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I think this guy is gonna shoot up the boards after the combines. Since we wont be getting Joe Thomas most likely I would love for this guy to fall into our laps at numero ocho.
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I do not really know him and havent started my player research as of yet. I usually wait till the Season is over and the underclassmen declare.So I take it 2 out of 3 of the people who have responded so far want the Texans taking Gaither at 8?
This is all I know, this year Gaither did not even make honorable mention on the All ACC team. Gaither was moved back to ROT when Stephon Heyer returned from injury this year to claim LOT. Heyer did make Honorable Mention. I watched the bowl game and nothing Gaither did really stood out.I do not really know him and havent started my player research as of yet. I usually wait till the Season is over and the underclassmen declare.
He is stupid for declaring because he isn't as well known or polished yet as some other OT's. He has tons of upside and has shut down some stud NFL DE's and OLB's, but he is only a soph this year who is 3 removed from HS. (Went to a military academy for a year first) One of the strongest OT's in years. Great footwork and huge frame. Locks his arms well. I've always been high on the guy. Marylands RB had a big day and most of that was behind Gaither to the right side. He sealed EVERYTHING and the QB was on his feet the whole game. Gaither needed another year to develop more which is scary, but he is a top 10 talent for sure. I think he is something like 6'7 330 and runs a 4.6/4.7 40. The guy can move, and he moves what ever is in his way. Everyone is so high on Mario...Gaither absolutely shut him down along with every other DE he faced.OK, he has commited. So, does that mean there are now 2 top level LTs coming out? If so, we should be able to grab one at the 8 spot. I liked the look of Thomas's game a lot and havent seen Gaither's game. How do they compare?
Thomas may indeed slip to the Texans if the other GMs feel the same way you do about his (Gaither) potential. along w/JaMarcus (need CJ too) coming out early a really, really good player will be pushed to the Texans selecting 8th.He is stupid for declaring because he isn't as well known or polished yet as some other OT's. He has tons of upside and has shut down some stud NFL DE's and OLB's, but he is only a soph this year who is 3 removed from HS. (Went to a military academy for a year first) One of the strongest OT's in years. Great footwork and huge frame. Locks his arms well. I've always been high on the guy. Marylands RB had a big day and most of that was behind Gaither to the right side. He sealed EVERYTHING and the QB was on his feet the whole game. Gaither needed another year to develop more which is scary, but he is a top 10 talent for sure. I think he is something like 6'7 330 and runs a 4.6/4.7 40. The guy can move, and he moves what ever is in his way. Everyone is so high on Mario...Gaither absolutely shut him down along with every other DE he faced.
There are now 2 elite talent OT's. Gaither will be a better pro than Thomas, but Thomas is a little more polished. I still take Gaither before Thomas because of where he should wind up when he develops more. He is worth a top 5, so I deffinatly take him at 8 and shore up that gaping, 5 year hole.
Your right, I haven't heard much about Gaither here in Houston, and I put my Maryland tapes in the attic already for this year. I just assumed he was coming back to school.Now YTF, you don't know what this guys home situation is. You're talking multimillion dollar paydays. We don't know what the guys thought processes are or why he did this. You're propbably correct with your anaylisis.
But our big question this morning is...a guy this raw...this rough....where do you draft him bassed purly on potential ?
Some GM will fall in love w/330 moving at 4.6 speed. Hopefully that is Smith and we take our franchise LT. If Spencer comes back, great, RT or RG. Gaither is a better prospect than D'brick or Thomas, but I have D'brick higher than Thomas.Thomas may indeed slip to the Texans if the other GMs feel the same way you do about his (Gaither) potential. along w/JaMarcus (need CJ too) coming out early a really, really good player will be pushed to the Texans selecting 8th.
I don't think he is declaring, but Gaither runs circles around him in thems of where he already is and then add on to that where he potential should take him and it just makes me laugh.If Texans go OLine first round and Thomas isn't available, I say Sam Baker
He is a soph that was moved around because of his athleticsm to help get the best 5 on the field. He was suspended early in the year for breaking a team rule and I believe broke curfew and didn't start his bolw game.I keep hearing he is top 5, top 15, better than D'Brick, better than Thomas. If all this true why couldn't he even get mentioned as an honorable mention in the ACC? Much less All American.
I don't know about that fourty. Everything I've heard and read as far as measurables like that has him in the 4.7 range. It's not like we get to see him run 40 yards during a game to judge ourselves.6085 330 lbs. 5.32- 40
YTF you are reminding me more and more of Mel Kiper and your similar abilities to lock on to a player...I guess saying you are like Mel Kiper could be a compliment for some.He is a soph that was moved around because of his athleticsm to help get the best 5 on the field. He was suspended early in the year for breaking a team rule and I believe broke curfew and didn't start his bolw game.
