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Imatexanfan

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Somone a week or so ago said the draft is always a crap shoot, and I think this year those two words ring true.

The top prospects each have glaring problems or are just not playing up to par in their last college games (Quinn, Landry). But Mr. JaMarcus Russell looks pretty impressive and at 6'5" 250 he can plow over defenders. He is not run happy but when he does run, look out. When there was no one open he threw it away, unlike Quinn, in the bowl game.:secret:

Look if he declares for the draft and is still available with our 8th pick, I don't see how we could pass him up, unless its like the VY "policy" if ya know what I mean, if not......its on another thread (LONG STORY).

Peterson will always have the injury stigma. :hides:

Lynch to me looks like the second coming of Cedric Benson (you know the guy who carries Thomas Jones suitcases)

Joe Thomas (Wisconsin) is the one outstanding lineman and that is good, even though I'm all for it I still don't know, you know what I mean?! :shades:

I say just spin Mattress Mac around blindfold in front of the draftboard and let him pin a tail on a someone's name and we'll get the same results, well kinda, unless it requires of trading Carr for Vick. :)
 
If they didn't draft VY there is no way in hell they will draft Russell. We need to hope Gaines Adams, Leon Hall, or Branch are available when we pick. If we get any of those 3 guys I would consider the 1st Round a success. Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson are going to be long gone and they are the elite prospects imho. AP would be be included with them but he has the injury stigma and the high mileage on his tires courtesy of Stoops. If AP is available at #8 I think we should look hard at him. The fact that he was willing to do so much to help his team says measures for his character, heart, and competitive fire....even if it was to the detriment of his physical condition.

oh and Lynch is garbage imho. Just another Tedford-style product West Coast stat factory ala JJ Arrington.

If Sam Baker OT grades well in the combines I wouldnt be against us using the #8 on him as well.

I was on the Draft Landry bandwagon earlier cause it was such an area of need but from what I saw in the Sugar Bowl, I didn't see all that much to show he merits that early of a pick. He was always around the ball so he can read the QB but I didn't see the physical tools taht would validate such an early pick.
 
Imatexanfan said:
Somone a week or so ago said the draft is always a crap shoot, and I think this year those two words ring true.

The top prospects each have glaring problems or are just not playing up to par in their last college games (Quinn, Landry). But Mr. JaMarcus Russell looks pretty impressive and at 6'5" 250 he can plow over defenders. He is not run happy but when he does run, look out. When there was no one open he threw it away, unlike Quinn, in the bowl game.:secret:

Look if he declares for the draft and is still available with our 8th pick, I don't see how we could pass him up, unless its like the VY "policy" if ya know what I mean, if not......its on another thread (LONG STORY).

Peterson will always have the injury stigma. :hides:

Lynch to me looks like the second coming of Cedric Benson (you know the guy who carries Thomas Jones suitcases)

Joe Thomas (Wisconsin) is the one outstanding lineman and that is good, even though I'm all for it I still don't know, you know what I mean?! :shades:

I say just spin Mattress Mac around blindfold in front of the draftboard and let him pin a tail on a someone's name and we'll get the same results, well kinda, unless it requires of trading Carr for Vick. :)
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A) JaMarcus Russell will not be there at 8 so the point is moot

B) Peterson's injuries have not been chronic and should not be recurring. Anyone can get a high ankle sprain and the broken collar bone was a freak injury. He does not have any structural damage and should be fine.

C) Lynch is a totally different player than Benson. Benson is closer to Peterson than he is to Lynch. With his versatility, you could compare him to a poor man's Tomlinson.

D) Joe Thomas has no chance of being available when the Texans pick.
 
Imatexanfan said:
Somone a week or so ago said the draft is always a crap shoot, and I think this year those two words ring true.

The top prospects each have glaring problems or are just not playing up to par in their last college games (Quinn, Landry). But Mr. JaMarcus Russell looks pretty impressive and at 6'5" 250 he can plow over defenders. He is not run happy but when he does run, look out. When there was no one open he threw it away, unlike Quinn, in the bowl game.:secret:

Look if he declares for the draft and is still available with our 8th pick, I don't see how we could pass him up, unless its like the VY "policy" if ya know what I mean, if not......its on another thread (LONG STORY).

