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David Carr's Future - From Pro Football Weekly

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I was thrilled with the team's win on Sunday and thought Carr played a good game. I don't want to be a killjoy, but here is an interesting piece from PFW, which cites a "source close to the club" as saying he is no better than a 50-50 chance to return to the Texans next year.

If he doesn't return, I wish him the best and hope he plays great on Sunday so his trade value increases. I trust Kubiak to make the right decision, and if he thinks the team will be better off with Plummer, that's fine with me.

http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm

"Is David Carr about to play his final game in Houston?

Carr was the Texans’ first-ever draft choice, and he has started all but a handful of the franchise’s games. But the team might be readying to move on without him, the way we hear it.

Texans head coach Gary Kubiak has said that Carr’s status will be evaluated in the offseason, and a source close to the club suggests that Carr is no better than a 50-50 shot to return for a sixth season in Houston. The 27-year-old quarterback is scheduled to make $5.25 million in salary in 2007 and $6 million in ’08, and he could draw interest from other teams looking to pick up a talented veteran who might just need a change of scenery."

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CowboysTexansFan said:
I was thrilled with the team's win on Sunday and thought Carr played a good game. I don't want to be a killjoy, but here is an interesting piece from PFW, which cites a "source close to the club" as saying he is no better than a 50-50 chance to return to the Texans next year.

If he doesn't return, I wish him the best and hope he plays great on Sunday so his trade value increases. I trust Kubiak to make the right decision, and if he thinks the team will be better off with Plummer, that's fine with me.

http://profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/default.htm

"Is David Carr about to play his final game in Houston?

Carr was the Texans’ first-ever draft choice, and he has started all but a handful of the franchise’s games. But the team might be readying to move on without him, the way we hear it.

Texans head coach Gary Kubiak has said that Carr’s status will be evaluated in the offseason, and a source close to the club suggests that Carr is no better than a 50-50 shot to return for a sixth season in Houston. The 27-year-old quarterback is scheduled to make $5.25 million in salary in 2007 and $6 million in ’08, and he could draw interest from other teams looking to pick up a talented veteran who might just need a change of scenery."

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"If the Texans look to replace Carr, expect Broncos QB Jake Plummer’s name to bounce about the rumor mill, given Kubiak’s work with Plummer as Denver’s offensive coordinator."

I just can't put any credence into an article that has both "IF" and "RUMOR MILL" in the same sentence....
 
Texans head coach Gary Kubiak has said that Carr’s status will be evaluated in the offseason, and a source close to the club suggests that Carr is no better than a 50-50 shot to return for a sixth season in Houston. The 27-year-old quarterback is scheduled to make $5.25 million in salary in 2007 and $6 million in ’08, and he could draw interest from other teams looking to pick up a talented veteran who might just need a change of scenery

Well I wonder who the source is...John McLame, John Lopez, or another know it all. A source close to the club, lol. The season isn't over yet and wow, we have someone saying that Carr has a 50% chance of coming back, well geez, that's not really telling anyone anything...The one thing about unnamed sources is that I don't believe it until I hear the HC or owner say it..until then, with 1 game yet to be played, I don't pay any attention..
 
Texan_Bill said:
"If the Texans look to replace Carr, expect Broncos QB Jake Plummer’s name to bounce about the rumor mill, given Kubiak’s work with Plummer as Denver’s offensive coordinator."

I just can't put any credence into an article that has both "IF" and "RUMOR MILL" in the same sentence....
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I see your point, but remember PFW is the leading trade publication of the NFL, and their access to credible sources within the NFL is second to none. This isn't a rumor that was published in ProFootballTalk.com, which I also enjoy. There is more substance to this, but I'm fully aware that this is all speculation at this point. Kubiak has said DC will be evaluated after the season is over, and I take him at his word.
 
I would like to think that everyone is in agreement that this is not news and we would also agree that we would like to see him perfom well in a win against the Browns.
 
Texan_Bill said:
"If the Texans look to replace Carr, expect Broncos QB Jake Plummer’s name to bounce about the rumor mill, given Kubiak’s work with Plummer as Denver’s offensive coordinator."

