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Did Carr Do Enough?

Did Carr do enough to be here next season?

  • Yes

    Votes: 53 27.7%

  • No

    Votes: 138 72.3%
  • Total voters
    191
TexanFanInCC

TexanFanInCC

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Well? My opinion. No he didnt. Im pleased with the win, but Carr had to come out and make a statement, and I dont think he did that, expecially against a battered browns defense. What is your opinion? I do appreciate what he has done for this franchise. He has given his body for this team. A change of scenary is what is needed and I do wish Carr the best of luck down the road.
 
well the other thing i see is that no matter what, people in houston are going to be pissed off at carr because we did not draft vince young. because we didnt draft him, all of carr's mistakes are going to take much heavier criticism than they probably deserve, and i think that is why carr may be better off playing in a different setting where he wont take heat. nonetheless, i still think carr's production was insufficient.
 
I like David Carr,but I don't think he did enough, not for the am't of money he is getting paid. I used to defend that argument, but now wondering. If there was a restructure of his contract, Iwould be happy.. I know the OL was injured this season and we went through multiple line variation, but if Carr is back I will support him, but I won't be suprised if he isn't back. But as someone said, if he is getting paid as a top 5 QB, then we don't need to see 2nd half of the season slumps..
 
Probably not enough to unequivicaly say yes or no (kind of the issue for 5 years). Probably be back because of cap and all that, but look for a development type QB to be taken in the draft. MIGHT see Plummer brought in to push him, but it will need to be relatively cheap.
 
He didn't do enough at all........BUT since ol' BOB is on his nads all the time................he'll be here next year.:spy:
 
hey one game doesnt say it all u know.. this season has been up and down like a rollercoaster.. .

how much is it on David, the line and the running game will be decided by the coaches... we see the games from one angle and the coaches see them in every angle so..

Hell who cares now.. 2-14 --> 6-10 how can you not be happy for one day of the year..be piss next year (tomorrow)
 
Either way i see it, Carr will be around atleast 1 more year. We need to bring someone in to challenge Carr in the off-season, although Sage might can be that person. I wouldn't be real upset tho, if we were to find another qb, just not Plummer, and draft a prospect in later rounds, Kolb or Tate. Either way something has to happen this off-season.
 
carr is still making mistakes that you try to teach ROOKIE qbs not to make. carr is not a rookie, he is a highly paid 5th yr veteran. he was paid bc they were expecting him to flourish with kubiak. it is not because of kubiaks system that carr still doesnt make proper reads in his progressions or still makes throws that make no sense directly at opposing defenders.
 
He sure didnt. He won MAYBE 4 games this year.. the running game and defense won the other games. More importantly.. he lost 10.

Honestly though, he just didnt show me anything. He started off strong.. and then showed no ability to stand up in tough situations.. make plays when we were in trouble... make smart decisions.. etc..etc..etc..

We need more from our QB if we are gonna turn this team around fast. Carr is not the answer here.
 
Goldeagle said:
He won 6 games this year.
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carr didnt win all 6. the running game probably had the most to do with the wins. carr made a few good plays....but comeon, i cant think of any one memorable carr throw this year. i see the running game playing well today, ron dayne having a career game vs. indy, wali lundy in the 1-2 big games he had. carr was probably the key to success in probably 3 of the wins, both vs jax and the game vs miami. PLUS, 11 td passes and 12 int's for a 5th yr QB is not good... thats not progress. thats going in reverse.
 
TexanFanInCC said:
carr didnt win all 6. the running game probably had the most to do with the wins. carr made a few good plays....but comeon, i cant think of any one memorable carr throw this year. i see the running game playing well today, ron dayne having a career game vs. indy, wali lundy in the 1-2 big games he had. carr was probably the key to success in probably 3 of the wins, both vs jax and the game vs miami. PLUS, 11 td passes and 12 int's for a 5th yr QB is not good... thats not progress. thats going in reverse.
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I see your point that carr didn't win all of those 6 games. But, would you then be willing to say that Vince Young did not win all of his games either (especially since his kicker hit two incredible field goals). I agree that David did not win all of them, but how many people would say that VY did not win all of his?
 
leachmtb said:
I see your point that carr didn't win all of those 6 games. But, would you then be willing to say that Vince Young did not win all of his games either (especially since his kicker hit two incredible field goals). I agree that David did not win all of them, but how many people would say that VY did not win all of his?
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Still, Vince>>>>>>>>>>Carr.
 