Peterson will always have the injury stigma. :hides:

Lynch to me looks like the second coming of Cedric Benson (you know the guy who carries Thomas Jones suitcases)

Joe Thomas (Wisconsin) is the one outstanding lineman and that is good, even though I'm all for it I still don't know, you know what I mean?! :shades:

I say just spin Mattress Mac around blindfold in front of the draftboard and let him pin a tail on a someone's name and we'll get the same results, well kinda, unless it requires of trading Carr for Vick. :)
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Are we still going with McNair is a racist? I forget, what color is Mario and how much money was he given? What color is Rick Smith?

I wouldn't trade the young core of our Defense for any QB. The future for our D is bright b/c of Mario, otherwise we are starting Peek and Babin or Babin and Kalu. We have a strong, young, defensive core that should be dominant with a good free agency and another strong draft. If Landry and Russell are there at 8 I would take Landry. Of course I am a defensive guy.


If you wanna win, and win in the AFC South, you better have a defense.
 
tulexan said:
A) JaMarcus Russell will not be there at 8 so the point is moot

B) Peterson's injuries have not been chronic and should not be recurring. Anyone can get a high ankle sprain and the broken collar bone was a freak injury. He does not have any structural damage and should be fine.

C) Lynch is a totally different player than Benson. Benson is closer to Peterson than he is to Lynch. With his versatility, you could compare him to a poor man's Tomlinson.

D) Joe Thomas has no chance of being available when the Texans pick.
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"Poor man's Tomlinson" wow thats hilarious.:shades:
 
TEXANRED said:
Are we still going with McNair is a racist? I forget, what color is Mario and how much money was he given? What color is Rick Smith?
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Everyone knows that the only racist owner in town is Drayton McKKKlane. McNair is only guilty of being stubborn for not admitting failure and moving on last offseason.
 
Imatexanfan said:
"Poor man's Tomlinson" wow thats hilarious.:shades:
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Tomlinson is a one of a kind player, there isn't anyone like him and won't be for a long time. It is in no way a criticism of Lynch. It is not like I said a poor man's Kevan Barlow.

Hence a "Poor Man's Tomlinson"
 
tulexan said:
Tomlinson is a one of a kind player, there isn't anyone like him and won't be for a long time. It is in no way a criticism of Lynch. It is not like I said a poor man's Kevan Barlow.

Hence a "Poor Man's Tomlinson"
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YEA AND TO THINK HE CAME FROM TEXAS!!!!!!!!! Thats even more funny, considering all the "yankee talk" on yahoo.:shades:
 
Second Honeymoon said:
yeah, I thought it was too. Lynch is JJ Arrington: Part Deux.
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You can't say that a player will be bad because of where they come from. So JJ Arrington was bad, does that mean every Cal RB will be bad from here on out? Does that mean that Vince Young will be bad because Chris Simms is bad? Or Jay Cutler because he went to Vanderbilt?

Would it have made a difference if he chose to go to UCLA, USC, ASU, or Oregon? The other schools that he passed up to go to Cal. He was the #2 prospect coming out of high school that year behind Peterson.

If you are going to criticize someone, make sure you have sound logic behind your argument, not arbitrary facts that are irrelevant to performance.
 
tulexan said:
You can't say that a player will be bad because of where they come from. So JJ Arrington was bad, does that mean every Cal RB will be bad from here on out? Does that mean that Vince Young will be bad because Chris Simms is bad? Or Jay Cutler because he went to Vanderbilt?

Would it have made a difference if he chose to go to UCLA, USC, ASU, or Oregon? The other schools that he passed up to go to Cal. He was the #2 prospect coming out of high school that year behind Peterson.

If you are going to criticize someone, make sure you have sound logic behind your argument, not arbitrary facts that are irrelevant to performance.
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In college, that could mean a RB system.
 
mexican_texan said:
In college, that could mean a RB system.
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True, which is why you have to kick the tires so to speak. There is a big difference between saying "this guy sucks because he went to x school and y player sucked" and saying "this guy sucks because he doesn't have talent".
 
I'm with Tulexan here. Marshawn Lynch has the best chance of being around at 8 out of all these guys that are being mentioned.

Since it looks like Ron Dayne's here to stay, I think that Lynch would be the best compliment to him in our running game. Lynch could catch these 3-4 yard passes and make some guys miss and rack up some YAC.
 
tulexan said:
True, which is why you have to kick the tires so to speak. There is a big difference between saying "this guy sucks because he went to x school and y player sucked" and saying "this guy sucks because he doesn't have talent".
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BJ Symons put up good numbers but was considered a product of the system.

Its fair to say the Aggie running backs of the 90's were good in college b/c of the system they ran.

