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mario vs. reggie

buckaroo_banzai

buckaroo_banzai

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hey guys, who do you think is having a better season so far...mario or reggie?
i already know what ESPN thinks, but what do YOU think?



for my:twocents: i feel like mario is getting better each week while bush is struggling.:yikes:
 
Mario, hands down. Running backs are in a better position to come in and start with a team as a rookie. Bush has been a bad running back and a so-so dump off option. He's getting a lot of catches but not much yardage...

BUT...

Now he's going to use the "I hab a sower ankew" excuse. Watch ESPN talk about how he's injured and that's why he's not walking on water.

Anyway, Mario has set the Texans rookie sack record already, he leads the team in sacks, and he's getting better each week. He's going to be scary good.
 
I remember right after preseason before the season started ESPN was doing a special on the rookies & the last question was Mario vs Reggie.

Trey Wingo asked if Bush will have more TDs than Mario has sacks.

Golic & Schlereth said it would be Mario= 8 sacks & Reggie= 5 TD.

Salisbury & Jaworski said it would be Reggie= 12 TD & Mario= 6 sacks.

It is nice to see who was wrong.

How is this "Reggie is God" thing workin out for ESPN now?
 
Well, when they took Mario over Reggie in the draft, I was mad that they took an unproven "work-out warrior" who wasn't really the best DL at North Carolina, over the "2nd coming of Gale Sayers", who was a lock to be the greatest HOF player in history.

Looks like Kubiak knew what he was doing.
 
Mario, easy. I like the fight I saw in him today. With him and Demeco Ryans, I see a dominant defense in the making. Do you think the talking heads will ever admit they were wrong? Not until we start winning, my guess. Heres hoping we go 6-2 over the last half of the season!
 
I think ESPN has given up on Bush. He has been so bad (as I predicted) in his rookie season that they have nothing to manufacture more hype. Not only was this guy not worth the #1 pick, I don't think he was worth a 1st round pick. The other 3 running backs taken in the 1st round are having better seasons.
 
As of right now it's not even close, Mario is outperforming Bush. Just don't forget they're both half way through their rookie campaigns. I think they're both going to make good pro's.
 
jaayteetx said:
Mario, easy. I like the fight I saw in him today. With him and Demeco Ryans, I see a dominant defense in the making. Do you think the talking heads will ever admit they were wrong? Not until we start winning, my guess. Heres hoping we go 6-2 over the last half of the season!
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I'm wondering if a "few" posters are going to admit they were wrong. I remember what it was like around here back on draft day.
 
Marcus said:
I'm wondering if a "few" posters are going to admit they were wrong. I remember what it was like around here back on draft day.
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Your right.

I wasnt a member of this board at draft time but I did want Mario.

Actually, I think I just wanted anybody but Bush. I would've been happy with Ferguson, Young, or Hawk.
 
I have really been impressed with Mario, he put a lot of pressure on eli today that goes unaccounted for.

I loved this years draft. I keep flip flopping about next year. LaRon Landry, no Leon Hall, no Offensive Line stud, no Adrian Peterson. How bout all of them!

At this point I trust Kubiak and Co. they sure as heck know more about everything than we do. I think I'll be happy with whatever they decide to do. I'm just really excited to finish the season strong, see what happens in the offseason and next years draft.
 
All you Carr haters, must be Bush lovers. Look at Mario He will be an animal in a couple of years. The Bush lovers sure are quiet, it would be nice if they would come on board and admit that maybe the coaching staff and talent evaluators know a little more than they do.
:mario: So to them I say go Bush yourselves!
 
I think the argument is about done by now. Willams was the better choice, and thank God we didn't take Young. I know all you guys love the guy because he is from Houston but he just does not have what it takes to be a QB in the NFL. It makes me happy the Titans screwed up and took him instead of Leinhart

Now, I have to admit I wanted the team to trade down and take Ferguson but I am VERY happy with Williams.
 
Goldeagle said:
Did Bush have - yards today running?

How does Mario compare to Vince and D Brick though?
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I don't know how D'Brick is doing.... it's hard to judge an OLman if you aren't watching the game. Same as judging a DLman, but there are even less stats for an OL man.

Then Vince.... just because he was starting way before any one thought he would be, IMHO, means he is doing a lot better his first year than "everyone" thought he would. Don't expect Vince to complete more than 50% of his passes, don't expect Vince to throw for 26 touchdowns, or to rush for 500 yards this season. All he has to do, is get used to the speed of the game, learn the play book, and start recognizing the defensive looks he'll see. It's hard to determine how well he is doing in those situations, But if the Titans are competitive next year, you know he did what he was supposed to do.