K.D. said:
Either way i see it, Carr will be around atleast 1 more year. We need to bring someone in to challenge Carr in the off-season, although Sage might can be that person. I wouldn't be real upset tho, if we were to find another qb, just not Plummer, and draft a prospect in later rounds, Kolb or Tate. Either way something has to happen this off-season.
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I agree. I like Carr as well. Not a stellar day for the guy, but in the end, it's all about the W. I like the idea of getting someone in here that will challenge Carr. Rosenfels was doing a good job up until that special teams injury. Hopefully they draft a quality rookie QB in the draft. Hoping for Troy Smith, but Kolb wouldn't be bad - if these guys are still around.
 
hell you cant change him all they way.. but i tell you Kubiak can make him better next year.. better O-line and better running game will make a better David Carr
 
i think if i remember correctly, only 2 of our wins should be considered "comfortable" wins. thats not something to be proud of. wins are wins, but you cant flirt with the mendoza line for too long.
 
leachmtb said:
I see your point that carr didn't win all of those 6 games. But, would you then be willing to say that Vince Young did not win all of his games either (especially since his kicker hit two incredible field goals). I agree that David did not win all of them, but how many people would say that VY did not win all of his?
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i think young's presence and influence had a big part of why the titans are even a .500 team. they were 0-5 before vince became the every day starter. this team couldnt play defense, and offensively, it appeared as if there was not one defined go-to reciever. vince's presence made a big difference. i didnt start this thread to talk about vince young, so im ending it now. no vince talk in this thread please!
 
Grid said:
He sure didnt. He won MAYBE 4 games this year.. the running game and defense won the other games. More importantly.. he lost 10.

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LOL how can you make that post in fairness- you only give him credit for some of the wins but all the losses?? were the buffalo, nyg, 1st colts etc on carr... i think he will be here next year but doesnt deserve to be
 
TexanFanInCC said:
i think young's presence and influence had a big part of why the titans are even a .500 team. they were 0-5 before vince became the every day starter. this team couldnt play defense, and offensively, it appeared as if there was not one defined go-to reciever. vince's presence made a big difference. i didnt start this thread to talk about vince young, so im ending it now. no vince talk in this thread please!
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I see your point, I'm not arguing that Vince has not made them better. But, if someone is going to say that David did not win all of our games (which I am not arguing with, I don't think that he won any but the Jacksonville games), how can you then say that Vince WON them for the Titans. I'm not arguing that he made them better.
 
I don't think he did enough to guarantee himself a starting slot for next year, but that's not to say that we should get rid of him in the off-season unless someone offers us something very worth while. I say bringing in Plummer isn't such a bad idea, or drafting a QB to groom for a year or so.

on a side note, fans in the stadium booing after kubes decided not to punch it in on the last drive make me sick & ashamed to be a houston texans fan. The win was CLEARLY in hand & there was no need to score. You could even see it in the players' faces after the boos rained down in the stadium after Carr took a knee. They were looking around like "are you serious?"

I say BOOOOOO to the fans in the stadium for being classless.
 
I wish people would quit comparing VY to Carr. That train done came and left. Carr is, was, the texans QB this year and now we will see what happens. I think it's a safe bet that VY will NoT be here next year in a Texans uniform.
 
Maddict5 said:
LOL how can you make that post in fairness- you only give him credit for some of the wins but all the losses?? were the buffalo, nyg, 1st colts etc on carr... i think he will be here next year but doesnt deserve to be
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Because he is objective and all. hahaha

You know, I was ALL for an amicable Carr trade before today. Now, I want him to stay here to torment the "classy" fans in Houston... especially the ones that booed at the end of the game.