Ware was a product of UH's system.
 
TEXANRED said:
BJ Symons put up good numbers but was considered a product of the system.

Its fair to say the Aggie running backs of the 90's were good in college b/c of the system they ran.

Ware was a product of UH's system.
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How is that different from what I just said?

I said that you can take that into consideration, but you can't just make a blanket statement that someone is bad just because they played at a particular school.

Second Honeymoon said that Lynch is Arrington part deux, which implies that he will struggle in the league because Arrington is currently struggling and like Lynch was a Cal Bear. Now one thing is that you could make an argument that for all we know, Arrington could be better than he looks because of Edgerrin James' struggle in Arizona as well, the other thing you could (and should) bring that into the big picture about the prospect when evaluating him. But you don't avoid a big time prospect like him just because he went to Cal.
 
tulexan said:
How is that different from what I just said?

I said that you can take that into consideration, but you can't just make a blanket statement that someone is bad just because they played at a particular school.

Second Honeymoon said that Lynch is Arrington part deux, which implies that he will struggle in the league because Arrington is currently struggling and like Lynch was a Cal Bear. Now one thing is that you could make an argument that for all we know, Arrington could be better than he looks because of Edgerrin James' struggle in Arizona as well, the other thing you could (and should) bring that into the big picture about the prospect when evaluating him. But you don't avoid a big time prospect like him just because he went to Cal.
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I was adding to your comment. Backing you up a little.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Everyone knows that the only racist owner in town is Drayton McKKKlane. McNair is only guilty of being stubborn for not admitting failure and moving on last offseason.
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that's why his second highest ranking player personnel is Assistant General Manager Ricky Bennett, an African Amercian. he also employs Enos Cabell and James Rodney Richard, former Astro greats who hold various prominent public relations positions with the club. they also retired Jimmy Wynn's number #24 in June 2005. i think he's black also. they also signed PANAMANIAN Carlos Lee, a minority, to the largest contract in club history and were willing to do the same for Puerto Rican Carlos Beltran in the winter of 2004.
 
IMO, I don't think we'll be taking anyone with the eigth pick because we'll trade it away. No actual thought process, just a hunch.
 
honestly why does everyone talk about the draft...i mean we aren't gonna end up with who everyone is talking about

everyone is thinking JaMarcus Russell, but i think Kubiak really wants Carr to succeed in this system, for example

everyone was thinking Reggie Bush, then 1 day before the draft we went with Mario Williams, i agree it was a good pick, but after that im just not wasting my time with talk that most likely won't happen
 
DominickDavisFan76 said:
honestly why does everyone talk about the draft...i mean we aren't gonna end up with who everyone is talking about

everyone is thinking JaMarcus Russell, but i think Kubiak really wants Carr to succeed in this system, for example

everyone was thinking Reggie Bush, then 1 day before the draft we went with Mario Williams, i agree it was a good pick, but after that im just not wasting my time with talk that most likely won't happen
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Because, for quite a few people it's good conversation, and fun to hear different opinions, as well as speculate on things. It's crazy fun football talk! :gathering:
 
Doug said:
Because, for quite a few people it's good conversation, and fun to hear different opinions, as well as speculate on things. It's crazy fun football talk! :gathering:
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Also, if you haven't noticed, the Texans are not playing right now and won't be until the summer. So for now free agency and the draft is the talk of the town.
 
Imatexanfan said:
Somone a week or so ago said the draft is always a crap shoot, and I think this year those two words ring true.

The top prospects each have glaring problems or are just not playing up to par in their last college games (Quinn, Landry). But Mr. JaMarcus Russell looks pretty impressive and at 6'5" 250 he can plow over defenders. He is not run happy but when he does run, look out. When there was no one open he threw it away, unlike Quinn, in the bowl game.:secret:

Look if he declares for the draft and is still available with our 8th pick, I don't see how we could pass him up, unless its like the VY "policy" if ya know what I mean, if not......its on another thread (LONG STORY).

Peterson will always have the injury stigma. :hides:

Lynch to me looks like the second coming of Cedric Benson (you know the guy who carries Thomas Jones suitcases)

Joe Thomas (Wisconsin) is the one outstanding lineman and that is good, even though I'm all for it I still don't know, you know what I mean?! :shades:

I say just spin Mattress Mac around blindfold in front of the draftboard and let him pin a tail on a someone's name and we'll get the same results, well kinda, unless it requires of trading Carr for Vick. :)
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Awhile back, I read a good article about Cedric Benson and other RB's in his 'shoes.' The article stated an RB's body could only take so many 'carries' during a players life time before it was 'wore' out and ineffective. Through high school and college, Benson was a 'ball hog' and seldom injured---lots and lots of carries--which means his 'gas tank' is not full...too, he has not been helped by his rookie hold-out and 'attitude.'

