this team needed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking what he did when he was healthy, but health seems to be his real issue.
 
I do not see any advantage to having Rhodes. A rookie took his starting job so that says enough about him. I also have no problem going to camp with Dayne/Taylor/Lundy and DW lurking in the background. Both Dayne and Tayor ran pretty well behind a patchwork OL so let them play.

We need OL and DL additions this offseason. Period.

And I am still a genius.......:tease:
 
Dayne- 10 carries, Lundy/Taylor 8-10, Peterson 10-15. We only need 4 and that is what seems to work in this offense. Who is 'featured' back? who cares.
 
Hulk75 said:
Such Anger, all for just a game of football. Thats too bad.

Nobody Cares, You spent 32 minutes of waisted time writting back, does this change anything?

Like I said you can believe what you like, I know what I know thats why I am not going to take a whole hour to type back, you send me PMs all the time stop, what does it matter? Call me what you want, say I dont know anything, which is my favorite, I have played Ball for 15 years, have played with and talked to some NFL players and coaches, I coach my self, I play semi pro ball for kicks, have a playbook with over 300 plays in it but "I will never know", your right I have no clue what is going on, I smoke screen all day, thats what my life style is all about, thats how I go about things smoke screening everything.

Like I said I know what I know, it does not bother me what you think, it is acctually kind of fun cause it gives me an idea of your knowledge of football, telling someone who still plays it and has played it for 15 years now, compared to a guy that has never sniffed a footrball field past the age of 16.

I am sorry you think I am such a bad person, and that I dont know what I am talikng about, but what ever makes you feel better through out the day.................................You cant take my joy cause you did not give it to me, so I am sorry you feel this way, I know what I know, sorry if it is not right.:shades:
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You're supporting my talking points.

1. JUST because you played the game, JUST because you coach the game, and JUST because you're his brother amounts to about jack squat with what really matters.

2. And here;s what really matters: They, whomever "They" is, LIED to David or someone lied to THEM about taking Reggie. Point is this, Hulk75: You can "think" you know what you know all day long. The fact of the matter is that plenty of stuff has broken on this site by people other than you. AND, you and your family will be the LAST to know about how McNair and Kubiak and Smith feel about David or what they plan to do with David. They like David. We all "get that," OK? But it's a business, too, and they will not let David in on the ultimate plans for David. Your connection is not as solid as you think it is. No smart coach or Gm would let a current QB know (for sure) if he's really on the hot seat or not. They make their plans, and they B.S. in-between so that everybody thinks everything's OK. It keeps HARMONY in the locker room. But, you're right, you get a fax every day from David or from Mr. McNair about what is going to happen. Whatever...keep deluding yourself that you know everything all the time.

I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say that it's getting old that you act so arrogant about who you are and what "you know."

If I've read "I know what I know" once, I've read it a 100 times from you. Keep patting yourself on the back with one hand, and then use the other hand to stick a thumb out to hitchhike back to California for all I care.

All of your arrogant, obnoxious, selfish, and snooty comments have caused me to sour on your whole family...including David. Way to go.

You were so much more tolerable BEFORE you outed yourself.

One last thing: When I pm'd you, which you referenced in your last reply to me on this thread, those om's can be publicly displayed if you like. What people will see in our exchange is that my pm's to you were asking you to have some perspective about how people will not read your posts with the same way they'd read a post by everybody else (because you're his brother). I was NICE to you, and worded everything with positive words and encouraging words. You, on the other hand, replied with hate and bitterness towards me...ragging ME all the way with your "I know more than you know" crapola.

So, yeah, I'm sorry I tried to politely let you know that you're causing your own turrd storm and that you need to chill out a little and get a little perspective. Obviously, you're intent on burning every bridge you've built here.

Way to go. I guess your real character is coming out now, isn't it? Because the guy who pm'd me back in April was a lot nicer and more down-to-earth than you are today. I guess when the chips are down, we all see people's real character don't we?

Keep telling us how stupid we are, and how we don't know anything. We know, we know: "You know what you know" and you're going to write a book one day about David and about the pressures and trials that young QBs face when they enter the NFL. Blah-blah-blah. Keep telling us how stupid we are, Darren. That's the kind of Godly character you and your family represent, right? Way to go.

So for all of you reading this, THIS is how Darren feels about you: You're ignorant and do not know anything because Darren knows evvvvvvvvvvverything and you don't.