I say give Carr a pay raise and cut Sage, sign Jake Plummer to a huge deal, and draft a punter in the 1st round.

I love reading these haters whiny rants. Go cry for me some more.
 
TexanLen said:
I wish people would quit comparing VY to Carr. That train done came and left. Carr is, was, the texans QB this year and now we will see what happens. I think it's a safe bet that VY will NoT be here next year in a Texans uniform.
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your right i doubt the titans would get rid of a winner like VY but with our system we dont need a winner at QB:stirpot:
 
leachmtb said:
I see your point that carr didn't win all of those 6 games. But, would you then be willing to say that Vince Young did not win all of his games either (especially since his kicker hit two incredible field goals). I agree that David did not win all of them, but how many people would say that VY did not win all of his?
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Well, I was trying to refrain from turning this into a VY vs. Carr thread b/c it is really a mute point at this time since we already passed on the chance to get him. But if you want to bring it up, VY really did more for his team than Carr did for us...and VY is only a rookie "who still needs 3-4 years to develop into a starter in the NFL" according to most "experts" and a lot of fans on this MB. Let's take a look:



(before today, which will make Carr's stats worse and VY's better BTW)
Carr: 68.6 comp%, 11 TD, 11 INT, 201 rushing w/ 2 TD, 29 poor throws, 18 passes tipped at the line

VY: 52.6 comp%, 12 TD, 11 INT, 523 rushing yds w/ 6 TD, 51 poor throws, 5 passes tipped at the line



Wow! What a drastic difference between the 5-yr starter and 1st-yr starter:shades:

And none the above stats even take into account the numerous Carr fumbles, the fact that Carr has MUCH better WRs & TEs, or the several VY 4th quarter comebacks compared to Carr's...what? maybe one?:stirpot:

P.S.--Nice to see that VY's side-arm throwing motion has really resulted in more tipped passes than our protypical QB:secret:
 
#Ocho said:
Because he is objective and all. hahaha

You know, I was ALL for an amicable Carr trade before today. Now, I want him to stay here to torment the "classy" fans in Houston... especially the ones that booed at the end of the game.

I say give Carr a pay raise and cut Sage, sign Jake Plummer to a huge deal, and draft a punter in the 1st round.

I love reading these haters whiny rants. Go cry for me some more.
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Go watch Fresno State on Espn Classics ... their not on that channel ... oh ... never mind .
 
AustinJB said:
Well, I was trying to refrain from turning this into a VY vs. Carr thread b/c it is really a mute point at this time since we already passed on the chance to get him. But if you want to bring it up, VY really did more for his team than Carr did for us...and VY is only a rookie "who still needs 3-4 years to develop into a starter in the NFL" according to most "experts" and a lot of fans on this MB. Let's take a look:



(before today, which will make Carr's stats worse and VY's better BTW)
Carr: 68.6 comp%, 11 TD, 11 INT, 201 rushing w/ 2 TD, 29 poor throws, 18 passes tipped at the line

VY: 52.6 comp%, 12 TD, 11 INT, 523 rushing yds w/ 6 TD, 51 poor throws, 5 passes tipped at the line



Wow! What a drastic difference between the 5-yr starter and 1st-yr starter:shades:

And none the above stats even take into account the numerous Carr fumbles, the fact that Carr has MUCH better WRs & TEs, or the several VY 4th quarter comebacks compared to Carr's...what? maybe one?:stirpot:

P.S.--Nice to see that VY's side-arm throwing motion has really resulted in more tipped passes than our protypical QB:secret:
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Great Post!:yes:
 
TexanFanInCC said:
Well? My opinion. No he didnt. Im pleased with the win, but Carr had to come out and make a statement, and I dont think he did that, expecially against a battered browns defense. What is your opinion? I do appreciate what he has done for this franchise. He has given his body for this team. A change of scenary is what is needed and I do wish Carr the best of luck down the road.
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No, he did not come out and make a statement.
 