I just can't put any credence into an article that has both "IF" and "RUMOR MILL" in the same sentence....
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signed and agreed. keeping Carr and making him backup or at least compete for job is the best scenario for Texans next year. if sage sucks, Carr is back. If Sage is good, the Texans will be improved and win more and we have depth at QB in case of injury. Its a Win-Win situation. The only way I would accept Plummer is if he was willing to play for just about nothing besides incentives and HUGE playoff bonuses.

I don't buy this quoted article. Carr doesnt have a lot of trade value because teams will just wait for us to cut him and save their draft picks and players. That is how the NFL works nowadays. Don't pay for someone's discarded leftovers when you can just pick it out of the garbage for free.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
signed and agreed. keeping Carr and making him backup or at least compete for job is the best scenario for Texans next year. if sage sucks, Carr is back. If Sage is good, the Texans will be improved and win more and we have depth at QB in case of injury. Its a Win-Win situation. The only way I would accept Plummer is if he was willing to play for just about nothing besides incentives and HUGE playoff bonuses.

I don't buy this quoted article. Carr doesnt have a lot of trade value because teams will just wait for us to cut him and save their draft picks and players. That is how the NFL works nowadays. Don't pay for someone's discarded leftovers when you can just pick it out of the garbage for free.
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I have to disagree with you. Carr is way too expensive to keep as a backup. Either he starts or he should be let go. If Plummer comes, I think his price would be a lot lower than Carr's will be next year, and I agree his deal should be laden with incentives.

I don't think the article says Carr has a lot of trade value, it just says he could draw interest. Even Joey Harrington got Detroit a 5th or 6th round pick, so I would think Carr would be worth something more than that. If we could get a 3rd or 4th for him, I would take it (if the team decides to go in another direction).
 
CowboysTexansFan said:
I see your point, but remember PFW is the leading trade publication of the NFL, and their access to credible sources within the NFL is second to none. This isn't a rumor that was published in ProFootballTalk.com, which I also enjoy. There is more substance to this, but I'm fully aware that this is all speculation at this point. Kubiak has said DC will be evaluated after the season is over, and I take him at his word.
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Oh, I agree that it is one of the most credible publications out there, I just have reservations with "50/50 chance", "rumor mills", and "if's". I find that these type of articles (regardless of which publication) are journalistically lazy.

It's kind of like some politicians who say a lot of words, without ever telling you anything.
 
5 years as a Texan is enough for Carr.I don't care if he's only been in the current system for a year because he has looked mediocre at best.He might do better some where else but Plummer is a better fit for the Texans because his experience under Kubiak.I can't wait for Carr to slowly progress in the offense.
 
I don't think the article is saying anything that isn't already known....




I don't know if they will actually pull the trigger on a trade, but I fully expect them to entertain offers....
 
CowboysTexansFan said:
I have to disagree with you. Carr is way too expensive to keep as a backup. Either he starts or he should be let go. If Plummer comes, I think his price would be a lot lower than Carr's will be next year, and I agree his deal should be laden with incentives.

I don't think the article says Carr has a lot of trade value, it just says he could draw interest. Even Joey Harrington got Detroit a 5th or 6th round pick, so I would think Carr would be worth something more than that. If we could get a 3rd or 4th for him, I would take it (if the team decides to go in another direction).
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Carr is expensive whether we keep him or not. I just don't see Plummer as any better than Sage. Couple that with the fact that Sage is already signed and has shown promise when given a chance. Would Carr be an expensive backup? Hell yeah, he is but I just dont think its that important to get rid of when he is going to cost you $$ either way. Either way, whether Carr is kept as backup or trade, I will be satisfied that the team is moving forward with or without him. My only worry is that he is anointed starter for another year. That hasn't worked for 5 years so how can they delude themselves to thinking it will work this next year.

I get your point though and agree its not a great situation the Texans currently find themselves in. I just don't want to make moves that are essentially lateral yet higher in overall cost aka Release/Trade Carr and Sign Plummer.
 
Texan_Bill said:
"If the Texans look to replace Carr, expect Broncos QB Jake Plummer’s name to bounce about the rumor mill, given Kubiak’s work with Plummer as Denver’s offensive coordinator."

