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Andre's Not Happy

AJ might be the most underachieving player right now, based on his potential of course, but it's still hard for me to blame him when we have guys out there that just don't have the talent for their specific position, especially in the defensive backfield. Then there's what I see as utter confusion in the run-blocking, but that's debatable. It is true that we need some players to step up and make big plays, non of which are doing it, and AJ is the most talented player on the team. I think he can do more, despite all his yardage that he has gotten. I can't say I feel so confident about anybody else's chances for individual improvement.
 
"It's very frustrating, because everybody around here wants to win," Johnson said. "That's the biggest thing — to win. We just have to use these five games and try to perform at the highest level we can so we can hopefully build something."
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I dunno, is this candid talk by AJ or just lip service ?
We'll see Sunday in Oakland.
 
nunusguy said:
"It's very frustrating, because everybody around here wants to win," Johnson said. "That's the biggest thing — to win. We just have to use these five games and try to perform at the highest level we can so we can hopefully build something."
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I dunno, is this candid talk by AJ or just lip service ?
We'll see Sunday in Oakland.
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As we all know, AJ rarely talks. I think the fact that he's talking so candidly is a sign of his frustration. Once our defensive backfield plays well and our D-line starts pressuring qbs on a regular basis; and once our running game actually manages to gain more than 100 yards per game, i think we'll see dre at his top form once again. i believe in him.
 
I don't really see Andre complaining in this article.He even took much of the blame for the loss.I happen to think he is a underrated receiver that doesn't get many big yardage plays(20 yards or more) because his QB doesn't give him as many chances.He gets most of his catches on short yardage routes or slant routes.
 
The pots starting to boil ... the Texans except for Gary Walker have pretty much stuck to the company line when discussing the team . Maybe thats a problem .
 
I don't see where AJ is complaining about anything other than he isn't happy about the losses and feels some responsibility, as he should, and that the team as a whole isn't happy about the losses, as they should be. Frankly, I don't see any negative comments by him or about the team. To try and portray this as some sort of dession or devisivness by him or within the team is stupid. I'm sure they are all frustrated at the losses, but I doubt there is a blame game going on. They all know they have all been out played for the most part and need to play better.
 
Heard an interesting comment by Eric Moulds last night. He basically said that he told players to keep competing because some of them will not be on the team next year and they don't want anything for to look at on film when evaluating their talent. I got the feeling that he was addressing those players that were not going to be here. Also know that he is close to Andre. Guess I'm just stirring the pot.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
The pots starting to boil ... the Texans except for Gary Walker have pretty much stuck to the company line when discussing the team . Maybe thats a problem .
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You forgot Sharper also. He had some things to say.... Which ironically enough, he was gone the very next off-season.
 
Sometimes saying these things are good for motivation sake and sometimes they only cause more problems.

I am not a fan of bringing your frustrations out to the public. This should be done behind closed doors in team meetings. But I could be wrong, as maybe this will in fact be a motivator. We will see...
 
edo783 said:
I don't see where AJ is complaining about anything other than he isn't happy about the losses and feels some responsibility, as he should, and that the team as a whole isn't happy about the losses, as they should be. Frankly, I don't see any negative comments by him or about the team. To try and portray this as some sort of dession or devisivness by him or within the team is stupid. I'm sure they are all frustrated at the losses, but I doubt there is a blame game going on. They all know they have all been out played for the most part and need to play better.
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I agree with you. I actually came away from the article kind of positive. Maybe this will end up being similar to the time Kubiak fronted Mario out. AJ might have crisper routes or maybe a must get open attitude. We'll see.
 
It says he's not TO or Braylin Edwards is what it says . If there is'nt some discontent ... thats not a good thing . If your as bad as they've been and your a competitor ... you could'nt help but want to jump down somebody's throat . I guess this is the gentler kinder Texans .
 
