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Kubiak: "Carr is our guy.."

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Kubiak said after the game that Carr will start against the Giants. The reason Carr was pulled is that Kubiak told him if he lost a fumble in the 3rd quarter, he would pull him.
 
I think the only head they will be after is Carr's.

Kubes has shown the willingness to bench Carr, and I dont doubt that Carr will be on a short leash next week. Meaning, if he starts to look anything like he did this week, hes gonna be pulled again (i bet).
 
The Dream said:
If Carr stinks it up next week, this city will be calling for Kubiak's head.
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Aside from the fumbles Carr looked good today and I don't know that the fumbles were necessarily Carr's fault. I don't disagree with playing Sage today, Kubiak wanted to play better in our worse quarter and set an example by pulling Carr. But Carr is extremely talented and deserves to be our starter.
 
Wow....I'm a little shocked.

But after a LITTLE thought.....I think this might be DC's last chance.

(I would have gone with Sage for now though)
 
NEROtheZERO said:
Aside from the fumbles Carr looked good today and I don't know that the fumbles were necessarily Carr's fault. I don't disagree with playing Sage today, Kubiak wanted to play better in our worse quarter and set an example by pulling Carr. But Carr is extremely talented and deserves to be our starter.
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What about the INT to triple coverage? Or the tipped passes. Or the passes to the ground? Or what about not getting the #1 receiver in the AFC involved in the 1st half? Sage>Carr.
 
Grid said:
I think the only head they will be after is Carr's.

Kubes has shown the willingness to bench Carr, and I dont doubt that Carr will be on a short leash next week. Meaning, if he starts to look anything like he did this week, hes gonna be pulled again (i bet).
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Coming from one of the biggest Carr apologists on the board, it must mean something since he is such a "pro" on these boards. I said Carr was done 2 weeks ago, he got a grace in the Jacksonville game, his true colors showed today, especially on the sidelines with his pouting shoulder pad holding crybaby attitude. Someone other than Carr must start in order for this organization to start anew. More Carr apologists will be coming out of the woodwork this week saying the same thing. The only addendum is that they will "claim" they really knew that all along.
 
The happiest ones concerning this decision has to be Strahan and company. The Texans are already 2-6 after this announcement.
 
MrMeToo said:
What about the INT to triple coverage? Or the tipped passes. Or the passes to the ground? Or what about not getting the #1 receiver in the AFC involved in the 1st half? Sage>Carr.
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The INT was a bad decision, I give you that. Otherwise he completed 71% of his passes, you have to take that kind of efficiency.
 
MrMeToo said:
What about the INT to triple coverage? Or the tipped passes. Or the passes to the ground? Or what about not getting the #1 receiver in the AFC involved in the 1st half? Sage>Carr.
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Carr did suck today but Sage is not better than him. Remember, Carr is still having a good season he just needs to stop the games were he is horrible.


Btw, Wiegert was horrible today. I heard Vanden Bosh's name (the guy wiegert was suppose to be gaurding) each time Carr or Sage dropped back to pass. Carr was holding onto the ball but heck the line use to be able to block well Wiegert anyway.

Carr was trash today but Hes still the starter.
 
belars44 said:
Coming from one of the biggest Carr apologists on the board, it must mean something since he is such a "pro" on these boards. I said Carr was done 2 weeks ago, he got a grace in the Jacksonville game, his true colors showed today, especially on the sidelines with his pouting shoulder pad holding crybaby attitude. Someone other than Carr must start in order for this organization to start anew. More Carr apologists will be coming out of the woodwork this week saying the same thing. The only addendum is that they will "claim" they really knew that all along.
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Hah, one of the biggest Carr apologists? Ive always said that he needs to be given a fair shake. Meaning.. he needed more time to see what he could do in an offense that WASNT run by morons.

That isnt being a "Carr apologist".. that is making sure you know what you have before you throw it in the trash. If everyone had sucked today, id be blaming it on overall performance. Fact of the matter is that Carr was the only weak link and he lost this game for us single handedly.

So now I cant say "lets see how he does in a working offense" cause ive seen it now.. and he looked great.. but that kind of inconsistency is going to set this team back a long way. We need someone out there that is dependable.. otherwise he is gonna slow down our progress.

