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wwffan99tx

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I've been pondering this and have come to the conclusion that I myself will give him 1 more year. Honestly, this is his rookie year in the NFL. The previous 4 years the Texans lacked talent and coaching to qualify as an NFL team. More like a CFL team. With that said, I looked at some stats and saw that in Plummers first year with Kubiak the team went 10-6 (he started 11 games). But he also had an O-LINE MUCH better than the Texans have and also had Clinton Portis in the backfield. Carr has shown some glimpses of growth although he has also played some of the worst QB in the league this year. Maybe the system is finally sinking in. Maybe he can be better next year under Kubiak. After all this is the first year he has had ANY coaching. What'cha think? :hides:
 
I'm with ya. that and that contract makes it prety hard not to believe other wise. I don't wanna turn into bacteria for sure. Steve Young struggled just a tad in Tamapa Bay befor he was snapped up by the 9ers. That worked out prety good for them. Comes to starting over with a rookie or standing pat. I'm on board with ya big guy. One thing is for certain...we ain't trading ten picks to get the water walker back.

But there are some who will.....


Keep Hope Alive !!!
 
people say he doesnt have the intangibles and what not, but i've seen some flashes of brillians, like the TD he dove in for vs the giants or the fake again the dolphins or more recently against the colts the pass that set up the fg. he may not be a superstar but we can win with him, we need a couple of linemen, and speedy RB. he may not be having the best season but he needs our support to succeed, we need to back him up in the browns game and the next season as well. however even with an improved oline he keeps fumbling and throwing 4 ints a game then hes out.
 
If Carr plays another mistake free game vs. the Browns then the texans finished 3-2 in their last 5 games. I feel that would merit him a chance to COMPETE for the starting job in training camp. It's in everyone's interest for Carr to turn into a good QB with Kubiak's help but based on what I have seen for 5 years I don't think its very likely. If he wins against Cleveland and then plays well in preseason/training camp and shows Kubiak a bit more heart and dedication I think chances are he will be starting Week One for us. Do I think that is the way to go? No. But I think the Texans organization feels that is the way to go, Kubiak included.

If he performs poorly against the Browns, all bets are off....
 
I agree wwff i was willing to get rid of him last year when the draft was deep with good quarterbacks. But Kubiak made a commitment to stick with Carr for 3 yrs., so the least they can do is give him another year to get it right. They must have seen something good about him the last 4 years to give him the contract. So just build around him next year and lets make the playoffs.....go Texans:redtowel: :yahoo:
 
If DC is our QB in 2007 (which my Magic 8 tells me "ask again later"), then I'll cheer him on accordingly. Should we part ways, I'll wish him the best and root for whoever plays QB for the Houston Texans. I have absolutely no choice in the matter, other than to root or not to root (is that the question?).

How's that for giving him another chance? :howdy: deserved criticism & praise is still fair game, tho'
 
Double Barrel said:
If DC is our QB in 2007 (which my Magic 8 tells me "ask again later"), then I'll cheer him on accordingly. Should we part ways, I'll wish him the best and root for whoever plays QB for the Houston Texans. I have absolutely no choice in the matter, other than to root or not to root (is that the question?).

How's that for giving him another chance? :howdy: deserved criticism & praise is still fair game, tho'
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If he is back and does not progress while the Texans fail to make it over .500 then Kubiak/Smith must make the playoffs in 2008 or they are done in my opinion. You cannot pay a premium for average and be competitive week in, week out in the NFL.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
If he is back and does not progress while the Texans fail to make it over .500 then Kubiak/Smith must make the playoffs in 2008 or they are done in my opinion. You cannot pay a premium for average and be competitive week in, week out in the NFL.
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yep, I agree. When they decided to hitch their wagon to that horse, they have to either ride into the glorious sunset of winning seasons or go off the cliff with it accordingly. :howdy:

The truth is, I'll be a Texans fan long after everyone involved (on the team) is long gone.
 
