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Vince Young is better than Carr right now.

Nighthawk

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The chumps in the Houston front office who chose Mario when they could have selected Vince should be weeping right now. Young, who has what, 6 or 8 games under his belt, is twice the QB Carr, with 5 years under his belt, is. Young just wants to win, and contributes to that at every turn. Carr is a dopey robot with a big are and ZERO feel for the game.


So here we sit with the world's worst QB (not to mention O line etc) when we could have remade the team around Young. It was a dreadful choice no matter what the reason was. It was pathetic, dumb, short-sighted . . . fill in the blank yourself.

And now, having made this gigantic mistake of letting Young go, they stick with this bozo loser Carr for yet another year. Who would want to watch that game they played today? I don't care who won, it was so ugly that I turned it off. Who wants a team like that?

Nobody.
 
Texans will have a nice D soon...............but that still wont stop VY. Ask any Colts fan. They put huge pressure on him today. If McNair was back there he'd have been sacked 6 or 7 times.................VY was amazing. He got 6 first downs on third downs to sustain drives. The Colts only had the ball for 11 minutes the whole second half.
 
Nighthawk said:
The chumps in the Houston front office who chose Mario when they could have selected Vince should be weeping right now. Young, who has what, 6 or 8 games under his belt, is twice the QB Carr, with 5 years under his belt, is. Young just wants to win, and contributes to that at every turn. Carr is a dopey robot with a big are and ZERO feel for the game.


So here we sit with the world's worst QB (not to mention O line etc) when we could have remade the team around Young. It was a dreadful choice no matter what the reason was. It was pathetic, dumb, short-sighted . . . fill in the blank yourself.

And now, having made this gigantic mistake of letting Young go, they stick with this bozo loser Carr for yet another year. Who would want to watch that game they played today? I don't care who won, it was so ugly that I turned it off. Who wants a team like that?

Nobody.
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Great. Quit watching. But you're great at second guessing.
 
I still don't understand how you pass up these players:

Vince Young
Reggie Bush
Matt Leinart

I just don't understand it and I never will.
 
I know this...if Carr has the efficiency that VY has, we'd still be asking for his head. Carr is blamed for EVRYTHING in Houston. I mean EVERYTHING. We gave up almost 300 yards passing in the 1st quarter against Buffalo, and the Carr-haters failed to mention that. Carr cannot win in Houston. The haters say that his stats are mis-leading, yet when they win, his stats are the first thing they look to. Our offensive is simple because we have no running game. Check that...no one is afraid of our running game, thus, they take away any deep threats in the passing game. It's that simple guys. As long as Carr keep from tossing interceptions, he'll be fine. Manage the game...manage the game.
 
Sudds said:
I know this...if Carr has the efficiency that VY has, we'd still be asking for his head. Carr is blamed for EVRYTHING in Houston. I mean EVERYTHING. We gave up almost 300 yards passing in the 1st quarter against Buffalo, and the Carr-haters failed to mention that. Carr cannot win in Houston. The haters say that his stats are mis-leading, yet when they win, his stats are the first thing they look to. Our offensive is simple because we have no running game. Check that...no one is afraid of our running game, thus, they take away any deep threats in the passing game. It's that simple guys. As long as Carr keep from tossing interceptions, he'll be fine. Manage the game...manage the game.
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Regardless, thanks for letting us have VY :dance2:
 
on contrar the bear qb grossman only had 34 yds compared to carrs 32 so not really that bad and rex threw ints unlike our fumbles which by the way were not 100 percent carrs fault so just stfu about carr sucking already geezzzzz
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;520133 said:
I still don't understand how you pass up these players:

Vince Young
Reggie Bush
Matt Leinart

I just don't understand it and I never will.
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Cause we liked Mario Williams.. and his name deserves to be grouped in with the other top prospects in the draft.
 
Grid said:
Cause we liked Mario Williams.. and his name deserves to be grouped in with the other top prospects in the draft.
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I'm not saying Mario Williams is a bad top pick. I just see 3 other players to build a team around that are a better choice.