So, no..im not a Carr apologist. I support smart decisions. Keeping Carr and seeing what we had was the smart decision. Im less sure about this decision to continue starting Carr, but ill support Kubiak in this, seeing as he knows 1000x more than I do about this kind of thing.
 
This will be bad for Carr. He will be going up against the best D in the league at going after the QB. Carr needs to find a way to get his Oline to protect him better. I'm sad to say this will probably be Carr's last game. Carr will get sack several times and probably fumble a few. Then Sage will come in, Houston fans will cheer. Then Sage will get killed just like Carr. I don't think this will be win situation for either QB, or the team.
 
Okay, let me be the first to call Kubiak into question. His play calling and time management today were absoueltely atrocious. What the hell is Dayne running draws for with 3 minutes to go. Why is Dayne even active. That guy is one yard and a cloud of fat. The drive at the end of the half was terribly called, and executed worse. What was he thinking. Make up your mind Kubes. Either sit on the damn thing, or actually show some confidence and try to score. He was like a guy driving to a fork in the road, and taking it. Kubiak was out to lunch on that drive AGAIN. That's the second time this year. And, now he claims Carr as the starter, when it's clear to all but Carr and his immediate relatives that Carr is absoulute garbage as a starting NFL QB. His QB rating proves that statistic is worthless.
 
The Dream said:
If Carr stinks it up next week, this city will be calling for Kubiak's head.
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Would you quit going around to EVERY thread posting negative crap? Yes, we see there is a problem, and yes its going to be fixed. This team is moving in the right direction, STILL, even after this loss.
 
NEROtheZERO said:
The INT was a bad decision, I give you that. Otherwise he completed 71% of his passes, you have to take that kind of efficiency.
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Carr's YPA was a little over 5/1 interception/1 fumble/0 TDs--"have to accept that."

We have and that is why we've lost over 50 games in 4+ years with Carr...he's still the 'man.'
 
tsip said:
Carr's YPA was a little over 5/1 interception/1 fumble/0 TDs--"have to accept that."

We have and that is why we've lost over 50 games in 4+ years with Carr...he's still the 'man.'
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Great stats, unfortunately in the middle of all that you're tying things in that are not Carr's fault - like wins in a game. A top 10 defense, a top 10 o-line, a top 10 running game... any of these things would make his job a million times easier.
 
Grid said:
I think the only head they will be after is Carr's.

Kubes has shown the willingness to bench Carr, and I dont doubt that Carr will be on a short leash next week. Meaning, if he starts to look anything like he did this week, hes gonna be pulled again (i bet).
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We've all seen how Carr responds when he is the man no matter what. Now we get to see how he reacts when he might be looking for a job.

I sooo hope that he doesn't "play it safe" from here on out. I hope he understands he got benched for losing the ball, and not for throwing downfield giving our guys a chance to make a play.

This offense works so much better when the ball is spread around.
 
texaslifter said:
Great stats, unfortunately in the middle of all that you're tying things in that are not Carr's fault - like wins in a game. A top 10 defense, a top 10 o-line, a top 10 running game... any of these things would make his job a million times easier.
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I'm not bagging on Carr, but I'm hoping one day he'll be the guy that makes it easier for the rest of our team. Instead of the guy that's got it made...
 
belars44 said:
texaslifter said:
Would you quit going around to EVERY thread posting negative crap? Yes, we see there is a problem, and yes its going to be fixed. This team is moving in the right direction, STILL, even after this loss.[/QUOTE]

Gary? Did you grace us with your presence?
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Congratulations on screwing up a simple thing like clicking a quote button - clearly your cleverness is top notch.

Anyways, yes. You see a loss. I see improved LB play, improved CB play, marginally improved S play. D line was making pressure too. They weren't marching down the field on us, like they did against a Washington D. If you can't see that this team is flirting with being a good team.... well whatever, I don't care if you can see it.
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thunderkyss said:
I'm not bagging on Carr, but I'm hoping one day he'll be the guy that makes it easier for the rest of our team. Instead of the guy that's got it made...
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He has been that guy ALL season before this game. David Carr was quietly having a REALLY solid season. If you are holding your breath for another Peyton Manning you have another thing coming.