I am slightly disappointed with Carr as I pegged him to have at least 18 TD's at the end of the season and be around 3,000 yards. I have no problem in bringing in a QB to push him and legitimately qualify for the starting spot based on prior accomplishments. Guys like Jeff Garcia and Jake Plummer fit that mold. If Carr however still beats them out then we can focus on other badly needed areas of the team; CB, S, OL.
That's not to say I don't want him back, because I do. I think he has 1 more year left in the Kubiak system to lead us to an above .500 record. With a solid offensive line and running game I think he can do this. We've already paid the bonus money so he stays, we can't keep crying over not taking Young, Bush or D'Brick (yes I said that). Give him and offense more meat in the trenches and solidify this scheme. this is our 1st year in this system folks from a team that was 2-14. Casserly and Capers were fired for a reason and I tend to think it wasn't all on David Carr. We can almost tripple our wins from 2005 this next game, that right there is something to build on.
 
I am also on the bandwagon that says give him another year. Since we did nothing last year with 3 QB's coming out that were all top notch, did I say that?, then this is NOT the year to pull the plug and try for a 4th rate QB coming out this year. I do not think for 1 minute Sage R is the guy either. Or Plummer, or Bledsoe, or Garcia, or Cunningham, or, well you get the point...
 
I don't think Smith should be held accountable for the Carr debacle. He didn't have a hand in it to the best of my knowledge.

Now him being a good friend of Kubiak, he would probably leave or be fired if Kubiak came under the hot seat and was fired. McNair has shown patience with his HC and GM in the past (almost to a fault) but i actually prefer that method for ownership regarding those 2 positions.

Look at Pittsburgh as a model and to a lesser extent Baltimore/Billick, New England/Bilichik and Denver/Shanahan. Cowher had many bad seasons where the heat was on him. Fans wanted him gone. They kept him and he eventually rewarded the org and the fans and was pretty successful as a whole over the span of his career. When a player knows that the coach is in charge and isn't going anywhere anytime soon, they tend to buy into the system more.

The Steelers don't fire many coaches or front office personnel. Most get hired away by other teams. When that starts to happen you know you are on the right path.
 
SESupergenius said:
I am slightly disappointed with Carr as I pegged him to have at least 18 TD's at the end of the season and be around 3,000 yards. I have no problem in bringing in a QB to push him and legitimately qualify for the starting spot based on prior accomplishments. Guys like Jeff Garcia and Jake Plummer fit that mold. If Carr however still beats them out then we can focus on other badly needed areas of the team; CB, S, OL.
That's not to say I don't want him back, because I do. I think he has 1 more year left in the Kubiak system to lead us to an above .500 record. With a solid offensive line and running game I think he can do this. We've already paid the bonus money so he stays, we can't keep crying over not taking Young, Bush or D'Brick (yes I said that). Give him and offense more meat in the trenches and solidify this scheme. this is our 1st year in this system folks from a team that was 2-14. Casserly and Capers were fired for a reason and I tend to think it wasn't all on David Carr. We can almost tripple our wins from 2005 this next game, that right there is something to build on.
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I may not be happy about it personally, but I think that is probably how things will shake out and how things will get spun by the org and media in general. I think you are right on target except I don't think we can afford to bring in a Garcia or Plummer and Carr and Sage. Both Carr and Sage are signed. Garcia and Plummer will probably be the cream of the crop in regards to Veteran QBs. I wouldn't have a problem with Carr coming back and competing against Sage for the job.

Garcia and Plummer can stay away. Maybe a Tim Rattay or who knows even a Tim Couch to come in and make it a 3 man race. Couch is a pretty damn good athlete and has been out of football a while. I wouldnt be against giving him the NFL minimum and seeing what he had left in the tank...not a lot of miles on those tires and he would be DIRT cheap
 
wwffan99tx said:
I've been pondering this and have come to the conclusion that I myself will give him 1 more year. Honestly, this is his rookie year in the NFL. The previous 4 years the Texans lacked talent and coaching to qualify as an NFL team. More like a CFL team. With that said, I looked at some stats and saw that in Plummers first year with Kubiak the team went 10-6 (he started 11 games). But he also had an O-LINE MUCH better than the Texans have and also had Clinton Portis in the backfield. Carr has shown some glimpses of growth although he has also played some of the worst QB in the league this year. Maybe the system is finally sinking in. Maybe he can be better next year under Kubiak. After all this is the first year he has had ANY coaching. What'cha think? :hides:
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I think you need to stop drining Bobby Mcnair's Kool-Aid it's giving you brain damage!
 