My point is that-if we draft a RB on the first day (especially someone in RD 1)-we need to look at both his injury history and his 'wear and tear' status, as well.
 
Well for this argument (i.e. Marshawn Lynch is the second coming of Cedric Benson).

Benson had almost 1200 carries while in college v. Lynch who had under 500.
 
tulexan said:
You can't say that a player will be bad because of where they come from. So JJ Arrington was bad, does that mean every Cal RB will be bad from here on out? Does that mean that Vince Young will be bad because Chris Simms is bad? Or Jay Cutler because he went to Vanderbilt?

Would it have made a difference if he chose to go to UCLA, USC, ASU, or Oregon? The other schools that he passed up to go to Cal. He was the #2 prospect coming out of high school that year behind Peterson.

If you are going to criticize someone, make sure you have sound logic behind your argument, not arbitrary facts that are irrelevant to performance.
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Well I saw Mr. Mashawn get stuffed on third and short. one on one on a goal line play in their bowl game. I'm sure it happened, I don't recall Ladainian ever getting stuffed in that situation. Going by your logic....that makes Lorenzo Booker a high prospect for us, also. He fits your sircumstances. A lot of folks like him on this board. I hope if he's there @ the eight, they've sniffed the guy and move back with a trade. I can see the logic, although I think it's failed logic, on taking All Day. I can see the logic taking Ginn Jr streching a tampa II. But Lynch is not Curtis Martin and is never going to be. Even in this offense. JMHO. If they take him @ 8 with our holes...it's a reach.
 
I like Booker more than Lynch as a pro prospect. I just don't trust players from any Tedford-style system. Call me crazy but I just don't like 'system' players.

My point is that JJ Arrington looked great in college in that system and stunk in NFL. Let's go the safe route in this 1st Round. We can get just as good a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round.
 
DominickDavisFan76 said:
honestly why does everyone talk about the draft...i mean we aren't gonna end up with who everyone is talking about

everyone is thinking JaMarcus Russell, but i think Kubiak really wants Carr to succeed in this system, for example

everyone was thinking Reggie Bush, then 1 day before the draft we went with Mario Williams, i agree it was a good pick, but after that im just not wasting my time with talk that most likely won't happen
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Did you by chance listen to Rick Smith's invertview on 790 on Januarary 5th? It doesn't look good for Carr from what I heard.
 
I think we will try to trade down to #15 or #16 (Pitt. or G.B.) if possible and pick up an extra 2nd rd'er. There will still be some impact players available at these spots to fit our many needs.
 
yourfavoritetexan42 said:
We cannot really build much in this years draft. As good as last years class was, is how bad this years is. I just don't see any solid talent.
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So was Marques Colston and Mark Anderson top tier talent in the last draft?

Just because this draft isnt as hyped up as the last draft doesn't mean that it cant yield some good players that can help out this football team.
 
I'd rather have Russell seriously but I kinda don't see him being available. :hides:

I rate a draft by position, not by 1 through 100, so I look at things a little differently. It's probably wrong, and always has been, but that's what I think is the way to go.

I look at a draft and say:

Quarterbacks

1. J. Russell & :secret: K. Kolb A
2. T. Smith A-
3. B. Quin A-
4. D. Tate B

Running Backs

1. Lynch A
2. Peterson A
3. Bush B

Cornerback

1. Hall A
2. McCauley A
3. Ross A-

(I also tag all safeties as free or strong and it makes a difference depending on what you need and what your division looks like in terms of opponent offense.)

Free safety

1. Nelson A
2. Griffin A-
3. Zbikowski A-
4. Landry B

Strong safety

1. Landry A-
2. Griffin A-
3. Nelson B+
4. Zbikowski B

And then I decide what a team needs. If you don't need a safety, but you do need a corner, I go ahead and take an A- corner over an A safety, but I don't take a B over an A. :yes:

I would take Hall over Lynch because of our needs, and I feel he grades either just the same as Lynch or slightly higher, but I'd take Lynch over Landry because I feel like we need a free safety type who can cover a slot receiver, play centerfield, and protect our weaker corners, not a strong safety type.