Texan_Bill said:
You forgot Sharper also. He had some things to say.... Which ironically enough, he was gone the very next off-season.
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I think that had little (if anything) with Sharper leaving. The Texans had injury concerns with Sharper at the time and he ended up getting IR'd the next year in Seattle and then cut after the season. Since then I think he's had trouble getting on with a team (Tampa, New England) ... not sure if anyone has signed him yet.
 
"If you look at the games we won, Andre made some special plays in those games," Kubiak said. "When we don't make those plays, we struggle. I just need him to make more of them."

On Monday, Kubiak sat in on meetings with the receivers. Dropped balls and the missed assignments were rehashed. The players were also shown missed plays and yards they left on the field.

"I'm not going to let them be average," Kubiak said.

"We have to get down the field better," Kubiak said. "We have to come off the ball better. I think being a good receiver in this league is being able to take little plays and make them big plays. I think we can make people miss better, take more responsibility as far as run after the catch."
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Hmmm . . . the head coach is sitting in on the receivers meetings?

Ruh-roh! Yeah . . I'd say someone's not happy alright! Maybe what Andre's really not happy about, is that he's being 'evaluated' just like everyone else.
 
His dropped pass before the half cost us potential points. We just seem to be missing opportuntities in every phase of the game.
 
Kubiak's talking to what maybe a future hall of famer and his best offensive player ... could it be he's telling them to hang in there it'll get better . He may be saying ... look you guys have got to play hard or we have no chance .


Anyone ever been the star of the team and have the coach give you a one on one talk . It does'nt happen during a good streak it happens when he sees your fed up . My most memorable talk is when I was 14 and lost the game for first place to win the first half of the league . We jumped in his truck and sat there for awhile talking ... I looked up and he had a girly calender on his visor . I just looked up and had a lot of questions about the team after i noticed the calender .
 
Andre hardly deserves the most blame, but he deserves some.... just like everyone else. We have all seen him dropping easily catchable balls recently. I can't get too boiled about that, though.... considering he is talent-wise a man amongst boys on the field.
 
nunusguy said:
"It's very frustrating, because everybody around here wants to win," Johnson said. "That's the biggest thing — to win. We just have to use these five games and try to perform at the highest level we can so we can hopefully build something."
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I dunno, is this candid talk by AJ or just lip service ?
We'll see Sunday in Oakland.
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Stop dropping balls. That would help.
 
You can imagine that if we are frustrated of seeing 3 yards dump offs, screens and slants, AJ's frustration is only greater. He comes from a histroy of winning and its understandable to see him upset with how this season has turned out. However, he can improve his performace like everyone else.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
Anybody besides me out there who does'nt believe that AJ is head and shoulders our best offensive player even with the drops .
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And that is a problem because he's not a game breaker. I've been chirping for a long time now that he is not breaking tackles and is getting taken down by cornerbacks too easily. The quick slants are good and needs to break away from the receivers. if that happens then the cornerbacks and safeties have to play him more legitimately and will have to focus on him more. that opens up so much for the offense. If AJ is going up against a good CB, the CB usually wins.
 
MrMeToo said:
I don't really see Andre complaining in this article.He even took much of the blame for the loss.I happen to think he is a underrated receiver that doesn't get many big yardage plays(20 yards or more) because his QB doesn't give him as many chances.He gets most of his catches on short yardage routes or slant routes.
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He lead the league in receptions earlier this season right? He's getting plenty of balls thrown his way, question is, what's he doing with them?
 
run-david-run said:
You can imagine that if we are frustrated of seeing 3 yards dump offs, screens and slants, AJ's frustration is only greater. He comes from a histroy of winning and its understandable to see him upset with how this season has turned out. However, he can improve his performace like everyone else.
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Good point! I know I'd be sick of this offense if I were him.
 
The problem is, the defense know what we are going to do. Just park your safties and corners within 10 yards from the LOS and hit the guy with the ball.
 
edo783 said:
I don't see where AJ is complaining about anything other than he isn't happy about the losses and feels some responsibility, as he should, and that the team as a whole isn't happy about the losses, as they should be. Frankly, I don't see any negative comments by him or about the team. To try and portray this as some sort of dession or devisivness by him or within the team is stupid. I'm sure they are all frustrated at the losses, but I doubt there is a blame game going on. They all know they have all been out played for the most part and need to play better.
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Where is the hitting the nail on the head smilie?
 