And I was called a junior higher by Darren? Riiiiiiight.

It's OK, Darren. THIS is the path you chose for yourself when you outed yourself recently. Continue to embrace that selfish, snooty side that's really been you all along.

We love to have a Carr tell us how stupid we are.

I predict, at some point, that David himself is going to come on here and apologize for your behavior. Bank on it.
 
prostock101 said:
I do not see any advantage to having Rhodes. A rookie took his starting job so that says enough about him. I also have no problem going to camp with Dayne/Taylor/Lundy and DW lurking in the background. Both Dayne and Tayor ran pretty well behind a patchwork OL so let them play.

We need OL and DL additions this offseason. Period.

And I am still a genius.......:tease:
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Taylor had 28 carries in two games against two of the worst run defenses in the league. He had a solid game and a half, but are you really willing to hand over the keys to him after such limited performance? I think he has earned himself a spot on the team, but that is it. Domanick Williams, Samkon Gado, and Wali Lundy are probably not going to be back next year.

Dayne did play well for a few games this season but he started injured, finished injured, and in the process injured our potential franchise LT. He is a good back to spell in for our starter, but is unreliable for the whole season.

We will either pick up a solid free agent running back like Michael Turner or draft a play maker like Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson. Anyone who is happy with our running game is either delusional or in a fantasy world. Dayne or Taylor could start for 0 teams in the NFL right now, and that will continue next season as well.
 
tulexan said:
Taylor had 28 carries in two games against two of the worst run defenses in the league. He had a solid game and a half, but are you really willing to hand over the keys to him after such limited performance? I think he has earned himself a spot on the team, but that is it. Domanick Williams, Samkon Gado, and Wali Lundy are probably not going to be back next year.

Dayne did play well for a few games this season but he started injured, finished injured, and in the process injured our potential franchise LT. He is a good back to spell in for our starter, but is unreliable for the whole season.

We will either pick up a solid free agent running back like Michael Turner or draft a play maker like Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson. Anyone who is happy with our running game is either delusional or in a fantasy world. Dayne or Taylor could start for 0 teams in the NFL right now, and that will continue next season as well.
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My point is that.....

1. We need OL and DL help now.

2. Kubiak will not use a 1st or 2nd round pick on a Lynch or Peterson and will not give mucho picks for a RFA like Turner.

3. If we do get another RB, it will be a UFA or a late round pick.

4. We need OL and DL help now......so it's run watcha brung.

5. And I am still a genius.......:tease:
 
prostock101 said:
2. Kubiak will not use a 1st or 2nd round pick on a Lynch or Peterson and will not give mucho picks for a RFA like Turner.

3. If we do get another RB, it will be a UFA or a late round pick.
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How do you know this? And don't give me the whole "Denver doesn't draft running backs in the first round" either because that argument has been debunked several times.

I think we will go after a running back in the first round (as long as its not a reach) because we have a below average running game and are primarily a run first offense. Trust me, if the front office knew that there was no chance that Domanick Davis was going to play this past season, Reggie Bush would've been drafted by the Texans. I don't have any doubts about this.

We have good depth at running back, but nothing special and nothing that you can rely on for an entire season. Dayne and Taylor are good 2nd and 3rd running backs, but this team needs a guy like Adrian Peterson or Marshawn Lynch in its stable because they are play makers and this team doesn't have any.
 
Hulk75 said:
No, we need a stud, Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis in a trade, draft one early or get this team a legit back and a reall run game and the preasure will be taken of the neck of the OLine and QB.

*AP, Lynch, Portis
back ups- Chris Taylor and Ron Dayne:secret:

Thats $$$$$$$$.
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The production from Carr was great when we had a running game back in 2004. Domanick had 1188 yards rushing and 13td's to counter David's best passing year of 3,531 yards.

The run opens up the pass...and people like Lundy and Gado aren't going to cut it. I'm all for keeping Dayne and Taylor on the roster...but if Domanick can't get healthy...it's time to go stud running back listed above.

Now don't get me wrong as well...if David DOES stay...he needs signifigant competition for the starting job. I just have a strong feeling that we'll see a signifigant change in quarterback depth chart come this fall. Whether it be a high draft pick...or an extremely capable 1-2-3 quarterback depth chart.

One thing that I know for sure is that nobody's job is safe this offseason. I'm sure we'll see rosters turned over, and the 2002 crop dissapearing.
 
tulexan said:
How do you know this? And don't give me the whole "Denver doesn't draft running backs in the first round" either because that argument has been debunked several times.