All this said, I'm not even a staunch Carr supporter - I'm just so sick of seeing the knee jerk reactions and blame game that gets played on this forum instead of positive insight as to how we are progressing. We're supposed to be fans, not the ultimate haters.
 
Anyone who's followed my posts since the Texans' inception knows that I've backed Carr and his position as this team's long term QB. After today I honestly think we'd be a more competitive football team for the remainder of the season with Sage at the helm. Rosenfels showed his ability to make plays, avoid pressure and buy time in the pocket, and attack the middle of the field. Those are three things that Carr has not been able to consistently do during his time in the NFL. Carr's not supposed to have this type of game this often at this point in his career. I think he can be an average quarterback in this league, but we need someone who is going to make things happen and he's not getting it done right now.
 
Porky said:
Okay, let me be the first to call Kubiak into question. His play calling and time management today were absoueltely atrocious. What the hell is Dayne running draws for with 3 minutes to go. Why is Dayne even active. That guy is one yard and a cloud of fat. The drive at the end of the half was terribly called, and executed worse. What was he thinking. Make up your mind Kubes. Either sit on the damn thing, or actually show some confidence and try to score. He was like a guy driving to a fork in the road, and taking it. Kubiak was out to lunch on that drive AGAIN. That's the second time this year. And, now he claims Carr as the starter, when it's clear to all but Carr and his immediate relatives that Carr is absoulute garbage as a starting NFL QB. His QB rating proves that statistic is worthless.
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Dayne is in their for pass protection. You have to give him the ball every now and again so the Defense doesn't know what we are going to do.
 
texaslifter said:
Great stats, unfortunately in the middle of all that you're tying things in that are not Carr's fault - like wins in a game. A top 10 defense, a top 10 o-line, a top 10 running game... any of these things would make his job a million times easier.
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...excuses noted and put in Carr's "It's not fair to me" file...and no monies will be removed from his $50 million dollar "I wil...someday...earn..." money chest.
 
texaslifter said:
He has been that guy ALL season before this game. David Carr was quietly having a REALLY solid season. If you are holding your breath for another Peyton Manning you have another thing coming.

All this said, I'm not even a staunch Carr supporter - I'm just so sick of seeing the knee jerk reactions and blame game that gets played on this forum instead of positive insight as to how we are progressing. We're supposed to be fans, not the ultimate haters.
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First, I'm not knee-jerk. I've been saying the same thing all year. I'm not blaming him for this loss, or any of our other losses, & I see this as part of his progression. I never doubted that he'll start next week.

But he hasn't played any worse this game than he has all season. his 71% completion ratio is still intact, and had he played into the 4th Qtr & got a couple of touchdowns, his rating would be just as high as it's been all year.

I haven't been harping on all his flaws, because I have hope that they will be fixed.

But our recievers, and our defense (yes, our defense) has been carrying this team.
 
"But he hasn't played any worse this game than he has all season. his 71% completion ratio is still intact, and had he played into the 4th Qtr & got a couple of touchdowns, his rating would be just as high as it's been all year."

OK, TK, I think I got it. Like Dallas, we didn't really lose this game because the a) fumble for a TD and the b) punt return for a TD do not count , so--in your mind--we really won 22-14...have I done good?:redtowel:
 
Geez, he completes 15 of 21 with one bad throw. Before the fumble to end the half, it was just a couple of mistakes as a team that cost us. Both fumbles came pretty much when he was at the top of his drop, meaning the tackles both smoked both times, he never had a chance. However, sacks and fumbles tend to snow-ball with Carr and I think the decision to pull him was the right one. But we cant turn our back on him for one bad game when you look at the season he put together previously. Give him a chance to prove himself again next week.
 
New_Texans said:
Carr did suck today but Sage is not better than him. Remember, Carr is still having a good season he just needs to stop the games were he is horrible.


Btw, Wiegert was horrible today. I heard Vanden Bosh's name (the guy wiegert was suppose to be gaurding) each time Carr or Sage dropped back to pass. Carr was holding onto the ball but heck the line use to be able to block well Wiegert anyway.

