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Where are all the excuses now for David and the Texans

Second Honeymoon

Second Honeymoon

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You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
 
I know it's just an IF.....

But what IF we'd have won the toss...... Mathis returns it to the Tennesse 30, & Kris Brown kicked a 47 yrd FG, and we won the game??

Don't get me wrong I was all for drafting Vince Young. But we played a good game, with or without David. True, it would be looked on as a mistake, if we are looking for a QB after next season.......... I seriously doubt we'll be looking for a QB this offseason.

I'd bet that Kubiak will have his Denver running game in Houston before he gives up on David....... & that may very well take three years.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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I think you would feel so much better if you just found a new team to be part of. There is no amount of anything here that you will ever be satisfied with no matter what happens. So take your negativity somewhere else.

I would be willing to bet you are like this in almost everything you do.

It's a choice and you choose to be negative. Do you go to bed angry with yourself every night??? :hides: LOL

P.S. Carr had a great game, I love Carr. Carr is wonderful. Carr is better than Vince,, Carr is going to the Super Bowl, Carr, Carr, Carr, I love Carr. :stirpot:
 
"It's a choice and you choose to be negative. Do you go to bed angry with yourself every night??? LOL"

It wasn't our choice. The negative choice was made by our brain trust. If you are not mad, you are not an eductaed fan.
 
thunderkyss said:
I know it's just an IF.....

But what IF we'd have won the toss...... Mathis returns it to the Tennesse 30, & Kris Brown kicked a 47 yrd FG, and we won the game??

Don't get me wrong I was all for drafting Vince Young. But we played a good game, with or without David. True, it would be looked on as a mistake, if we are looking for a QB after next season.......... I seriously doubt we'll be looking for a QB this offseason.

I'd bet that Kubiak will have his Denver running game in Houston before he gives up on David....... & that may very well take three years.
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I was actually thinking about this during the game....


I wasn't too pleased with Carr's play and I was going to rip him regardless of whether we lost or not....
 
bayshorebevo said:
"It's a choice and you choose to be negative. Do you go to bed angry with yourself every night??? LOL"

It wasn't our choice. The negative choice was made by our brain trust. If you are not mad, you are not an eductaed fan.
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I'm pretty educated. I graduated from UT. Hmn.......Go figure.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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Well, that seems to be quite a leap to take so early in the game but I generally agree with a lot of the rest of your post. Although, I have no dog in the hater versus apologist fight. Neither group is being completely objective about the situation, quite frankly.
 
Texanfan4ever said:
I think you would feel so much better if you just found a new team to be part of. There is no amount of anything here that you will ever be satisfied with no matter what happens. So take your negativity somewhere else.
:stirpot:
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Do you feel the same about the Denver fans who booed Jake?? or the Cowgurls who booed Drew?? Or the Arizona fans who booed Warner??

some people understand that some parts of the team just don't fit.

Another thing to think about...... There are a lot of fans wanting a QB change in Chicago, even though they have the #1 team in the NFC.. they know that while you can win a Superbowl in spite of your QB... odds are against it. & only by having a QB can you even think about becoming a Dynasty.... unlike the Bucs who won't be in the playoffs this year, and only made last years playoffs because the NFC is week. Or the Ravens who haven't sniffed an AFC championship game, much less the Superbowl in 5 years.

Also, while Miami & Oakland both have Defenses that would rival the Bears.... they aren't talked about very much, because of poor play from the offensive side of the ball.
 
They are who we thought they were.

Bob McNair said when Kubiak was drafted that David Carr was a quarterback that could take you to the Super Bowl.

Gary Kubiak didn't agree with that. He said that this was too much to put on David Carr, but that he felt he had the tools to be a quarterback on a Super Bowl team.

I do not know what Vince Young can ultimately do. He is not like anyone who has come before him. There is no blueprint. He keeps freaking Jeff Fisher out for pete's sake, and Fisher has seen everything.
 
thunderkyss said:
Do you feel the same about the Denver fans who booed Jake?? or the Cowgurls who booed Drew?? Or the Arizona fans who booed Warner??

some people understand that some parts of the team just don't fit.