I think we will go after a running back in the first round (as long as its not a reach) because we have a below average running game and are primarily a run first offense. Trust me, if the front office knew that there was no chance that Domanick Davis was going to play this past season, Reggie Bush would've been drafted by the Texans. I don't have any doubts about this.

We have good depth at running back, but nothing special and nothing that you can rely on for an entire season. Dayne and Taylor are good 2nd and 3rd running backs, but this team needs a guy like Adrian Peterson or Marshawn Lynch in its stable because they are play makers and this team doesn't have any.
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How do I know this? Because I am a genius!:tease: The reality is neither one of us really knows what the FO will do. Would I like to have a Lynch or Peterson or Turner? You bet. But this team is in the second year of a major rebuild and why not focus on the meat and potatoes first.....OL and DL. It's not like this team is anywhere near playoff material next year, so why not build it right?
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
You're supporting my talking points.

1. JUST because you played the game, JUST because you coach the game, and JUST because you're his brother amounts to about jack squat with what really matters.

2. And here;s what really matters: They, whomever "They" is, LIED to David or someone lied to THEM about taking Reggie. Point is this, Hulk75: You can "think" you know what you know all day long. The fact of the matter is that plenty of stuff has broken on this site by people other than you. AND, you and your family will be the LAST to know about how McNair and Kubiak and Smith feel about David or what they plan to do with David. They like David. We all "get that," OK? But it's a business, too, and they will not let David in on the ultimate plans for David. Your connection is not as solid as you think it is. No smart coach or Gm would let a current QB know (for sure) if he's really on the hot seat or not. They make their plans, and they B.S. in-between so that everybody thinks everything's OK. It keeps HARMONY in the locker room. But, you're right, you get a fax every day from David or from Mr. McNair about what is going to happen. Whatever...keep deluding yourself that you know everything all the time.

I think I speak for a lot of people here when I say that it's getting old that you act so arrogant about who you are and what "you know."

If I've read "I know what I know" once, I've read it a 100 times from you. Keep patting yourself on the back with one hand, and then use the other hand to stick a thumb out to hitchhike back to California for all I care.

All of your arrogant, obnoxious, selfish, and snooty comments have caused me to sour on your whole family...including David. Way to go.

You were so much more tolerable BEFORE you outed yourself.

One last thing: When I pm'd you, which you referenced in your last reply to me on this thread, those om's can be publicly displayed if you like. What people will see in our exchange is that my pm's to you were asking you to have some perspective about how people will not read your posts with the same way they'd read a post by everybody else (because you're his brother). I was NICE to you, and worded everything with positive words and encouraging words. You, on the other hand, replied with hate and bitterness towards me...ragging ME all the way with your "I know more than you know" crapola.

So, yeah, I'm sorry I tried to politely let you know that you're causing your own turrd storm and that you need to chill out a little and get a little perspective. Obviously, you're intent on burning every bridge you've built here.

Way to go. I guess your real character is coming out now, isn't it? Because the guy who pm'd me back in April was a lot nicer and more down-to-earth than you are today. I guess when the chips are down, we all see people's real character don't we?

Keep telling us how stupid we are, and how we don't know anything. We know, we know: "You know what you know" and you're going to write a book one day about David and about the pressures and trials that young QBs face when they enter the NFL. Blah-blah-blah. Keep telling us how stupid we are, Darren. That's the kind of Godly character you and your family represent, right? Way to go.

So for all of you reading this, THIS is how Darren feels about you: You're ignorant and do not know anything because Darren knows evvvvvvvvvvverything and you don't.

And I was called a junior higher by Darren? Riiiiiiight.

It's OK, Darren. THIS is the path you chose for yourself when you outed yourself recently. Continue to embrace that selfish, snooty side that's really been you all along.

We love to have a Carr tell us how stupid we are.

I predict, at some point, that David himself is going to come on here and apologize for your behavior. Bank on it.
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Feel better, you cant help it can you.

Dont put words in my mouth or predict what people will and will not do cause you cant, I just feel bad for you cause its so personal to you, its a game, just a game that most of us have played.

And your wrong thats how I feel about your comments, I respect MANY peoples thoughts on this board, Vinny, AJ, SheTexans, "84" do I agree with most no, but they have some good stuff to say, its just personal with you and that is just terrible, I enjoy a good debate but this is just lame by you, get over it.