Despite people whining about us not getting VY or Bush, this last year has been extremely productive in the advancement of this team.

Defensively, we switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3. We added three nice pieces to our front seven (Mario, Ryans, and Weaver) plus we rediscovered an existing one (Greenwood). The secondary needs work, but we are even more clear about where our strengths and weaknesses are on that side of the ball.

Offensively, we improved our receiving core (Moulds and Daniels) plus we found a nice power back (Dayne). Unfortunately the number of injuries on the line leave us with even more questions about that unit and that side of the ball as a whole. As for our embattled QB, Carr? He looks less and less like the man that will be here for our first playoff appearance. We do, however, seem to have a solid backup QB in Sage Rosenfels.

The special teams have some work as well. Mathis has more hamstring issues than Donte Stallworth, but, his replacement, Wynn has done an admirable job. Chad Stanley seems to have played his way off the team after this season, but the verdict is still out on Kris Brown.

If this next offseason goes well, I could see us with a .500 or better record in 2007. Can we do it? Lets just have some faith.
 
TheOgre said:
Despite people whining about us not getting VY or Bush, this last year has been extremely productive in the advancement of this team.

Defensively, we switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3. We added three nice pieces to our front seven (Mario, Ryans, and Weaver) plus we rediscovered an existing one (Greenwood). The secondary needs work, but we are even more clear about where our strengths and weaknesses are on that side of the ball.

Offensively, we improved our receiving core (Moulds and Daniels) plus we found a nice power back (Dayne). Unfortunately the number of injuries on the line leave us with even more questions about that unit and that side of the ball as a whole. As for our embattled QB, Carr? He looks less and less like the man that will be here for our first playoff appearance. We do, however, seem to have a solid backup QB in Sage Rosenfels.

The special teams have some work as well. Mathis has more hamstring issues than Donte Stallworth, but, his replacement, Wynn has done an admirable job. Chad Stanley seems to have played his way off the team after this season, but the verdict is still out on Kris Brown.

If this next offseason goes well, I could see us with a .500 or better record in 2007. Can we do it? Lets just have some faith.
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I agree man. They elevated their talent level greatly this offseason. When you throw in thomas johnson, maddox, and vashon lane into the puzzle as late additions, they have really made a lot of really shrewd moves. They still need some more depth at OL and a healthy Flanagan at Center but I think even the much-betrodden OL shows some great promise for the future.

I feel the Texans' holes are FS, Pass Rushing OLB or DE, RB depth, and OL depth. I think Smith has managed to help our DT depth and our FB situation on the fly. Kudos to him. QB is a hole but I think Sage could come in and possibly fill it and if he can't we got a Carr that is already bought and paid for even if it kinda sucks imho.
 
HomeBred_Texan said:
I am also on the bandwagon that says give him another year. Since we did nothing last year with 3 QB's coming out that were all top notch, did I say that?, then this is NOT the year to pull the plug and try for a 4th rate QB coming out this year. I do not think for 1 minute Sage R is the guy either. Or Plummer, or Bledsoe, or Garcia, or Cunningham, or, well you get the point...
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I am on record stating that I believe that Carr is an average inconsistent QB and that is what he is until something on the field makes me change that opinion. That said, when I look at the list of suspects there is not one of those guys who automaticaly is any improvement from Carr. I think same dog different fleas. In 2007, odds are against the Texans having any better QBing that Carr provides and most likely see manage the game football from whoever is under center. Overall, not excited about the prospects of waiting out a rookie for two or three years, a veteran stop gap or Carr.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
In 2007, odds are against the Texans having any better QBing that Carr provides and most likely see manage the game football from whoever is under center. Overall, not excited about the prospects of waiting out a rookie for two or three years, a veteran stop gap or Carr.
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In other words, we missed the boat. A lot of people feel that way, but the ship sailed, so we'll just have to see if the tide washes up a seaworthy dinghy.