Carr was trash today but Hes still the starter.
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Everybody wants to say Sage is not better, Please let his on field play determine who is better. Every since preseason Sage has showed a poise in the pocket that David just does not have. David can not sense when pressure is coming from the back side a good QB can. The Titans were playing the same defense on Sage that they played on David, and Sage did not take a sack, same Offensive line. I say give Sage a chance to start a game with the starting offense and let's see what happens. Maybe I'm wrong, but i doubt it.
 
tsip said:
"But he hasn't played any worse this game than he has all season. his 71% completion ratio is still intact, and had he played into the 4th Qtr & got a couple of touchdowns, his rating would be just as high as it's been all year."

OK, TK, I think I got it. Like Dallas, we didn't really lose this game because the a) fumble for a TD and the b) punt return for a TD do not count , so--in your mind--we really won 22-14...have I done good?:redtowel:
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We don't take that stance 'till Wednesday, when we are preparing for our next opponent.


What I am saying, is that no one wanted to talk about Carr's inability to get the ball down the field against Philly, his fumbles against Indy, Washington, at the end of the Miami game all he had to do was take a knee..... he stumbled and tripped on his own two feet...... twice, Dallas was because we didn't have a running game, and against Jax..... he got away with staring down his recievers all day long.

Carr hasn't been throwing the ball in the dirt, that was new today, but that wasn't why he was benched.
 
run-david-run said:
Geez, he completes 15 of 21 with one bad throw. Before the fumble to end the half, it was just a couple of mistakes as a team that cost us. Both fumbles came pretty much when he was at the top of his drop, meaning the tackles both smoked both times, he never had a chance. However, sacks and fumbles tend to snow-ball with Carr and I think the decision to pull him was the right one. But we cant turn our back on him for one bad game when you look at the season he put together previously. Give him a chance to prove himself again next week.
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I agree for the most part, but please..... we don't need Carr to prove himself... we know what he's got.

We need to let Kubiak continue to bring him along.
 
belars44 said:
Anyways, yes. You see a loss. I see improved LB play, improved CB play, marginally improved S play. D line was making pressure too. They weren't marching down the field on us, like they did against a Washington D. If you can't see that this team is flirting with being a good team.... well whatever, I don't care if you can see it.
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Look I see it. If we didn't have those ******* turnovers, we would have one. If that guy (forgot his name) didn't return that fumble for a TD at the end of the 2nd, we would have won. A serious bad play by guy, he should have just fell, our ran with it. Then, we could have ran down the clock for halftime. The Titans can celebrate this victory, but we were the better team overall. Again, turnovers just killed us.
 
Simply amazing! How about sticking with how you really feel instead of bouncing back and forth every week depending on the outcome of the game. Show some stability. This is getting really tiring. It actually makes me sick.
 
Say we bench Carr for the season, what will we do with him in the offseason? Carr cost us some money. I don't think anyone would trade for him. Maybe the 49ers.
 
Carr surely had a bad game today and I really understand the benching Kubiak went with. We needed a lift from someone on the offense side. Kubiak know's Carr real well and knew that his turnovers are going to snowball him for the resr of the game. Carr has to understand that he has to protect the ball better no matter what.
 
belars44 said:
Coming from one of the biggest Carr apologists on the board, it must mean something since he is such a "pro" on these boards. I said Carr was done 2 weeks ago, he got a grace in the Jacksonville game, his true colors showed today, especially on the sidelines with his pouting shoulder pad holding crybaby attitude. Someone other than Carr must start in order for this organization to start anew. More Carr apologists will be coming out of the woodwork this week saying the same thing. The only addendum is that they will "claim" they really knew that all along.
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Geez. Carr was pulled today with good reason. He sat on the sidelines. There was no pouting.
 
Texanfan4ever said:
Simply amazing! How about sticking with how you really feel instead of bouncing back and forth every week depending on the outcome of the game. Show some stability. This is getting really tiring. It actually makes me sick.
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Showing stability in Carr has led the Texans to a 20-51 career record.
 
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