Another thing to think about...... There are a lot of fans wanting a QB change in Chicago, even though they have the #1 team in the NFC.. they know that while you can win a Superbowl in spite of your QB... odds are against it. & only by having a QB can you even think about becoming a Dynasty.... unlike the Bucs who won't be in the playoffs this year, and only made last years playoffs because the NFC is week. Or the Ravens who haven't sniffed an AFC championship game, much less the Superbowl in 5 years.

Also, while Miami & Oakland both have Defenses that would rival the Bears.... they aren't talked about very much, because of poor play from the offensive side of the ball.
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My point was that to throw the whole organization, coaches, players, everyone into the same pot is silly. And at this point there is nothing that can be done, but to keep going. We didn't draft Vince, we kept David, so that is what the organization has to deal with right now.

We have some problems, and I'm tired of losing too, so I'm all for whatever we need to do to change it, but I personally think that McNair and Kubiak will figure it out.
 
You want an excuse?

We lost a game that came down to a coin toss, and everyone is bitter that we ruined their April mock drafts.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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OK, you win, The Texans Suck... Maybe we should all start rooting for the Titans... I think that is your point, Right?

It's no new news that there are players on other teams who are playing better than the ones on the Texans team. How is that getting punked.

Thats just life...

your post sounds like you have the maturity level of a junior high school student.

You should get over it and grow up...
 
Texans_Chick said:
They are who we thought they were.

Bob McNair said when Kubiak was drafted that David Carr was a quarterback that could take you to the Super Bowl.

Gary Kubiak didn't agree with that. He said that this was too much to put on David Carr, but that he felt he had the tools to be a quarterback on a Super Bowl team.

I do not know what Vince Young can ultimately do. He is not like anyone who has come before him. There is no blueprint. He keeps freaking Jeff Fisher out for pete's sake, and Fisher has seen everything.
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Well, I for one blame the "consultant" Dan Reeves.... Reeves was the genesis behind the misguided notion that "David Carr can win in the NFL."

David Carr CAN'T WIN in Houston.. Why:

1. He is mentally "toast." He has been hit so much he has no confidence in his offensive line.. or himself.

2. He lacks the proper attitude. He doesn't do anything original. He does what others tell him to do, instead of exercising leadership and setting an example. Personally, I don't think he cares anymore. He is just here for a paycheck.

3. His coaching here stinks. Palmer was horrible. His replacements are not much better.

4. His offensive line is/was and shall ever be, horrible.

Maybe David can succeed somewhere else.. Detroit, Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Pittsburg.... but his days in Houston are numbered.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him
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easy... don't bash Mario because of the FO.
Mario is gonna be a fine player, especially when he gets his wheels at 100%.
But yes... you're right, We shoulda took Vince or Bush.
 
First of all....how did Texans fans get "punked" because Vince Young wasnt even really part of the Final Draft decision...it was basically down to Reggie Bush and Mario Williams.... Does Demeco "punk" every team in the league when we beat them because they all passed on him? Will the Saints get "punked" if the Titans beat them some day down the road?

Sure Vince Young is from Houston and he is/will be a good player in this league...but Gary Kubiak thought/thinks that David Carr has all the tools to be an effective QB in his system...and obviously thought that the pick could be used to help out the team in another way...You can say that these were bad decisions but you cant say that Vince Punked anyone...he just played a good game...
 
There is no more excuses on part of the Texans or David Carr. Carr's done in Houston. He didn't loose yesterday's game but he didn't win it either. Over throwing, underthrowing, crossing the line of scrimmage twice, shaky pocket presence, no passes over the middle, no deep passes, no leadership in the huddle, laughing it up in the sidelines, etc. He's not a bad player but he's not the guy who's going to take us to where we all want to go. VY was great and we're going to have to face up to the challenge for the next decade or so.
 
There are no more excuses for Carr. Two passes all day of 10+ yards. Either he freaks out or the coaches don't trust him. I no longer buy into the o-line excuse. Most teams don't have an All-pro line and they somehow find ways to get the ball down field. I know 3/5 of the line is new, more excuses. The Saints lines were considered weak prior to the season, can anyone name a Saint lineman. Bottom line - David just isn't a very good QB.