I just can't put any credence into an article that has both "IF" and "RUMOR MILL" in the same sentence....
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Yeah, well, this is looking like Richard Gere's ride on the hamster wheel. I hope we do not drop Carr and add Plummer.

I really, really, really hope we do not drop Carr and add Plummer.

Really, really.

Really.

C'mon, Kubiak. I know you've worked with Plummer, but let's try something different. At the very least, let's try to get someone the Broncos would want.

Maybe we should see what the Browns have available?
 
Well as for keeping or trading or releasing David, his contract would be extremely high in a back up role, but I think until the Texans build an O-line, OR get a QB that you know can take the hits day in and day out like David does, I would keep David for reasons other than his leadership or lack there of. Say what you want, and we all have, but there is not a QB in the NFL today that is as durable now than David. That has worth today in the league.

Could Sage handle the hits as often? Who knows for sure, and he might not put himself in the situations David has over the years to put himself in harms way. But unless I know for certain the O-line has been beefed up, David is as a sure thing when it comes to suiting up come Sundays. He would be a valuable asset to alot of teams that already had a #1 QB.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Carr is expensive whether we keep him or not. I just don't see Plummer as any better than Sage. Couple that with the fact that Sage is already signed and has shown promise when given a chance. Would Carr be an expensive backup? Hell yeah, he is but I just dont think its that important to get rid of when he is going to cost you $$ either way. Either way, whether Carr is kept as backup or trade, I will be satisfied that the team is moving forward with or without him. My only worry is that he is anointed starter for another year. That hasn't worked for 5 years so how can they delude themselves to thinking it will work this next year.

I get your point though and agree its not a great situation the Texans currently find themselves in. I just don't want to make moves that are essentially lateral yet higher in overall cost aka Release/Trade Carr and Sign Plummer.
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You're right, if we get rid of Carr, he's going to occupy a lot of cap space for a year or two. Just like Wade and Walker will occupy a lot of cap space in 2007. I also agree with you that if Plummer comes, he should not be handed the starting job. But I think Kubiak would make it clear to him that he has to earn the job over Sage. Plummer has already expressed a desire to be reunited with Kubiak, so I don't think not being handed the job on a silver platter would be a deal-killer if Plummer is released, as I think he will be.

If we keep Carr, I'm with you that he has to earn the job over Sage in training camp.
 
The better Carr plays against Cleveland, probably the better chance he gets traded, particularly if he has a lights out game.

Here me out here...

Regardless of what Carr does against Cleveland, I seriously doubt it will change Kubiak's mind with whatever he is feeling about Carr. Kubiak has worked with him long enough to know where he stands and one game isn't going to change it one way or the other.

So the higher Carr's value is, the easier it is to unload him and less of the bite considering his contract extension. I am saying maybe they can work a deal with another team.

However, I am sure McNair will stick his nose in the situation and not allow it if Carr plays a great game. McNair is so vested in Carr it is beyond ridiculous.

Also, if Carr does have a lights out game against Cleveland, moves on to somewhere else and plays like Brees has done later in his career, it could be even more egg on the Texans face if they continue to struggle and lose many games.

Keeping or getting rid of Carr is a risky endeavor from a face perspective considering how many chances they have given him. There is an arguement to just let the thing run it's course.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Quick.....


Tell me the last time Carr had a lights out game.....


tick....tick....tick.....
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That is what is scary. The Colts game is suppossed to trump 5 years of mediocrity? I think he played great against the backdrop of his entire career. Unfortunately we are not in a pay as you go league.
 
CowboysTexansFan said:
You're right, if we get rid of Carr, he's going to occupy a lot of cap space for a year or two. Just like Wade and Walker will occupy a lot of cap space in 2007. I also agree with you that if Plummer comes, he should not be handed the starting job. But I think Kubiak would make it clear to him that he has to earn the job over Sage. Plummer has already expressed a desire to be reunited with Kubiak, so I don't think not being handed the job on a silver platter would be a deal-killer if Plummer is released, as I think he will be.

If we keep Carr, I'm with you that he has to earn the job over Sage in training camp.
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Of course Plummer wants to be reunited with Kubiak. Kubiak made him look good, but unfortunately Kubiak can not put on a helmet and play for Plummer when it's choke time. Don't sell your ZZ Top's Greatest Hits album for $2 and buy the ZZ Top's Other Greatest Hits album for $10.