If the Titans are competitive this year.... Vince is doing better than any of us thought.

Mario is doing fine....... but I'd like to see him step it up a bit more in the 4th, when the game is on the line.

I like his energy through out the game, I'm satisfied with Mario, very pleased indeed...... But he & Demeco need to step it up in the 4th, and take over the game.
 
Mario is doing a lot better than Reggie, and only a biased person would say that REggie is anywhere near Mario's playing skill as of now.

I was personally on the draft D'Brick boat in April, and if anybody has caught any Jets games, i'd really love to know how he's doing. I wish i could catch some Jets games for myself, but they're not too popular.
 
In this system, who knows how Reggie would do. You have to remember that N.O. has another former 1st round draft pick in Deuce. Hence Reggie isnt even the #1 R.B. @ N.O. I did question the Williams pick, but he does seem to be getting more comfortable in this system. Athletically he is a freak.
 
los is 7 said:
All you Carr haters, must be Bush lovers. Look at Mario He will be an animal in a couple of years. The Bush lovers sure are quiet, it would be nice if they would come on board and admit that maybe the coaching staff and talent evaluators know a little more than they do.
:mario: So to them I say go Bush yourselves!
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I wanted Bush..BAD! I couldn't be more happy than to see him do poorly. Not because of spite but because of all the things he said, having to get use to losing, and him being the 'messiah.'

11 carries for -5 yards. Honestly, i would've never imagined that. I mean, Lundy had more rushing in his 2 good games than Bush has....this season.

We're in the right direction. We could use another MONSTER DT, Lance Briggs, and the CB from Buffalo. Overpay and let's turn this thing around.
 
There was no pre draft comparision between the two given our needs and spending and there is no comparision to date. Mario is scaling nicely. :mario:
 
I said this in another post but it bears repeating.

Today, Mario Williams(playign DE) had more rushing yards then Reggie Bush.
Oh and Mario is up to 4.5 sacks through 8 and is on pace for a 9 sack season.
 
caddy said:
Sorry.. but what is a reggiebush... I still don't know. Got a feeling it means hype, used in sports by hype salemen.
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you need to watch the rookie drafted by NewEngland.

The guy is an awesome kick returner, running back, and receiver out of the backfield.

it's supposed to reference some guy in NewOrleans, but their rookie sensation is named Marquez Colston.
 
I was on the trade down and get either Mario Williams or D'Brick bandwagon.

But, I guess the Texans saw something real special in Mario and didn't want to risk anybody taking him, the way Mario has started to play; I don't blame the Texans one bit for taking him number 1 overall.


Let's imagine that the Texans had taken Peppers instead of Carr, everyone would have been ridiculing the Texans. But as it turns out, there are a lot of people ridiculing the Texasn now because the Texans selected Carr instead of Peppers.

It's the your damned if your do and your damned if you don't.


:fireball: is playing nice :cool:
 
A lot of people wanted Joey Harrington instead of David Carr. hmm joey turned out good.

Carr > Joey
Mario > Bush

oh well.
 
Mario is really starting to play good. I hope he keeps on improving each week. He's becoming the player we need him to be.
 
Superstar said:
true dat!!:cool:
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why is it that QB's are the only position to which there is a win-loss record attached? that really belitles the contributions of about 40 other players that have critical roles in the outcome of a football game. If anyone truly belives that Joey Harrington is a better QB only because his TEAM has won more games then David Carr's, you have some problems.
 
run-david-run said:
why is it that QB's are the only position to which there is a win-loss record attached? that really belitles the contributions of about 40 other players that have critical roles in the outcome of a football game. If anyone truly belives that Joey Harrington is a better QB only because his TEAM has won more games then David Carr's, you have some problems.
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true dat
 
run-david-run said:
why is it that QB's are the only position to which there is a win-loss record attached? that really belitles the contributions of about 40 other players that have critical roles in the outcome of a football game. If anyone truly belives that Joey Harrington is a better QB only because his TEAM has won more games then David Carr's, you have some problems.
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Their stats are pretty close for their careers other than the W-L columns. passing yards..... about the same:

....................David...vs.... Joey
Passing yards: 12,130.........11,291
TDs: .............57...............66
Ints...............58...............71
Pass Atts........1851...........1980
comp perc......59.3%..........54.9%
rating............76................67
Starts............67...............59

Well they were a lot closer before the season..... Joey sat out four games this year. & I don't think these numbers reflect Yesterdays games.... where he threw for 3 TDs(& 2 Ints) in a 31-13 Spanking of the Chicago Bears.
 