I hope Mario works out for you guys, I really do.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;520177 said:
I'm not saying Mario Williams is a bad top pick. I just see 3 other players to build a team around that are a better choice.

I hope Mario works out for you guys, I really do.
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really?:confused:
 
texflex513 said:
I suggest you convert!!!! willie beamon and the titans are waiting for you. Go NOW!!!!NIGHT HAWK!:aikido:
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I understand what you're trying to say to him and I admire your loyalty to the team. I share it but I have to say that basically Nighthawk is right. I turned it off too. I didn't care who won by halftime. I didn't care to have the Texans completely ruin another Sunday of mine this year. I've got too many other things to do on Sundays that I actually enjoy doing and that don't leave me sick to my stomach.

David Carr couldn't lead a tour of Reliant Stadium much less an offense in it.
 
and why do I care about VY? except that the Titans are coming to town this weekend?

you people and your crushes

VY will be a good one, Bush had a very productive day to day,

Mario will be a good one
 
Nighthawk said:
The chumps in the Houston front office who chose Mario when they could have selected Vince should be weeping right now. Young, who has what, 6 or 8 games under his belt, is twice the QB Carr, with 5 years under his belt, is. Young just wants to win, and contributes to that at every turn. Carr is a dopey robot with a big are and ZERO feel for the game.


So here we sit with the world's worst QB (not to mention O line etc) when we could have remade the team around Young. It was a dreadful choice no matter what the reason was. It was pathetic, dumb, short-sighted . . . fill in the blank yourself.

And now, having made this gigantic mistake of letting Young go, they stick with this bozo loser Carr for yet another year. Who would want to watch that game they played today? I don't care who won, it was so ugly that I turned it off. Who wants a team like that?

Nobody.
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If that is VY and they win, he is remarkable. He is "just a winner".

Get off it. Let it go. Vince is in Tennessee and Carr is here. If you don't like it, go root for Tennessee and get on their message boards because it is just really tiring to hear this week after week!

Young threw a hideous interception today...just like Carr has done. He just stepped back and flung it blindly into the end zone and it got picked. you don't say smack about that, because that sucked and it looked bad for VY.
He threw two picks today by the way and both of them were extremely bad.

You fail to mention or notice that the Titans have a run game and offensive line that is FAR superior to the Texans.

You fail to mention or notice that the Titans run a spread offensive scheme that highlights the quarterback and the Texans run a run based scheme (that can't run) and relies primarily on playaction.

Just go away. Just leave the nonsense at the door. Ridiculous. You are no fan of the Texans. You just want something to cry about.

I know it isn't as glamourous or as sexy and it doesn't include VY, but try this on for size:

Mario Williams today, by my unofficial numbers:

Had four pressures
Forced one interception on a hit
Forced two holding penalties
Forced the Raiders to run the ball AWAY from him 19 times

Last year the Texans were dead last against the run.
The Texans are up to 19th this season. Depsite losing two inside defensive tackles.

Demeco Ryans is the real deal.
Mario Williams is the real deal.
Both played awesome today.
Look to the friggin' future and celebrate that why don'tcha? :marionaner:
 
If you watched the Titans game today you know that Vince Young was a huge part of the victory. He scrambled for 6 first downs. We were over 65% on 3rd downs.

"Specnatz" doesn't know what he is talking about
 
I think Carr would do very well playing in Tennesse. Vince was blessed to go to that team. To begin with they did have a running game to begin the season with. Fisher is one of the best head coaches in the NFL. Chow is considered one of the best OC's and QB coaches in the game. All that adds up to an awful lot of help for a new young QB who does have talent. The team is young and they are growing with Young.

Kubiak is no Fisher and that's all there is to it. Our OC is no NORM CHOW. Carr has taken a lot of abuse as a TEXAN and how the man keeps on playing despite the shots is beyond me. The 1st fumble probably should have been reviewed, but the most important point is the guy had a straight path past Winston and nailed Carr hard. I have a feeling most of you would have fumbled the ball as well. However, there were questions as to whether the ground may have caused the fumble, but it wasn't reviewed. The officials have to call for a review and didn't.