What is sad, is that you probably thought all day about this, while I was at work and playing with my children.

Wow bringing my families own character into this was pretty low and shows yours, thats truely sad that you brought it to that when this is just a Football game.


Like I said dont assume you know something if you have not gone through it.

Too Bad.
 
prostock101 said:
How do I know this? Because I am a genius!:tease: The reality is neither one of us really knows what the FO will do. Would I like to have a Lynch or Peterson or Turner? You bet. But this team is in the second year of a major rebuild and why not focus on the meat and potatoes first.....OL and DL. It's not like this team is anywhere near playoff material next year, so why not build it right?
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How much more money are we going to spend on the DL? Were 3 first round picks (including a #1 overall) not enough. On top of that, we gave Weaver a pretty big contract last off season. The only OL that is worth a top ten pick is Joe Thomas and there is no way that he is going to fall to us.
 
Hulk75 said:
Feel better, you cant help it can you.

Dont put words in my mouth or predict what people will and will not do cause you cant, I just feel bad for you cause its so personal to you, its a game, just a game that most of us have played.

And your wrong thats how I feel about your comments, I respect MANY peoples thoughts on this board, Vinny, AJ, SheTexans, "84" do I agree with most no, but they have some good stuff to say, its just personal with you and that is just terrible, I enjoy a good debate but this is just lame by you, get over it.

What is sad, is that you probably thought all day about this, while I was at work and playing with my children.

Wow bringing my families own character into this was pretty low and shows yours, thats truely sad that you brought it to that when this is just a Football game.


Like I said dont assume you know something if you have not gone through it.

Too Bad.
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You guys need to start your own thread and battle it out......:fight:
 
I wish we could somehow have a Michael Turner announcement somewhere on the board. He's a RFA which would mean we would give up 1st and 3rd round picks.
 
tulexan said:
How much more money are we going to spend on the DL? Were 3 first round picks (including a #1 overall) not enough. On top of that, we gave Weaver a pretty big contract last off season. The only OL that is worth a top ten pick is Joe Thomas and there is no way that he is going to fall to us.
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I don't disagree but the problem is still there on the both the OL and DL and has been for five years. When should we address the problem? Next year? The year after? Drafting a stud RB won't fix the areas that we need to have solid for the next few years if we have any expectations of being a playoff caliber team.
 
mexican_texan said:
I wish we could somehow have a Michael Turner announcement somewhere on the board. He's a RFA which would mean we would give up 1st and 3rd round picks.
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Compensatory picks are negotiable. No one in the league is going to give them that much for him and unless they want to not get anything in return for him when he leaves next year as an unrestricted free agent, they are going to be willing to accept less.
 
tulexan said:
Compensatory picks are negotiable. No one in the league is going to give them that much for him and unless they want to not get anything in return for him when he leaves next year as an unrestricted free agent, they are going to be willing to accept less.
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Good point Tulexan!! I never really thought about that. I would'nt mind if we gave them a 2nd rounder in the '08 draft but I think we need to keep all our picks this year.

Also seeing as LT has been the starter the whole time how do we really know how good he is? I thought P.Buc was good until he came here and was a starter. It then became very obious that he was'nt starting material.I mean he is'nt exactly a proven back yet.

And as for D.Rhodes, he could be Ok for us at the right price. But we have alot of backs with the same type of potential as him already on our roster, so what's the point really.
 
SLO Texan said:
And as for D.Rhodes, he could be Ok for us at the right price. But we have alot of backs with the same type of potential as him already on our roster, so what's the point really.
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No we don't.

Dominic Rhodes > Samkon Gado
Dominic Rhodes > Chris Taylor
Dominic Rhodes > Wali Lundy

Dayne's not going anywhere, so I won't bother comparing them. Not to mention that he really caught on here as the season wore on. Rhodes would be the right kind of back to split carries with Dayne.

Remember the 49er's from 1994? We need a back to fill the Ricky Watters role. We've already got the William Floyd type power runner.

I agree that the price has gotta be right....don't know if Rhodes is a RFA or a UFA.
 