Whew. There's all my nautical references for the day. Gotta get those clichés in somehow...
 
Keyser Soze said:
In other words, we missed the boat. A lot of people feel that way, but the ship sailed, so we'll just have to see if the tide washes up a seaworthy dinghy.



Whew. There's all my nautical references for the day. Gotta get those clichés in somehow...
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As long as somebody does not attempt to sell me something else, I understand that you can win in the NFL with manager style QBs. This means that the FO should spend the off season developing a salty defense, up grading the OL, and finding another skill position player or two. Make the rest of the team better, and let it drag the QB position along. As long as we win.
 
If the coaches decide to bring him back for another year.. im not gonna give up on him. But, I would definatly berate them if they didnt go into next season with a backup plan.. meaning, draft someone, sign a vet.. something.

And id want them to have less patience with him as well.. if he is making the same mistakes, bench him and go to the backup plan.
 
Man o' man!! Decisions, decisions. Well, since i am just a fan and they won't listen to me anyway, i say uhhh... retracting what i said after the very upsetting Titans game, i wouldn't mind if he got another chance. Let's get the O' line healthy, get DD back, use the second coming of Bettis in Ron Dayne, and see what he does. If we don't get a good RB in the draft, I wouldn't mind a bad a** O'lineman or DB. :ok:
 
I'm in agreement with this, but since I'm a "replace the O-Line" proponent that has been my opinion every year. This year more than others since we are starting to build a pretty good team. I just cannot see justifying paying another average QB his salary + the money it cost us to release Carr while there are many more deserving and cost effective changes that can be made instead.

I say release the guys that always play below average, and keep Carr. Because although people cannot seem to remember anything good that Carr has done. I do. even this year IMHO. Besides that, He is like gumby, he just wont break. and if you do ever head towards the playoffs, that is a major plus.:)
 
How many chances can he get! It's his 5th year! He's not a rookie like some of you'll say. Stop blaming everyone else for Carr's faults. He should have made some progress over the years, but he still looks like a rookie to me. You'll think just because of the win vs. the Colts, or a couple of nice plays, that he's turned the corner. But he hasn't.
 
I'd rather have Carr as the starting qb in 2007. His season thus far hasn't been dismal like some people on this board make it out to be, though he has been, without a question, been disappointing at times. But, he fits Kubiak's system, he just needs a solid, healthy o-line and a dependable rb. The lack of a running game this season hurt,it's a necessity the Denver-style offense. That and I'm not very impressed with the eligible qb's in the 07 draft.
 
I myself will give him 1 more year.
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If the Texans decide to keep him....then that's ALL I will give him, i.e., one more year. Personally I think it's best for us and for HIM to part ways.
 
wwffan99tx said:
... Maybe the system is finally sinking in. Maybe he can be better next year under Kubiak. After all this is the first year he has had ANY coaching. What'cha think?
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Give Carr a chance - to do what? What's the expectation of what he can do that hasn't been shown yet? Not to bash, just an honest question - similar to what was noted above, this is year 5 for him. To be the #1 pick of a franchise, regardless of non-coaching or having some - wouldn't we think he should show some kind of growth / improvement on his own, or is he still on the learning curve after 5 years in the NFL? Waiting for someone to show him the way, to "feed him"?

Unless something was shown in his college years that is drastically different than what we've seen in the NFL years, I'm thinking Carr is a "managable" QB that will not so much carry a team to win the game - good or bad.

Another interesting item is that quite a few posters compare Plummer to Carr under Kubiak's training - are they defintely the same "student"? Are the on the same level of wanting to learn, making the effort to learn, been through similar "rough times" pre their Kubiak-enrichment? Did Plummer need to get his footwork corrected, stop locking onto a reciever, not hear defensive footsteps even when they weren't close?

Again, not to bash - just questioning. I think Carr is a great person, but the question is about his football skills. Ditto Grid above though, if he does come back, more power to him - but the powers that be better have a plan B in the wings, just in case.
 