AustinJB said:
Well, I was trying to refrain from turning this into a VY vs. Carr thread b/c it is really a mute point at this time since we already passed on the chance to get him. But if you want to bring it up, VY really did more for his team than Carr did for us...and VY is only a rookie "who still needs 3-4 years to develop into a starter in the NFL" according to most "experts" and a lot of fans on this MB. Let's take a look:



(before today, which will make Carr's stats worse and VY's better BTW)
Carr: 68.6 comp%, 11 TD, 11 INT, 201 rushing w/ 2 TD, 29 poor throws, 18 passes tipped at the line

VY: 52.6 comp%, 12 TD, 11 INT, 523 rushing yds w/ 6 TD, 51 poor throws, 5 passes tipped at the line



Wow! What a drastic difference between the 5-yr starter and 1st-yr starter:shades:

And none the above stats even take into account the numerous Carr fumbles, the fact that Carr has MUCH better WRs & TEs, or the several VY 4th quarter comebacks compared to Carr's...what? maybe one?:stirpot:

P.S.--Nice to see that VY's side-arm throwing motion has really resulted in more tipped passes than our protypical QB:secret:
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I apologize, I was not trying to have a VY vs. Carr thing going. I was simply trying to get the absolutely subjective point of David Carr losing every game for the Texans and not winning any. It was a poor attempt at trying to poinot out absurdity (in hopes that people would recognize that VY has not WON every game for the Titans, he has made them better). No one person WINS games for a team. This is not the freaking NBA.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Go watch Fresno State on Espn Classics ... their not on that channel ... oh ... never mind .
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"their not on that channel"

Good thing you can at least spell ESPN. I'll bet you David Carr can spell "they're" correctly in context. Oh wait, we're not talking about football are we.

BTW, in case you didn't know, they've (not "they be") shown two Fresno State vs. USC games on the classics. I'll bet you were too busy with the thesaurus to notice that.
 
#Ocho said:
"their not on that channel"

Good thing you can at least spell ESPN. I'll bet you David Carr can spell "they're" correctly in context. Oh wait, we're not talking about football are we.

BTW, in case you didn't know, they've (not "they be") shown two Fresno State vs. USC games on the classics. I'll bet you were too busy with the thesaurus to notice that.
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Oh boo hoo ... all right I can't spell sometimes ... is that the best you got .

Talk about my dead mother next .
 
The only thing he showed today is how he can get so locked on 1 reciever that he no longer sees the 6'3 250lb linebacker in the way
 
leachmtb said:
I apologize, I was not trying to have a VY vs. Carr thing going. I was simply trying to get the absolutely subjective point of David Carr losing every game for the Texans and not winning any. It was a poor attempt at trying to poinot out absurdity (in hopes that people would recognize that VY has not WON every game for the Titans, he has made them better). No one person WINS games for a team. This is not the freaking NBA.
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Okay, I can see your point.

VY has not WON every game for the Titans. But if VY had not been the QB, they probably wouldn't have led numerous 4th quarter comebacks like they did. They almost certainly wouldn't have beat us in overtime w/ a 40 yd TD run. Didn't they have a losing record before VY took over?

Carr has not lost every game for us, but if he wasn't our starting QB, we certainly wouldn't be a worse team. IMO, we would be significantly better.

The Titans would be a worse team if they didn't have VY; the Texans would probably be a better team w/out Carr.....That was the point that I was trying to make.
 
Napa Auto Parts said:
But do they show David Carr Destroying the Aggies the utah aggies that is.:stirpot:
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Good point. I think the mighty Utah St. Aggies were in a far superior conference back during David's time. I think it was the Big West.

They've had good years but they are not very good right now and they'll be just as bad next year. In fact they suck almost as bad as the Texans. They used to take Prop 48 players when the Pac-10 teams couldn't take them. That's why FS used to put a lot of players into the NFL.
 
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