If we're talking WCO and slants I have a question ... since the Jerry Rice days until now , I have seen several TDs on slants . They all came from the right . The WR caught the ball ... he had his guy on his back , evaded a tackle and was gone . They all started from the right and AJ plays on the left ... maybe its a fluke .
 
It's interesting on a day where he and Moulds caught ten balls each, AJ had this to say:

"It was our worst performance as receivers," Johnson said. "That's frustrating. This is my fourth year here now, and after all (the losses) it kind of wears and tears on you."
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The fact that we fans can't see the routes on TV is pretty well brought home by this statement, to me. Not that we'd all know what we were supposed to be seeing for the most part, anyway, since we're not privy to what route they're supposed to be running.
 
I would bet that AJ, Carr AND Moulds play with a different attitude in Oakland. Their jobs depend on it.

The only problem I see with that, and I don't know enough admittedly, but they can't play to their ability if the rest of the line isn't doing their jobs too.

So once again, maybe they'll all come to the party at the same time.

One could wish!! :challenge
 
On Monday, Kubiak sat in on meetings with the receivers. Dropped balls and the missed assignments were rehashed. The players were also shown missed plays and yards they left on the field.
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So that and NO running game!

Pretty hard to play QB on that day. But how cares it is all on 8.:cool:
 
Malloy said:
Still leading the league in receptions actually.
http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/REC/2006/regular
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If stats are not a good indication of how a QB performs, why wouldn't that apply to receivers? The dink and dunk style of offense produces misleading stats to a receiver just as much as a QB.

The prevailing question about how good Andre Johnson really is, has to considered in the problem of "getting the ball downfield".

My problem with AJ, is not really the dropped balls, but rather his inability to separate from his coverage. In other words "get open". Why is it that he's always covered like a blanket, even in single coverage by a supposedly less talented DB? And then, on the rare occasions where he DOES get open, then you're holding your breath wondering if he's going to catch it.

Yeah, every once in awhile, he'll make a the highlight reel catch . . get everyone oohing and aahhing, but I'm cussing him out just as much.

Best player on the offense, someone asks? That's not saying much, IMO.
 
Marcus said:
If stats are not a good indication of how a QB performs, why wouldn't that apply to receivers? The dink and dunk style of offense produces misleading stats to a receiver just as much as a QB.
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I was just pointing out the fact that he IS getting balls thrown his way. :)

Whether or not he produces enough YAC's, you'll have to watch the games for that, no statistics can show you that.
 
Marcus said:
Getting some separation in the Cover 2 every once in awhile might help out some too!:idea:
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Thank you, my thoughts exactly. Of course, the other half of that equation is having a QB that can recognize that separation and lead the receiver accordingly.
 
Marcus said:
My problem with AJ, is not really the dropped balls, but rather his inability to separate from his coverage. In other words "get open". Why is it that he's always covered like a blanket, even in single coverage by a supposedly less talented DB?
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I think that can be attributed to AJ being fast, but not sudden/quick. It take him 5-10 yards to get that motor going. If the routs were staight line he could maybe blow by the DB after about 40-60 yards, but in the shorter routes, he isn't quick enough to get the separation.
 
Does our WR Coach have anything to do with the receiver problems?

Kubiak hired a kid that played the 'bench' for UT-went to Tampa Bay in 'quality control'-has never been a position coach of any kind and is now in charge of our receivers. Any thoughts?...........
 
Let's not forget that this is still a major rebuilding period for the Texans. If you look at their coaching staff, 8 of the 11 coaches (i didn't look at assistants) are new to Houston, and that takes time to mesh everything together. I have to be honest, I want to see them finish at 500 or above but the major changes that they are going through takes time. I can still see the improvement on the offense as well as the defense. I think that they do play a lot better now. Consistency is what they need to work on now.