David is showing progress, and if Kubiak kicks him to the curb, I think he has little credibility in his future role as a mentor. We can have an alternative like Rosenfels and groom someone else like Porter while we keep Carr.
 
Bottom line: it's time to part ways. For the good of the Texans AND Carr. The team NEEDS a jump start from somebody. We passed on Bush and Young which would have given a spark at the very LEAST. So lets see what happens with THIS draft. I'm looking forward to it.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
That is what is scary. The Colts game is suppossed to trump 5 years of mediocrity? I think he played great against the backdrop of his entire career. Unfortunately we are not in a pay as you go league.
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If we can run the ball like we did against the Colts every week then Carr is our man....


But since we're not going to be playing the worst ranked run defense every week.....I'm a tad bit skeptical....

I give Carr props for those key throws he made to get us into field goal position at the end of the game....But IMO, he didn't have a stellar game....
 
My 2 cents are : I back the team 100%. IF we keep Carr great... if we dont fine too. All we have is guess work here. The only people that really know what they want to do with the team is the head coach and the owner and I dont think anyone can read minds. While Im disappionted with the performance for the season most people fail to mention that, while Carr may not be the long term answer to the problems here, we also have many many more holes to fill besides the QB. I would rather waste a draft spot on a non QB spot and have them be a bust then end up drafting a Heisman winner and getting jack!.... Besides... the draft is nothing but a crap shoot anyway. I say draft late (for QB) and fill other needs early and work with what you have.
 
jdog said:
Of course Plummer wants to be reunited with Kubiak. Kubiak made him look good, but unfortunately Kubiak can not put on a helmet and play for Plummer when it's choke time. Don't sell your ZZ Top's Greatest Hits album for $2 and buy the ZZ Top's Other Greatest Hits album for $10.

David is showing progress, and if Kubiak kicks him to the curb, I think he has little credibility in his future role as a mentor. We can have an alternative like Rosenfels and groom someone else like Porter while we keep Carr.
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The best analysis of the Carr/Plummer/Sage trifecta yet.

we have tried to turn 'muddy water into wine' for 5 years. Here is to trying to turn some 'Sage' into something that actually smokes.
 
hobie said:
...The one thing about unnamed sources is that I don't believe it until I hear the HC or owner say it..until then, with 1 game yet to be played, I don't pay any attention..
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I agree, and this is my stance. Nothing is changing until we hear it from the only person that really counts: Kubiak. Until then, it's 100% speculation.

xtruroyaltyx said:
If we can run the ball like we did against the Colts every week then Carr is our man....


But since we're not going to be playing the worst ranked run defense every week.....I'm a tad bit skeptical....

I give Carr props for those key throws he made to get us into field goal position at the end of the game....But IMO, he didn't have a stellar game....
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What if we have consistent running game and a defense that can actually protect leads? We're not that far off, IMO.

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson both have rings, so it's very possible to be a winning team without a playmaker QB. I honestly think this is the direction of the 2007 Texans until we hear otherwise.
 
like I said before, we will trade Carr for a 4th round pick....let plummer or rosenfels start the year...we'll draft a QB in rd 3

rd. 1 CB/S
rd. 2 OLB/OL
rd. 3 QB
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
If we can run the ball like we did against the Colts every week then Carr is our man....


But since we're not going to be playing the worst ranked run defense every week.....I'm a tad bit skeptical....

I give Carr props for those key throws he made to get us into field goal position at the end of the game....But IMO, he didn't have a stellar game....
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I agree
 
Double Barrel said:
I agree, and this is my stance. Nothing is changing until we hear it from the only person that really counts: Kubiak. Until then, it's 100% speculation.



What if we have consistent running game and a defense that can actually protect leads? We're not that far off, IMO.
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson both have rings, so it's very possible to be a winning team without a playmaker QB. I honestly think this is the direction of the 2007 Texans until we hear otherwise.
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I agree 100% with this. people on this board forget that the primary staple of the Denver system IS the the running game, & next is tough defense. even when they won their Superbowls, TD was the one who made that work not Elway. Not saying Elway wasn't a stud in his own right, but he knew what was what.