Wait this is a Mario v Reggie thread right. What does dc and harrington have to do with any of that. Well I am absolutely siked about Mario Williams he started off slow but these last 3 games he has really shown some good stuff. Getting to the QB and making it look easy. Reggie who......oh yeah the punt returner for NO in 3 years no one will remember the name Reggie Bush. I think when Mario gets his next sack instead of copying the other teams celebration jig he should do something like the SOUL SNATCH!!!!!:yikes: It would go something like acting to rip out the QB's soul and swallowing it like the beast he is then his nick name could be super soul snatching Mario. Hell Yeah!!!!......What do you think?
 
Mario - 4.5 sacks halfway through the season and made some plays that have no stats associated with them (i.e. tipped pass - or the incompletion from Manning that should have been a fumble, etc.)

Bush - 26 yards average rushing and 39 yards average receiving for a whopping 65 yards a game... Not bad for a rookie, but not great for a guy that got so much hype and is supposed to be a playmaker.....
 
Reggie has been a dissappointment obviously. I know this is going to sound like another shameless "Reggie Hater" posts but think about NO's situation:

Saints have a gazillion dollars put into their backfield and Bush hasn't done much. He can't run the football inbetween the tackles as predicted, and his receptions are hardly anything more than trying to find a way to get the ball into the hands of your #1 pick. Seriously, he's more of a sideshow than an actual producer on the team. He is definitely not a full-time, every-down starter. Looking at it, he probably shouldn't even be on the field half of the time. He's a 3rd and long player pretty much. It's like investing your 1st pick in a 3rd down back.

I think Bush still has all the talent in the world to become a Santana Moss or a Steve Smith. But you've got Colston and Horn, so where does that leave Bush? If you look at what he did at USC, almost all the things he's done has been in open space, and that's where he needs to operate. But as a RB, he's a dissappointment and has shown no improvement running the ball. Is Bush the regular punt and kick returner too? I know you don't want him getting hurt, but it's even more stupid not to put him in the best position to contribute to your team. Michael Lewis and Bush both out there for your return team? Now that is something that would scare me. Lewis and Bush makes a much better duo than Bush and Deuce.
 
phan1 said:
Reggie has been a dissappointment obviously. I know this is going to sound like another shameless "Reggie Hater" posts but think about NO's situation:

Saints have a gazillion dollars put into their backfield and Bush hasn't done much. He can't run the football inbetween the tackles as predicted, and his receptions are hardly anything more than trying to find a way to get the ball into the hands of your #1 pick. Seriously, he's more of a sideshow than an actual producer on the team. He is definitely not a full-time, every-down starter. Looking at it, he probably shouldn't even be on the field half of the time. He's a 3rd and long player pretty much. It's like investing your 1st pick in a 3rd down back.

I think Bush still has all the talent in the world to become a Santana Moss or a Steve Smith. But you've got Colston and Horn, so where does that leave Bush? If you look at what he did at USC, almost all the things he's done has been in open space, and that's where he needs to operate. But as a RB, he's a dissappointment and has shown no improvement running the ball. Is Bush the regular punt and kick returner too? I know you don't want him getting hurt, but it's even more stupid not to put him in the best position to contribute to your team. Michael Lewis and Bush both out there for your return team? Now that is something that would scare me. Lewis and Bush makes a much better duo than Bush and Deuce.
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Good post. I agree.

I tried to tell all my friends before the draft that Bush was overhyped but they were blinded by the media.

Look at the Pac-10. It is ALL about offense in that conference. The defenses in that conference are pathetic. Pathetic. Bush was just the fastest player on the field & ran around a bunch of undisciplined kids. Now he is playing with the best athletes in the world and he cant run around anybody anymore.

By the way, Skip Bayless actually said something smart this morning on Cold Pizza. He said that Colston is the best rookie on that team & that he has said all along that Bush was vastly overhyped.
 
hey guys, who do you think is having a better season so far...mario or reggie?
i already know what ESPN thinks, but what do YOU think?

Mario gets incrementally better every week. Can't say the same for Bush or Vince.
 
QB75 said:
hey guys, who do you think is having a better season so far...mario or reggie?
i already know what ESPN thinks, but what do YOU think?

Mario gets incrementally better every week. Can't say the same for Bush or Vince.
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I think it's obvious that Mario is having the better season....and I don't think ESPN thinks otherwise....

All of that ragging on "Houston's mistake" talk has calmed down....
 
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