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Just saw it. They had a reporter on who said we could part ways with Carr this offseason and bring in Jake Plummer.
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JP is old. We are a young team, we need young and fresh players. Unless of course JP is willing to come in knowing he's just a temporary fix til' Coach gets his hand picked man behind center(Kolb??)Just saw it. They had a reporter on who said we could part ways with Carr this offseason and bring in Jake Plummer.
Plummer, on this team, will not put up stats like he has on his best years. If anything, "The Mistake" part of his nickname would only become more commonplace. I don't care if we lose Carr, but I want no part of Plummer.Carr could only dream of putting up #'s like Plummer. If Carr was in Denver, they would have ran him outta town by now.
Signed,Makes sense. Plummer's been to the playoffs more than Carr has.
If you play .500 ball you have a shot at the playoffs.Signed,
Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Kyle Orton, and many other QBs who have ridden the coattails of solid teams.
I'm not a fan of Plummer either....He's being ran out of Denver using the same system we are using here. . . What is going to be different here that wasn't in Denver?
Yeah, and? This team has never played .500 ball. I'm just pointing out that suggesting Plummer has been to the playoffs is somewhat of a joke, IMO. The Denver Broncos went to the playoffs and Plummer happened to be the QB for that team.If you play .500 ball you have a shot at the playoffs.
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common knowledge
I think he should open it up this week not in training camp.The Texans are not going any place this year see what the other guys can do.This has always been the problem never trying someone else at QB. Theres not alot of difference in 4 & 12 record or a 5 & 11.At the very least, I think the Texans should bring in Jake Plummer to give some real competition to David Carr. Kubiak should open up spring drills or training camp and say "The QB race is wide open". It will be the first time Carr wasn't handed the QB position and I'd be interested to see how he does.
Vinny, honestly what do you think the team should do?If you play .500 ball you have a shot at the playoffs.
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Cutler "happens" to be their QB now and their chances for the playoffs don't seem so good anymore.Yeah, and? This team has never played .500 ball. I'm just pointing out that suggesting Plummer has been to the playoffs is somewhat of a joke, IMO. The Denver Broncos went to the playoffs and Plummer happened to be the QB for that team.
I think Plummer would be good enough to hold things down in Houston while we groom a replacement. We don't need Joe Montana as our stop-gap QB. All we need is a guy that is capable of starting.This isn't a commentary on Carr at all. I just don't see Plummer as an upgrade. They are both bad options.
The Denver offense is about the same now with Cutler as it was with Plummer. The difference is the defense is giving up tons more points than they were the first half of the year. If Shanahan thought Plummer could bridge that gap, he'd be in there. That Shanahan went to a rookie QB in the middle of a potential playoff run says more to me about Plummer than Cutler. JMO, of course. There are some available QBs I'd like to see come here, but Plummer's not on my list. We can agree to disagree on that point.Cutler "happens" to be their QB now and their chances for the playoffs don't seem so good anymore.
JMO, of course. There are some available QBs I'd like to see come here, but Plummer's not on my list. We can agree to disagree on that point.
I've given my opinion for wanting to part with Carr last year and not pick up his option and "starting over" with Vince Young...I was told by many here that we wanted to win "right now" so it wasn't a good idea.....most of you guys know where I stand on this....you guys have certainly let me know what you have thought about my opinion.Vinny, honestly what do you think the team should do?
But what about QB? As much as I would like to be Marty Mcfly and call Doc Brown and go back in time in a Delorean, that doesn't seem too likely (although I am looking into it). So, what do we do at the QB spot going forward?I've given my opinion for wanting to part with Carr last year and not pick up his option and "starting over" with Vince Young...I was told by many here that we wanted to win "right now" so it wasn't a good idea.....most of you guys know where I stand on this....you guys have certainly let me know what you have thought about my opinion.
What should the team do? Play this out and get everyone on film in various down and distance situations for your evaluations. I'd try to sign a veteran CB, use the first pick on a projected starting CB, move Dunta to FS, and that fixes the secondary as CC Brown backs up both Earl and Robinson. This won't happen...but it sounds good on paper. We need a sam linebacker with more speed somewhere. Travis Johnson? the sad but true story of the wrong Johnson....we need another DT somewhere. We still need an elite edge rusher. No, Mario Williams is not a speed/edge rusher, but will make an excellent SDE long term. I think we need a Center and a Tackle. We need a feature back, and yeah, we are like two drafts away from being a credible consistent playoff type team - minimum...could be a lot longer than that if they don't draft as well in the weaker drafts coming up. Last year was a very strong draft year for the entire NFL. This year isn't nearly as strong a class, so you are less likely to strike draft gold.
I have thought about Damon Huard. Isn't he a FA? I was fairly impressed with him. I don't think he can drag his team to wins like Vince, but I think he can be that 2-3 year guy that allows us to not reach for a QB, and who knows, maybe he continues to develop. The other guy I really like is Matt Schaub, but I don't see the Falcons letting him go with Vick on the team.We just passed on the best QB class in since like 1983. Donno....It's not a fun thought.
I think it's Sage or Plummer until we find the savior. Either way Kubiak is writing on the wall with 4 foot letters for a QB change.I have thought about Damon Huard. Isn't he a FA? I was fairly impressed with him. I don't think he can drag his team to wins like Vince, but I think he can be that 2-3 year guy that allows us to not reach for a QB, and who knows, maybe he continues to develop. The other guy I really like is Matt Schaub, but I don't see the Falcons letting him go with Vick on the team.
We just passed on the best QB class in since like 1983. Donno....It's not a fun thought.
So based on this you are saying that a Vince Young this year would've allowed us to take care of the smaller things next year. I see that.I've given my opinion for wanting to part with Carr last year and not pick up his option and "starting over" with Vince Young...I was told by many here that we wanted to win "right now" so it wasn't a good idea.....most of you guys know where I stand on this....you guys have certainly let me know what you have thought about my opinion.
What should the team do? Play this out and get everyone on film in various down and distance situations for your evaluations. I'd try to sign a veteran CB, use the first pick on a projected starting CB, move Dunta to FS, and that fixes the secondary as CC Brown backs up both Earl and Robinson. This won't happen...but it sounds good on paper. We need a sam linebacker with more speed somewhere. Travis Johnson? the sad but true story of the wrong Johnson....we need another DT somewhere. We still need an elite edge rusher. No, Mario Williams is not a speed/edge rusher, but will make an excellent SDE long term. I think we need a Center and a Tackle. We need a feature back, and yeah, we are like two drafts away from being a credible consistent playoff type team - minimum...could be a lot longer than that if they don't draft as well in the weaker drafts coming up. Last year was a very strong draft year for the entire NFL. This year isn't nearly as strong a class, so you are less likely to strike draft gold.
We already have him. Just wears a different uniform.I thought I heard a rumor about Chris Simms potentially being available next year.
Anyone else hear this? And if that's the case, what do you think of bringing him in?
Did he ever take the Cardinals to the playoffs?Makes sense. Plummer's been to the playoffs more than Carr has.