Plus, With the Drafting of Mario last year, I think Kubes & Co. have made it pretty evident what direction they'd like to go in with regard to this franchise & Qb just doesn't seem to be a priority; at least not yet. I also have no doubt that Kubes & Smith will work this franchise in the right direction, & i'd like to see our defense be developed 1st since defensive ball clubs tend to be able to compete a lot faster than offensively geared ball clubs.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
The best analysis of the Carr/Plummer/Sage trifecta yet.

we have tried to turn 'muddy water into wine' for 5 years. Here is to trying to turn some 'Sage' into something that actually smokes.
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Yeah, I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say, "David, you're not where I wanted you to be at this time. Sit on the bench and watch Sage."

I would like it better than, "David, it's best for everyone involved if we part ways and bring in Jake the Snake. After all, he had a few years to develop under my instruction before becoming a scrapped project. You only had one, and besides, you were never a Bronco."
 
Double Barrel said:
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson both have rings, so it's very possible to be a winning team without a playmaker QB.
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I think this is the direction we're headed towards as well...


But the Ravens, and Bucs both had established defenses with tons of talent on the defensive side of the ball....The Ravens had one of the top ranked defenses of all time, and I'm pretty sure both were atleast top three the year they won....

And on top of that I don't think Carr has had a year as good as those two the year they won it all....
 
Double Barrel said:
Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson both have rings, so it's very possible to be a winning team without a playmaker QB.
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Yeah, it's possible, but why would you CHOOSE to do it when playmakers are available.

It's like saying you can be a winning team without any run defense. May be true (Colts) but you wouldn't plan on doing it that way.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think this is the direction we're headed towards as well...


But the Ravens, and Bucs both had established defenses with tons of talent on the defensive side of the ball....The Ravens had one of the top ranked defenses of all time, and I'm pretty sure both were atleast top three the year they won....

And on top of that I don't think Carr has had a year as good as those two the year they won it all....
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Stats don't tell all, of course ....

2000 Trent Dilfer

GS - 8, Comp % - 59.3, Yds - 1502, YPA - 6.65, TD - 12, INT - 11, Fumbles - 8 (lost 2), rating 76.6, 20 carries for 75 yards, sacked 23 times

2002 Brad Johnson

GS - 13, Comp % - 62.3, Yds - 3049, YPA - 6.76, TD - 22, INT - 6, Fumbles - 8 (lost 2), rating 92.9, 13 carries for 30 yards, sacked 21 times

2004 David Carr

GS - 16, comp % - 61.2, Yds - 3531, YPA - 7.58, TD - 16, INT - 14, Fumbles - 10 (lost 2), rating - 83.5, 73 carries for 299 yards, sacked 49 times
 
jdog said:
Yeah, I think it would be perfectly acceptable to say, "David, you're not where I wanted you to be at this time. Sit on the bench and watch Sage."

I would like it better than, "David, it's best for everyone involved if we part ways and bring in Jake the Snake. After all, he had a few years to develop under my instruction before becoming a scrapped project. You only had one, and besides, you were never a Bronco."
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interesting way of putting it and painfully accurate.
 
Nighthawk said:
Yeah, it's possible, but why would you CHOOSE to do it when playmakers are available.
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To answer that question, my friend, you'd have to ask Coach Kubiak.

xtruroyaltyx said:
But the Ravens, and Bucs both had established defenses with tons of talent on the defensive side of the ball....The Ravens had one of the top ranked defenses of all time, and I'm pretty sure both were atleast top three the year they won....

And on top of that I don't think Carr has had a year as good as those two the year they won it all....
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We can only hope to have a defense worthy enough to merit mention with the Bucs & Raven championship defenses. That would be worth the price of admission alone, IMO.

As far as Carr...yeah, true that he hasn't had that year....yet (added for optimism's sake). I think the philosophy is to reduce the number of chances he gets to make mistakes with a solid running game. And with a [hopefully] dominant defense, we should be able to protect small leads (which further reduces our dependence on the QB position).