I'm sure AJ is frustrated, having a record under 500 for his professional career can be frustrating. (i've never experienced it, but i can only imagine) But it's how you fight through that frustration and fine tune all your skills, as a player and a team, that makes you a champion.
 
truetexan said:
I'm sure AJ is frustrated, having a record under 500 for his professional career can be frustrating. (i've never experienced it, but i can only imagine) But it's how you fight through that frustration and fine tune all your skills, as a player and a team, that makes you a champion.
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And part of that fight should include not dropping balls when they hit you right on the numbers.
:texan:
 
Superstar said:
ahaha maybe they are pissed at Carr, because like Carr :homer:'s they blame everything else, but Carr. Carr is probably blaming everything around him and everyone now is pissed. I hope now they get rid of him!
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Get rid of him? Whos' him? Johnson? Moulds?

Maybe the Texans should make Moulds the primary reciever, at least he can catch something besides a cold. All Johnson does is catch balls in garbage time, never when we need a clutch reception to keep the ball moving.

Johnson needs to learn to fight for the ball instead of letting db's take it out of his hands.

Actually I don't believe a thing I just typed, but it makes more sense than the endless drivel the Carr bashers :joker: keep posting.

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
Get rid of him? Whos' him? Johnson? Moulds?

Maybe the Texans should make Moulds the primary reciever, at least he can catch something besides a cold. All Johnson does is catch balls in garbage time, never when we need a clutch reception to keep the ball moving.

Johnson needs to learn to fight for the ball instead of letting db's take it out of his hands.

Actually I don't believe a thing I just typed, but it makes more sense than the endless drivel the Carr bashers :joker: keep posting.

:coffee:
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Thats what Ive been saying. Moulds needs to be set as primary, AJs stats are inflated because David Carrs stats dont count and its in garbage time.

(Seriously how can his stats count but Davids dont)?
 
tsip said:
Does our WR Coach have anything to do with the receiver problems?

Kubiak hired a kid that played the 'bench' for UT-went to Tampa Bay in 'quality control'-has never been a position coach of any kind and is now in charge of our receivers. Any thoughts?...........
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Yeah I have some thoughts. You may be right in that he is an unproven coach, but the best coaches are generally the players that were not the best. So, his riding the bench for UT had nothing to do with it. You all keep talking about proven winners and crap like that. What about the guys who are proven teachers. If he rode the bench, maybe he did so, because he was far superior in understanding the game, but far inferior at being able to produce?

I'm not trying to say anything, but the indicator of whether or not he has been a good coach is whether or not Kubiak dumps him by the end of the season. I guarantee Kubiak wants to keep his job more than remain loyal.

Again, I'm not trying to say that he is a great coach, but to say that he is not one because of the fact that he did not play much as a WR himself has nothing to do with his abilities as a coach. (ex. I sure as hell would not want to play for Michael Jordan. He would not be able to explain how to make anyone else better, because it just came naturally).
 
leachmtb said:
Yeah I have some thoughts. You may be right in that he is an unproven coach, but the best coaches are generally the players that were not the best. So, his riding the bench for UT had nothing to do with it. You all keep talking about proven winners and crap like that. What about the guys who are proven teachers. If he rode the bench, maybe he did so, because he was far superior in understanding the game, but far inferior at being able to produce?

I'm not trying to say anything, but the indicator of whether or not he has been a good coach is whether or not Kubiak dumps him by the end of the season. I guarantee Kubiak wants to keep his job more than remain loyal.

Again, I'm not trying to say that he is a great coach, but to say that he is not one because of the fact that he did not play much as a WR himself has nothing to do with his abilities as a coach. (ex. I sure as hell would not want to play for Michael Jordan. He would not be able to explain how to make anyone else better, because it just came naturally).
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Wow, I did not think our WR coach was a kid? Dang thats messed up, no wonder AJ drops passes (along with so many others)
 
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