Chance_C said:
I think that they just might agree. Do you consider Ron Dayne a stud? Are you ready to go into the 2007 season with Ron Dayne as your feature back?
I'm not knocking either one, but I don't want to go into next year with Ron Dayne as our feature back. Change of pace back, sure, but do we know that Chris Taylor is the man? I think that Chris Taylor looked really good when given time to play, but why was he given the chance to play when we were all out of options? I can buy that it was because we wanted to get a good look at him, and maybe he showed the coaches enough. But I would bet a dollar to a doughnut that the Texans' brass are not content with our stable of running backs.
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I sooooo agree with you dude!!!
 
DayneBum said:
Kubiak considers him a stud rb. Long as he's healthy, u'll see the heisman winner perform at that high level. Coach has practically prasied him all season. He knows what a helthy Ron Dayne brings to the table. And believe me, by the time that 4th quarter rolls around. Nobody wants to tackle a big body like that. "He's a load to bring down". get ready to go into next season with him being the featured back.
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Dayne as our featured back is not a good thing. Don't know if you have noticed, but when he has a good game he tends to miss the next one because of an injury or i don't know maybe he can't handle the load on a regular basis. Don't believe me look into it and see for yourself. We need a Stud in our backfield because at this point all we have are Dud's. Only one that might be a stud IMHO is DW. If he comes back healthy that is. He will never be at 100% again. At least not in this lifetime.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I'm the one that needs to grow up?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I need an interpreter to understand what your last sentence actually means.

1. You outed yourself as David's brother when you said in your own posts that you are his brother. And in addition, you come here and attempt to rub our noses in how you're soooooooooooo close with the team and blah-blah-blah, and how we know nothing and you're smarter and more wise than we are. You're the one who reeks of junior high antics. Congratulations! You're his brother, and you;re coming here and making an arse of yourself by being blind to the fact that although you're his brother, they lied to him or to whomever David overheard when David says he heard that we were taking Reggie Bush. David doesn't know everything, and he'll be the last to know IF he his let go from the team or traded, etc. So stop trying to leverage your position as David's borther as if that guarantees you the "true" stance on David as the future QB or for any other Texans-related personnel moves for that matter. They smoke-screened David about Reggie, so what else would they smoke-screen, huh?

2. You will never have any objective analysis about the QB position as long as David is the QB. And thus you cannot understand why people ignore what you say about it, and you also rip people a new one for having anything other than a glowing report on David.

You used to be fairly humble about stuff. And now you're just rushing onto the board like a raging bull in a china closet. I kept the promise I made to you back in March of 2006, to not tell anyone I knew who you were. I made an allegiance with you and you came on here and outed yourself recently when you said "This is my last post...."

You've gone full tilt, Darren. Period.

And that goes for QB75, too. I wonder who that is, hmmm? Perhaps David himself? His dad? The other son? There's no profile info on QB75...and yet 100% of his posts are in the Carr threads and nothing but pro-Carr replies.

It's nice to know that 99.9% of the board posters here are at least not Carr family members, this way we can at least know that 99.9% of the time we'll be reading objective analysis that isn't tainted by familial affiliations with the Carr family.

I'm 100% OFF the Carr bandwagon. Get anybody in here, TODAY! The arrogance and the uppity snooty attitude is enough to say that I want them back in California where they can make appearances at Stockdale High and continue to get NOTHING but what they think they should get and what they think they deserve: Glowing praise and honor for who they are. All of it reeks of "Nobody likes us" whining.

Is that grown up enough for you, Hulkster? I kept my promise the whole way, for you, and you outed yourself so you could go full tilt and go balls to the wall with your rants about how much better you are and how much more inside information you have than us, and blah-blah-blah. You couldn't keep it a secret any longer because you have selfish motives for revealing who you are: You DESIRE to be known as being David's brother and you DESIRE to use it as a way to say that we're stupid and you're smarter. That really doesn't buy you a lot of points, Hulk75, if you ask me. You've dug yourself an even deeper grave as far as that all goes. You seriously miscalculated this particular move (the move to out yourself).

You ain't lived in Texas long enough, bro. Don't act as though being here for a few years buys you any favors, OK? We see the HEART here in Texas, and it's obvious you have NO allegiance to Houston Texans at all. You're looking out for the family reputation. It's like another poster said: "Would you still come here if David had left the team?"

No, you wouldn't. So just HOW seriously can we take you at your opinions on OUR team?