It's not a philosophy that I necessarily agree with or want on my team, but it is what it is. If this is our direction - and it looks like it at this point - then I just have to live with it and hope for the best.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I think this is the direction we're headed towards as well...


But the Ravens, and Bucs both had established defenses with tons of talent on the defensive side of the ball....The Ravens had one of the top ranked defenses of all time, and I'm pretty sure both were atleast top three the year they won....

And on top of that I don't think Carr has had a year as good as those two the year they won it all....
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you also have to consider that B.Johnson and Dilfer were not paid top QB money like Carr is. This allowed them more cap room to improve/maintain the rest of the team around the QB. And your totally accurate in stating that Carr hasn't had as good of a year as Brad or Trent did in their championship seasons. For crying out loud, BJohnson had some great numbers that year. 22 TDs 6 Ints. Those are Pro Bowl numbers and something that David Carr hasn't even remotely approached. Trent's year was a different story altogether. He wasn't asked to do much and he complied....and who is one of David's heroes? Mr. Dilfer....nuff said
 
Nighthawk said:
Yeah, it's possible, but why would you CHOOSE to do it when playmakers are available.

It's like saying you can be a winning team without any run defense. May be true (Colts) but you wouldn't plan on doing it that way.
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What playmakers are available? Carr can be a good QB with a good team around him. Since we don't have a good team around him, we need a QB that can step up and make plays despite the players around him.

Well, so do most other teams.

Jake "the Mistake" Plummer got benched when his team was 7-2 because he was playing very poorly. Put him on this team and he wouldn't do any better. Garcia did well on a pretty good 49ers team, but once he went to the Lions and Browns, he didn't do well at all. Now that he's on a good team, he's doing well again. If playmaking QBs were that available, they'd be snatched up by any number of other teams. I'm all for upgrading the QB position, but I can't point to any single available player that is a certain upgrade. In the draft, I can point to a few hopefuls, and I hope the team goes after one in the second or third round.
 
eriadoc said:
What playmakers are available? Carr can be a good QB with a good team around him. Since we don't have a good team around him, we need a QB that can step up and make plays despite the players around him.

Well, so do most other teams.

Jake "the Mistake" Plummer got benched when his team was 7-2 because he was playing very poorly. Put him on this team and he wouldn't do any better. Garcia did well on a pretty good 49ers team, but once he went to the Lions and Browns, he didn't do well at all. Now that he's on a good team, he's doing well again. If playmaking QBs were that available, they'd be snatched up by any number of other teams. I'm all for upgrading the QB position, but I can't point to any single available player that is a certain upgrade. In the draft, I can point to a few hopefuls, and I hope the team goes after one in the second or third round.
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Dream scenario would be to pickup Troy Smith in the 2nd round, get a 4th or 5th round pick for David, and let Sage compete with Smith for the starting job. Smith would be relatively low cost and risk v. reward and it would be a new beginning with another proven college winner.
 
old football fan said:
We need to trade Carr because if you just release him he will still count $4 million against the Texans cap figure.
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yup, if we cant trade him he needs to be our backup next year or at least have to compete for the starting QB slot in training camp. I am sick of all the dead cap space we spend on guys we get rid of right after signing new big deals (walker, smith, and wade come to mind)
 
Vinny said:
Same cap hit either way so it doesn't matter. All amortized bonus money is accelerated to the current year.
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Unless of course you do it after June 1, then you split it into two years, somehow that makes it easier on the stomach.

It will be interesting to see what the Browns do in respecting our newly found running game. If we can get that going and the Browns have to try and stop that, Carr certainly can have a very good day.
 
Vinny said:
Same cap hit either way so it doesn't matter. All amortized bonus money is accelerated to the current year.
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If you just release him you have his cap hit plus whatever player you sign cap hit. Gee can we get a 1.25 million QB that can be a starter and win us some games?
 
well you lose any cap space that you use to sign a QB to replace Carr whether it be high or low dollar. that just means less $ to spend on other positions in Free Agency. If they cut Carr and go economy-mode and go with a Van Pelt or Rattay as backup then it won't hurt too bad but if they go with a higher dollar QB to come in and compete for job like a Plummer or Garcia, then the extra expense starts to make signing a Clements, Hamlin, or Steinbach that much less likely. Just my opinion of course but its mostly logic.
 