Vince and Reggie both had good days today. It will be interesting to see if they build on this week's game.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;520217 said:
If you watched the Titans game today you know that Vince Young was a huge part of the victory. He scrambled for 6 first downs. We were over 65% on 3rd downs.

"Specnatz" doesn't know what he is talking about
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Actually I did not watch the game but the way and other vy myopinions, it is all about vy and not about his teammates. typical, never give anyone else any credit except the guy you love.

VY did not kick the 60 yard field goal, it says so in black and white print.
 
Hervoyel said:
I understand what you're trying to say to him and I admire your loyalty to the team. I share it but I have to say that basically Nighthawk is right. I turned it off too. I didn't care who won by halftime. I didn't care to have the Texans completely ruin another Sunday of mine this year. I've got too many other things to do on Sundays that I actually enjoy doing and that don't leave me sick to my stomach.

David Carr couldn't lead a tour of Reliant Stadium much less an offense in it.
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Carr was not even given a chance to manage this game let alone lead it with how pathetic,horrible and horrendous our front 5 were today. I just think its unfair for him to be the only one called out most of the time. There is enough blame to go around on offense.
 
coachdent said:
If that is VY and they win, he is remarkable. He is "just a winner".

Get off it. Let it go. Vince is in Tennessee and Carr is here. If you don't like it, go root for Tennessee and get on their message boards because it is just really tiring to hear this week after week!

Young threw a hideous interception today...just like Carr has done. He just stepped back and flung it blindly into the end zone and it got picked. you don't say smack about that, because that sucked and it looked bad for VY.
He threw two picks today by the way and both of them were extremely bad.

You fail to mention or notice that the Titans have a run game and offensive line that is FAR superior to the Texans.

You fail to mention or notice that the Titans run a spread offensive scheme that highlights the quarterback and the Texans run a run based scheme (that can't run) and relies primarily on playaction.

Just go away. Just leave the nonsense at the door. Ridiculous. You are no fan of the Texans. You just want something to cry about.

I know it isn't as glamourous or as sexy and it doesn't include VY, but try this on for size:

Mario Williams today, by my unofficial numbers:

Had four pressures
Forced one interception on a hit
Forced two holding penalties
Forced the Raiders to run the ball AWAY from him 19 times

Last year the Texans were dead last against the run.
The Texans are up to 19th this season. Depsite losing two inside defensive tackles.

Demeco Ryans is the real deal.
Mario Williams is the real deal.
Both played awesome today.
Look to the friggin' future and celebrate that why don'tcha? :marionaner:
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Thank you for actually making some sense in such a passionate way. Pick a team. Either root for the Texans and who we've got or root for the Titans and who they've got. I mean after Bud left us for Nashville, I'm sorry but I don't see how any real Houstonian can root for his franchise. Man love for your college's players has to end once they reach the pros. It's ok to have respect for them. No doubt Young is good and Bush will be good but get over it already. Root for your own freakin team.
And by the way, the spread offense does have a little bit to do with Young's inflated numbers, especially him being a scrambling QB.
 
Specnatz said:
Actually I did not watch the game but the way and other vy myopinions, it is all about vy and not about his teammates. typical, never give anyone else any credit except the guy you love.

VY did not kick the 60 yard field goal, it says so in black and white print.
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So I guess we shouldn't give Tom Brady any credit in the Super Bowl when Vinatieri made the game winning kick.
 
johnboy said:
Why When he starts doing something maybe he will be.Big two tackles today.
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Did you actually watch any of the game? If you did then you would know that Mario did a lot more today than tackle two guys. Stats are nice but they don't tell the whole story about anyone.
 
Specnatz said:
Actually I did not watch the game but the way and other vy myopinions, it is all about vy and not about his teammates. typical, never give anyone else any credit except the guy you love.