I've looked a lot of different MB opinions on him. Very few people think as highly of him as I do, but almost everyone says 1st round. That is now, and he will rise. He apparently is 6'9 not 6'7 as I posted.
Mel Kipper has got to retire somedayYTF you are reminding me more and more of Mel Kiper and your similar abilities to lock on to a player...I guess saying you are like Mel Kiper could be a compliment for some.
Mario had four sacks against Maryland in 2005, when did Gaither shut him down?He is stupid for declaring because he isn't as well known or polished yet as some other OT's. He has tons of upside and has shut down some stud NFL DE's and OLB's, but he is only a soph this year who is 3 removed from HS. (Went to a military academy for a year first) One of the strongest OT's in years. Great footwork and huge frame. Locks his arms well. I've always been high on the guy. Marylands RB had a big day and most of that was behind Gaither to the right side. He sealed EVERYTHING and the QB was on his feet the whole game. Gaither needed another year to develop more which is scary, but he is a top 10 talent for sure. I think he is something like 6'7 330 and runs a 4.6/4.7 40. The guy can move, and he moves what ever is in his way. Everyone is so high on Mario...Gaither absolutely shut him down along with every other DE he faced.
There are now 2 elite talent OT's. Gaither will be a better pro than Thomas, but Thomas is a little more polished. I still take Gaither before Thomas because of where he should wind up when he develops more. He is worth a top 5, so I deffinatly take him at 8 and shore up that gaping, 5 year hole.
agree 100%Some GM will fall in love w/330 moving at 4.6 speed. Hopefully that is Smith and we take our franchise LT. If Spencer comes back, great, RT or RG. Gaither is a better prospect than D'brick or Thomas, but I have D'brick higher than Thomas.
I agree that I don't see a 6'8" 330 lb. man running a 4.6, maybe he did at one point in time back when he weighed a lot less. For that matter I also doubt Joe Staley runs in the 4.7 range at the combine. I recall Eric Winston last year being reported that he can run a 4.7 something because he had in the past, but that was back when he was a TE, and he ended up running a 4.94, which is still impressive for an OLineman. Running that fast would be indicative of his explosiveness and mobility, although you're right he never will be sprinting 40 yards during a game.No way Gaither runs a 4.6. Even if he did, who cares? Unless we are going to line him up at RB, the most he is going to run is a few yards for a sweep play.
Not necessarily for footwork, it shows how quickly they can move their body laterally which obviously involves your feet but footwork technique is a different matter. Some guys are just more used to these drills anyways and train more for them so you can't put too much weight in them, but they definitely help compare the athletic ability of different prospects, one reason why they film the drills so coaches can go back and watch them again to somewhat gauge whether relatively bad times are a matter of inferior athletic ability or just poorer job of running drills.Wouldn't the shuttle time be more important for footwork reasons?
Gaither didn't give up a single sack that year. Not a single one. He was lined up on Lawson mostly, but Mario shifted and was kept off Gaither because he couldn't beat him. Not one person beat him that year. In the past 2 seasons, this "raw, developmental" talent has allowed 1 sack.Mario had four sacks against Maryland in 2005, when did Gaither shut him down?
Everyone locks on to a player. I've been high on Gaither since before last year's draft. I will be a much better looking Mel Kiper soon enough. That is the job I am going to have.YTF you are reminding me more and more of Mel Kiper and your similar abilities to lock on to a player...I guess saying you are like Mel Kiper could be a compliment for some.
Signed,He's not plug and play.
I keep thinking of McNeil when I see the size, but wasn't McNeil a lot more polished coming out of college? I'll reserve judgement on Gaithersince I don't remember much of the Maryland game I saw a while back.Signed,
Marcus McNeil
He was considred more polished because he had more time at the DI level. Gaither has played two years of DI ball and has allowed 1 sack over two combined years. McNeil did the same sort of thing at AUB...look how that one turned out.I keep thinking of McNeil when I see the size, but wasn't McNeil a lot more polished coming out of college? I'll reserve judgement on Gaithersince I don't remember much of the Maryland game I saw a while back.
Well, I have tape, but it is actual tape. I don't have it online in a sendable form. I will try to dig some up tommorow.I always knew McNeil would have an impact his rookie year, but he exceeded my expectations.
If you ever find tape on Gaither, I'd appreciate it if you share. I don't like how I expect the draft to be at 7-15, so I wouldn't mind taking someone like Gaither at 8.
If what you are saying is true and if his draft stock stays the same, maybe he'll last until our 2nd round pick! Never know in the NFL. Looking back at it, Demeco has top 10 talent as well.Well, I have tape, but it is actual tape. I don't have it online in a sendable form. I will try to dig some up tommorow.
The draft morons are saying he is a 2nd rounder and that is pure BS. He will be the 2nd OT off the board and go top 20. Has talent of top 10 at least. Will not be a reach at 8 by draft day.