I guess Nawzer and I were typing at the same time, sorry for the redundancy.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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Amen, its about time someone stands up and say it with me! I totally agree. I believe this franchise should have been rebuilt around a QB like VY instead of renewing Carr's contract for some HEB coupons. But ask yourselves this question. If you were passionate and had the love/ money for the business of a football team. Why would pass up all the profit, revenue, and sold-out VIP seats from Austin to Houston just to draft an OK defensive lineman that can only get a solid handicap/ mercy sack?? Conspiracy? Yeah...Politics?...Oh Yeah...Wouldn't it be a GREAT business decision to make your money back on a USED CARR that failed you many times.
May this question should be a new post...
 
The guy with the "Free Coffee when texans win"


that is hilarious. They have a wonderful time only giving free coffee 2-4 times a year.:stirpot:
 
as for me bashing Mario that is hogwash. I just said he doesnt look like a probowler and regretfully probably will never go to one. a bit assumptious? possibly, but the bottom line is we passed on 2 guys who seem to already be making their case for football immortality.

more importantly, both guys went to teams that WERE HORRIBLE. those teams are now both heading in the right direction, with one (the saints) being a legitimate Super Bowl contender. but winning isnt important to some of you obviously. the only thing that matters to stupid homer fan is backing their golden boy come hell or high water and making excuse after stupid freaking excuse.

but whatever, keep the stupid excuses coming and stay the course with Carr. We have seen what that garbage has gotten us. 5 years of embarassments

screw it, just sign Carr to a lifetime contract and make his dad the coach. he isnt the problem, right? stupid idiots....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I was actually thinking about this during the game....


I wasn't too pleased with Carr's play and I was going to rip him regardless of whether we lost or not....
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That's funny, I felt the same way about Vince Young. He missed a golden oppourtunity in regulation win this thing with under 2 minutes left and couldn't get it done against one of the leagues worst defenses. Now granted he made the game winning play so I can't say much to that, it is what it is, one great play that was set up by an fantastic return and gambling defense.

David Carr had his opportunity as well to win the game, and didn't capitalize on it, but did tie the game up in a pressure situation.
 
SESupergenius said:
That's funny, I felt the same way about Vince Young. He missed a golden oppourtunity in regulation win this thing with under 2 minutes left and couldn't get it done against one of the leagues worst defenses. Now granted he made the game winning play so I can't say much to that, it is what it is, one great play that was set up by an fantastic return and gambling defense.

David Carr had his opportunity as well to win the game, and didn't capitalize on it, but did tie the game up in a pressure situation.
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The only problem with your theory is that VY is a rookie with poor mechanics, low wunderlich, and oh yeah....he can't take snaps from under center....

If you want to compare a 5 year vet. to a rookie then go ahead....
 
Specnatz said:
When are you going to learn it is a team sport. You seriously act like Carr did not date you or something and you hold a crudge.

Oh and by saying it is not all Carr's fault and placing equal blame on the entire team is not being a homer it is called not being biast towards the one person you hate. anyone who disagrees with you is a homer and is talking out there arse? You should get Negative Reps for name calling but whatever your not worth it.

By the way a new freakin QB does not fix the bad tackling on the defense and the poor blocking on offense. It might help in some areas but not in these two specific areas. Stating fact is not making excuses. One day you will know the difference, but it is not this day.
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I wonder if any of the people who keep spouting off with this, "It's a team game" stuff ever watch anything but Texans' games.

Surely they'd see that the QB is more than just another player on the team.

Heck, watching Vince Young yesterday, when your reciever drops two easily catchable balls..... no problem.... chunk it out to him again....

Get sacked... no biggie, you had to throw the ball 10 yards... just throw it 9 yards farther......

but I guarantee you this.... next time David gets sacked....next week, the week after, the week after that. If we aren't punting on 4th down, it'll be a run play out of the I.... bet.
 
If we had a QB who could make plays, the defense would have been a non-issue IMO....

The defense intercepted the ball in Titan territory and Carr didn't do enough to put it into the endzone which would have given us the victory...Instead we had to settle for the field goal....This was the same drive that he had the illegal forward pass penalty....

Carr is a liability at this point.
 
I think the entire franchise and fan base knows that Carr's extension was a mistake and that we couldn't have gone wrong with either Bush or Vince. Anyone not fessing up to it at this point is jaded to the point where what they have to say is meaningless. The only hope is that we can use our current tools + future drafts to somehow find a winning formula.
 
Texans_Chick said:
They are who we thought they were.

Bob McNair said when Kubiak was drafted that David Carr was a quarterback that could take you to the Super Bowl.