VY did not kick the 60 yard field goal, it says so in black and white print.
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no..............but he got them there to do it...............and while he did make mistakes go to a Colt board tonight and ask them what VY did to their D................VY is the second best QB in the AFC South.............and soon he'll be on top of that too.
 
texflex513 said:
Carr was not even given a chance to manage this game let alone lead it with how pathetic,horrible and horrendous our front 5 were today. I just think its unfair for him to be the only one called out most of the time. There is enough blame to go around on offense.
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Today I saw an interesting thing. I saw Aaron Brooks roll to his right and look downfield while doing it. I saw him roll towards the sideline and trade any chance he had for positive yardage on the ground while he looked for a receiver downfield to get open. It didn't happen of course because the Texans defense is good enough to contain a sorry offense like the Raiders most of the time but the part that caught my eye was how casually Brooks flicked the ball away just before he stepped out of bounds. As crappy a QB as Aaron Brooks is (And having watched David Carr ply his trade for 5 straight years now I consider myself an expert on crappy QB's) I have to admit that to my eyes that non-play was a thing of beauty.

Aaron Brooks sucks. Aaron Brooks has been sacked like groceries this season. Aaron Brooks couldn't buy himself a good decision on the field this year even if he borrowed Reggie Bush's signing bonus to pay for it. One thing Aaron Brooks doesn't do however is sack himself by running out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. He can successfully not do that without even thinking about it.

When you're watching Aaron Brooks play QB and thinking "I wish my teams QB would learn how to do that" then you have to stop and ask yourself if maybe your team needs to go in another direction where the QB position is concerned.

Lots of blame to go around today for a miserable afternoon on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not giving anyone else a pass on this and I know that the line needs work and help. That doesn't mean Carr gets a pass on his miserable play.
 
caddy said:
I posted last week; That when we win.. it really makes the Carr hater's go nuts.. Sorry guys, but sure beat losing. Suffer, or better yet .. Leave, and take nightmare with you. :cool:
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OH come on Caddy ... if it was'nt for the anti-Carr people you'd be bored .
 
BattleRedToro said:
I for one seriously wonder if Carr's ability to be a great NFL QB has been permanently compromised after having been sacked relentlessly during his formative years in the NFL. I sure hope not, but watching him play it looks that way at times.
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The thing to me is not how he got here ( getting beat like rented mule ) its he's here . The team owes him nothing beyond what he gets paid , and each year you wait is a year down the drain .
 
Hervoyel said:
Today I saw an interesting thing. I saw Aaron Brooks roll to his right and look downfield while doing it. I saw him roll towards the sideline and trade any chance he had for positive yardage on the ground while he looked for a receiver downfield to get open. It didn't happen of course because the Texans defense is good enough to contain a sorry offense like the Raiders most of the time but the part that caught my eye was how casually Brooks flicked the ball away just before he stepped out of bounds. As crappy a QB as Aaron Brooks is (And having watched David Carr ply his trade for 5 straight years now I consider myself an expert on crappy QB's) I have to admit that to my eyes that non-play was a thing of beauty.

Aaron Brooks sucks. Aaron Brooks has been sacked like groceries this season. Aaron Brooks couldn't buy himself a good decision on the field this year even if he borrowed Reggie Bush's signing bonus but Aaron Brooks doesn't sack himself by running out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. He can successfully not do that without even thinking about it.

When you're watching Aaron Brooks play QB and thinking "I wish my teams QB would learn how to do that" then you have to stop and ask yourself if maybe your team needs to go in another direction where the QB position is concerned.

Lots of blame to go around today for a miserable afternoon on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not giving anyone else a pass on this and I know that the line needs work and help. That doesn't mean Carr gets a pass on his miserable play.
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I agree 100% Carr is damaged goods he does not have the feel for the pocket like other Qbs do when they instinctively step up in the pocket and some of the basic skills a Qb should possess he struggles at...but i believe kubiak will have him together if given more time i just hope it does not turn texans fans against kubes for really believing in david.....the way i still do I am a texans fan 1st but i think we have our guy in carr despite his bad years already.
 