I would probably rather have Lynch than Nelson because I rate them similarly at their positions, and I feel like (1) we need a back worse than a safety, and (2) we can pick up a better safety than RB in the second round.

Confusing and maybe not smart and maybe that's why I don't have a job in a front office, I just do what it do. :shades:
 
Who says Arrington is bad. I mean, look at Edge. He looked like an ordinary back in Arizona with that Horrible OL. I think arrington would be ok with another team.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
If they didn't draft VY there is no way in hell they will draft Russell. We need to hope Gaines Adams, Leon Hall, or Branch are available when we pick. If we get any of those 3 guys I would consider the 1st Round a success. Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson are going to be long gone and they are the elite prospects imho. AP would be be included with them but he has the injury stigma and the high mileage on his tires courtesy of Stoops. If AP is available at #8 I think we should look hard at him. The fact that he was willing to do so much to help his team says measures for his character, heart, and competitive fire....even if it was to the detriment of his physical condition.

oh and Lynch is garbage imho. Just another Tedford-style product West Coast stat factory ala JJ Arrington.

If Sam Baker OT grades well in the combines I wouldnt be against us using the #8 on him as well.

I was on the Draft Landry bandwagon earlier cause it was such an area of need but from what I saw in the Sugar Bowl, I didn't see all that much to show he merits that early of a pick. He was always around the ball so he can read the QB but I didn't see the physical tools taht would validate such an early pick.
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I agree with you (for a change).

The teams ahead of us in the draft are teams that are always drafting high each year: They are like people who pan for gold, or buy lottery tickets, thinking they will strike it rich in a quick and easy fashion.

Other than Robert Gallery, when have the Raiders NOT taken the hyped up QB or RB or WR? The Browns, the Raiders, the Lions, the Cardinals, they all shot for the flashy pick that can make them the talk of the town...and it always gets them right back into the top draft spots every year.

I'm with you: If Branch or Adams is there....RUN to the commissioner. If AP is there, it is tough to ignore his determination and his ability to will himself on each run. But his injury issue is a concern.

Thomas will be gone. Calvin Johnson will be gone. Jemarcus Russell will be gone. We might actually luck out and get to pick up one of the stud DL prospects.

But I still lay 50-50 on us trading down a few spots and more than likely to get an extra pick AND still pick up Landry at the FS spot.

It's not a gamble if you refuse to act like the Lions/Browns/Raiders/Cardinals. How good SHOULD those teams be when it seems they've been picking 1-2-3-4 for so many years?
 
Second Honeymoon said:
If they didn't draft VY there is no way in hell they will draft Russell. We need to hope Gaines Adams, Leon Hall, or Branch are available when we pick. If we get any of those 3 guys I would consider the 1st Round a success. Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson are going to be long gone and they are the elite prospects imho. AP would be be included with them but he has the injury stigma and the high mileage on his tires courtesy of Stoops. If AP is available at #8 I think we should look hard at him. The fact that he was willing to do so much to help his team says measures for his character, heart, and competitive fire....even if it was to the detriment of his physical condition.

oh and Lynch is garbage imho. Just another Tedford-style product West Coast stat factory ala JJ Arrington.

If Sam Baker OT grades well in the combines I wouldnt be against us using the #8 on him as well.
I was on the Draft Landry bandwagon earlier cause it was such an area of need but from what I saw in the Sugar Bowl, I didn't see all that much to show he merits that early of a pick. He was always around the ball so he can read the QB but I didn't see the physical tools taht would validate such an early pick.
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Sorry, Baker is going back to school, but I would take him in a heartbeat at #8 if he were coming out!

Jared Gaither (6'9", 350 lbs) of Maryland has declared and will probably be the 2nd OT taken in the draft. He's very athletic and moves well, but he's also very raw from what I've heard. Don't know if the Texans would take him at #8, but he will probably be gone by #15 from what I've read. This could change after the combine though. JMHO!
 
Russell will be picked up by Oakland and ruined. Quinn has asked to go to the browns because he sees potential there...ha ha ha. La Landry is a too slow to be effective as help over the middle, but he can deliver a hit he reminds me of Roy Williams. Last thing we need is a mistake like dallas happening here.
 
tulexan said:
B) Peterson's injuries have not been chronic and should not be recurring. Anyone can get a high ankle sprain and the broken collar bone was a freak injury. He does not have any structural damage and should be fine.
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I hear ya....... but with our luck, and his history, it would be hard for me to take him, even at #8..... especially if Detroit(or someone) passes on him, and takes Marshawn Lynch first.