Gary Kubiak didn't agree with that. He said that this was too much to put on David Carr, but that he felt he had the tools to be a quarterback on a Super Bowl team.

I do not know what Vince Young can ultimately do. He is not like anyone who has come before him. There is no blueprint. He keeps freaking Jeff Fisher out for pete's sake, and Fisher has seen everything.
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I disagree I have seen QB's like VY their names are Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana and Elway.
They had that ability to win the big games their teamates really thought no game was out of reach as long as they had their QB under center.
VY imposes his will on the other teams and yes I said this before the draft!
Jeff Fisher looks about 10 years younger now than when the season started.

:hides:
 
axman40 said:
I disagree I have seen QB's like VY their names are Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana and Elway.
They had that ability to win the big games their teamates really thought no game was out of reach as long as they had their QB under center.
VY imposes his will on the other teams and yes I said this before the draft!
Jeff Fisher looks about 10 years younger now than when the season started.
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Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana and Elway are all a bit more celebral than Vince. Bradshaw, Staubach, Elway, Montana knew the strategy aspects of the game inside out and backwards. They could read defenses and pick them apart all without any help from an offensive coordinator.

You have to admit Vince wins with his athletic ability. Vince isn't a rocket scientist. But you are right, Vince Young is a leader.

Maybe that explains Kubiak... with Elway at QB, any offensive coordinator looks good.
 
axman40 said:
I disagree I have seen QB's like VY their names are Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana and Elway.
They had that ability to win the big games their teamates really thought no game was out of reach as long as they had their QB under center.
VY imposes his will on the other teams and yes I said this before the draft!
Jeff Fisher looks about 10 years younger now than when the season started.

:hides:
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What are you disagreeing with? Kubiak said it is too much to ask David Carr to take them to the Super Bowl. He didn't say that no quarterback is capable of doing that.
 
texaslifter said:
I think the entire franchise and fan base knows that Carr's extension was a mistake and that we couldn't have gone wrong with either Bush or Vince. Anyone not fessing up to it at this point is jaded to the point where what they have to say is meaningless. The only hope is that we can use our current tools + future drafts to somehow find a winning formula.
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We also need to get over all the could'a - should'a - would'a's and move on. It's easy enough to go back and pick Julius Peppers over David Carr, Anyone over Travis Johnson, Bush or Young over Mario Williams, etc. but it's not gonna make it happen.

Let the talking heads talk and the pundits pontificate. We have a team to rebuild. We need to learn from our mistakes and move on.
 
bad said:
We also need to get over all the could'a - should'a - would'a's and move on. It's easy enough to go back and pick Julius Peppers over David Carr, Anyone over Travis Johnson, Bush or Young over Mario Williams, etc. but it's not gonna make it happen.

Let the talking heads talk and the pundits pontificate. We have a team to rebuild. We need to learn from our mistakes and move on.
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You have to look forward as you say, this year was a good draft and those guys will only get better.
 
Hind sight is 20/20...

For anyone to say that takin VY in the draft would have been a great choice, really must have their head in the sand. Who's to say that Vinnie would not have the same probs as being rushed and sacked that DC isn't seeing every Sunday? Granted, he may be able to scramble a little better than Carr and maybe come up with a few big plays...but can anyone say this for certain?

It was mentioned earlier, that, perhaps Kubes was a good O-coordinator because of Elway...Elway made him what he is today. I doubt anyone who agrees with that statement was a Bronco fan at that time. I was, and I can say from first hand experience, we all hated Elway because he sucked in the beginning. The other thing I'd like to point out is look at Denver's offense now, without Kubes....'Nuff said...

With regards to DC...well, I am a bit disappointed to say the least. One would think, at least some improvement would be shown...at least in the last 2 games. Unfortunately, I have still not seen this. Granted, it appears that the turnovers have dropped, but it appears that nothing has improved in his play. Perhaps this is the play calling coming from the sidelines, perhaps its DC's lack of confidence, perhaps its the fact that the pocket collapses before a play can develop (i.e. the deep routes), or maybe a combination of all three. Unfortunately, I don't know this and can only hope, at this time, that we see some positive improvements before the season's end....
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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Yeah dude, Carr single handly lost this WHOLE game on his own...I seemed to remember our defense on the field when Young made that TD, not Carr...
 
ridn4_8 said:
Hind sight is 20/20...