Everyone worries about Carr but it took what 5 years for someone to at least start to address our most glaring problem not OL, thats BS. This year was a start but far too few and no depth. :secret:

While we have made nice moves on DL, we just totally wrecked our Defensive Secondary because we didn't want to pay a few bucks to keep some veterans to help out. We have recievers that can't seem to manage to get open and when they do either Carr doesn't get them the ball or they drop it. Speaking for the "Franchise Keeper", but not complaining.:shades:
 
A4toZ said:
...Again, not to bash - just questioning. I think Carr is a great person, but the question is about his football skills. Ditto Grid above though, if he does come back, more power to him - but the powers that be better have a plan B in the wings, just in case.
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This past Sunday's win against the Colts perfectly illustrates the type of game Kubiak wants with his system. He wants a QB who can manage a game and not make mistakes.

The Colts defensive line is not top rate and our offensive line was able to perform admirably. We need to upgrade and improve out OL to the point where we can produce this level of running game against a better defense. If we do this, Carr will be under less pressure and will be adequate to run Kubiak's offense, cetainly, in the short term.

I'm predicting Carr will be a Texan next season and will go into training camp number one on the depth chart. However, for the first time, he will not be guaranteed a starting position opening day. He will have to earn/keep his starting position.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
If Carr plays another mistake free game vs. the Browns then the texans finished 3-2 in their last 5 games. I feel that would merit him a chance to COMPETE for the starting job in training camp. It's in everyone's interest for Carr to turn into a good QB with Kubiak's help but based on what I have seen for 5 years I don't think its very likely. If he wins against Cleveland and then plays well in preseason/training camp and shows Kubiak a bit more heart and dedication I think chances are he will be starting Week One for us. Do I think that is the way to go? No. But I think the Texans organization feels that is the way to go, Kubiak included.

If he performs poorly against the Browns, all bets are off....
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I don't see how anyone can ask for more than that.
 
Hervoyel said:
I don't see how anyone can ask for more than that.
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All I'm asking for. However, if they aren't going to support him...or as the keep hope alive crowd says , "elevated the team arond him to mask his defeciantcies"...I'm still scratching my head on that one since the higest ranking o-lineman we've ever drafted is at the 50 spot... then I hope they settle with him and let him go.
 
threetoedpete said:
All I'm asking for. However, if they aren't going to support him...or as the keep hope alive crowd says , "elevated the team arond him to mask his defeciantcies"...I'm still scratching my head on that one since the higest ranking o-lineman we've ever drafted is at the 50 spot... then I hope they settle with him and let him go.
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I hope it's not just wishful dreaming, but I really think we'll take an OL'man on the first day.

We'll be drafting no lower than #9 and, with a win Sunday, possibly as high as #7. Joe Thomas will probably not be available. If he is, I have mixed feelings about taking him. The Huddle Report's Drew Boylhart writes that he has an attitude problem with run blocking ( he is an outstanding pass blocker ). Kubiak's system is built around the running game, so I'm uncertain how good a fit Thomas would be for our team.

No other OL'man rates a top ten pick - unless Jake Long changes his mind and does come out. So I guess what I'm hoping is that we take an OLT with our second pick.
 
edo783 said:
That's kind of odd if true. Most O-line guys much prefere to run block. They get to go smack the other guy rather than being in more of a defensive type mode that pass blocking requires.
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It's just one scouts opinion and is why I have mixed thoughts on this player. It's quite possible it's simply a wrong analysis of observable play and that, instead, maybe Thomas is not fully recovered mentally and physically from his injury. The important thing, though, is that he thinks his run blocking is considerably below the level required for NFL play and will require considerable improvement.
 