Go to NFL.com and look at past drafts ( you may have to look in history section ) and see all the players the C&C football factory missed on . I think Carr and his handling is another nail in the coffin .
 
VY was better than carr in college when carr was playing for the Texans....And I liked car untill the past 6 games he has played.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;520133 said:
I still don't understand how you pass up these players:

Vince Young
Reggie Bush
Matt Leinart

I just don't understand it and I never will.
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5 turnovers forced, 7 points allowed (and thats was off a short-field). I like how our defense has turned out, thank you very much.
 
PocketAces said:
WOW some of you people are on a whole other level... Well I have had enough of it, next week a real QB comes to town, Aggies will be on here in full force, Carr homers trying to make people feel guilty for pulling for Vince, I can't wait. Titans 21 (probably more) - Houston 0
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And what do Vince Homers do? try to make people feel guilty of the Mario pick..

two peas in a pod..

how about both players can be good in this league.
 
Ibar_Harry said:
I think Carr would do very well playing in Tennesse. Vince was blessed to go to that team. To begin with they did have a running game to begin the season with. Fisher is one of the best head coaches in the NFL. Chow is considered one of the best OC's and QB coaches in the game. All that adds up to an awful lot of help for a new young QB who does have talent. The team is young and they are growing with Young.

Kubiak is no Fisher and that's all there is to it. Our OC is no NORM CHOW. Carr has taken a lot of abuse as a TEXAN and how the man keeps on playing despite the shots is beyond me. The 1st fumble probably should have been reviewed, but the most important point is the guy had a straight path past Winston and nailed Carr hard. I have a feeling most of you would have fumbled the ball as well. However, there were questions as to whether the ground may have caused the fumble, but it wasn't reviewed. The officials have to call for a review and didn't.
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EXCELLENT POINTS! Right on!:woot:
VY makes plenty of mistakes but he doesn't because that Superman never makes a mistake. :hyper:
Two picks today for Vince would be how most Texan fans would view Carr doing the same thing. VY has MUCh more to work with in terms of a system and those around him. It is laughable.

One week does not a carrer make and for the record, the Titans are one game better than the Texans. So just a dose of reality before the coronation please.
 
coachdent said:
EXCELLENT POINTS! Right on!:woot:
VY makes plenty of mistakes but he doesn't because that Superman never makes a mistake. :hyper:
Two picks today for Vince would be how most Texan fans would view Carr doing the same thing. VY has MUCh more to work with in terms of a system and those around him. It is laughable.

One week does not a carrer make and for the record, the Titans are one game better than the Texans. So just a dose of reality before the coronation please.
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Let me refresh your memory:

Both of our starting TEs are hurt for the season: Erron Kinney and Ben Troupe.

Our #1 wide receiver is out for the season: David Givens

Here is who Vince has to throw to (tell me how many of these players you have even heard of):
Drew Bennett
Brandon Jones
Courtney Roby
Roydell Williams
Bo Scaife
Ben Hartsock
Ahmard Hall

So don't even try to tell me Vince has great players around him. None of those people have ever sniffed a Pro Bowl.
 
PocketAces said:
Before VY stepped in Tenn was crap, he was a breath of fresh air. I bet the Texans players would like to feel that way, maybe Carr can bring that to the team next week.......pause..........NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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VY's breath of fresh air has yielded four wins and five losses. Canton should reserve a spot for him right now!

It is the Tennessee run game that has been the source of their success. That, and a hideous collapse by the Giants, alos aided by two horrendous calls on fourth down that gave the Titans life.
 
so why wouldn't you root for Mario? if you liked that pick?

did we root for Josh becket when he pitched against the Astros .. or did we root for the Astros

Do we root for Rashad Lewis when he plays against the rockets?

no we rooted for the transplant Houstonians.. Bagwell/Biggio against Becket.. or rooted for McGrady/Ming against Lewis.


so why wouldn't we root for Ryans/Williams against Young?
 
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