For anyone to say that takin VY in the draft would have been a great choice, really must have their head in the sand. Who's to say that Vinnie would not have the same probs as being rushed and sacked that DC isn't seeing every Sunday? Granted, he may be able to scramble a little better than Carr and maybe come up with a few big plays...but can anyone say this for certain?

I'd say that given the fact that Vince's O Line is really no better than David's that yes, he would do a better job avoiding sacks.
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bad said:
We also need to get over all the could'a - should'a - would'a's and move on. It's easy enough to go back and pick Julius Peppers over David Carr, Anyone over Travis Johnson, Bush or Young over Mario Williams, etc. but it's not gonna make it happen.

Let the talking heads talk and the pundits pontificate. We have a team to rebuild. We need to learn from our mistakes and move on.
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This isn't shoulda woulda coulda..... this is I told you so.....

All the experts that said it would be 4 years before Vince would be able to have an impact on a game.. the experts who said vince can't take a snap from under center... the experts who said Vince lacks accuracy to make the throws he needs to make to be successful in the NFL..... the experts who said he can't run like that in the NFL.... the experts who said Vince can't carry a team.....

Not to mention a nyah... take that. to all the guys who laughed at the 6 wonderlich.... or about forgetting a suit.... or missing a flight.... or the guys who have a problem with the way he talks.....

This is a, "we'd be winning games, and selling out the stadium, with real butts in the seats had we drafted Vince Young"... "sportscenter would be talking about how smart the Texans are for passing on Reggie" had we drafted Vince Young......

you guys were soooo wrong about Vince, and what he can do in the NFL. It would be nice if more of you guys would say so.

But I'll admit you were right about one thing.

The fans in Houston think it is way too long to wait 4 years (or longer) for their QB to develop.
 
Texans_Chick said:
What are you disagreeing with? Kubiak said it is too much to ask David Carr to take them to the Super Bowl. He didn't say that no quarterback is capable of doing that.
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In your prior post you stated:
He is not like anyone who has come before him.
I am saying we have seen other QB's like VY that is all .
:fans:
 
Koolaid Time said:
Maybe David can succeed somewhere else.. Detroit, Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Pittsburg.... but his days in Houston are numbered.
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Ignoring for a second you put succeed and Detroit in the same sentence
We don't want him. We already had a QB who was scared to death of throwing deep.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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That Photo is a classic - I think you should frame it and send it to Boob McNair. Vince back in his house doing his thing!
 
Koolaid Time said:
Bradshaw, Staubach, Montana and Elway are all a bit more celebral than Vince. Bradshaw, Staubach, Elway, Montana knew the strategy aspects of the game inside out and backwards. They could read defenses and pick them apart all without any help from an offensive coordinator.

You have to admit Vince wins with his athletic ability. Vince isn't a rocket scientist. But you are right, Vince Young is a leader.

Maybe that explains Kubiak... with Elway at QB, any offensive coordinator looks good.
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Translation: Vince is black thus he is not as smart as the white QBs given in my example.

Nice stealth racism hiding behind objectivity.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
You homers have been talking out of your arse all year long and you just got punked. Where are you now? What is the new Excuse Of The Week? Who are you blaming this week for Carr's unsatisfactory play and another huge and historic Texans loss?

Where are you at? Have you finally woken up to reality? Are you too busy trying to spin this into a positive or excuse? As long as we got ignorant homer fans, a clueless owner, and a very poor head coach in Kubiak we have a recipe for complete embarasssment.

When the loser organization drafted Mario they said it was to beat Peyton Manning. Well last time I checked, Vince has beaten Peyton almost twice already and David is 0-9 v. him. Mario sadly will probably never be an All-Pro and we passed on 2 possible Hall Of Famers to get him....congrats apologists, you have risen the bar to a new level....now come out and take your medicine and come out of hiding...
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People like you make me sick. Where were you when David was playing extremely well and leading the league in passer rating? Over in the corner saying "passer ratings don't matter!"?

Yeah...whatever. Call yourself a fan all you want but you have nothing but hatred for this franchise and will never be a true fan. Go root for the Titans and the Saints and leave us true fans alone. :texan:


And just as an FYI...Drew Brees is the reason that the Saints have turned around. Reggie Bush has had 2 good games this season.
 
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