I'm not saying that I would pass. I'm not saying that we should pass.... I'm saying if he is there at 8.... I wouldn't know what to do.
 
If any team is interested in trading to take our #8 pick, I would be incline to listen to them.
Russell/Thomas are not going to be there @ 8.
Quinn/Lynch is overrated.
Do not want to take a 4th 1st rnd pick on yet another D-lineman.
Trade down & get O-line help or take lb Paul P. from PSU.
 
thunderkyss said:
I hear ya....... but with our luck, and his history, it would be hard for me to take him, even at #8..... especially if Detroit(or someone) passes on him, and takes Marshawn Lynch first.

I'm not saying that I would pass. I'm not saying that we should pass.... I'm saying if he is there at 8.... I wouldn't know what to do.
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If Russel's there take him, if not take AP, if both not there take K. Kolb before he gets taken, kapeash?!:tease:
 
tulexan said:
A) JaMarcus Russell will not be there at 8 so the point is moot

B) Peterson's injuries have not been chronic and should not be recurring. Anyone can get a high ankle sprain and the broken collar bone was a freak injury. He does not have any structural damage and should be fine.

C) Lynch is a totally different player than Benson. Benson is closer to Peterson than he is to Lynch. With his versatility, you could compare him to a poor man's Tomlinson.

D) Joe Thomas has no chance of being available when the Texans pick.
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Nobody thought Matt Leinart would last until 10. Everyone had vy, matt Leinart, and Jat Cutler going in like the top 6 or 7. Anything can happen. Rick Smith said it is likely we can trade up, so that leaves some hope too.
 
macaronitoni said:
Nobody thought Matt Leinart would last until 10. Everyone had vy, matt Leinart, and Jat Cutler going in like the top 6 or 7. Anything can happen. Rick Smith said it is likely we can trade up, so that leaves some hope too.
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I think Rick Smith was more pointing to another team wanting to trade up with us and we move back and acquire extra picks, not that we would give away picks to move up a few spots. You are right though, some players will unexpectedly fall and you never know what will happen.
 
Watch Florida's safety, Reggie Nelson, tonight during the championship game.

This is from espn.com, regarding the impact of Reggie Nelson on tonight's game:

Reggie Nelson. The All-American safety is not just a good football player, Meyer said Friday. Nelson is, "one of the best football players I have ever been around." Nelson plays the best center field east of Jim Edmonds. He knows how to deliver a blow. And he knows how to take one, too. Just last month, Nelson lost his mother to breast cancer. He has not appeared before the media this week, but he is "doing great," Meyer said, and will continue to be an integral part of the Gators' defense Monday night.

link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/news/story?id=2723646

scroll down to bottom and it's the No. 1 reason that Ivan Maisel predicts Florida can beat Ohio State.

Should be interesting to see if Reggie Nelson really is the player that Urban Meyer thinks he is. Let's see how he handles OSU tonight.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
Watch Florida's safety, Reggie Nelson, tonight during the championship game.

This is from espn.com, regarding the impact of Reggie Nelson on tonight's game:

Reggie Nelson. The All-American safety is not just a good football player, Meyer said Friday. Nelson is, "one of the best football players I have ever been around." Nelson plays the best center field east of Jim Edmonds. He knows how to deliver a blow. And he knows how to take one, too. Just last month, Nelson lost his mother to breast cancer. He has not appeared before the media this week, but he is "doing great," Meyer said, and will continue to be an integral part of the Gators' defense Monday night.

link: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls06/news/story?id=2723646

scroll down to bottom and it's the No. 1 reason that Ivan Maisel predicts Florida can beat Ohio State.

Should be interesting to see if Reggie Nelson really is the player that Urban Meyer thinks he is. Let's see how he handles OSU tonight.
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You may have just mentioned what can be the determining factor in what kind of player falls to us. If this kid does well, he could go early which means other players fall to us.
 
El Tejano said:
You may have just mentioned what can be the determining factor in what kind of player falls to us. If this kid does well, he could go early which means other players fall to us.
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Or....




We take him.
 
macaronitoni said:
Nobody thought Matt Leinart would last until 10. Everyone had vy, matt Leinart, and Jat Cutler going in like the top 6 or 7. Anything can happen. Rick Smith said it is likely we can trade up, so that leaves some hope too.
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Who had Cutler going in the top 7? He was expected to go around 15 or 16. But, Matt Leinart was expected to go top 5.
 
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