And IF you are sooo much smarter than us, Hulk, and IF you are so very close to the team as you say you are, and IF you care so much about David and his locker room presence with the guys, then why do you rag Dayne and Taylor by saying that we need "a stud" in here at RB? That's a risky move to make those statements and think that they won;t find out about it. Yeah, go high-five Dayne in the locker room tomorrow when you just said that he nor Taylor are a stud around here. Nice, smart move, Hulk. (rolls eyes) Because YOU saying that is just as good as DAVID saying it....because you and David are on the same page, right?

You have so very little clue about how politics and human relations are to be utilized in the real world. You cannot come here and spew your stuff and then think that it just stays here and it doesn't have ramifications down the road for you or for David. Think two moves ahead before you make statements like that...it might impact the locker room and David's leadership. But of course, that takes a back seat to you telling us who you are and how stupid WE are since we don't have "Carr" as a last name.
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That makes alot of sense now on how things go around here. I was wondering why he was defending Carr to the bone. I wonder if coachdent is a relative cause he called him brother?(nothing against coachdent of course!) This is all just some weird thing happening is all I am saying.:hides:
 
Battle Red Bull said:
No we don't.

Dominic Rhodes > Samkon Gado
Dominic Rhodes > Chris Taylor
Dominic Rhodes > Wali Lundy
Dayne's not going anywhere, so I won't bother comparing them. Not to mention that he really caught on here as the season wore on. Rhodes would be the right kind of back to split carries with Dayne.

I agree that the price has gotta be right....don't know if Rhodes is a RFA or a UFA.
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I know he has proven more than all those guys, I just don't see him as a big enough upgrade to warrant "needing" to pick him up. I mean he was a back up to Edge and then could'nt get the starting job from a rookie. what does that say to you?

Gados' not neccesarily back next year, so if I had to decide between Gado and Rhodes...I'd take Rhodes. I'll give you that much.
 
Hulk75 said:
Such Anger, all for just a game of football. Thats too bad.

Nobody Cares, You spent 32 minutes of waisted time writting back, does this change anything?

Like I said you can believe what you like, I know what I know thats why I am not going to take a whole hour to type back, you send me PMs all the time stop, what does it matter? Call me what you want, say I dont know anything, which is my favorite, I have played Ball for 15 years, have played with and talked to some NFL players and coaches, I coach my self, I play semi pro ball for kicks, have a playbook with over 300 plays in it but "I will never know", your right I have no clue what is going on, I smoke screen all day, thats what my life style is all about, thats how I go about things smoke screening everything.

Like I said I know what I know, it does not bother me what you think, it is acctually kind of fun cause it gives me an idea of your knowledge of football, telling someone who still plays it and has played it for 15 years now, compared to a guy that has never sniffed a footrball field past the age of 16.

I am sorry you think I am such a bad person, and that I dont know what I am talikng about, but what ever makes you feel better through out the day.................................You cant take my joy cause you did not give it to me, so I am sorry you feel this way, I know what I know, sorry if it is not right.:shades:
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I have played in some independant leagues and played in high school football as well. I played both offense and defense. I prefer defense because you can tackle the QB. :D I just got tired of the BS and wish I stayed and fought harder because of all the money the NFL is throwing around now a days. Dude the way you posted that it sounded you are better than everyone. well just a little bit anyway. You are probably a nice guy, but man...telling fans they have no power to change things is kinda ridiculous in my opinion.
 
Koolbrz said:
Dayne as our featured back is not a good thing. Don't know if you have noticed, but when he has a good game he tends to miss the next one because of an injury or i don't know maybe he can't handle the load on a regular basis. Don't believe me look into it and see for yourself. We need a Stud in our backfield because at this point all we have are Dud's. Only one that might be a stud IMHO is DW. If he comes back healthy that is. He will never be at 100% again. At least not in this lifetime.
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What? are u serious. This year's past injury has been Dayne's only serious injury for his entire Nfl career. please provide the proof to me where u got this silly idea that Dayne can only play every other game. i don't recall him being injury prone at all, if thats what your implying.

And what good is stud rb gonna do if the o-line isnt even complete? DW is a wrap. you know it, i know it, and the FO knows it. Kubiak and Dayne are tight like glue. He'll be at 235lbs -238lbs in camp next year, and Kubes stil beleives he can be that back we was projected to be. most likely they will draft a rb in the later rounds or just pick up an UDRFA. But either way u look at it no matter whose in the backfield carries will be split, and right now if re-signed Dayne is the leading candiate for featured back. Hate it or love it. All the big guy wants is an oppurtunity, and Kubes will be the coach to give it to him.
 
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