I think Thomas will be picked within the first 4 picks. Detroit, Arizona, Cleveland, or Detroit would all have to consider taking him. This should allow us to have our pick between one of the defensive studs or perhaps an Adrian Petersen or God help us Calvin Johnson. I think the surer thing is going with Branch, Adams, Landry, or Hall (all defense) but with Petersen you get a high ceiling and another playmaker on offense. Running Kubiak's system I dont think we need to invest a pick on Petersen. Now, if Johnson fell to our lap I cant see any scenario where we could pass on that talent.

as for Carr (which is what this thread is about), as long as he finishes the season strong, I don't see any scenario where he wont be back to compete for the job. I do think his term as the anointed starter is over...he will have to compete to get the job. The coddling and over sensitivity towards his ego/feelings has gotten us nowhere. Take the silver spoon out his mouth and make him earn his job just like the rest of the guys.
 
Give Carr a chance. What a bunch of crap!

I'm still trying to figure out why we had to suffer through another season with him at the helm. There is absolutely no reason why this franchise couldn't watch the tapes of DC last year and see that he is not a starting QB. Again, this is crap!

The one fault I've seen with Kubes is he believed the hype. Just because he could bring back Jake Plummer from QB obscurity does not mean that you can fix every QB that comes down the pipe. Another pile of crap!

Carr should have been benched after the first Tennessee loss when Sage came in and out played him and yet he is still our starting QB. Again, this is crap!

I've forgotten, how many games has he gone without a TD pass? How many QB in the NFL could go as long as Carr did this season with out a TD pass and still have a starting position? ZERO. That's how many!! Crap!

Give Carr a chance?!? What a load of CRAP!!!!

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Second Honeymoon said:
If Carr plays another mistake free game vs. the Browns then the texans finished 3-2 in their last 5 games. I feel that would merit him a chance to COMPETE for the starting job in training camp. It's in everyone's interest for Carr to turn into a good QB with Kubiak's help but based on what I have seen for 5 years I don't think its very likely. If he wins against Cleveland and then plays well in preseason/training camp and shows Kubiak a bit more heart and dedication I think chances are he will be starting Week One for us. Do I think that is the way to go? No. But I think the Texans organization feels that is the way to go, Kubiak included.

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2nd, you disgrace the avatar!
Carr deserves a trade or other ticket out of town.

I can't believe after 5 years of this awful play people are STILL saying give him one more year.

You don't make this decision on 1 or 2 games, you make on FIVE YEARS OF DISMAL PERFORMANCES.

Boggles the mind.
 
Nighthawk said:
2nd, you disgrace the avatar!
Carr deserves a trade or other ticket out of town.

I can't believe after 5 years of this awful play people are STILL saying give him one more year.

You don't make this decision on 1 or 2 games, you make on FIVE YEARS OF DISMAL PERFORMANCES.

Boggles the mind.
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DISMAL PERFORMANCES.......nicely put.
 
ArlingtonTexan said:
As long as somebody does not attempt to sell me something else, I understand that you can win in the NFL with manager style QBs. This means that the FO should spend the off season developing a salty defense, up grading the OL, and finding another skill position player or two. Make the rest of the team better, and let it drag the QB position along. As long as we win.
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...we get a pay cut at QB,right?...and what about a guarantee that we get some more victories because--if we don't--there will just be more excuses for our 'manager style qb'
 
tsip said:
...we get a pay cut at QB,right?...and what about a guarantee that we get some more victories because--if we don't--there will just be more excuses for our 'manager style qb'
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From the check that McNair writes this year maybe...but the salary cap savings (the finances needed to get players) is not that great whether he is cut or traded and then add back in the cost of a new player, the texans will be on the salary hook for around the same amount either way. The exact numbers are floating around the board somewhere, i will edit this post when I find them.

If you did not catch my ealrier post, I believe that the Texans will have manager style QBing in 2007 whether its Carr, Sage, one of the spare veterans people keep throwing around, or a rookie.
 
Wharton said:
Give Carr a chance. What a bunch of crap!

I'm still trying to figure out why we had to suffer through another season with him at the helm. There is absolutely no reason why this franchise couldn't watch the tapes of DC last year and see that he is not a starting QB. Again, this is crap!

The one fault I've seen with Kubes is he believed the hype. Just because he could bring back Jake Plummer from QB obscurity does not mean that you can fix every QB that comes down the pipe. Another pile of crap!