SESupergenius said:
Unless of course you do it after June 1, then you split it into two years, somehow that makes it easier on the stomach.

It will be interesting to see what the Browns do in respecting our newly found running game. If we can get that going and the Browns have to try and stop that, Carr certainly can have a very good day.
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dude that avatar is very Boogie Nights...I will refrain from reading anything into that :)
 
SESupergenius said:
It will be interesting to see what the Browns do in respecting our newly found running game. If we can get that going and the Browns have to try and stop that, Carr certainly can have a very good day.
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The Colts have a historically bad run defense so I wouldn't count on as easy a ride...I think our success had more to do with their very bad run d more so than our newly found run offense.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15520948/

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The good folks at ESPN were kind enough recently to send a few copies of The ESPN Pro Football Encyclopedia to the CHFF cardboard-box world headquarters, condemning us in the process to at least another year without sunlight or the scent of a woman.

The encyclopedia includes statistical data for every team in NFL history - including the number of yards each team allowed per rush attempt.

We wanted to find the last time a defense surrendered 5.4 yards per rush attempt, so we started flipping through the encyclopedia. And we flipped through page … after page … after page … after page. We didn’t stop until the calendar read 1961.
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An editorial from the Indy Star

The Texans' drive lasted 15 plays, went 51 yards, included a pair of third-down conversions, a fourth-down conversion and ate up -- get this -- 9 minutes, 29 seconds.

We're not talking about the Jacksonville Jaguars and Maurice Jones-Drew here. We're talking about the Houston Texans, one of the most punchless teams in the league with a rebuilt offensive line and a running back, Ron Dayne, who hadn't gone for 100 yards since 2001.

It looks now like last Monday was the aberration, and this game, and the games they've played at Dallas and Tennessee and Jacksonville, are the rule. Since that 9-0 start, the Colts are 2-4, and have lost four straight road games. They could come out next Sunday and beat Miami 41-0 in the season finale, and none of the doubts that have bubbled to the surface this past month will dissipate.

At least when the Colts implode in the playoffs this time around, you can't say you weren't warned.
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http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061225/COLUMNISTS01/612250407/1100/SPORTS03
 
Vinny said:
The Colts have a historically bad run defense so I wouldn't count on as easy a ride...I think our success had more to do with their very bad run d more so than our newly found run offense.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15520948/
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Exactly!

I have said this several times. The blueprint to beat the Colts was established several games ago. Scoring two TDs in the first two positions completely screwed up the Colts gameplan for their defense. The Colts need to get to a lead early to stay in control of the game.

Even though the Colts win was a good one, let's not get too excited about the Texans until they do the same against Cleveland.
 
Vinny said:
The Colts have a historically bad run defense so I wouldn't count on as easy a ride...I think our success had more to do with their very bad run d more so than our newly found run offense.

Quote from noted source:

We wanted to find the last time a defense surrendered 5.4 yards per rush attempt, so we started flipping through the encyclopedia. And we flipped through page … after page … after page … after page. We didn’t stop until the calendar read 1961.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15520948/
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simply WOW
 
The Colts are still an 11-4 team. Even though they possess one of the NFL's worst rush defenses, they've still managed to win 11 other NFL games with the same defense.

Give our boys a little credit. They played a good game and took advantage of the opponent's weaknesses, which every team in the NFL tries to exploit week in/week out.

I kinda' hope Indy wins it all this year, because then it's a mute point. ;)
 
2003 - Games:11 Rating: 91.2 Record: 10-6

2004 - Games:16 Rating: 84.5 Record: 10-6

2005 - Games:16 Rating: 90.2 Record: 13-3

He works well with Kubiak, he knows the system, and he has a winning record with Kubiak. What else do you want? (Besides VY which you can't have so support the Texans if you are a fan.)

I think he is the best fit next year IF we trade Carr. He probably isn't a long term fix, but he could fill in while we groom someone.

Before you give everyone else on the Broncos credit for the wins, remember you can't have it both ways. You can't have the team being responsible in Denver, but Carr being responsible for the Texans. The two things, QB and team, must go together to win.

I don't know about you, but I'd take the above record for the next three years.
 
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