Carr should have been benched after the first Tennessee loss when Sage came in and out played him and yet he is still our starting QB. Again, this is crap!

I've forgotten, how many games has he gone without a TD pass? How many QB in the NFL could go as long as Carr did this season with out a TD pass and still have a starting position? ZERO. That's how many!! Crap!

Give Carr a chance?!? What a load of CRAP!!!!

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I concur Sir!!!
 
I have no problem with the "game manager" blueprint. It has worked for a number of championship teams. What will really give me hope is if the Chicago Bears win the Super Bowl this year, because their QB is hurting them/helping them just like Carr and yet they are the winningest team in the NFC...
 
TexansFanatic said:
I have no problem with the "game manager" blueprint. It has worked for a number of championship teams. What will really give me hope is if the Chicago Bears win the Super Bowl this year, because their QB is hurting them/helping them just like Carr and yet they are the winningest team in the NFC...
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Works for me.
 
Carr saved his job after the Indy game IMO because it was the first time all season that we saw what Kubes wanted to do Offensively.

Pound the rock
Pass when you have to
Let the run protect your pass protection (0 Sacks)
No giveaways (0 fumbles, 0 INTS)

I think this game showed Kubes that he needs better OL
That we have the talent in the backfield to run the ball
Carr can manage the game in his system
The Texans can beat elite teams
Carr can play mistake free football
We need a better Defense, Peyton still had his way with us

I believe Kubes and Smith continue to go defense in the draft and bring in 1-3 quality FAs per year

But Carr will be back, and i don't think that is a bad thing considering we more pressing needs this team has
 
AggieTexanFan said:
Carr saved his job after the Indy game IMO because it was the first time all season that we saw what Kubes wanted to do Offensively.

Pound the rock
Pass when you have to
Let the run protect your pass protection (0 Sacks)
No giveaways (0 fumbles, 0 INTS)

I think this game showed Kubes that he needs better OL
That we have the talent in the backfield to run the ball
Carr can manage the game in his system
The Texans can beat elite teams
Carr can play mistake free football
We need a better Defense, Peyton still had his way with us

I believe Kubes and Smith continue to go defense in the draft and bring in 1-3 quality FAs per year

But Carr will be back, and i don't think that is a bad thing considering we more pressing needs this team has
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Nice post !!! I agree with everything you said 100 %!!!

Continue to build our D while finding the "right" players for our system at RB/OL. If Kubiak can get that whole zone blocking thing working consistently our offense will become more consistent. that's where it all starts ya know.
 
Wharton said:
Give Carr a chance. What a bunch of crap!

I'm still trying to figure out why we had to suffer through another season with him at the helm. There is absolutely no reason why this franchise couldn't watch the tapes of DC last year and see that he is not a starting QB. Again, this is crap!

The one fault I've seen with Kubes is he believed the hype. Just because he could bring back Jake Plummer from QB obscurity does not mean that you can fix every QB that comes down the pipe. Another pile of crap!

Carr should have been benched after the first Tennessee loss when Sage came in and out played him and yet he is still our starting QB. Again, this is crap!

I've forgotten, how many games has he gone without a TD pass? How many QB in the NFL could go as long as Carr did this season with out a TD pass and still have a starting position? ZERO. That's how many!! Crap!

Give Carr a chance?!? What a load of CRAP!!!!

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Pipe down and take a deep breath. They will win Sunday and go with Carr and Rosenfels in 2007 while they build up the rest of the team. Well deserved!
 
QB75 said:
Pipe down and take a deep breath. They will win Sunday and go with Carr and Rosenfels in 2007 while they build up the rest of the team. Well deserved!
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Yep, as usual, its someone else’s fault. Carr is such a good QB that it must be the rest of the teams fault.

I must be a mushroom, just put me in a warm, moist area and feed me crap.

whotex8 said:
Wow....I've never seen so much crap!
Is that your final answer............Crap?
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If you’ve got a better word, I’ll consider it. But I think Crap pretty much sums it up.

Can I get a dot sitting on the pot?
 
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